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I know its been hashed a thousand times, and this thread can be deleted if its too redundant. I regret thoroughly getting the 2.1 leak on my wife's phone. I love my rooted eris and ELB rom has made it absolutely functional and keeps getting better with constant updates and feedback, while my wife's eris is stagnant and hopeless. Constant dropped calls, and sound outages, and I cannot get a replacement because Verizon's system doesn't show it on 2.1 so until it is (which cant be done because we cant get the OTA when you have the leak) they wont even consider sending a refurb. To make matters worse, even if I could get a refurb, they are coming shipped with 2.1 that cant be rooted. At least if I got a refurb and the problems continued we would be able to complain enough to get a discounted upgrade maybe. I don't think anyone is working on this issue anymore as the phone has been left behind in the dust without root, and I don't blame them. I would too if I was a dev. I will NEVER NEVER install another leaked ROM. I will always be patient enough to wait for root. Yeah Frisco you were right, and all the others that waited patiently. Sigh OK done venting. Now to go "accidentally" drive over my wife's phone and pay the damn insurance.
I too regret installing the leak, however I have had none of the problems you have described. My phone may be a bit sluggish at times, but I've never had a dropped call since I've gotten the phone, or any other problems for that matter. Sorry to hear your having ask these problems though.
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I didn't have any problems whatsoever with getting a refurb while I was on leak. I called them up and mentioned having a couple of the common problems(I actually did have issues), told the guy that I had done the factory reset and it hadn't helped and the new phone was on the way. Sorry to hear that's not how it happened to work for you. Did they specifically say they could tell she wasn't on the OTA? I'm surprised they were able to tell with the similarities between the two versions. Maybe you can try and install the OTA manually on hers and A) see if it helps in general, or B) see if Verizon can tell she has the regular version then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695593
As far as I know, you cannot upgrade to the ota if you are running one of the leaked roms because of the hboot version.
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As far as I know, you cannot upgrade to the ota if you are running one of the leaked roms because of the hboot version.
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Acutally you can go OTA from one of the leaks, just not root from a leak. Now going OTA does not change the hboot version of the leaks, so even with the OTA you cannot leak. But if for some reason you want the OTA instead of a leak ( and with V3 leak they are the same anyway) follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695593 make sure to read it all, but from what I have read and understand that is the offical OTA release that can be manually installed on the phone, so if it ever needs to go back to verizon they cannot hit you for having unoffical software on the phone
Ah, this I did not know, but very useful. Thanks for posting the link.
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If you want root that bad, you can do like I did. I had Leakv1 on my phone and just went ahead and loaded the new RUU OTA update onto it. Found someone on Craigslist that was willing to sell an eris that had the OTA on it for like $150 and ship it to me. Rooted it, then put my old phone on ebay for auction. It sold for like $170 with free shipping. Everyone came out happy and I got a rooted phone and like $10 in my pocket.
Be careful when buying phones on craigslist/ebay/etc. and look out for those Bad ESNs.
Anyway, just another option for ya...
So I had originally put the leaked non-rooted GB update on my X2 with no issues. I had been running that for a few days when I decided to replace it with the p3 pre-rooted version. I did an SBF back to Froyo without issue, did the Gingerbreak, etc. The pre-rooted version went on fine with no errors, but then when it came up, the digitizer was unresponsive.
I did several factory resets, SBF back to Froyo again (several times), but the digitizer is still unresponsive....I now can't get past the setup screen. I also noticed that the emergency dial button has a blue highlight around it, and when I press the power button, the "Power Off" item in the menu has a blue highlight around it....almost like if I had a trackball or arrow keys, I could move the highlight....I wonder if it knows the digitizer is not functioning?
Has anyone else seen this? I see one thread on the Motorola site where two people have the same issue after updating the GB (presumable the OTA version since they are posting on that site), but no helpful responses.
My phone is only 3 weks old, so I am tempted to just SBF and try to get a replacement out of Verizon, but thought I would check here first in case I can fix it....or figure out what went wrong so it doesn't happen again.
i'm 1 of the people thats having the SAME EXACT problem as your having............ive sbf'ed like 100 times (no joke) and factory reset about as much............i'm just goin to take it back and hope i can get a replacement..............
I called Verizon and I was on my exact "30 day" since I bought it, so they are shipping me out a new one overnight. I have insurance, so I could have gone through them I suppose if it was after 30 days, but at least I'm getting a brand new one. Now I just have to decide if I'm willing to try it again.
So if more than one person has this issue, I'm guessing it is NOT a hardware problem. However, it is odd to me that doing the SBF doesn't fix it. I wonder what could be happening, maybe someone with more knowledge about this will be able to shed some light.
Unless we figure out what happened and how to potentially fix it, this seems pretty close to a bricked phone. I wonder it is something in the GB update in general, or something going wrong in the manual update!?!?!
Don't these phones have some type of manufactures warranty?
Edit: The phones carry a one year warranty wether or not you purchase insurance. If the hardware fails, as it has in your cases, they will replace it for free.
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I did get it replaced, I am more interested in why a handful of us had this happen upon GB updating. Seems odd.
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I did get it replaced, I am more interested in why a handful of us had this happen upon GB updating. Seems odd.
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Not All Android Phones Are Built The Same.
I noticed you didn't say you factory reset after you sbf to 2.2.2 in your original post. I don't claim to know for sure but some people are not following this direction, and it MAY be one of the problems. It is recommended that all directions are followed exactly for a successful update. The only way to tell if there is a problem with the method is if everyone follows it to the letter.
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Thanks, yes I did factory reset after the SBF. Oh well, this doesn't seem to be widespread and I got a brand new X2 out of it.
Hey guys, it's deedscreen. The creator of the MoPho XDA Fan Group, facebook, Twitter, and Google+ page, and you may also know me as the one with the problems with the Photon who constantly nags, and rants with issues.
I just want to know if anyone has these issues too.
I have to deal with the phone being slow, constantly freezing, and the sleep of death, even after the latest update.
For the longest, I couldn't update the Photon, I found a thread on how to fix it by 'SBFing. So, I SBF'd it, it worked fine, updated to the latest software.
It was working fine, now I am back to the same issues, plus I cannot install any applications, nor update any applications. It will just say "INSTALLING" for literally hours, and never installs.
I have had the worst luck with this phone, I am going to 'SBF it back to stock, because a factory reset will not get rid of the battery icon modification.
I'm gonna return it to Sprint for a new one. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS PHONE!!! Why is it only me with this bad luck? It feels like no one else has these issues on the forums, I am always the one posting with these problems, myself alone! This phone is bad luck for me. I love it, when it works.
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If you have a problem with this thread, keep your trap shut. I will have this thread closed if anyone insults me again, like the last time I had major issues. I am just experiencing bad luck. I need to know if anyone has similar issues. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Are you having similar issues?
Have u tried a completely stick photon...not modded and none of ur market Apps installed? ?
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I'm gonna return it to Sprint for a new one. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS PHONE!!! Why is it only me with this bad luck? It feels like no one else has these issues on the forums, I am always the one posting with these problems, myself alone! This phone is bad luck for me. I love it, when it works.
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Dude, you are definitely NOT alone. I love this phone too when it is working properly. These are my two main issue:
Random Reboots
Keyboard locks up - When this happens, the phone will not dial out. (Reboot required)
* This is my 2nd MoPho and I had the same issues with my first one. *
Factory defects with hardware do happen. Replace if you can.
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The reason why I am not quoting you guys, is because misleads users to think that I already have enough replies, so here we go.
@lucidvtec - I have tried stock options, that doesn't work always, not having any applications from the market installed is like asking me to jump off a bridge.
@sjamie - I do get random reboots ocassionally, but my keyboard, (no matter which one I use), constantly locks up. I get the "Sleep of Death" all of the time, and Constant Freezing. Please vote at the page here, on the forums to poll your results for issues with the Motorola Photon 4G MB855.
@Rapidlayout - You are correct.
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@lucidvtec, @sjamie, @ Rapidlayout: I am on my fifth Photon.
Mine was the same. Bricked it a few weeks ago and got this new one. Its perfect. There must be a bad batch of them, get it replaced bc no software is gonna fix it.
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I just completed a MSL reset, a full wipe, and flashed the latest 198_7 sbf. Let's see if this resolves my rebooting and keyboard problems. If not, I'll try out one of joker's roms. If that still doesn't work, I'll go in for Photon #3.
@deedscreen: I'm sorry to hear you are on your 5th Photon. That is not encouraging to me.
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Mine was the same. Bricked it a few weeks ago and got this new one. Its perfect. There must be a bad batch of them, get it replaced bc no software is gonna fix it.
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All of the same issues as myself? Now when you replaced it, did you have a problem upgrading to the latest software with the replacement?
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I just completed a MSL reset, a full wipe, and flashed the latest 198_7 sbf. Let's see if this resolves my rebooting and keyboard problems. If not, I'll try out one of joker's roms. If that still doesn't work, I'll go in for Photon #3.
@deedscreen: I'm sorry to hear you are on your 5th Photon. That is not encouraging to me.
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Just to let you know ahead of time, the Full Wipe, MSL Reset, and latest 198_7 sbf, will appear to work, it will work perfectly fine for about a month and a half, like mine, and you will have the same issues all over again.
Just to let you know.
I'm about to go to the Sprint Customer Advantage Repair Center Store, for my 6th Motorola Photon 4G device. Motorola has supposedly fixed the problem. WE SHALL SEE.
I just have to do an SBF before I go to the Store. I did a battery modification and I want it reset to stock values.
Sorry to hear. It sucks to hear of others having such problems with the Photon. Myself and others have been lucky to just have the "normal" issues all smartphones have in common.
If I was in your shoes, each time I got a new phone it would be run stock for at least a week or two with no apps whatsoever installed (I know, I know...what is the point right?) just to see if the issues exist straight out of the box.
I hate to say it but I would have probably swapped the phone a few times and then moved to something else. At some point it just isn't worth it anymore.
Wonder if it is some type of voltage issue. Have you talked to Motorola about it and if so, what has been said?
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Just to let you know ahead of time, the Full Wipe, MSL Reset, and latest 198_7 sbf, will appear to work, it will work perfectly fine for about a month and a half, like mine, and you will have the same issues all over again.
Just to let you know.
I'm about to go to the Sprint Customer Advantage Repair Center Store, for my 6th Motorola Photon 4G device. Motorola has supposedly fixed the problem. WE SHALL SEE.
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Okay... that's really not encouraging!
However, I've never gone a full month with no problems so at least that would be progress for me!
Please let us know what happens with your 6th phone. Fortunately, I've never had a problem flashing SBFs. It will be interesting to see if you have that problem with your 6th phone.
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Sorry to hear. It sucks to hear of others having such problems with the Photon. Myself and others have been lucky to just have the "normal" issues all smartphones have in common.
If I was in your shoes, each time I got a new phone it would be run stock for at least a week or two with no apps whatsoever installed (I know, I know...what is the point right?) just to see if the issues exist straight out of the box.
I hate to say it but I would have probably swapped the phone a few times and then moved to something else. At some point it just isn't worth it anymore.
Wonder if it is some type of voltage issue. Have you talked to Motorola about it and if so, what has been said?
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I am devoted to the Photon, I love it's features, style, (MAINLY, I've puchased a bunch of accessories, and Sprint said that I can only get the HTC EVO Design 4G, or the Optimus, they are supposed to allow me to get a phone that is of equivalent specifications which is the Epic Touch SII Galaxy, which Sprint refused to give me.
Motorola says "We have never heard of anything like this, what are you talking about? This cannot be true!"
Those reps are quite frankly put, "stupid" in regards to the Photon and its technical difficulties. (Sorry if I offended any reps on the site.)
Sprint is trying to do the old "bait and switch on me"
I am willing to pay up to $100 price in differance, but I have put too much effort in the Photon and the Photon Forums here at XDA. After all, I am the creator of the Photon Fan Club Group here at XDA, (if you are not a member, look at my signature and join below.), I have created the Twitter, Google+ and facebook pages for this phone.
You know what I'm saying?
(By the way, I just SBF'd my phone without taking my microSD card out, and the SIM card, and I wanted to move all of my data before I sbf'd it. darn it. hope my sd card didn't get erased, I will be mad with myself if I did.)
well I just bought my photon 20 days ago from a guy on craigslist and yes it was brand new, never activated everything sealed for 250.
And so far the only thing I wasn't able to do was the update which a lot of people couldn't get their phones to update but I used the 198_7 SBF and that was it.
So far I only had 2 reboots (and that was when I was messing around with root explorer replacing some apks in the system folder)
But besides that I haven't had any problems that aren't normal on any android phone.
I read a few posts in other forums about bad batteries causing some of the problems we are facing. Therefore, I called Motorola and they are sending me a new battery for FREE! I pray this fixes everything. (fingers crossed)
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I read a few posts in other forums about bad batteries causing some of the problems we are facing. Therefore, I called Motorola and they are sending me a new battery for FREE! I pray this fixes everything. (fingers crossed)
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Read the same thing. Motorola sent me a brand new battery, for free, but that did not fix the problem for me.
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All of the same issues as myself? Now when you replaced it, did you have a problem upgrading to the latest software with the replacement?
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New one came with 198_6 so I had no reason to update
Edit: yes mine was plagued with all the same issues
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Read the same thing. Motorola sent me a brand new battery, for free, but that did not fix the problem for me.
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Damn, man! You are shattering all of my dreams today! jk
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Damn, man! You are shattering all of my dreams today! jk
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I understand that I am literally shattering your dreams, (no need for saying joking).
It is actually true.
I am sorry about that.
EDIT: On the bright side you will have an extra battery! See now I made one dream come true at no charge to you. (LOL! Hey, that rhymed.) Hehe
Well, since 198_7 isn't official, isn't flashing that SBF actually taking you away from a stock experience?
Never had one random reboot. Maybe some apps or a not 100% working root you guy's applied to the phone? Mine is flawless.
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So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
CM7 is very stable. As for it being "beta" cyanogen won't support it so until DZK figures a way to get around the bootloader it will keep the "beta" label.
Regarding the problems your having with your phone it sounds like it could be just that, problems with the phone, not the ROM. Eclipse and CM7 are the two most stable ROM's we have available and should not be the source of the kind of problems you describe.
And lastly remember CM7 runs on 2.3.4, it will give you fits if you try flashing it on 2.3.5.
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CM7 is quicker and more stable than any of the blur-based roms ever were on my phone, and all of them had a really irritating issue with bluetooth volume that CM7 fixed. I've been running on the same flash of beta 1 since January.
thanks for the replies guys, guess ill just flash cm7, and if I still have the same problems I can go talk to a verizon rep and see if I can get a replacement or somthing =/
this is actually making me laugh the stupid **** it's doing right now, I press play on a song, and the screen starts distorting, i exit and 90 seconds later the song starts playing, but then it pauses and the phone gets hot all of a sudden
how do you manage to **** up a phone this badly I just don't understand(I have owned this since 2011 may, it can't be a phone problem it just started happening 2-3 months ago)
Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Oh please. The droid x2 is one of the WORST developed android phones out right now. Not only that, the issues I have had with it came LONG before I actually "threw" it. Obviously I didn't baseball throw it into a concrete wall, but it wasn't even close enough to do damage. Verizon should send me a replacement because motorola has created a pretty pathetic excuse for a phone, or because I received a defective phone. Like I said, these issues have been going for FOREVER, and this phone in general has had issues since its release.
The phone isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. You would think that we got a brick in A box. But cm7 is very stable and works well for DD.
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I agree that the Droid X2 isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Any problems you have is either a defective phone or you flashed something the wrong way. Almost everyone who have these ROMs on their phones have no problems. So instead of blaming the phone and calling it crap, let us help you fix it.
First of all, as was mentioned already, CM7 and Eclipse are two of the most stable ROMs for this phone. Liberty was just a quick port and has not had any updates since its release. Honestly, I dont know why people still use it. The problem with Eclipse is that it is on a different kernel than every other ROM we have. So if you went from liberty to eclipse without changing the kernel to 2.3.5 first, you will experience problems. Did you install Eclipse by using the 2.3.5 SBF file first?
Or if you want the best of both world's I have eclipse 1.3. It runs on 2.3.4 kernel. These phones do get hot. What do you mean by overheat? Does it shut down or just feel hot?
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Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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RoyJ said:
Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
If you are going to take your phone into Verizon, follow these instructions to get your phone back to stock. This will remove root and make it like you just bought your phone. Who knows, maybe it will fix the problems you have as well. Try it out and if your issues continue, take it in.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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**** run aokp on this phone and tell me if u dont like it
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morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senseless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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To this day I still don't know. Maybe user error, but I think it is tempermental. I literally had to wipe the hell out of it before I could flash the first rom. At one point I wiped everything so many times, I really thought it was over. But all of a sudden it decided to work and hasn't missed a beat since. Now, I don't wipe anything on it anymore. It runs like a sewing machine.
CM7 is still rockin' on 2 of the X2's that I loaded and themed out.
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So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
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As far as overheating is concerned you may want to look at adobe flash. Using the latest version caused issues for me and I gave had to revert back to a previous version. As others have mentioned going with CM7 or eclipse will make a huge difference. I have had 3 other smartphones with vzw and this was the best one so far.
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RoyJ said:
Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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ah ok, yeah I know how to SBF, so I will most likely do that and go to the verizon store to see what's up
if they offer me a replacement phone, I guess ill just ask them to give me a few days to make a decision so I can do research and find out if I am getting ripped off or not
thanks for all the replies guys, I know I come off as kind of an ass(ill be honest im pretty douchey) but this phone has transformed me into something T_T
cm7 is a good rom. Fast too! Since it is still based on the 2.3.4 kernel it has the orientation sensor bug too though.
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It's probability way to late now but has anyone claimed insurance on one since this last update? This wouldn't be so bad if they still had old stock still around. I would assume not many was made after this update. This might just need to get ran over again!
Yes, now I am stuck with one on 2.3.5. I'm tempted to break this one and try again for a replacement on 2.3.4.
does anyone even know if they are still giving these out as replacements. I would love to somehow get a galaxy nexus lol.
Just try and brick the phone free replacement done it twice aleady, just before the 2.3.5 update now im stuck and havnt had time to brick and wait for a new phone to come 2~3 days last time it happened
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