i had my maxx flashed to pageplus by beigephone. it seems they have the knowledge/monopoly on flashing lte phones to a 3g mvno and using a non-4g sim
the only apparent catch is i am not suppose to take updates without risk of losing the flash and all programming info in the phone and then having to get the reflashed.
any way i can do this myself with the proper flashing software?
can cdma-ware do this by reading the phone and storing the flash info for later use?
the reason? saving $50/month over verizon with a current technology phone
There is a thread on Howard Forums.In the pageplus area
For flashing the bionic works with the maxx also
I used it to flash mine
After 181 update I had to redo mine
Total in investment was my time.
They do not have a corner on it
sent from my droid razr maxx on pageplus
wardcst said:
There is a thread on Howard Forums.In the pageplus area
For flashing the bionic works with the maxx also
I used it to flash mine
After 181 update I had to redo mine
Total in investment was my time.
They do not have a corner on it
sent from my droid razr maxx on pageplus
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yea read all that a while ago
too much experimenting instead of real results and most not specific to razr
i'll stick with what i got getting solid 3g with a non-verizon sim and rooted until something more easy and specific comes out for flashing. who knows what each update might mess up. instead of possibly screwing this phone up and being without it.
Beigephone most certainly does not have a monopoly on the flashing market. I flash most 4g phones, as well as sprint phones to page plus several times per week, cheaper, and with better results because I know I will see my customers again next month when they pay their bill.
Beigephone is NOT an authorized pageplus dealer, and has lost that status because of their shady business practices, ie., selling iphones for pageplus, which is absolutely not allowed.
I paid 108 for CDMA workshop, and have made my money back, and then some, off of it, charging less than beigephone, and having it done within an hour of drop off. Knowing your tech and walking into a store usually yields better results that shipping off your phone to a person you will never see.
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yea read all that a while ago
too much experimenting instead of real results and most not specific to razr
i'll stick with what i got getting solid 3g with a non-verizon sim and rooted until something more easy and specific comes out for flashing. who knows what each update might mess up. instead of possibly screwing this phone up and being without it.
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I did mine and 4 others with the info
solid 3G everything working as far as I know everything is past experimenting stage
I have my razr flashed by beigephone too. Afraid to root and play with it. Will taking a backup and flashing it restore the phone back if my experiments go hay wire? Also do i need the paid version of the cdma workshop or will the trial version work?
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I did mine and 4 others with the info
solid 3G everything working as far as I know everything is past experimenting stage
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that doesn't tell me how to keep upgrading ota and save the flash
Delete
sliced by my razr 4.0.4
Any advances since 2010
Hello!
I wanted to know if you got any further into flashing a VzW Droid Razr to PagePlus?
If you think you do a better job than Beigphone than I would like you to do it for me.
I assume you can also activate it? How much is it to have the phone flashed plus the $55/month plan added?
Could you text me your contact information to 732-539-6673?
Thank you!
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Beigephone most certainly does not have a monopoly on the flashing market. I flash most 4g phones, as well as sprint phones to page plus several times per week, cheaper, and with better results because I know I will see my customers again next month when they pay their bill.
Beigephone is NOT an authorized pageplus dealer, and has lost that status because of their shady business practices, ie., selling iphones for pageplus, which is absolutely not allowed.
I paid 108 for CDMA workshop, and have made my money back, and then some, off of it, charging less than beigephone, and having it done within an hour of drop off. Knowing your tech and walking into a store usually yields better results that shipping off your phone to a person you will never see.
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need to flash razr ics to page plus
cappii said:
Beigephone most certainly does not have a monopoly on the flashing market. I flash most 4g phones, as well as sprint phones to page plus several times per week, cheaper, and with better results because I know I will see my customers again next month when they pay their bill.
Beigephone is NOT an authorized pageplus dealer, and has lost that status because of their shady business practices, ie., selling iphones for pageplus, which is absolutely not allowed.
I paid 108 for CDMA workshop, and have made my money back, and then some, off of it, charging less than beigephone, and having it done within an hour of drop off. Knowing your tech and walking into a store usually yields better results that shipping off your phone to a person you will never see.
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Hey need you help to flash my razr need you address
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so i have alltel, my upgrate will be next month! like we all know alltel has terrible phones! i don't want to get a crappy phone for my upgrate! i love the motorola razr and read something about alltel getting this phone!!! i want to know if it's true, if anyone knows please let me know so i can wait !
Well I do believe vzw now owns alltel, so you should be able to switch to vzw Scot free. Which would give you the choice of vzw phones. Though feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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so i have alltel, my upgrate will be next month! like we all know alltel has terrible phones! i don't want to get a crappy phone for my upgrate! i love the motorola razr and read something about alltel getting this phone!!! i want to know if it's true, if anyone knows please let me know so i can wait !
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Alltel was purchased by Verizon two year ago so you will need to migrate to a verizon plan and you will be able to get the razr fine.
Thank you for the help, I'll ask alltel about changing my plan to get the motorola razr ! thanks again
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Thank you for the help, I'll ask alltel about changing my plan to get the motorola razr ! thanks again
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You won't be able to talk to Alltel they don't exist any longer they have been fully absorbed by vzw
I have the Alltell SP1200 plan, but am a Verizon customer. When you call your provider, do you get a Verizon rep? Or are you in one of the few areas where Alltell is still holding out?
Also, you may have a problem keeping your unlimited data plan if you still have an Alltell phone. Something about the plan codes. If you didn't get a verizon phone when they bought Alltell, you may have a problem now transferring your data plan over. Let me know how it works out.
right now, I have a droid razr maxx. When Verizon bought Alltell, my area got sucked up in the change and I immediately went out and got a Verizon phone. Now I got unlimited 4g data for $20 a month. It is possible.
Honestly alltel does survive in rural areas. Theres quite a few still around, not much though. Yes Verizon absorbed alltel in heavy incorporated cities but couldn't touch the rural areas, per FCC laws.
Sent from my rooted and Safe Strapped Motor DROID RAZR
i live in NC, alltel is still popular around here. You were right tho. i called alltel and it send me to verizon serrvice. I decided to go and ask, they told me alltel was not getting the razr and i could not get a verizon phone and install it on alltel!:/ so i guess i'll just wait till my contract is over and switched to verizon
Don't give up yet!!!!!!!
Since you got a verizon rep, that means your area (and you) fall under verizon. Create yourself an on line account and see if you can upgrade that way. That is the real tale.
I happened to me when I tried to go from a verizon 3G to a 4G phone. Customer service gave me one answer (that was wrong) but when I went on line, I was able to get it done.
Customer service reps typically are minimum wage and get bonuses for people that sign up for new plans. I don't know if it's accidental or on purpose, but you can't believe everything they tell you.
okay, I'll check it out and see if i can do anything! thanks for the help!
Hello,
My Rogers RAZR started acting up, so I created an RMA with Motorola and sent it in for repair (phone got hot, began to malfunction, ended up with swollen battery, probably a short-circuit). I asked TWICE on the phone to make sure that they would, in fact, be returning either my repaired phone or a new GSM RAZR. They were adamant that I would be receiving a GSM phone in return.
Well, I just got my phone back, and now it's a Verizon RAZR MAXX. I appreciate the upgrade, Motorola, but this thing is useless to me now.
Any tips? Calling them back is only getting me out-sourced technicians who have no ****ing idea what I'm talking about.
I dunno how the Motorola Customer Care system works there, but you could try taking the phone to a Motorola Service center and see if they can do something about your phone.
It's ridiculous how a phone giant such as Motorola can allow it's employees to make such idiotic mistakes.
Not to mention that Motorola customer care is virtually non-existence outside the US.
Can't u use the maxx on GSM? I may be wrong but you may have had an upgrade if u can. Nothing wrong w long lasting battery
You can but you gotta be on ICS for roaming capability
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You can but you gotta be on ICS for roaming capability
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I have at&t, not Verizon. Will it even work with the at&t SIM?
I'm extremely pissed off at how Motorola handled this, BTW. They told me to suck eggs, send the MAXX back, and accept my (broken) GSM RAZR in return. Yeah, no.
sheik124 said:
I have at&t, not Verizon. Will it even work with the at&t SIM?
I'm extremely pissed off at how Motorola handled this, BTW. They told me to suck eggs, send the MAXX back, and accept my (broken) GSM RAZR in return. Yeah, no.
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If you can't use it, just sell and by another razr. And save the money for goodies
Btw. Did you heard about metro pcs hack?
Look at this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619563&page=2
Cheers
Sent from my XT910 using Tapatalk 2
hack the NV item : (1877) RF Band Configuration) for GSM band. link
I wish I'm as lucky as you to receive the free maxx upgrade
Try typing *#*#4636#*#* and changing radio mode to gsm. May need to get the unlock code and unlock the phone first.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
sheik124 said:
Hello,
My Rogers RAZR started acting up, so I created an RMA with Motorola and sent it in for repair (phone got hot, began to malfunction, ended up with swollen battery, probably a short-circuit). I asked TWICE on the phone to make sure that they would, in fact, be returning either my repaired phone or a new GSM RAZR. They were adamant that I would be receiving a GSM phone in return.
Well, I just got my phone back, and now it's a Verizon RAZR MAXX. I appreciate the upgrade, Motorola, but this thing is useless to me now.
Any tips? Calling them back is only getting me out-sourced technicians who have no ****ing idea what I'm talking about.
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Ok I recently had a problem with Motorola losing the RAZR MAXX I sent them for a cracked screen. They "misplaced" the phone I sent them, and couldn't find it. I called Corp Headquarters here in the States, and was connected to Consumer Advocacy Group. They waived the cost of the repair. The phone was found only after talking to someone from here. I believe this is who will help you the best. Try this. Here's Motorola's info for Canada. Hope it helps.
CANADA
Motorola Mobility Canada
8133 Warden Avenue
Markham, Ontario L6G 1B3
Telephone: +1 800 461 4575
I would try this before sending the Maxx back to Moto for the broken GSM RAZR or before rooting and changing the Maxx:
Go to the Rogers store and explain the mistake to them, but leave out the fact that you originally sent in a regular RAZR unless asked. See if they will swap out the CDMA Maxx for a GSM Maxx and deal with Moto for you.
You could also probably do a straight trade for a GSM RAZR with someone else. Maybe post on Craigslist or the forums.
Or you can patch it and unlock GSM, WCDMA and HSDPA
saw many successful stoires on chinese forums with verizon driod razr and maxx
Thanks all! Had finals so I forgot about this thread. Will be trying a GSM hack and if that fails I'll be selling it for a Galaxy Nexus (eff Motorola)
Eh, the hacks look promising but it seems like it will be a while before they're working on the RAZR/MAXX or Droid 4 (they work on the Bionic). Off to Craigslist. **** you Motorola.
Errr I'll buy it
The hack (if the same) worked on numerous CDMA Maxx in China. how about i swap you my XT910?
nameite said:
Errr I'll buy it
The hack (if the same) worked on numerous CDMA Maxx in China. how about i swap you my XT910?
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I'd sold the RAZR to a friend (when it was an XT910) - when the battery short circuited I handled the RMA for him thinking it'd be relatively painless. He's since decided he wants a Galaxy Nexus instead; so now I'm tasked with either selling this for ~$426 ($399 + tax for the GNex) or trading it with someone for a GSM Nexus.
sheik124 said:
I'd sold the RAZR to a friend (when it was an XT910) - when the battery short circuited I handled the RMA for him thinking it'd be relatively painless. He's since decided he wants a Galaxy Nexus instead; so now I'm tasked with either selling this for ~$426 ($399 + tax for the GNex) or trading it with someone for a GSM Nexus.
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Well take a look on Ebay. The Maxx goes for a dump load of $$ on there. A BNIB RAZR is going for between $300 to $450 on Kijiji. I just bought one still sealed in the box for $340 (including priority shipping).
You could make some money if your friend is the patient type. Our you could pay him and sell the phone yourself for the extra $.
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Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
lazer9 said:
Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
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Its the best choice for and upgrade out right now and it is unlockable via HTC dev unlock and if u get the first hboot.(.12 I believe) you can via lazy panda
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>Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Yes, it is. One of my good friends has a Droid X, so I used it quite a bit when he was rooting it, and I've seen him using it a lot. The Evo 3D is better than the Droid X, and this phone is leaps ahead of the Evo 3D. The screen on this phone is much, much better than the screen on the Droid X, resolution and quality-wise.
>Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
If you get an EVO that hasn't been updated beyond the bootloader version 1.12, you can use LazyPanda to S-OFF it, giving you full control of the device. If the phone you get is running an updated bootloader (highly likely if you're purchasing it new), you will only be able to use the HTC Dev unlock method. This method will still allow you to flash ROMs, but you won't be able to flash radios. On top of that, if you want to flash a new kernel or a ROM that requires a different kernel (IE: Going from a Sense ROM to CM10 requires you to have an AOSP-based kernel) you'll have to use fastboot to flash it, or a program like Flash IMG GUI. If you don't do that, you won't be able to boot the phone after flashing the ROM.
If you're lucky and you can S-OFF your phone, you won't have to worry about that though.
>Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Do you mean as a Wi-Fi tether? Yes, it can. I believe there are even non-root solutions for that now. You can pay through Sprint to get it, or just use a third party app to do it.
>Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
A tip: Get a case. It doesn't have to be an Otterbox Stupid Huge 3000, but at least something that covers the phone a bit. I have this case and it's great. It doesn't add much bulk to the phone but it at least keeps it safe. I know that the Droid X is a tank of a phone that can withstand just about anything (I've seen my friend literally throw his phone at the floor and pick it up right afterwards with no problems), but this phone is a bit more delicate. You can go without a case if you want, but if you get the right case, you'll hardly even notice it.
My case is great because it helps me hold the phone. It's so thin and tall that it's a bit slippery in your hand. The case solves that problem.
Another tip, is to be prepared for a watered down multitasking experience if you keep your phone stock or run Sense ROMs. I've seen mentions of developers making progress on improving it, but HTC tweaked the multitasking on this phone to be very aggressive, which causes apps to close themselves after a while. If you plan to run AOSP ROMs then you won't have to worry about that, and I'm sure the devs will fix it on Sense ROMs soon enoug.
Thanks to both posters for the added info. Looking into the process and trying to get "hooked up" to somehow get the BS activation fees waived of $36 which a Buddy of mine was able to pull off, although he went with the I-phone (blah) and another thing he said in order to get the insurance on the phone, had to pay an up front fee of $100 which covers the I-phone for life. Is this how sprint handles insurance on the Android Evo or is there another option similiar to what I'm paying Verizon with the extra $6 a month for Assuron or whatever??
Thanks again for all the help!
SoraX64 said:
>..............>Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
If you get an EVO that hasn't been updated beyond the bootloader version 1.12, you can use LazyPanda to S-OFF it, giving you full control of the device. If the phone you get is running an updated bootloader (highly likely if you're purchasing it new), you will only be able to use the HTC Dev unlock method. This method will still allow you to flash ROMs, but you won't be able to flash radios. On top of that, if you want to flash a new kernel or a ROM that requires a different kernel (IE: Going from a Sense ROM to CM10 requires you to have an AOSP-based kernel) you'll have to use fastboot to flash it, or a program like Flash IMG GUI. If you don't do that, you won't be able to boot the phone after flashing the ROM.
If you're lucky and you can S-OFF your phone, you won't have to worry about that though...............
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Ok, Went for it and came home with the HTC EVO 4G LTE which I quickly rooted/S-Off'd / Unlocked with LazyPanda succesfully and installed TWRP. Restored all my apps with TIBU! YaY! :laugh:
Need a recommendation for the best clean, battery quality, improvement over stock ROM out there so I can proceed into making this sucker as sweet as my Droid X once was. Hell, I ran that BootManager or whatever it's called on it and had like 7 Roms installed at once so I'm really into this tweaking and modding scene and just need some more tips / pointers on where to proceed with it at this point.
I realize I've voided my warranty, I'm sure. Not really a concern. They talked me into that $11 per month no hassle replacement insurance bull**** with a deductible of course so I'm ready to rock n roll! :victory:
lazer9 said:
............Need a recommendation for the best clean, battery quality, improvement over stock ROM out there so I can proceed into making this sucker as sweet as my Droid X once was..........
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*bump* Anyone
Flexs stock with goodies, viper 4g and meanrom are my recommendations.
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mrlakadaddy said:
Flexs stock with goodies, viper 4g and meanrom are my recommendations.
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Thanks.
I did find and flash via TWRP the: Radio 1.12.11.0809 (Only) from Jewels.
Now I'm wondering if I need this file instead? ---> PJ75IMG_Jewel_firmware_2.13.651.1.zip from his site.
Any bearing on the above mentioned ROMS and the pros/cons on doing this.
On a side note: I'm at my workplace and although it shows in "Excellent" via the Sprint coverage map, I'm stuck on roaming....
Thanks for all your help!
Only if its the one that doesn't contain kernel, recovery or h-boot
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The newest stock with goodies is amazing to say the lease the best multitasking Rom I've used of this phone
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The newest stock with goodies is amazing to say the lease the best multitasking Rom I've used of this phone
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Thanks! I currently had already went with the latest "meanrom" per other poster above. I did update all my kernal/radio ect... also as per discussion in the meanrom thread. All seems to be going well so far other than the dam "Roaming" triangle showing constantly at my workplace which is supposed to be dead center within and "Excellent" Sprint coverage area. Otherwise, I'm a little put out that I only get one bar in my home - I'm supposed to be on the fringe of a "Good" to "Fair" area as per the coverage map there. Time will tell. The rep did offer me something called AirAve that assists weak connections via my broadband cable internet connection as a possible option after 60 days of ****ty service if so required. I'm also signed up for their "Home Connect" as I didn't have a home # any longer and had just relied on my Verizon Wireless Droid X for all my calls. As my understanding this just adds $20 per month for the line charge with unlimited in/outbout calling AND gave me $100 off my EVO since I ended up with a total of 3 lines of service (add my girlfriend's LGE Rezound or whatever....)
Whew! This is getting to be quite the chore getting switched over. So far my impressions. Better phone in the EVO vs Droid X but ****tier / sporadic coverage. :silly:
Now that they have access to their 800mhz block they can kick up the vision roll out which is better for everyone
lazer9 said:
Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
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I currently have the HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I use the internet like there is no tomorrow probably 10-20gb a week is there anyway to upgrade without losing unlimited cause I was gonna purchase the HTC phablet "dlx" in a couple months and I really would not like to lose my unlimited data or I might consider switching to sprint
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Im gonna go ahead and advertise my guide lol it has a description and explanation for a ton of stuff. Helps you get a good grasp. If there's something you want to know and its not there ask, it helps me to stay somewhat current
jonah1234 said:
I currently have the HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I use the internet like there is no tomorrow probably 10-20gb a week is there anyway to upgrade without losing unlimited cause I was gonna purchase the HTC phablet "dlx" in a couple months and I really would not like to lose my unlimited data or I might consider switching to sprint
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If you are talking about an option to upgrade and stay on Verizon Unlimited, the answer is no. The sole and main reason I left them.
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Yes, to om4: Please do post your guide right here in my thread if you would. I am very interested in any and all information regarding SPRINT and what to expect and what not to expect. I have 14 days to piss with this until I'm locked in as I'm told.
I have no idea what the 800mhz block is and if it would even make it to my area? I live in Western PA - Hermitage 16148 to be exact and work in New Castle PA, 16105 if that is helpful to anything and knowledge of the 800mhz block...
I've already been told that 4G is not even on the landscape (map) currently for any of my area.
The 800mhz spectrum is what Verizon currently uses it provides better coverage. Sprint has 800mhz spectrum as well but its currently being used by nextel. Sprint has been preparing to make the switch to use the 800mhz spectrum for some time. It provides better signal penetration. My guide is in the thread named don't panic, it pertains to android rather then sprint lol
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The 800mhz spectrum is what Verizon currently uses it provides better coverage. Sprint has 800mhz spectrum as well but its currently being used by nextel. Sprint has been preparing to make the switch to use the 800mhz spectrum for some time. It provides better signal penetration. My guide is in the thread named don't panic, it pertains to android rather then sprint lol
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Thanks since I have used up my 8 Thanks for the day I guess in my barking in the MeanRom thread... :silly:
I wonder when this rollout to the 800mhz will take place. The only thing my local rep mentioned was something about two new towers going up between 4 to 8 miles from my residence in the coming future.
I think its part of the vision roll out but I'm not sure, another member posted instructions to force the lte to use the 800mhz spectrum and it worked for a few people but the majority who tried it got stuck roaming on Verizon
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I think its part of the vision roll out but I'm not sure, another member posted instructions to force the lte to use the 800mhz spectrum and it worked for a few people but the majority who tried it got stuck roaming on Verizon
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Yikes! Was that reversable for those people and where are the instructions in case I get brave? :cyclops:
I wouldnt recommend it, it broke roaming for a lot of people and it took a bit of tinkering before someone found a fix. I dont remember what it was either. Something in build.prop
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
Verizon Wireless send new A-Key and AAA Password to combat flashing
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
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Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
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And your whole point is? This poor individual is trying to find some help and apparently he is not getting anything. Instead you should write a guide on how to extract more data from the Gusto in order to receive the new keys properly. It has happened to me before but speed increased after unlocking the phone. I was on the 35/plan before and it gave me the same error, it lasts for about 2 days and then error 89 shows up, sometimes a day, that was before. I'm unsure why they keep doing this and why isn't the flashed phone getting the new key automatically like the Gusto 2. There must be a way to make this work.
I'm still trying to figure out why Verizon is cracking down on flashed phones when that's clearly more customers.
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Sprint code
I gota the error 16 code when I obtained s-off. Everything worked but text an call it took me to sprint. I just told the lady I did a hard reset to clear all my data. She said ok you r all set now have a good day. RT away text starting coming thru. I did read the due security with radio firmware. Someone else said it's just a way to log users. Idk myself I due know she ask no questions She already knew why I was calling.
so..mmm, where is the easy fix???
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What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
hope this helps.
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i have a vzw 3g phone wich i used to pull the data settings and i have the gusto in its package.
so what can I do... how does the easy fix works??
error 8998 unknown fix!
I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
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I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
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Verizon changed again the passwords.... thanks to my fascinate i got everything again... but the flash doesnt work anymore with my d710 sprint phone... looks like verizon added more security..
im stuck using my old i500...
susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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I'm on the same boot, i keep getting error 89 and my phone is on roaming, unfortunately i don't have the donor
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susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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TechSoft said:
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
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that's not what the OP asked
I just got my new Nexus 5, will be sad to say goodbye to the Rezound and this community. I didn't say much here, but I did read these forums almost daily.
My question is this. I've been in a dispute with VZW over what I owe them and have been having problems getting some things removed from my bill that never should have been there. So I decided that VZW is getting fired now that my contract has ended. Since I'm still disputing the billing, I know my phone can't be sold cleanly. So I was wondering if there is any value to it for use on a GMS network maybe.
The thing is in perfect condition, it's been kept in an Otterbox since day 1. I'll be selling it with the Otterbox defender, which is only a few months old, they sent me a brand new one for free when my old one had a charging port flap tear off. I also am throwing in 3 of the ExtMicro USB cables that are HTC OEM cables. You'd never know the phone was 2 years old looking at it.
Other things of note, it's S-Off, has all the latest radios, etc. I followed REV3NT3CH's guide How to Downgrade, Factory Restore, and fully update the Rezound so it should have everything current.
Not trying to sell it in here, I know it's against the rules so don't reply in here if you are interested, I'll probably list it on ebay based on what I hear from you guys. I just want to know if it's worth listing based on having the bad esn, the condition, being fully upgraded and S-Off and including the Otterbox and 3 ExtMicro usb cables.
Thanks
If you do sell it obviously its worth is decreased than that of a normal clean ESN rezound.... I can't say if gsm will still work or not but there are many uses with WiFi only options
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FWIW my 2-year Rezound contract with Verizon only made it to six months (maybe one or two more) before my place of employment closed down. I couldn't pay my bill any longer and the account now sits with a collection agency. For the longest time I did texts and calls using Google Voice and GrooVe IP on WiFi. However, I am currently using a ST AT&T SIM from a StraightTalk BYOP starter kit successfully. I have not attempted to register it on the ST CDMA plan so no input on that.
If you don't test it with a SIM, buyer should be made aware the phone may not work anyhow due to ESN... and even if it does get on GSM, data speeds on US carriers are restricted to slow 2G EDGE without advanced hacks (that still only yield 3G in extremely strong signal spots atm).
I've decided to wait until I get my billing dispute worked out.
I did have one question, I have my old Droid X sitting in a drawer, it works fine, but has some dead spots on the screen. If I activate that phone on the line my Rezound is currently assigned to, will that free the Rezound from my Verizon account so I could sell it, and tie my Droid X back to the account?
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I've decided to wait until I get my billing dispute worked out.
I did have one question, I have my old Droid X sitting in a drawer, it works fine, but has some dead spots on the screen. If I activate that phone on the line my Rezound is currently assigned to, will that free the Rezound from my Verizon account so I could sell it, and tie my Droid X back to the account?
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Yes, it should... that being said, if you are having a billing dispute with Verizon they may not be willing to change it, since this would require a plan change from a 4G plan to a 3G plan. You would have to call customer service and see.