I bought a sim-locked xperia x10 with android 2.3.x installed, but couldnt use it due to the fact it was locked. So i decided to give it to a "cellphone-shop" to let them unlock it for me. They did but now the android version is 2.1. 1-update or something like this.
So my question is: Can i update the phone via pc companion and it stays unlocked or will it be locked again after i updated it to 2.3.x again??
Thanks in advance
Raex said:
I bought a sim-locked xperia x10 with android 2.3.x installed, but couldnt use it due to the fact it was locked. So i decided to give it to a "cellphone-shop" to let them unlock it for me. They did but now the android version is 2.1. 1-update or something like this.
So my question is: Can i update the phone via pc companion and it stays unlocked or will it be locked again after i updated it to 2.3.x again??
Thanks in advance
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as i know, you cannot undo the sim unlock once is done, ask the guys who unlocked your phone about the method they used, if they unlocked your bootloader too or only sim, in both ways, you can upgrade via pc companion os seus and nothing will happen, thats because sony uses an international rom for the updates
As i said, try asking the guys who did the job, they have to upgrade your phone as a plus.
the guy there told me not too update it, the reason why i asked is that this guy didnt really seem to know what he was talking about, still he told me that it would be locked again after an update, so i need to be sure before i really update, he compared it with an iphone that is also locked again after an update...........also the guy who originally sold me the phone told me that he unlocked it and before he actually sold me the phone, updated the software, when i got the phone i couldn use it with my sim-card...it was locked again, but he told me that he could use the phone with two different sim-cards from two different providers even after the update, but the phone simply didnt take my sim-card (3rd other provider).....i just dont know^^
please..........i need to be sure, i dont want to pay 35€ again....and tell that guy i was just too stupid..
OK, i finally did the update and it remained unlocked......NIIIICE
The Android version on my X10 is 2.1.update-1 and I can't update because the sim-unlock I did would relock and i couldn't use the phone anymore. So my question is:
How can I use more RAM, because the X10 should have about 384mb RAM and according to different task managers there are only 280mb available and just about 100mb free (so about 180 are used)?
Raex said:
The Android version on my X10 is 2.1.update-1 and I can't update because the sim-unlock I did would relock and i couldn't use the phone anymore.
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You can safely update to the version 2.3.3, a telephone will normally work. You can even do bootloader unlock. Only a reverse operation (relocking bootloader) will demand sim-unlock.
Well, the guy in the phone shop told me it would relock after an update, also the support service of sony ericcson told me not to update because the simlock would appear again and i should take the phone to the shop again and let them do the update, but they said that they cant do the update for me either, so i doubt that its that save for me to update to 2.3.3
Raex said:
Well, the guy in the phone shop told me it would relock after an update, also the support service of sony ericcson told me not to update because the simlock would appear again and i should take the phone to the shop again and let them do the update, but they said that they cant do the update for me either, so i doubt that its that save for me to update to 2.3.3
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If you trust "guy in the phone shop" then is a sense to ask a question here??
Well good point, but if not him, then the service and support center of sony ericcson, they told me exactly the same thing, and i think they should know best how their own devices behave or react after an update (and these things).
So is there another way to use more ram, except of updating?
The thing with most support centers is they chat alot of useless info as they can't be bothered half the time, i had a sim unlocked x10i i did the update to 2.3.3 and was not asked to unlock the sim again, if the shop did a code unlock they should have given you the code if not i'd suggest you find your receipt and get the code again, i don't know what kind of phone shop you use but a software update shouldn't induce a sim unlock needed again to use the handset i've updated many phones and never had the problem
OK, but i dont think they did it with a code, as i remember they told me they had to do it with some kind of software, because it wouldnt work with a newer android version than 2.1, thats also the reason why i shouldnt update the phone...
Hey everybody,
I just got the x10 today and I've never hacked a Sony so I know nothing about it right now, so forgive my ignorance.
The phone was used and didn't come with a sim card. I've put 2 different sim cards in it that I know are good, but when I boot up it gives me a sim card error and only let's me make an emergency call.
I'm thinking that because his data is on it, it needs his sim card? I have always had cdma phones so sim cards are new to me also.
My question is... Is their a way to get into some kind of boot menu by a button combination at startup or something, where I can delete the phone data?
Any help is appreciated.
Edit... Phone is stock, not rooted, yet
Dude,it seems ur phone is sim locked and u can't use any sim card beside sim card ov network operator that locked ur phone.
Sent from my "z10i"
neoxx3m said:
Dude,it seems ur phone is sim locked and u can't use any sim card beside sim card ov network operator that locked ur phone.
Sent from my "z10i"
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How would that happen? The phone is legit, no outstanding bill on that account and its not stolen. Are you saying I need his sim card to unlock it so I can use another?
Just to give you more info, when the lockscreen comes up, it says "sim card is faulty" but if I hold power and select airplane mode, then turn off airplane mode, it let's me past the lockscreen and then I get a toast box that says "sim is not provisioned mm2"
The phone was on at&t when it was used. I don't have an at&t acct. For now I just want to learn about it and root/mod it. Maybe ill call at&t.
Might be another issue :
Some anti-theft antivirus programs are able to lock your phone for your sim-card only (to prevent using another sims when phone is stolen).
If its set as device-manager, it also cant be disabled (requires some password).
So, try to boot up your phone without SIM card ant check this first. If device-manager is not set, then your phone is surely simlocked.
Thanks for the reply, I've tried booting up without a sim card and it gives me an error that no sim is installed and will only let me make an emergency call.
I called at&t last night and the rep asked me to hold the menu + return buttons while pressing power and I should get an option to hard reset the phone. That didn't work so she patched me to Sony. They had me download Sony pc companion and sent me instructions to "repair" it.
He said it was 1 of 2 problems. It's a "software glitch" or a broken sim port.
If the repair won't fix it, ill have to send it in and for $185 they'll fix it (yeah right). When I get home ill try the pc companion. This phone is in mint condition and was fully working before the guy that gave it to me went to an iPhone.
wikdNoob said:
Thanks for the reply, I've tried booting up without a sim card and it gives me an error that no sim is installed and will only let me make an emergency call.
I called at&t last night and the rep asked me to hold the menu + return buttons while pressing power and I should get an option to hard reset the phone. That didn't work so she patched me to Sony. They had me download Sony pc companion and sent me instructions to "repair" it.
He said it was 1 of 2 problems. It's a "software glitch" or a broken sim port.
If the repair won't fix it, ill have to send it in and for $185 they'll fix it (yeah right). When I get home ill try the pc companion. This phone is in mint condition and was fully working before the guy that gave it to me went to an iPhone.
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Might be both - hardware malfunction or simple simlock. Personally expect simlock. My phone is not simlocked and when turned on it can run without sim card simply as PDA.
Try to flash your phone with generic WWE ROM and try again. Or before, check if phone doesnt have usb debugging on.
Afraid that no, but try to look with flashtool or adb (if yes, we can make full wipe within xrecovery)
HeliumX10 said:
Might be both - hardware malfunction or simple simlock. Personally expect simlock. My phone is not simlocked and when turned on it can run without sim card simply as PDA.
Try to flash your phone with generic WWE ROM and try again. Or before, check if phone doesnt have usb debugging on.
Afraid that no, but try to look with flashtool or adb (if yes, we can make full wipe within xrecovery)
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If its sim locked then I'd think that I could use the previous owners sim to get into the system, right? Then how do I sim unlock?
I can't check for USB debugging because I can't get past the emergency call only screen.
I've got the pc companion downloaded on my working phone, when I get home I a couple of hours I'm gonna xfer it to the comp and run it, hopefully that'll fix it. If not, ill wait till Monday and get the previous owners sim and try that. If that doesn't work.... I'm gonna get the night vision goggles back that I traded for this phone, lol.
Running this phone without a sim is exactly what I want, just as a pda. How'd you do it, or better yet, what it called, sim unlocking? I can look for a guide, but I don't even know what its called. I feel really dumb about this phone, sorry bout that, if you came to the evo3d forum I could give you all the help you needed.
wikdNoob said:
Running this phone without a sim is exactly what I want, just as a pda. How'd you do it, or better yet, what it called, sim unlocking? I can look for a guide, but I don't even know what its called.
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OK then If you want to use your phone as pda, without gsm or data connection, then the simpliest thing you can do is to flash stock generic ROM (you dont have to care about baseband and so on).
However you need to do a sim-unlock first because otherwise it will be still locked on the operator. Heart about many unlocking methods on websites, eg. this one (really expensive):
http://www.mobile-unlocker.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10/rs2wp9/
Never tried (always buying phone without sim-lock).
What operator is your phone locked?
YOu probably have to google about your exact operator locked version, hopefully you will find unlocking code or online service for it.
BAM! I got it, thanks for all your help. I used the pc companion and chose repair, I lost all data but that's ok, I was gonna erase data anyway. When I boot up it still gives me a notif that the sim is not provisioned but I can still get into the system.
Time to start hacking away at this thing, I've got a lot to learn I'm sure. I downloaded flashtool and it says it'll root so I'm gonna try that. I'm open to any more help you can give out, you probably think that some of the easy stuff is common knowledge but even the smallest stuff will help me get started. I'm gonna start reading in the sticky section, thanks again for the replies.
Also, after the repair, I have a different lockscreen, it looks like an iPhone lock kinda. Before, I had the lock that went up and right on a curve kinda, how do I get back to that one?
wikdNoob said:
Also, after the repair, I have a different lockscreen, it looks like an iPhone lock kinda. Before, I had the lock that went up and right on a curve kinda, how do I get back to that one?
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Now i understand why you wasnt able to get into system without sim You were on old android 1.6 which was default OS when X10i was released. But there were two big software updates - 2.1 and last year our beloved 2.3.3.
Thats why you have different lockscreen. In 1.6 it was shaped like half-circle, in 2.3 its just a simple horizontal slide... But there is not any solution how to get this lockcreen back as I know. BTW.: Also liked the old one lockcreen
Everytime you will need a help, post and we will surely help you !!
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Thats why you have different lockscreen. In 1.6 it was shaped like half-circle, in 2.3 its just a simple horizontal slide... But there is not any solution how to get this lockcreen back as I know. BTW.: Also liked the old one lockcreen
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Ok, I'm starting to get it now... My system info says
Firmware version 2.1-update1
Baseband 2.1.65
Kernel 2.6.29
So far I've rooted, installed xrecovery and unlocked the bl. All the roms I've looked at say I need a higher baseband to use that rom. Can I use the pc companion to update to 2.3.3, and is it gonna cause an issue since I have a custom recovery and unlocked bl? The reason I ask is because on an LG I had, it would brick if you did an official update with a custom recovery.
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My system info says
Firmware version 2.1-update1
Baseband 2.1.65
Kernel 2.6.29
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Ohh, branded phones are really loosers It seems that your version wasnt updated to 2.3.3, on which are based all roms for X10i and X10a.
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So far I've rooted, installed xrecovery and unlocked the bl. All the roms I've looked at say I need a higher baseband to use that rom. Can I use the pc companion to update to 2.3.3, and is it gonna cause an issue since I have a custom recovery and unlocked bl? The reason I ask is because on an LG I had, it would brick if you did an official update with a custom recovery.
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I recommend you to use Flashtool intead There are problems to get the ftf file with generic ROM, which also includes .71 baseband which is surely needed for any custom ROM. But I think this is simplier solution. If you want active link to FTF bundle I will post it (also with guide, already wrote it for another users).
You can also use PC Companion, and it surely dont affect your phone in any way. If you rooted it and installed xrecovery its surely not problem (I performed this once on my device). Dont know about unlocked bootloader (dont have it and dont want to have it ), but think thats also not problem.
You can brick X10i only if you flash kernel and something unexpected happens (cable unplug etc...).
Wow, 200th post - will celebrate my anniversary
HeliumX10 said:
Ohh, branded phones are really loosers It seems that your version wasnt updated to 2.3.3, on which are based all roms for X10i and X10a.
I recommend you to use Flashtool intead There are problems to get the ftf file with generic ROM, which also includes .71 baseband which is surely needed for any custom ROM. But I think this is simplier solution. If you want active link to FTF bundle I will post it (also with guide, already wrote it for another users).
You can also use PC Companion, and it surely dont affect your phone in any way. If you rooted it and installed xrecovery its surely not problem (I performed this once on my device). Dont know about unlocked bootloader (dont have it and dont want to have it ), but think thats also not problem.
You can brick X10i only if you flash kernel and something unexpected happens (cable unplug etc...).
Wow, 200th post - will celebrate my anniversary
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Got it, I installed DiXpreia 7 'avenger' using xrec for Rom and flashtool for the ftf file. wow, what a difference in graphics, this is cool.
I appreciate all the time you've spent on me. Congrats on the 200th, I'm helping you stack up some thanks' too
One last thing, what's the benifit of an unlocked bl? And would it benifit me to unbrand since I have a custom Rom?
wikdNoob said:
I appreciate all the time you've spent on me. Congrats on the 200th, I'm helping you stack up some thanks' too
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Haha, thanks bro !
wikdNoob said:
One last thing, what's the benifit of an unlocked bl? And would it benifit me to unbrand since I have a custom Rom?
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For unlocked bootloader there is only one main benefit. You can flash any custom kernel directly. On locked bootloader you can also use custom kernel, but it uses "bypass" method - once stock kernel is loaded, special init script gives the control to custom kernel and then custom kernel is loaded. This is 100% safe for noobs and also devs (I was doing some kernelt tweaks, thats why I am on locked - if I do unloadable kernel and flash it on unlocked device... It will be bricked ). But it takes about 2x time to load the system on reboot, because you need to load two kernels instead just one. If you unlock your bootloader, you can overwrite stock kernel with custom one. And when device it powered on, custom kernel is loaded directly and loads faster then by "bypass" method. Another "benefit" is that all of CyanogenMod ROMs requires unlocked bootloader
Unlocked bootloader doesnt affect your "brand", it wont remove it. As wrote before, you need some service which offers unlocking codes or I saw saome tutorials on youtube (give a search ).
But think this is a little nonsense if you want to use your phone as PDA. "Branding" affects only gsm network and 3G data, so you cant use these features without SIM.
Thanks for the info on the locked/unlocked bl.
Now for another question. Let's say I install a Rom and kernel combo that aren't compatible, you said it'll brick. Will that be a hard/permanent brick or could I just use the pc companion and repair it.
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Thanks for the info on the locked/unlocked bl.
Now for another question. Let's say I install a Rom and kernel combo that aren't compatible, you said it'll brick. Will that be a hard/permanent brick or could I just use the pc companion and repair it.
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On locked bl you can everytime use Flashtool or PC Companion to reapir your phone.
On unlocked mostly too. BUT, as told you. Only if you flash loader or kernel badly (bad cable, unexpected power shutdown etc.) you cant repair your phone with any software. Or, to be perfectionist You can unbrick it, using the "JTAG" connector with some "JIG" box. These hardware are hard to buy, its highly specialized devices and costs about 200€ or even more... With these tools you can unbrick any device everytime, even with damaged system ROM, or unloadable kernel. It will simply overwrite the whole NAND adress by adress, byte by byte with standart system image.
You can also use some high-level services which are equipped with this hw and could do it for you. But its also expensive.BTW. thats why I am thinking about to buy JIG box perosnally
Hi Guys,
My xperia mini pro was acting kinda wierd lately with the phone getting stuck while using the slider keyboard. This went on for a day and then the speaker on the phone stopped working and i was forced to use the headset for all calls. Then the very next day, the display went off completely. I have not rooted the phone and its on stock OS. Bootloader is locked too.
I used the search option and found this link which almost completely explains my issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918271
Did as told there, SUS did find my phone and i could reinstall the OS, but it still didnt bring back the display.
So i m off to service center to get the flex cable changed.. :good: wonder y they make this thing so, if the cable damage is almost certain.
My q. is can i unlock my bootloader once the phone arrives from service? I am on 11W49. Had seen a similar thread saying anything after 11w29+ will brick the phone, but it was for Xperia X8. I am using the Xperia mini pro, will it brick the phone? i wanted to load MiUi on it
Unlock it using the official method by sony and it won't brick
If you want to know how to do this, read my guide on how to unlock the bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.3
Thanks mihahn,
Will do it once i get it back from service.
The issue of hard bricking would be applicable to X8 alone i suppose.
U can also try unlock it using test poin method. My XMP is 12W07 and everything went fine. But U must be sure, that in service menu under rooting status is Bootloader unlock allowed: yes Otherwise U won't be able to unlock bootloader for free
I bought this tablet 2 months ago in our local t-mobile. And everything was fine until 2 weeks ago when it suddenly started loosing gsm signal.
At first i thought it had something to do with me rooting it. So i tried repairing it 2 times but with no luck. After that i tried downgrading to 4.1.2 and that didn't work either.
So basically i can be online (surfing,downloading etc.) for few minutes before it drops gsm signal (no signal icon in statusbar) and after few minutes it comes back and then it drops again...
I'd like to know if it can be fixed without taking it to nearest sony repair service. Did anyone encounter similar problem and manage to fix it?
btw bootloader is locked (unlock allowed: no) so flashin another kernel/ROM is out of the question...
wh15tler said:
I bought this tablet 2 months ago in our local t-mobile. And everything was fine until 2 weeks ago when it suddenly started loosing gsm signal.
At first i thought it had something to do with me rooting it. So i tried repairing it 2 times but with no luck. After that i tried downgrading to 4.1.2 and that didn't work either.
So basically i can be online (surfing,downloading etc.) for few minutes before it drops gsm signal (no signal icon in statusbar) and after few minutes it comes back and then it drops again...
I'd like to know if it can be fixed without taking it to nearest sony repair service. Did anyone encounter similar problem and manage to fix it?
btw bootloader is locked (unlock allowed: no) so flashin another kernel/ROM is out of the question...
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Have you tried factory resting it ? Also you can unlock the boot loader just search xda im sure ive seen a guide somewhere ? i was going to say take it back to Sony as it might be a hardware problem but since you have rooted it your warranty has been voided...
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Have you tried factory resting it ? Also you can unlock the boot loader just search xda im sure ive seen a guide somewhere ? i was going to say take it back to Sony as it might be a hardware problem but since you have rooted it your warranty has been voided...
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Well firmware flashing via SUS repair option usually does that for me.. but yeah, i tried factory reset as well. And about bootloader unlocking i've been searching for a guide ever since i bought it. No such luck... Apparently if it's "bootloader unlock allowed: NO", it's meant to stay that way. At least until someone finds a way around it.
I've got a vague idea about how does rooting work and that tells me if i did a complete wipe and flashed my tablet, how can they detect it?
I mean.. it's a complete reinstall, how are they supposed to know that the tablet was rooted on previous firmware if it currently isn't?
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Well firmware flashing via SUS repair option usually does that for me.. but yeah, i tried factory reset as well. And about bootloader unlocking i've been searching for a guide ever since i bought it. No such luck... Apparently if it's "bootloader unlock allowed: NO", it's meant to stay that way. At least until someone finds a way around it.
I've got a vague idea about how does rooting work and that tells me if i did a complete wipe and flashed my tablet, how can they detect it?
I mean.. it's a complete reinstall, how are they supposed to know that the tablet was rooted on previous firmware if it currently isn't?
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Well im no pro, but don't they have some kind of binary counter witch tells the manufactures the devices has been rooted ? i know that's how Samsung goes about identifying if the devices has been rooted... But Sony im not too sure, Also your theory does hold ground, if you clean install from the ground up then Sony shouldn't be able to tell, if the device has been rooted, also you do know that Sony have a guide on there website on how to unlock the boot loader ? Here check it out http://developer.sonymobile.com/services/unlock-bootloader/
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Well im no pro, but don't they have some kind of binary counter witch tells the manufactures the devices has been rooted ? i know that's how Samsung goes about identifying if the devices has been rooted... But Sony im not too sure, Also your theory does hold ground, if you clean install from the ground up then Sony shouldn't be able to tell, if the device has been rooted, also you do know that Sony have a guide on there website on how to unlock the boot loader ? Here check it out...
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I know about that website. That's how i unlock every sony i come across that needs unlocking :laugh:
But it also says if the "Bootloader unlock allowed" is NO in service menu, then there is no hope for unlocking the bootloader. At least not officially.. until someone comes with a solution for that..
So i managed to get some extra details on that problem.
Apparently i can't get LTE signal anywhere. And when i get LTE, connection automatically drops.
Could it be that the LTE chip is faulty? Does that mean that i'll probably get another device... because somehow i doubt that theyll try to replace the motherboard