http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/10/3011498/sprint-small-cell-deployment-lte-rollout
pretty interesting.
Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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The evo 4g was available before Wimax was in 90% of places that it's currently available.
I think more people are likely to buy a phone that is ready for what is coming(LTE) than a phone that is for what is leaving(WiMax).
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Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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I might be mistaken, but im pretty sure VRZ did the same thing. The sold LTE phones before the LTE network was officially up and running.
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I might be mistaken, but im pretty sure VRZ did the same thing. The sold LTE phones before the LTE network was officially up and running.
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Yep. The Thunderbolt didn't have LTE at launch if I remember correctly. Sprint has LTE running but has blocked users from connecting. I bet they will have the Atlanta market ready by release of the new Evo.
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The evo 4g was available before Wimax was in 90% of places that it's currently available.
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I hear ya knockin'. These days, phones become outdated fast....faster than when the OG Evo came out. I want the Evo LTE to succeed, but not having LTE out at this point in time doesn't make me want to upgrade to it and people from other carriers won't want to leave their 4G. And a few months from now, when LTE finally gets going, the Evo LTE will be considered old. Just my $0.02.
Good news that Sprint is going the extra mile to improve the LTE.
This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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If you're so disgruntled with them, then why do you stay with them? Not trying to argue, nor troll.
edit: I don't have 4g, I barely have 3g, and when I do have 3g it is intolerable. However, sprint has the best voice coverage in my area, so I keep them. After all, these are phones
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If you're so disgruntled with them, then why do you stay with them? Not trying to argue, nor troll.
edit: I don't have 4g, I barely have 3g, and when I do have 3g it is intolerable. However, sprint has the best voice coverage in my area, so I keep them. After all, these are phones
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I'm not paying to get out of my contract (especially now that Sprint upped ETF's), that is why I stay. Simple as that.
Before I signed my current contract, I talked to a Sprint representative (not a Sprint store employee) who assured me that Sprint was going to be extremely proactive in establishing a network.
Since then:
-Sprint upped ETF's
-Sprint spent funds that should have been allocated to improving it's network on the iPhone
-Sprint ended the premiere rewards program (a major reason I stayed)
Prediction: When Sprint finally has a network that can compete with other companies say goodbye to unlimited data plans. Sprint only keeps them around because that is the only card they have to play.
Getting back to the article, Sprint needs to completely overhaul it's network, not deploy "personal network extenders" that only mask the problem.
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Sounds like a stall on the lte?
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I'm not paying to get out of my contract (especially now that Sprint upped ETF's), that is why I stay. Simple as that.
Before I signed my current contract, I talked to a Sprint representative (not a Sprint store employee) who assured me that Sprint was going to be extremely proactive in establishing a network.
Since then:
-Sprint upped ETF's
-Sprint spent funds that should have been allocated to improving it's network on the iPhone
-Sprint ended the premiere rewards program (a major reason I stayed)
Prediction: When Sprint finally has a network that can compete with other companies say goodbye to unlimited data plans. Sprint only keeps them around because that is the only card they have to play.
Getting back to the article, Sprint needs to completely overhaul it's network, not deploy "personal network extenders" that only mask the problem.
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Don't care how they do it, I just want the end result to be better than the Wimax. Which it will be.
Verizon did it pretty damned fast, AT&T is trying under extreme odds, Sprint doing it on their own should be inbetween.
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This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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Lets just say someone has no idea what network vision is or what it entails.
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Lets just say someone has no idea what network vision is or what it entails.
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It involves awesomeness. That's what. I bet it will be better than the other 3 carriers once it is finished.
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It involves awesomeness. That's what. I bet it will be better than the other 3 carriers once it is finished.
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...if Sprint can do it without going bankrupt first.
This sounds like a great idea for high traffic areas. Reminds me specifically last year at the state fair; there were so many people in such a small area that the tower(s) were so overloaded that data, voice, AND texting were absolutely unusable. You simply could not get through no matter what. It was horrible. Areas like that would be perfect for these small cells.
I'm just as fed up with sprints data service as everyone else is, but I have hope. If network vision ends up being as good as they say it is, I'll definitely be staying with them.
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This sounds like a great idea for high traffic areas. Reminds me specifically last year at the state fair; there were so many people in such a small area that the tower(s) were so overloaded that data, voice, AND texting were absolutely unusable. You simply could not get through no matter what. It was horrible. Areas like that would be perfect for these small cells.
I'm just as fed up with sprints data service as everyone else is, but I have hope. If network vision ends up being as good as they say it is, I'll definitely be staying with them.
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look at the towers they own. lmao. they don't own any towers. they have an entire tower in a CITY! then claim, OH YOU NOW HOW 4G! OR WE'RE DOING VOICE UPGRADES! SERIOUSLY!? TO A SINGLE TOWER!? It takes a network of towers in the RIGHT SPOTS to provide service. Sprint is a waste of time.
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look at the towers they own. lmao. they don't own any towers. they have an entire tower in a CITY! then claim, OH YOU NOW HOW 4G! OR WE'RE DOING VOICE UPGRADES! SERIOUSLY!? TO A SINGLE TOWER!? It takes a network of towers in the RIGHT SPOTS to provide service. Sprint is a waste of time.
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Exactly. All these people are swallowing everything Sprint is feeding them.
"Network Vision is going to be great!"
"Sprint's network is going to be better than all the other carriers!"
Please. "Network Vision" is just that, a vision, a concept, an idea, a hope and a dream. It only becomes a reality when Sprint begins to aggressively overhaul it's 3G and 4G networks. Not install "personal network extenders." lol.
Sprint has the crappiest network and is pretty much broke. I'm so sure that they will have the best network available in two years time.
I'm guessing that the people who believe in all this "Network Vision" crap are the same people that thought WiMAX would be better than lte. How'd that play out.
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Exactly. All these people are swallowing everything Sprint is feeding them.
"Network Vision is going to be great!"
"Sprint's network is going to be better than all the other carriers!"
Please. "Network Vision" is just that, a vision, a concept, an idea, a hope and a dream. It only becomes a reality when Sprint begins to aggressively overhaul it's 3G and 4G networks. Not install "personal network extenders." lol.
Sprint has the crappiest network and is pretty much broke. I'm so sure that they will have the best network available in two years time.
I'm guessing that the people who believe in all this "Network Vision" crap are the same people that thought WiMAX would be better than lte. How'd that play out.
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Played out pretty well. 12-15 mbps for me. That's plenty of fast for the things I use it for.
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Played out pretty well. 12-15 mbps for me. That's plenty of fast for the things I use it for.
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Did it? Know how much money Sprint shoved into that network even though nearly everyone in the industry said it would never work? What do they have to show for it? A network that they will keep around for the next couple of years until they redo it with lte, what it should have been in the first place.
I'm glad you can use it and that it works good for you, that still doesn't replace the fact that it was a huge business mistake.
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Sprint signed a $20 billion 15 year agreement with Lightsquare to build and use a 4G LTE network.
It made me put a halt in buying the 3D, as I would rather have LTE than WiMax. If only for the better building penetration, I get no 4G at work with my Evo, but a friend gets almost full bars with LTE.
But I suppose it would be at least a year before the network launches with LTE phones anyway right?
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Sprint signed a $20 billion 15 year agreement with Lightsquare to build and use a 4G LTE network.
It made me put a halt in buying the 3D, as I would rather have LTE than WiMax. If only for the better building penetration, I get no 4G at work with my Evo, but a friend gets almost full bars with LTE.
But I suppose it would be at least a year before the network launches with LTE phones anyway right?
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Why? If you have an upgrade now use it. It will be some time before it will be operational and have phones for it.
Considering how "fast" wimax deployment was, you could get the 3D without much risk, IMO.
If they just signed the delivery expect it to be a while before the conversion even starts and the even longer before they start hitting anything but very large markets
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My city is always one of the first to get new networks. Austin, TX. We have Dell, IBM, Intel, Google, and AMD all with large offices here, I assume that's why.
But yeah I think I should be good waiting and getting the Evo 3D
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I knew wimax was a stupid move, no surprise.
Thank God, screw verizon
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And they picked the LTE service that has huge problems with GPS interference, how awesome!!
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Sprint signed a $20 billion 15 year agreement with Lightsquare to build and use a 4G LTE network.
It made me put a halt in buying the 3D, as I would rather have LTE than WiMax. If only for the better building penetration, I get no 4G at work with my Evo, but a friend gets almost full bars with LTE.
But I suppose it would be at least a year before the network launches with LTE phones anyway right?
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You're speculating that it will have better building penetration, because we don't know what frequency band it will be initially launched on.
Right now, Sprint has access to the 2.5ghz band, where WiMax sits. If sprint uses it for an initial launch, building penetration won't be any better then with WiMax.
You all are speculating that Sprint will even use them for mobile data and not backhaul.
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You all are speculating that Sprint will even use them for mobile data and not backhaul.
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I'm pretty sure in the deal Sprint is providing the network. That's the main thing that's in it for Lightsquared.
I like Wimax. LTE will just be a bonus. Wimax does a great job as is.
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I too like Wimax, but I think LTE has greater long term potential. I am glad that Sprint is investing in LTE.
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Sprint signed a $20 billion 15 year agreement with Lightsquare to build and use a 4G LTE network.
It made me put a halt in buying the 3D, as I would rather have LTE than WiMax. If only for the better building penetration, I get no 4G at work with my Evo, but a friend gets almost full bars with LTE.
But I suppose it would be at least a year before the network launches with LTE phones anyway right?
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I dont have time right now to search for ya but jump into the Evo4G general forum and search clearwire and read up a lot there.
LTE is NOT better than WiMax and vice versa. Its all about the network and how the tech is deployed to us. You put LTE on the same towers as WiMax is right now and same freq, then you will end up with the exact same problems we all have right now with WiMax.
That news there is lil old too, and even more so Clear got the clear to increase the width of their channels from 5.5MHz to 20MHz from the FCC. They ran tests long ago at 20MHz and were hitting 80Mbps! Though yes speed is nothing if you can't connect to it. lol
its all about tower placement and freq and combination of the two.
Since your new, you should search around and read up on Sprints Project Leapfrog(Network Vision Upgrade) that is underway and will be better for Sprint and all of us.
Upgrade every year.. no worries. LTE wont hit the market in the next few months.. i dont expect to see it in the next 6 months. The E3D will do you just fine till a LTE phone is avail, and by then, your going to want to get the next best phone out anyways.
enjoy the phone or whatever phone you choose to go with.
Here is a good article about Wimax and LTE:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/060710-tech-argument-lte-wimax.html
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That news there is lil old too, and even more so Clear got the clear to increase the width of their channels from 5.5MHz to 20MHz from the FCC. They ran tests long ago at 20MHz and were hitting 80Mbps! Though yes speed is nothing if you can't connect to it. lol
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Could you provide me the link of Clear getting the clear from FCC? Their June 9th proposal was scrapped, which means either means postpone for a later date, or nixed completely. I'm going to wait for official news with Sprint, Clearwire, and Cox, before I speak on the matter. Your post is the bigger news to me.
Edit: I've just taken a peek at the tentative agenda, and the actual june meeting, and it wasn't there. July 12th the next meeting.
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You all are speculating that Sprint will even use them for mobile data and not backhaul.
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Bwahahahahaha!! You right, but you're speculating that we're speculating that you're speculating that we're speculating on what Sprint's speculating!
It seems no one really knows what's going on ... That includes Sprint! Did I just speculate again?
Ahah, found something definitive. According to this article I just found it seems they are indeed planning to switch to LTE. So now I just wonder what the benefits of LTE over WiMAX are? Bit for bit WiMAX is more efficient so it's not that.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/fcc-consider-proposal-could-boost-clearwire-network-speeds/2011-05-23
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Could you provide me the link of Clear getting the clear from FCC? Their June 9th proposal was scrapped, which means either means postpone for a later date, or nixed completely. I'm going to wait for official news with Sprint, Clearwire, and Cox, before I speak on the matter. Your post is the bigger news to me.
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Yeah, I found it completely odd that no blog or anyone else mentioned anything about the stuff after the date came and went with nothing big announced at all so I ended up emailing the FCC Press Secretary, Office of the Chairman Neil Derek Grace. He looked into the specific agenda item which i found odd to be on the pre-prelim agenda and then when the next prelim agenda for that meeting was released it was not on there at all and no notice of its removal b/c it wasn't the actual prelim agenda right before the mtg.
Here is what I wrote him:
According to the tentative agenda http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2011/db0519/DOC-306766A1.pdf the June 9th meeting was supposed to go over the following:
"Wider Channel Bandwidths FNPRM: An FNPRM seeking comment on a proposal which may permit operators to use spectrum more efficiently by enabling the use of wider channel bandwidths for the provision of broadband services in the Broadband Radio Service (BRS) and the Educational Broadband Service (EBS)."
Is there a reason this was dropped from the agenda suddenly and when will this issue get addressed?
Best Regards,
Jase S.
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Here are the two quotes from Neil in regards to the issue.
"Hi Jase - this was voted on between the preminary notice and the meeting, which is why it wasn't on the final agenda. "
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"Hi Jase –
Yes, this is routine. If an item is voted on before the meeting, it’s removed from the agenda because it no longer needs to be considered. It was voted & adopted on 5/24 and released on 5/27. If you want to look at the docket for results – it’s item 11-81.
Thanks - Neil"
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Now I looked for that through the FCC site through their search but couldn't find it b/c the results were nothing near what I wanted it seemed. In the end I figured he was right as it took him a few days to get me an official answer on it. His first response was for me to hang while he looked into it.
Though if you find anything different to conflict with that let me know and ill be sure to shoot the guy back and see whats up.
For those of you who did not know about this site, it is different and seperate than the original coverage map.
http://network.sprint.com
It shows tower locations as well as if they are going to be doing data/voice capacity upgrades/maintenance to it in the next 6 months, and the last years worth of upgrades/maintenance updates.
I got this from an Epic 4G thread back in the day and forgot about it til now.
Good find. Thanks
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nice find man!
Now if they would only do the projected upgrades when they say they will...... Not holding my breath.
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For information on Network Vision, http://s4gru.com is a good place to get info. Seems like Sprint is going to be underpromising and then over delivering this time around so they don't get flack like they did with clearwire and wimax.
No wonder my signal at home sucks!
richmc73 said:
For information on Network Vision, http://s4gru.com is a good place to get info. Seems like Sprint is going to be underpromising and then over delivering this time around so they don't get flack like they did with clearwire and wimax.
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Wow, speculation central? Not a single bit of evidence for any post in the entire forum and reposts of stuff already announced by Sprint. AND the site even says it is not affiliated with Sprint/Nextel. What a waste of web space.
But thanks for sharing.
Nice, according to the map, there is a tower two streets down from my house.
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Wow, speculation central? Not a single bit of evidence for any post in the entire forum and reposts of stuff already announced by Sprint. AND the site even says it is not affiliated with Sprint/Nextel. What a waste of web space.
But thanks for sharing.
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You obviously have not read our site. We have more original sources and original stories about Sprint and Network Vision than ANY source on the web, including Sprint. We announced today an original story about San Francisco and Network Vision. We completed a recent article last week with a great amount of detail about the Chicago Network Vision/LTE Deployment.
We post internal information from Sprint and Network Vision partners that are not public information. You will have to pardon me if I don't leak documents that will compromise our sources. But time will prove it all out.
And yes, we are not affiliated with Sprint Nextel. And that is a good thing. Otherwise, you wouldn't hear anything! We are THE source for Sprint Network Vision out there.
Robert Herron
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thanks mr cloak and dagger ;p;
Either way it will be years before sprint brings any lte or real 4g to most customers. Im still angry that wimax never made it to Toledo. Instead went to every other city in Ohio. Detroit got shammed too. Where did my extra $10 a month go to after getting a wimax phone?
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Either way it will be years before sprint brings any lte or real 4g to most customers. Im still angry that wimax never made it to Toledo. Instead went to every other city in Ohio. Detroit got shammed too. Where did my extra $10 a month go to after getting a wimax phone?
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The $10/month is not for Wimax or any 4G, it is for owning a smartphone. All smartphones are subject to this charge.
No, it is for 4G enabled phones.
Didn't have the charges for our crackberries.
Only when we switched to the 4G models.
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No, it is for 4G enabled phones.
Didn't have the charges for our crackberries.
Only when we switched to the 4G models.
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Blackberry's have their own plans. It's not for 4G. Anyone here can tell you that.
That $10 extra a month is for premium data ..on smartphones even if they dont have 4g..i.e samsung moment,samsung intercept are 3g only and that fee applies to them
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Why are some people dying to get the EVO LTE when there is not LTE yet? From what I understand it will only work on the 3g and LTE network and for now the Sprint 3G sucks for the most part according to a lot of people. Didn't we learn from the Wimax fiasco? I live in Greensboro, NC and service here is really bad. We do have 4G if you can get it here and there so I would say we do not! I just don't see upgrading to a new technology phone when you can't take advantage of it for at least a year and some people 2-3 or more years. Yes, Sprint has to go to the LTE to survive but what if they don't and get bought out? No flaming just wondering. It is your money and you're free to choose the phone you like.
silly comment, dont buy it then, for some lte will be in there town very soon if not dont buy simple. its not all or nothing for all
this is a pointless thread
The phone is great without LTE. Also the wifi I'm around kills whatever LTE can do, Its gonna be a plus when its enabled.
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LTE is one of the things it can do great, the phone's hardware makes it one of the best out right now and thus makes me want it, to upgrade my old 3D and Nexus S
Many reasons to upgrade...
like mentioned before the phone itself is an upgrade without LTE!!
And for the comment, "...lets not forget the WiMax fiasco..." that was all on Clearwire not Sprint. Big difference. Yes Sprint has majority ownership in Clearwire but they do NOT handle the day-to-day decisions for them in any way. The rollout of LTE/NetworkVision is being done by Sprint and already well underway as the contractors have been assigned their areas and are on the ground doing the work right now across the US. Its happening whether people want to believe it or not.
Now, if you live in a well covered WiMax area and use WiMax a ton right now & are not in one of the cities set to get NetworkVision in round 1(link in my sig), THEN I completely understand NOT getting this device as you will lose your WiMax and be without any 4G use for a long period of time.
I am mainly doing it for the specs. It is easier to spend more money and have a phone last a couple of years with higher specs then it is to get a moderately average spec phone every year... If that makes sense.
I really would like to play with the NFC stuff though
Hey, I know that the phone itself is an upgrade but is it enough to make it worth the money and the 2 year contract? What if the roll out is not really fast? Sprint is a little short on money and people are going to Verizon or other services even though they are paying a little more every month. Heck, I am debating that move myself but I do not like Verizon customer service and I really really love my EVO 4G! Only phone I ever had for a full two years.
I would think that a new phone will be out in less than six months that will be better than the EVO LTE for a lot of us that do not have very good 3G service and some 4g service here and there. Like I said, I am not flaming anyone. I am just trying to understand the urge when most of us do not have the service to take advantage of the phone.
Data capabilities get too much attention. Who cares. I have Wifi and 3G. Hasn't bothered me yet having only them two.
You must be in an office situation must of the time. I spend about 6 hours or more everyday on the road. Data is very important to me.
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Data capabilities get too much attention. Who cares. I have Wifi and 3G. Hasn't bothered me yet having only them two.
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I was/will be there for you.
I have no problem upgrading to an LTE device, even if there is no LTE coverage in my area, I already know its coming to my area in the Round 2 rollout. Its time to upgrade my hardware to something better. The original EVO 4G was a game changer for the industry, and its successor will add to it - that is if it ever gets released in the country, and not permanently banned.
I'm getting the phone for the specs. 3g does all I need to do on the road and I honestly used 4g on about 3 times in my lifetime. Lte will be nice but I won't be seeing it around here for at least 18 months lol
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to the original poster you are absolutely correct the thing has no mobile data service on it. When the original evo came out (which i had and loved it) 3g at least worked ok so no wimax was no big deal. Now 3g is a joke. You want to poke fun at apple, think of the fools that bought an iphone on sprint, no mobile data there either. I really hope lte comes soon because without it sprint might not make it. If you test drive a phone anything like you test drive a car you will say no thanks and go to the next dealer down the road. Glad my evo3d has wimax in my town.
I have 4G in my town and I don't even use it now..And Sprint 3G is actually pretty good where I live.Over 1.2MB down stream.
Plus the phone is beast.
<<I am a victim of Apple patent #5,946,647>>
Don't forget about those of us who don't even have access to WiMAX 4g anyway.
Outstanding phone - WiMAX - LTE > ok phone - WiMAX -LTE
Outstanding phone > ok phone
WOW!
If you get those 3G speeds than I can see getting the phone and and hoping for the new LTE coming. I barely get 150kbs if lucky(most of times between 5 and 70kbs) and if I get over 1Mbs is when I get on Wimax. My buddy's DroidX beats me almost each and every time especially on 3G. Heck, I check MSNBC a lot for news and sometimes it take more than two minutes just to load and sometimes I just close out of the browser because it is so slow. LOL
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I have 4G in my town and I don't even use it now..And Sprint 3G is actually pretty good where I live.Over 1.2MB down stream.
Plus the phone is beast.
<<I am a victim of Apple patent #5,946,647>>
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Why are some people dying to get the EVO LTE when there is not LTE yet? From what I understand it will only work on the 3g and LTE network and for now the Sprint 3G sucks for the most part according to a lot of people. Didn't we learn from the Wimax fiasco? I live in Greensboro, NC and service here is really bad. We do have 4G if you can get it here and there so I would say we do not! I just don't see upgrading to a new technology phone when you can't take advantage of it for at least a year and some people 2-3 or more years. Yes, Sprint has to go to the LTE to survive but what if they don't and get bought out? No flaming just wondering. It is your money and you're free to choose the phone you like.
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Well for me personally lte in bmore is going live this month so it's perfect timing for me.
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I do not have wimax here and never will. I have a repeater at work and wifi at home along with an air rave. I want the device for performance, music and camera. I can happily wait for lte. Just give me the dam phone.
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Hey OP if you really want a HTC EVO LTE type on a fast network now. Complain to sprint so they can let you out of your contract then get a One X on AT&T.
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I moved out of a WiMax area over a year ago but my current area is getting LTE this summer. Even without LTE, I'm not losing speed and I'm gaining a much faster phone.
So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
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So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
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Not really sure, however, Sprint offers unlimited data, Verizon doesn't, and Verizon is still the #1 in the U.S. So, what that says, is Sprint is lacking other major areas: spotty Wimax, no 4G LTE yet, poor phone line up. My experience is Sprint offers more for less, but, that's not enough to keep people from jumping ship.
I guess what I'm getting at, is how can this really hurt Sprint any more?
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
krayziejoe said:
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
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I'd do the same, however, I'd blow through the data limit. I have no issues with my 3G service (although it's less than desirable in speed) or my reception (until I go in to Wal-Mart, lol!). 4G/Wimax sucks. I wouldn't be able to afford Verizon. My bill would easily increase by 50%.
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE.
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I don't think we have anything to worry about. Sprint can afford to keep unlimited data because their data speeds are 5 times slower than other carriers.
Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
I don't think Verizon's plan will harm us per say . I actually think that it will drum up a little business for Sprint with them finally having a good summer lineup of phones and being cheaper. However I believe the next year to year and a half will either make or break Sprint. I for one waited patiently for the promise of wimax now like 90% of Sprint subscribers I'm still waiting for Wimax and or waiting for LTE. There will come a time soon when I'll get tired of promises and ditch them for another network even if it costs more. I'm not a speed junky but the 2/3g towers are so overburdened it's a joke in the 12 states i've been to I've never EVER gotten more then 1.2 megs with wimax or 3g while my sister in law's crappy old og droid opens 2-3 webpages while I'm waiting on one.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
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I hope you are correct, the more i read about network vision and the different bandwidths etc the more confused i get
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I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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Ditto. According to the upgrade map on Sprint's site, every tower around my house has been upgraded, yet I still drop calls and get a max of 100kbps on 3g, even with full bars.
I am really struggling to find a reason to stay with Sprint. Sure it is great to have unlimited everything, but if I can't even place a phone call out of my kitchen, what's the value?
I'm waiting for the sgs3 to drop, if dev is the same for Sprint and Verizon. Then bye-bye Sprint.
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I'm glad im not the only one that feels this way. I pay $70/month for crappy service. I could be paying $80-85 and have great service. I think that's well worth the extra money.
Sprint has really dropped the ball. I got my evo 4g it was the best out. They followed with the evo 3d and was still good. Everything since then has been dissappointing. The new evo 4g lte is far from good enough to make me sign a new contract. They never even got the 4g working that well in my area, even though its supposed to be. Not signing a new contact in a few weeks when my old one is up for their broken promises
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Newklearx3 said:
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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i switched to the 0002 prl about two days ago and it's the best thing i've ever done lol
As mentioned their plan won't hurt us because we have a crappy network. Verizon can switch things up because their network actually performs. I can't switch because of those outrages prices and I'm pretty sure I would burn through a gig of data.
From the comments I read it seems like this move by Verizon may land Sprint and ATT some customers.
verizons plan will lose out on customers and bring more to other networks as said earlier in the thread. but it really depends on where you live, alltel and sprint have the better signals around here. plus you just cant beat unlimited data
I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?
I'm actually s sprint employee and switched to Verizon today and the network is leaps and bounds ahead of the sprint network and the droid DNA is amazing to say the least
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Balian67 said:
I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?
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Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?
I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.
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For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?
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The M7 doesn't have a 13 MP camera...Its based off Ultrapixels.
Verizon has great coverage compared to Sprint. It does depend on where you live so you might want to ask people you live around to see if Verizon gets good coverage where you work and live.
Also, if you buy your DNA from Amazon Wireless, its on sale for $50 for new contracts. Verizon also does a student discount if you are a college student or something. Verizon does charge a lot for its services compared to other places in the world, but it has one of the best networks(if not the best) in United States.
I didn't know that about the M7. However, I did read what ultra pixels are. Long story short the M7 will have 3 4.3MP sensors that collectively make a final result image that is supposed to have better color and image reproduction. Sounds interesting none-the-less.
Article: http://www.technocrates.org/what-are-ultrapixels/
subprime said:
I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.
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This is the same exact argument I am trying to use with my dad. We are paying 205 (including taxs and fees) on sprint for a 2G (15+ yr old) and 3G (8+ yr old) technology and network. It would only make sense to pay the 230 + Tax and Fees
I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.
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I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.
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Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Ha tell me about it, I'm trying to remain optimistic that a fix will come about.
Sprint data doesn't compare.
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