Hi!
Can anyone please tell me why android not support NTFS file system. I think NTFS more speeder than FAT and FAT 32 and other file systems. So is it technical or patent issue? I think NTFS file system developed by Microsoft ( if i'm incorrect please correct).
Thanks!
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It's based on the linux kernel and as such uses a linux file system which is ext 2, 3 or 4 and a swap partition.
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really i also think ntfs support or exfat are needed
imheroldman said:
It's based on the linux kernel and as such uses a linux file system which is ext 2, 3 or 4 and a swap partition.
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I think Linux support NTFS?
It would be like you speaking French with your friend even though her English is better than your French. NTFS is not open source and though the Linux implementation works fine, it is still a hack. Most distributions won't even allow normal users to write to Ntfs partitions by default . There could be legal issues for Google, but many custom roms will support it.
dabl8 said:
It would be like you speaking French with your friend even though her English is better than your French. NTFS is not open source and though the Linux implementation works fine, it is still a hack. Most distributions won't even allow normal users to write to Ntfs partitions by default . There could be legal issues for Google, but many custom roms will support it.
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Thanks dude! Now i think i got full details.
dabl8 said:
It would be like you speaking French with your friend even though her English is better than your French.
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What is this?
Ntfs and fat will be the SLOWEST filesystems on android. Ntfs kernel driver is fast but do not support write access due to patents owned by microsoft. Ntfs-3g is slow as one part has to be out of the kernel but it allows write access.
Ext 2/3/4 are the default drivers in linux kernel and are faster than ntfs.
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Is there any hack for Atrix which convert the filesystem to ext4 and without journal? So that I can get the best performance out of the hardware given
Well technically, you can mount an ext3 filesystem as ext4, therefore getting some of the enhancements from ext4. This has the advantage of allowing you to revert back to ext3 if something goes wrong. On a classic Linux install this would just require you to modify your /etc/fstab. But I'm not too familiar with Android internals though...
Considering that the kernel doesn't support ext4, that would probably be a bad idea.
What filesystem does the atrix use?
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Smallsmx3 said:
What filesystem does the atrix use?
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From what I see on mine, there are a mixture of ext2 and ext3 partitions.
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Sogarth said:
Considering that the kernel doesn't support ext4, that would probably be a bad idea.
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Oh, Android 2.2.1 kernel don't support ext4?? That kind of suprise me, thanks a lot
carfield said:
Oh, Android 2.2.1 kernel don't support ext4?? That kind of suprise me, thanks a lot
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It's not that the Android kernel doesn't support it - the config for the Atrix doesn't support it. If we had the kernel source, we could build an ext4 kernel module (for example). Of course, that wouldn't necessarily help, since the kernel would need access to the module before it could mount anything.
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To where U-HAUL this thread?
TIA
This was a real problem with earlier firmwares is it fixed now ?
dlindh said:
This was a real problem with earlier firmwares is it fixed now ?
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Just tried it. exFAT works, NTFS does not (in case of NTFS Android suggests to reformat your sdcard because it is corrupt.)
lowtraxx said:
Just tried it. exFAT works, NTFS does not (in case of NTFS Android suggests to reformat your sdcard because it is corrupt.)
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Great, thank you I will buy a sdcard now then Can you format i exFAT in the tablet or should I do that in Windows first?
dlindh said:
Great, thank you I will buy a sdcard now then Can you format i exFAT in the tablet or should I do that in Windows first?
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I dont think you can choose the FS which with android formats the sdcard. I would format it on Windows just to be safe.
I have 4.1.2 on my SGP311 and got exfat support. weird why some people claim 4.1.2 wouldn't have it.
nex86 said:
I have 4.1.2 on my SGP311 and got exfat support. weird why some people claim 4.1.2 wouldn't have it.
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It's the LTE version who is affected with this problem. Sony has confirmed it, and they promised a solution in the next update. Seems like they kept their promise. Wifi models has never been affected by this.
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Hi
I have been reading this for my Nexus 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/script-convert-rom-to-f2fs-t2731652
Can anyone tell me if
a) would it help our primes?
b) if so does anyone know how?
Looking to speed up the I/O performance...
Justin
pooblej said:
Hi
I have been reading this for my Nexus 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/script-convert-rom-to-f2fs-t2731652
Can anyone tell me if
a) would it help our primes?
b) if so does anyone know how?
Looking to speed up the I/O performance...
Justin
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Jump over to my CROMBi-kk thread for the TF300 and you will see a discussion on how to set it up for the TF201. You need a special version of TWRP for f2fs to format data to f2fs and then my rom contains the kernel to use it
I keep getting encryption unsuccessful with crombi and geass twrp 7 f2fs. Doesn't matter if sdcard is ext4 or f2fs
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trogdan said:
I keep getting encryption unsuccessful with crombi and geass twrp 7 f2fs. Doesn't matter if sdcard is ext4 or f2fs
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I'll do an update later - there are many bugs in CROMBi-KK's implementation of f2fs that I am fixing currently.
sbdags said:
I'll do an update later - there are many bugs in CROMBi-KK's implementation of f2fs that I am fixing currently.
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Great to hear it. Should data2sd work with crombi-kk with standard ext4? Do i need a standard twrp without f2fs support if I try standard ext4?
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Great to hear it. Should data2sd work with crombi-kk with standard ext4? Do i need a standard twrp without f2fs support if I try standard ext4?
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To answer my own question, yeah it worked, but I had to flash back to stock using fastboot and the asus firmware, upgrade with hairybean, installed the geass twrp, then install crombi-kk with data2sd ext4. Unfortunately, it's slow as heck with the class 10 microsd i'm using, and lots of FC. Hopefully a faster microsd with more iops will perform better....
F2FS Rom and Packs converter
Convert any ROM to work F2FS (provided it is compatible ROM).
The Roms tested and approved to this version are Liquid and Carbon. Feel free to test other (the rom of your choice) and post your results so we can increase the number of proven compatible roms and other work in order to make them work.
Convert any package to install on roms F2FS.
If you already use one F2FS rom and has difficulties installing packages (ElementalX-N5-1.04-express.zip for example) just use the converter.
The differential of this script compared to others is that this does not include kernels have changed in order to make a rom work F2FS, but try to change the original kernel of the rom in order to make it work.
How to use:
Unrar the file on your PC with Windows system;
Open the folder you created and click F2FS CONVERTOR-Nexus5.bat;
Select the desired option;
Wait for the system to prompt you paste the rom or package to convert in the subfolder extract is automatically created;
Paste the file and wait, always watching the screen waiting for new prompts.
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Thanks
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4439521"]mikaole[/URL] For the German Translations and extensive testing
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4544860"]osm0sis[/URL] For his amazing Android Image Kitchen.The cleanup.bat script is taken from his tool.
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4414170"]Peteragent5[/URL], [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1328872"]alansj[/URL] & [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=426752"]iridaki[/URL] (general method)
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=5594433"]dechronic[/URL] (f2fs original and modified batch scripts)
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4668017"]nabendu1[/URL] (modified batch scripts)
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1847399"]davidsonsjesus[/URL] (improved method and Convert pack script)
And all other beta testers !! Sorry if I forgot anyone from the list !!
Thanks for the great work. Do you have a link to more info on f2fs and the dangers of it?
Firstly I have been off the development of the tool due to time constraints , me getting back to ext4 and that I missed my favorite kernel which still doesnt support F2FS . Also improvments in /system folder is little compared to /data and thats also something which forced me leave it !! But im more than impressed with the progress you guys have made and now I am kind of tending to start the development on it soon !!
If you wish can I make a tool based on this similarly for my Nexus 4 !!
Have a gr8 day ahead man !!
PS: Looking at the credits in your OP its so much similar to my OP xD
psycho693 said:
Thanks for the great work. Do you have a link to more info on f2fs and the dangers of it?
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Here http://bit.ly/1cbQ4g1
Oh this is very interesting.:good:
NABENDU1 said:
PS: Looking at the credits in your OP its so much similar to my OP xD
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Coincidence!?
Is this the same tool that you use when you build your CarbonROM f2fs version?
socioteq said:
Is this the same tool that you use when you build your CarbonROM f2fs version?
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Only the Kernel carbon. The rest is a customization.
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Windows based script for a Linux based file system lol. Maybe time to break out bash.
NineInchNails said:
Windows based script for a Linux based file system lol. Maybe time to break out bash.
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It turns out that many users use Windows. Remember also that for the script to work there is an "emulator" Linux built into the package to know cygwin.
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I wonder if converting filesystems to f2fs on yp-g70 is possible, maybe in the same way of converting from rfs to ext4?
Has anyone tried/succeeded in using f2fs on galaxy player?
Well answering my own question.. I successfully ported f2fs alongside LVM and checking if there's any performance boost lol
Could you post some comprison bench screenshot? I'm intrestring to format some partition of my 3YP-GS1 to f2fs
coderex96 said:
Could you post some comprison bench screenshot? I'm intrestring to format some partition of my 3YP-GS1 to f2fs
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Sorry for late reply, I'm testing some new ROMs & optimizations at the moment so I'll post it later
kykint said:
Sorry for late reply, I'm testing some new ROMs & optimizations at the moment so I'll post it later
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Ok