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Since SDE was released, who wants to build some fresh and shiny android which might be running someday side by side with AVOS (Archos Android)?
What do we need (openembedded?)?
Installation of Other OS:
root: /mnt/storage/rootfs.img
kernel:
Reboot into Recovery Mode (howto)
Recovery System -> Developer Edition Menu -> Flash Kernel and Initramfs
Connect USB and copy "zImage" and "initramfs.cpio.gz" to the Archos
Unmount Archos on PC (safe remove)
Press ok on Archos
Don't you think dev's are already working on this right now?
OpenAS is a site to look at, there are a few in fact and some even on XDA.
your instructions are sort of nothing anyone who has booted the angstrom distribution can see that?
this thread is a bit pointless. your asking for devs to create something they are already working on and you can't help as you don't know how?
no, you just missed the point. I AM (or want to be) a dev, see my other thread about dvb-t support
and now I'm looking for some help and informations.
this thread should be dedicated to building gen8 android (2.2 / 2.3 / ...) roms, I don't care much about angstrom.
I'm not one of those annoying guys who just complaining about others work, I want to get my hands dirty and do some work! I already checked openaos out, there a lot of informations about gen6 and gen7 but not gen8, this is why I started this thread here.
summarizing informations, that's the point.
ok fair enough
it's more likely though someone will do a port and use it over the current android system as apposed to using the SDE. Most dev's will be concentrating on other O/S's such as Ubuntu etc.
I can see why you want to do it but im not sure it will be done this way. We havent even managed to get perm root yet, sadly the archos wont get a lot of love I fear.
we have perm root, just use SDE and put an android in it we can decide everything
edit: either you hack the gen8 and get rid of SDE and archos' android and put whatever you want on it or you stay with SDE and dual boot (sounds a less "brickable" choice to me)
chulri said:
no, you just missed the point. I AM (or want to be) a dev, see my other thread about dvb-t support
and now I'm looking for some help and informations.
this thread should be dedicated to building gen8 android (2.2 / 2.3 / ...) roms, I don't care much about angstrom.
I'm not one of those annoying guys who just complaining about others work, I want to get my hands dirty and do some work! I already checked openaos out, there a lot of informations about gen6 and gen7 but not gen8, this is why I started this thread here.
summarizing informations, that's the point.
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but I say go with your dreams and keep up the good work (whatever work that may be).
Don't let anyone tell you you can't do it (whatever "it" may be). Any contribution to making my A70 better is a + in my book.
chulri said:
we have perm root, just use SDE and put an android in it we can decide everything
edit: either you hack the gen8 and get rid of SDE and archos' android and put whatever you want on it or you stay with SDE and dual boot (sounds a less "brickable" choice to me)
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But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
it would be a complete waste of time especially as archos are currently working on it anyway.
It would achieve nothing, the SDE would be much better used running ubuntu/winxp or other, running android as a secondary boot option is a waste of development time and I cant see anyone wanting to do it?
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
why would someone want to run ubuntu on this hardware? winxp is out of scope as it doesn't support arm processors.
waz000000 said:
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
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why shouldn't we have root in SDE?? The SDE is the only way (so far, gen8 hasn't been hacked yet) to get perm root and custom roms.
why won't you just use SDE to run custom android roms? why it has to be ubuntu or any other bloated linux distribution?
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But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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Agreed, who cares if you have more then one build of Android on a device? On other devices people have developed their own method of doing this exact thing. SDE is a great idea to let people load custom ROMs onto their device without fear of bricking. Now if someone would just get one developed....
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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Archos have released the source code, the only thing that's missing is Root.
The distro is already pretty close to stock even the BT stack is android native allowing us to use wiimote etc.
Archos have done a pretty "pure" android release Cynogen's goal is get a pure android rom working. Stock it's not that far away now?
and what about ISO, windows 7 (mobile), tiny linux, yellow dog, many other great distro's. All im saying is wait until root is achieved (it's being worked on) nd see what happens to the default android then.
Your may be jumping the gun a bit developing something that's not needed
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But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
it would be a complete waste of time especially as archos are currently working on it anyway.
It would achieve nothing, the SDE would be much better used running ubuntu/winxp or other, running android as a secondary boot option is a waste of development time and I cant see anyone wanting to do it?
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
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was agreeing with you until this post.
the point is that Archos have up until now done a bit of a shoddy job of their Android builds. We all want the archos tablet running smoothly and as best we can and also would like to have 2.3+ on our devices which is probably unlikely by any official means.
and saying archos are "currently working on it" is a little silly given what forum you are on! (whats the point in people making custom roms for HTC devices... HTC are working on it anyway?!)
@wazalotofzeros
oh come on, are you kidding me? why is it so hard to understand that a rooted android or even custom roms are wanted by a lot of archos users (see archosfans.com)
whats the point of installing any linux distribution instead of android?
why are you telling me its pointless to do custom roms for the Archos Gen8 while there are custom roms for a lot of other android devices?
I give up, please contribute something useful to this topic or stop posting offtopic.
@waz000000,
don't want to participate in this then don't. There is no reason to put down others work though just because you think it is pointless.
Grand Idea
Personally I think this is a grand idea. At first when I saw the SDE I thought that was its whole purpose and that archos would start us off with a basic android version. But when it was released and it came with a barely working linux distro, it turned me off to installing SDE until something better can happen. I wouldn't mind seeing a micro version of ubuntu running on this, but the main problem is going to be the ram. If we are having issues with the ram on android what makes you think we will have better luck on a OS that wasn't intended to run on the archos. But hey more power to you. But on the other hand if we can build our own android firmwares, then we won't be dependent on Archos to decide whether or not to update to the next firmware. And saying Archos is working on it is like saying well the end of the world is coming. When IDK, but its coming!
Seriously. The delayed the launch by 2 months and then didn't deliver on their promise of launching with 2.2. They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
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new firmware came out today! works great on my A101, no crashes or freezes so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875393
laptopfreek0 said:
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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Me neither but I'm willing to do if nobody else does, simply because of my DVB-T project in the other thread
€dit I'll give cyanogenmod a try
thefunkygibbon said:
was agreeing with you until this post.
the point is that Archos have up until now done a bit of a shoddy job of their Android builds. We all want the archos tablet running smoothly and as best we can and also would like to have 2.3+ on our devices which is probably unlikely by any official means.
and saying archos are "currently working on it" is a little silly given what forum you are on! (whats the point in people making custom roms for HTC devices... HTC are working on it anyway?!)
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ok fair enough so what would you rather?
a cynogen mod with archos firmware or linux distro (Whatever) and cynogenmod?
im not saying dont work on a custom rom, im saying work on a "proper" custom rom and use the dual boot option for something other than android.
1st step develop root
2nd step develop custom rom
3rd step install another distro
What im trying to say is, develop a "proper" custom rom and leave the dual boot option for something mind blowing!
as to blazingwolf im not trying to put anyone's work down (apart from the fact there isn't any yet this is pure concept)
I could very easily help you develop a working second rom for this but all im saying is wait a little while and see what happens I cant hint anymore than that!!!!!!!!
waz000000 said:
I could very easily help you develop a working second rom for this but all im saying is wait a little while and see what happens I cant hint anymore than that!!!!!!!!
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who does what and when it gets released?
in the mean time have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610303
i know its different hardware but use a cynogen beta like the I9000 as a base, and work from there, even try the original firmware and look to cook that one.
you will be surprised how almost stock the archos one is
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Personally I think this is a grand idea. At first when I saw the SDE I thought that was its whole purpose and that archos would start us off with a basic android version. But when it was released and it came with a barely working linux distro, it turned me off to installing SDE until something better can happen. I wouldn't mind seeing a micro version of ubuntu running on this, but the main problem is going to be the ram. If we are having issues with the ram on android what makes you think we will have better luck on a OS that wasn't intended to run on the archos. But hey more power to you. But on the other hand if we can build our own android firmwares, then we won't be dependent on Archos to decide whether or not to update to the next firmware. And saying Archos is working on it is like saying well the end of the world is coming. When IDK, but its coming!
Seriously. The delayed the launch by 2 months and then didn't deliver on their promise of launching with 2.2. They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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the purpose of SDE is to give users a way to dual boot and be able to load "another" operating system. The Angstrom image we provide is just a demo and nothing else. You are free to put anything else, like Android 4.0, Meego, Maemo or whatever else you want...
Is there a chance That Someone with appropriate qualifications prepare for us a version 3.2 for the Folio?
in the forum of Vega They did a version of Vegacomb 3.2 Build 6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221336
Cant the vegacomb be flashed on to the folio ?, would be nice sins mine is updated to the latest official patch and i cant rly do so much fun stuff with it.
i think folio development is dead and in this forum all mod is discontinued ..
Only hope is mblaster and MrMEEE
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Sol_Lupo said:
i think folio development is dead and in this forum all mod is discontinued ..
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Just google for "dexter folio". First hit is dexters homepage. You will find a link to his current support forum there... He is not inactive, just moved somewhere else.
@Jon2555: I am not working on a 3.2 port. I don't know much about porting (this is basically the reason why i have not answered your pm yet, sorry). I prefer android versions that can be compiled from source.
I know that you don't work on 3.2 version but you have some skills and android 4.0 will open source and you'll can compile it. We're hoping
Dexter in this forum :
http://tabletroms.com/forums/folio-rom-development/
and bsx Made a new update From 1.7 vegacomb
shpitz said:
Dexter in this forum :
http://tabletroms.com/forums/folio-rom-development/
and bsx Made a new update From 1.7 vegacomb
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What about this update?
Something better?
I used Folio3x before, but too slow for everyday use.
Poor graphic performances.
Functioning quite well. Especially those who suffered from the button crazy.
Neutralize the buttons on the right side and only use the buttons HC.
Moved to proper forum.
are there any developers out there creating roms for this? It would nice to have a kernel at least, i know there is one out but its only for the european version. We need developers!!
I got the time for it but not the brain for it im best at testing roms
Doesn't seem that anyone's developing ROMs at the moment, although some are trying. I think first we need to get a recovery working such as Clockworkmod so we can flash the ROMs to the device.
I just got my player a few days ago, but I've been doing some research on how to port CWM to new devices and hopefully something will come to fruition. I'm not a programmer by any means, but I know linux pretty well so hopefully I'll be able to put something together.
Does someone know where there is documentation on how to install new ROMs using Linux? I don't have windows or Mac.
I'm trying to install 2.3.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389809
I believe the instructions are in the android developers kit, so I'll go there next unless someone has a quick pointer.
Thanks,
Daniel
I think the only way currently is with the software samsung gives you, but I might be wrong. Mine came with 2.3.5 on it - I'm using linux mint but haven't had a need to figure it out.
Some people over in the Android Development thread are working on it from what I hear. CM9 here I come!
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Some people over in the Android Development thread are working on it from what I hear. CM9 here I come!
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Can you show us the link from where you read it please?
Dear Gods and Mortals,
I've just joined XDA a few minutes ago, and am about to post for the very first time.. Please be gentle to a certified n00b..:angel:
Anyway, I've learned a lot reading articles here in XDA, and I think it's time I give back, and hope my 3 cents worth would be of any help..
I'm using an Atrix MB861, and just like you guys, am frustrated with Motorola for not sharing ice cream with us..
I have also read that the ICS ROMs of Samsung Galaxy R i9103 and LG Optimus 2x are not useful in the effort of improving ICS and JB efforts for the Atrix.
After sifting through some Chinese websites, I've come across ZTE U970 (Mimosa, Grand), which may have similar specs with the Atrix. Maybe some dev can try disassembling it for some usable kernels or whatchoo-choos.
They have posted on their website a JB/ICS ROM update. (Sorry, as a n00b cannot post links)
So, is it of any use? I really someone checks it out whether it's legit.
Thank you for your time and for bearing with a n00b post.:silly:
doqmyk
PS: presently using epinter's (THANK YOU:good CM10.1.. fast, stable, very usable.. just no mic and poor cam.
PS2: Also, can anyone tell me how to click the so-called "ThankYou" button? I use IE10 and FF Beta, but I see no "Thank You button"..
This has already been discussed, the only kernel that passed the tests to run on the Atrix was the kernel of the Galaxy R that is currently being ported by our devs.
Hi,
I have localy almost all tegra2 devices kernels. Also ZTE Grand's one. I'm using them as reference. ZTE uses same method of lcd panel init, LG has similar method of tegrapart use (mmc partition offset), Xooms has similar (older) PMU. Each one is helpful, yet none is compatible enough to be used on it's own. Since getting JTAG uart we can work on any kernel, so galaxy/xoom only kernel is no longer valid (just for clarification).
If you check the website download, they have the NEW TEST ROM 4.1 JB version. As I reviewed the old XDA posts, it only points to the old 4.0 stock ROM with 2.6 kernel, NOT the new Test ROM.
Maybe we can download the NEW 4.1 ROM and see if we can analyze it for stuff we can use or modify, as Atrix and U970 comes from the same AP20/AP25 Tegra2 Family. Who knows, they might have a working 3.x kernel on their NEW test ROM..
Still hoping ang believing...
Reading the much older posts (Aug 2012), many (readers, not the Devs) seem to shoot down the idea of using the built-in drivers in these ROMS without actually trying to crack or use it first.. Better try NOW, as Moto ICS upgrade is a dream. Now, because it's a matter of principle. Now, because the longer the time, the more new powerful cheaper phones arrive to distract us away from our principles..:crying:
Anyway, enough of the yada-yada. If anyone is interested in the latest Jelly Bean ROM of U970 (Nov 29 2012), and the latest updated ICS ROM of Hisense T96 (Sept 2012), here they are:
[JB-ROM] ZTE U970 Nov 29 2012 LATEST
www . zte . com.cn / cndata/ mobile/ Spbook/ 201211/ P020121129624096008654. zip
[ICS=ROM] Hisense T96 (same Tegra2 AP20H) Sept 2012 LATEST (click 下载)
pan . baidu. com /share /link? shareid=60329 & uk=556702999
While everyone plays around in Android world,
I thought: why not go outside it and build something not so ordinary?
I've already tagged most capable developers to this project, so if you're willing to help. let me know.
Some of these unusual OSes might never work, but we could try, at least.
No announcements, no release dates. Just for playing around. For now.
XDA:DevDB Information
Anyone wants something out of Android world?, ROM for the LG Optimus L7 II
Contributors
airidosas252, christi9503, weritos
ROM OS Version: 4.1.x Jelly Bean
ROM Kernel: Linux 3.4.x
Version Information
Status: Testing
Created 2015-02-03
Last Updated 2015-02-03
Okay.
First off, Firefox OS is coming in the game.
I've already gathered neccessary sources, so next step is to make appropriate device tree.
Since Firefox OS uses Android kernel, it wouldn't be much of a problem, I think.
The whole major work will begin upcoming weekend. Stay tuned.
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Sailfish OS will be on hold. It requires Cyanogenmod 10.1 as a bare minimum. Stock ROM won't cut it.
Okay... Firefox OS... Bad news... We need completely stock AOSP ROM in order for Firefox OS to work.
I started compiling and porting it and now everything's on hold. We have to hope that Cristi succeeds with his work eventually.
All of these OSes are similar to Android (uses same kernel, uses same drivers, work literally the same) but with current Jelly Bean, I can't do pretty much anything.
I will port those OSes. You can trust me, but without time, I'm powerless.
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Ubuntu touch?
So Ubuntu should be easy too, as it is similliar to CM when it comes to building and porting from what i heard. I am completely noob to porting mobile OSes, but i will be trying to port it, maybe i will make something useful (I know I sound too optimistic)
Sorry for bad english
Is the ROM build completed?(Not asking for an ETA)
But Thanks for the rom.
XDA-00 said:
Is the ROM build completed?(Not asking for an ETA)
But Thanks for the rom.
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This phone is pretty much dead now. No new ports are going to be made, sorry
MilkyPL said:
This phone is pretty much dead now. No new ports are going to be made, sorry
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So sad!
MilkyPL said:
This phone is pretty much dead now. No new ports are going to be made, sorry
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If devs abandoned making these OS'es for this Phone, then why isn't this thread closed and deleted.
Thread Closed.