i want to flash my evo 3d to use with a virgin mobile account since there is a version of the evo 3d that is on virgin is there a easy way to flash this and get it done please advise.
Mech8 said:
i want to flash my evo 3d to use with a virgin mobile account since there is a version of the evo 3d that is on virgin is there a easy way to flash this and get it done please advise.
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Are you unlocked through htcdev or revolutionary? If so, the leaked ICS ROM is based off the Virgin Mobile release, so you could try flashing that and see if that works for you. I am a Sprint customer and am grasping at straws, so maybe someone on Virgin Mobile would have more info for you.
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Are you unlocked through htcdev or revolutionary? If so, the leaked ICS ROM is based off the Virgin Mobile release, so you could try flashing that and see if that works for you. I am a Sprint customer and am grasping at straws, so maybe someone on Virgin Mobile would have more info for you.
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Htcdev I figured I could use that but didn't know if it would fix the radios. I'm also a Sprint customer just tryin to get this flashed for a friend. Hope someone can help.
I also want to know if it's possible to use an Evo 3D on VM. From what I've read, sounds like the VM firmware has caused a lot of people a lot of headaches. My Evo 3D has S-Off. I'm not a total newb at all this stuff, but I'm also fuzzy on a lot of stuff too. Any ideas guys? Can Evo 3D be used on VM?
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I also want to know if it's possible to use an Evo 3D on VM. From what I've read, sounds like the VM firmware has caused a lot of people a lot of headaches. My Evo 3D has S-Off. I'm not a total newb at all this stuff, but I'm also fuzzy on a lot of stuff too. Any ideas guys? Can Evo 3D be used on VM?
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The 3d is coming out/ is out for VM, so the answer is yes. I could be wrong, but I think the VM firmware caused problems for Sprint customers because they are not VM customers. The phone was acting like a VM phone instead of a Sprint one. Seeing as the leak was written by HTC for VM phones, it should work to set up your 3d for VM. But, I'm a Sprint customer and have not tried it myself, so YMMV.
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The 3d is coming out/ is out for VM, so the answer is yes. I could be wrong, but I think the VM firmware caused problems for Sprint customers because they are not VM customers. The phone was acting like a VM phone instead of a Sprint one. Seeing as the leak was written by HTC for VM phones, it should work to set up your 3d for VM. But, I'm a Sprint customer and have not tried it myself, so YMMV.
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That is my understanding as well, being the VM firmware causing issues for Sprint.
However, because we do not have GSM phones using SIM cards, we can't simply unlock our phones. CDMA phones have to be flashed to another networks (i.e. Metro PCS, Cricket, Boost, etc.).
This thread is an example to flash to Metro PCS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1303507&highlight=cricket
So, since there is a process to flashing, I think it's a bit more involved than just simply flashing firmware.
I called VM to see if they would just let me transfer my phone over as my contract is just about up with Sprint (and VM is owned by Sprint). They said no. I called Boost Mobile and asked if I could use my phone on their network and the guy basically said maybe. He said we could try, but he wasn't 100% certain. It would be nice to have the carrier actually authorize it...
I've seen those flashing guides and they seem pretty intense. I'm willing to do the work if it will work out, but I'd prefer VM. Anyone seen a flashing guide for VM? Anyone here use boost?
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That is my understanding as well, being the VM firmware causing issues for Sprint.
However, because we do not have GSM phones using SIM cards, we can't simply unlock our phones. CDMA phones have to be flashed to another networks (i.e. Metro PCS, Cricket, Boost, etc.).
This thread is an example to flash to Metro PCS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1303507&highlight=cricket
So, since there is a process to flashing, I think it's a bit more involved than just simply flashing firmware.
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From my cursory skimming of that thread, it appears to be how to get a Sprint Rom to work on Metro. Since the ICS leak is VM based, I would think it would work out of the box with VM as long as it has not been Sprint-ified by a dev. Especially the most recent leak.
Maybe one of the more knowledgeable devs would know for certain.
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From my cursory skimming of that thread, it appears to be how to get a Sprint Rom to work on Metro. Since the ICS leak is VM based, I would think it would work out of the box with VM as long as it has not been Sprint-ified by a dev. Especially the most recent leak.
Maybe one of the more knowledgeable devs would know for certain.
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So your theory is that an Evo 3D with the VM ICS leak could be activated on VM?
No, you have to do some "illegal" acts to get a sprint evo 3d on vm. So, there is no world where flashing a rom will make it available on another network.
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No, you have to do some "illegal" acts to get a sprint evo 3d on vm. So, there is no world where flashing a rom will make it available on another network.
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What are these "illegal" acts that would allow me to use the phone I payed for with phone service I also paid for?
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What are these "illegal" acts that would allow me to use the phone I payed for with phone service I also paid for?
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Changing esn is illegal. And that's what you have to do with vm. No matter how you look at it, it is.
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ESN changing is ILLEGAL
ESN changing is illegal in most countries, and not allowed on XDA to be discussed on how to do it. Thanks.
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I was wondering if anyone knows how to put straight talk on a cdma android phone. Preferably a Droid Eris. Please any knowledge? Let this be a general question.
Not possible. Go to Howardforums.com and check out the straight talk forums. You need to use a straight talk phone. You might want to check out page plus cellular, they offer bring your own device on verizons network.
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Boost mobile isn't CDMA or GSM
It's IDEN (I think that's the acronym).
Wont work.
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Boost mobile isn't CDMA or GSM
It's IDEN (I think that's the acronym).
Wont work.
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Wrong. Your information is out of date pko. Boost was bought out by Sprint a while back and uses both IDEN and CDMA. The CDMA part is now the actual Sprint network so from what I have heard on various other forums you can get any Sprint phone and run it on Sprint prepaid (Boost). They have an unlimited everything plan for $60/mo. Or better yet you can get a Sprint 450 minute plan for less and get unlimited texting and data I believe.
Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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I kind of have an idea but please email me the rouht u took
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just wondering.
if any one sucessfully "flashed" a vzw or spcs phone over to straight talk
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just wondering.
if any one sucessfully "flashed" a vzw or spcs phone over to straight talk
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I'm waiting for this to happen too.
Straight talk is just Verizon.
Just really cheap.
it won't happen. I have heard Straight-talk has an esn white-list of phones sold for Straight-talk. Phones not on the list can't access the network, even if the same model as a phone they sell. But if you are near wifi most of your day, page plus is a better deal anyway.
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it won't happen. I have heard Straight-talk has an esn white-list of phones sold for Straight-talk. Phones not on the list can't access the network, even if the same model as a phone they sell. But if you are near wifi most of your day, page plus is a better deal anyway.
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other than esn hacking then, this is impossible.
Darn.
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Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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You are contributing to this problem and should go on your way.
Anyway who wants to be pm'd to share their methods is either selling something, spamming people, or simply a selfish person who has no business on a community forum.
not hackin more like clonin/donor
if i got a straight talk phone already. cant i just have that one as a donor for my evo 3d or my eris htc. i dont think im hacking since i own both evo3d and eris htc both with clean esn... and the straight talk one i own it to and its clean... is it more like modifying...right???????
if people want an Eris like phone on straight talk, just get the Samsung. Its better than the Eris anyway. Plus no hacking...
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if i got a straight talk phone already. cant i just have that one as a donor for my evo 3d or my eris htc. i dont think im hacking since i own both evo3d and eris htc both with clean esn... and the straight talk one i own it to and its clean... is it more like modifying...right???????
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You need a ST donor phone, yeah, but you should never turn it on or activate it, just need it for the MEID. if you already activated it you're SOL, need a new donor.
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Let me start off with saying, I have been screwed over by VZW far too many times to allow them to continue pliaging my pockets. I'm currently working on converting my Verizon (CDMA) Smart phones (HTC Incredible; 1st Gen Android; iPhone 4) over to straight talk.
Now for all you nay sayers, who, for the longest time have made claims that it can not be done; well I tell you it can. I know it's a cliche, but as people have said before, "where there's a will, there is a way!"
This will involve a very intimate understanding of all the mobile networks there are, and, the different networks Straight Talk uses. For anyone who is currently pondering the question "Can I flash/spoof, or otherwise get an AT&T phone on a CDMA network?" The answer is and always will be NO! This will never change. The only exception to the rule is the iPhone4s. This is due in part, to the fact the iPhone 4s was originally designed to be a world phone. This means that the iPhone 4s has the capabilities to switch to CDMA from GSM and vice versa.
If Straight Talk does have a white list of ESNs that have acess to the network, then that would be a tiny problem. I say tiny problem because it can be overcome. This comes down to legalities though. In order to get any CDMA phone (to include verizon phones) onto the straight talk network, you will first have to buy a Straight Talk (CDMA) smart phone. Next you'll have to unlock your current Verizon phone (or any other CDMA network phone, i.e. Sprint, Boost, etc.) from the current carrier. Then you'll need to spoof your IMEI and ESN to what ever your current Straight Talk phone's IMEI/ESN is. You should be able to find some software to assist with this, by doing a google search (specific site will follow in my next thread.
Spoofing both the IMEI and ESN are very important, as the ESN is unique to the IMEI. Essentially, you are fooling the network into thinking that the phone accessing the network is the one you bought from Straight Talk. Another reason for this is so that VZW never catches the on to what you're doing, considering they monitor the data usage of each phone on thier network. If they notice an IMEI from the phone previously on thier network, now with a new carrier who offers cheaper services, they will cut and block you from their network.
(The following thread is a concept in progress. If anyone else thinks they have another/easier way to do it, please feel free to comment)
All questions are welcome, however, if you lack a basic understanding of the cellular technology or the information flow through the mobile networks, I will probably ignore your question. (SO GOOGLE IT!)
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Check this out. Search can be your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210240&highlight=straight+talk
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I know this is old but just reading around thought id post, i just bought an atrix 2 online an at/t phone and got straight talk last week, and all you need is a GSM phone on bands 850 and 1900 mhz thru T-mobile at/t or unlocked and your good, they dont do cdma because it gets complicated if you use anyhing then the phones they sell. But i can report on my "4g'' phone which is HSPA+ i get 8mbp/s up and 2 mbp/s down in my area, so great service!
i'd suggest page plus - its also on the verizon network... nothing special needed, just a clean esn eris - call pageplus and they'll activate you for free, free $2 to get you started and then all you do is buy pins to refill service.
also, you can load cricket prl and some more to get cricket working...
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I know this is old but just reading around thought id post, i just bought an atrix 2 online an at/t phone and got straight talk last week, and all you need is a GSM phone on bands 850 and 1900 mhz thru T-mobile at/t or unlocked and your good, they dont do cdma because it gets complicated if you use anyhing then the phones they sell. But i can report on my "4g'' phone which is HSPA+ i get 8mbp/s up and 2 mbp/s down in my area, so great service!
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Hello xda. this is my first post so I apologize in advance.
I spent about 30 min reading post trying to find one to match and did not find anything.
I have a HTC Evo 3D that I want to put on to boost mobile. I'm wondering if any has herd of this working yet. or are we all playing the waiting game?
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I will not be doing this my self. I know some who says they can. I just wanted to be sure that its possible before I pay and put a small risk into it. the esn is clean as well
any thing with post i should know is welcome and I will be more than happy to fix it as soon i know about it
i just got one myself clean esn and i can find readable addresses ??? pklease advise
Have you asked the company its self? Boost is a Sprint company and uses CDMA. If they say no then I don't know if the temp root would allow the carrier unlock or you may be able to use QPST and program it.
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Have you asked the company its self? Boost is a Sprint company and uses CDMA. If they say no then I don't know if the temp root would allow the carrier unlock or you may be able to use QPST and program it.
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Thanks for.the reply but boost will not activate this phone I have to have the readable addresses so I can do my thing if anyone knows please addvise thanks
You cannot "flash" a Sprint android device to boost. What you are asking to do is illegally clone a esn/meid of a boost mobile phone and illegally change the esn/meid of the ego 3d to that of the boost phone... This is a very gray area you are treading at best
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I did this for someone last year with their EVO. It's technically illegal, due to cloning, but the info is out there. Good luck.
Have u tried to have them activate the esn WITHOUT telling them its not a boost phone? Do u have cricket in your area? Theres no need to clone the esn unless boost refuses to accept esn's of non boost phones
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You cannot "flash" a Sprint android device to boost. What you are asking to do is illegally clone a esn/meid of a boost mobile phone and illegally change the esn/meid of the ego 3d to that of the boost phone... This is a very gray area you are treading at best
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IM NOT THE ONLY ONE TREADING but thanks for the heads-up just trying to my thing thats all this is a non-profit venture aka solo=mine thanks to all and its only a matter of time
ya id rather pay sprints monthly bill than break the law... (funny how id rather break the law then pay for music tho )
the friend i talked to said he has done it before (with the 3d), and he just called sprint up not boost. i know this person has tech know how and i trust him about 95%
but there is that little voice inside my head says its easy to run with my phone....
$25 for 45 a month with out breaking the law and risk losing my phone
or~ $90 and put it on sprint....
does this sound worth the risk to you guys?
also my shift key is "broke-ish" am going to have a grammar lecture if i get a little lazy?
its a minor annoyance to get it to work and just don't have time to really fix it atm
I went with my mom to MetroPCS and the dude there had an OG Evo 4g flashed to MetroPCS. He claimed he still had 4g but that's total bull****.
I had my og evo on metropcs....i dont know how true it is that its illegalbecause metropcs itself will flash almost anycdma phone to work on their network.
To the last poster, that dude was full of bs. The evo has internet/data, mms, text, voice. No 4g is possible because metropcs has lte and evo is wimax.
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I'm awere its illegal to clone an esn. but I have an old iden phone branded with nexttel on boost, both the IMEI and SIM card showed on the account and iv herd of this working with cdma as well no cloning.
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I'm awere its illegam to clone an esn. but I have an old iden phone branded with nexttel on boost, both the IMEI and SIM card showed on the account and iv herd of this working with cdma as well no cloning.
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na iden wont work it has to be CDMA!
readable ranges anyone ? hope im not pissing anyone off just been trying for days now and it just bumps me out and re-boots
Has anyone got their 3d on boost yet?
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Has anyone got their 3d on boost yet?
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If I am not mistaken it should be no different than putting a OG Evo on Boost since all they are doing is changing your ESN to a workable Boost Mobile CDMA ESN -higher end phone. Make sure you check what phone they are using to change your phone to Boost. A crap phone gives you crap internet connection.
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I went with my mom to MetroPCS and the dude there had an OG Evo 4g flashed to MetroPCS. He claimed he still had 4g but that's total bull****.
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why you say hes bull**** it's very much possible, illegal yes but here's how one will get 4g
get a working 4g phone (one that is active with sprint) and backup wimax keys and copy the wimax mac address
then take the nonworking phone in his case metro one and restore the good wimax keys to it; then change the mac address to the good one
so.. before you call people full of **** do homework
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now about the 3d; problem is it has a mechanism that detects memory reads / scans and then locks the memory from being read thus the reason you have no readable memory scans
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why you say hes bull**** it's very much possible, illegal yes but here's how one will get 4g
get a working 4g phone (one that is active with sprint) and backup wimax keys and copy the wimax mac address
then take the nonworking phone in his case metro one and restore the good wimax keys to it; then change the mac address to the good one
so.. before you call people full of **** do homework
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Wouldn't that require someone to still be paying a sprint bill to remain active on the 4g? Maybe I missed something.
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Wouldn't that require someone to still be paying a sprint bill to remain active on the 4g? Maybe I missed something.
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yes you are correct it will still require someone to pay sprint or clearwire
but if you have a family member who has and 4g account you could use theirs and what most people don't know is that the 4g(data) can be used by both parties at the same time not esn/meid thats different subject
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na iden wont work it has to be CDMA!
readable ranges anyone ? hope im not pissing anyone off just been trying for days now and it just bumps me out and re-boots
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have you tried evo shift readeable addresses?
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If I am not mistaken it should be no different than putting a OG Evo on Boost since all they are doing is changing your ESN to a workable Boost Mobile CDMA ESN -higher end phone. Make sure you check what phone they are using to change your phone to Boost. A crap phone gives you crap internet connection.
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if it was that easy he wouldn't be asking bro! it's not as simple as you paint it! i can flash any android to boost with fully 3g and 4g using clearwire if anyone that is attempting to falsh the evo 3d and has any progress let me know i'll like to s hare my knowledge
First of all, let me say that I'm not trying to break any laws here. I am simply curious about some technical aspects.
Q: What kind of tweaks would be involved to make a CDMA phone from one carrier work with another CMDA carrier? E.G., A droid running on Sprint or an EVO on Virgin Mobile.
I started researching about this, but I can hardly find any info. Are unlocked phones not that popular anymore or do carriers just not support them?
From what I gathered, one would have to change PRLs, install new phone,telephony, and mms APKs, and probably change MEID/ ESN and possibly flash new radios and have an unlocked phone of course.
How close am I here?
TY in advance.
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First of all, let me say that I'm not trying to break any laws here. I am simply curious about some technical aspects.
Q: What kind of tweaks would be involved to make a CDMA phone from one carrier work with another CMDA carrier? E.G., A droid running on Sprint or an EVO on Virgin Mobile.
I started researching about this, but I can hardly find any info. Are unlocked phones not that popular anymore or do carriers just not support them?
From what I gathered, one would have to change PRLs, install new phone,telephony, and mms APKs, and probably change MEID/ ESN and possibly flash new radios and have an unlocked phone of course.
How close am I here?
TY in advance.
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Unlocked phones are very popular but CDMA phones are not when it comes to unlocking. Ultimately you have to get the company to agreebto add the phone to its network which it has the right to refuse lt. You would need to change the ESN which is not legal anywhere and why you won't find the info on XDA.
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Ok, this thread was closed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660357 before anything "illegal" could be discussed.
However, it does raise questions for me and possibly for others and while the power of Google is there, I'd like to ask here for clarification and educational purposes.
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT get my thread closed by explaining how to change ESN. It has been made VERY clear that is illegal and against XDA.
However, this is the question: What is ESN and why exactly is it illegal to change it?
It was brought up in the aforementioned thread that if an Evo 3D is to be put on VM, the ESN would have to be changed.
That also brings up another question: Does the ESN have to be changed to be flashed to other carriers (Metro PCS, Cricket, Boost, etc)? If so, why are there guides on how to flash over.
Again, I'm curious about this, which is something I don't know anything about. And, again, please DO NOT get this thread closed by posting instructions on how to change ESN.
Thanks in advance for non-flaming assistance.
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Ok, this thread was closed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660357 before anything "illegal" could be discussed.
However, it does raise questions for me and possibly for others and while the power of Google is there, I'd like to ask here for clarification and educational purposes.
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT get my thread closed by explaining how to change ESN. It has been made VERY clear that is illegal and against XDA.
However, this is the question: What is ESN and why exactly is it illegal to change it?
It was brought up in the aforementioned thread that if an Evo 3D is to be put on VM, the ESN would have to be changed.
That also brings up another question: Does the ESN have to be changed to be flashed to other carriers (Metro PCS, Cricket, Boost, etc)? If so, why are there guides on how to flash over.
Again, I'm curious about this, which is something I don't know anything about. And, again, please DO NOT get this thread closed by posting instructions on how to change ESN.
Thanks in advance for non-flaming assistance.
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Although it is easy to search and find out roughly how to flash a phone to a different carrier, here's the basics.
You have to have a donor phone from the carrier you want. You clone that ESN of the donor to the new phone. As far as the new carrier is concerned, your phone will appear as the donor phone. Although I believe it is illegal to clone ESNs, it seems to be a bit of a grey area. This is because more than likely, you go buy or get a cheap boost/cricket/or other carrier phone to use as the donor and therefore you actually own that phone. It's like copying an old CD to a new burned one when it is too scratched up to play in a player to me. You own the original CD and just want to transfer it to a new CD to keep using it for your own purposes.
+1 to all these questions, especially why flashing for VM would be any different than Metro, etc. I was discussing my conjecture that using the 3d on VM would be a simple matter of finding a compatible Rom with proper radios (like the VM ics leak) and doing a few minor tweaks. Then the ESN thing was brought up and thread closed.
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ESN is electronic serial number and is used to identify each device. Its something like IMEI for CDMA phones. Then, if some people has lost the phone you can report the ESN and no one can use it. But if you change it to another number you can use as long as you want. That's the main reason it is illegal.And not, you don't need to change ESN if you want to change the carrier. At least I didn't see the need. I usually buy phones from sprint and then I flash in Mexico to iusacell and the ESN is never changed.
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Although it is easy to search and find out roughly how to flash a phone to a different carrier, here's the basics.
You have to have a donor phone from the carrier you want. You clone that ESN of the donor to the new phone. As far as the new carrier is concerned, your phone will appear as the donor phone. Although I believe it is illegal to clone ESNs, it seems to be a bit of a grey area. This is because more than likely, you go buy or get a cheap boost/cricket/or other carrier phone to use as the donor and therefore you actually own that phone. It's like copying an old CD to a new burned one when it is too scratched up to play in a player to me. You own the original CD and just want to transfer it to a new CD to keep using it for your own purposes.
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Very good explanation. Yes, I know searching it is a possibility, however, I didn't see anything that jumped out at me on this Q & A forum and figured others are curious and should now about this stuff. There are some lines that are ridiculous, but, there are some that should not be crossed and this sounds like one.
Perfect analogy with the CD burning.
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+1 to all these questions, especially why flashing for VM would be any different than Metro, etc. I was discussing my conjecture that using the 3d on VM would be a simple matter of finding a compatible Rom with proper radios (like the VM ics leak) and doing a few minor tweaks. Then the ESN thing was brought up and thread closed.
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Ditto, ditto, ditto.
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ESN is electronic serial number and is used to identify each device. Its something like IMEI for CDMA phones. Then, if some people has lost the phone you can report the ESN and no one can use it. But if you change it to another number you can use as long as you want. That's the main reason it is illegal.And not, you don't need to change ESN if you want to change the carrier. At least I didn't see the need. I usually buy phones from sprint and then I flash in Mexico to iusacell and the ESN is never changed.
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So, CDMA phones have IMEI and GSM phones have ESN?
Also, it was mentioned the ESN would have to be changed to go to VM. Why would that be if the ESN doesn't have to be changed to be flashed to other CDMA networks?
saboxerman said:
Very good explanation. Yes, I know searching it is a possibility, however, I didn't see anything that jumped out at me on this Q & A forum and figured others are curious and should now about this stuff. There are some lines that are ridiculous, but, there are some that should not be crossed and this sounds like one.
Perfect analogy with the CD burning.
Ditto, ditto, ditto.
So, CDMA phones have IMEI and GSM phones have ESN?
Also, it was mentioned the ESN would have to be changed to go to VM. Why would that be if the ESN doesn't have to be changed to be flashed to other CDMA networks?
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Yes, CDMA phones have an Electronic Serial Number (ESN) and GSM phones have a International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI). My understanding is that if you want to use an EVO 3D on Cricket say, you have to do the donor phone swarp because they don't use the EVO 3D on thier network.
raptoro07 said:
Yes, CDMA phones have an Electronic Serial Number (ESN) and GSM phones have a International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI). My understanding is that if you want to use an EVO 3D on Cricket say, you have to do the donor phone swarp because they don't use the EVO 3D on thier network.
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Is that specific to Cricket?
Sorry for so many questions, but, I'd like to have a clear understanding for myself and those reading.
Metro PCS doesn't use the Evo 3D on their network, however, there are instructions on flashing the phone to their network. Is that illegal? If so, how is that thread still up in the Development forum?
saboxerman said:
Is that specific to Cricket?
Sorry for so many questions, but, I'd like to have a clear understanding for myself and those reading.
Metro PCS doesn't use the Evo 3D on their network, however, there are instructions on flashing the phone to their network. Is that illegal? If so, how is that thread still up in the Development forum?
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So after some searching and watching some videos on youtube, you may not have to change the ESN to flash to a different carrier.
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So after some searching and watching some videos on youtube, you may not have to change the ESN to flash to a different carrier.
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Yeah...I can't hit YouTube at work. They have it blocked.
So, the question now is whether or not it is true the ESN has to be changed for VM. If so, why would it have to be changed?
saboxerman said:
Yeah...I can't hit YouTube at work. They have it blocked.
So, the question now is whether or not it is true the ESN has to be changed for VM. If so, why would it have to be changed?
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Okay, more info after more seraching.
You do not need to change the ESN (the process using a Donor phone) if the carrier you are attempting to use will accept your ESN. However, from what I have read, Virgin Mobile will only accept the ESN from a phone they have sold. Some carriers will allow ESNs on their network. In order to get a phone onto VM, you will have to get a donor and change the ESN (mentioned before as ILLEGAL). You could try flashing it, there are some guides out there to VM, but may not be able to activate without changing the ESN (Again ILLEGAL).
Ok, so lets sum it up. Most CDMA carriers only allow phones on their network that they themselves sold. Meaning it HAS to be branded by them. I.E. Sprint, VM, Boost (depends on who you talk to), Verizon, and a few others. On the other hand some carriers allow any ESN to be put on their network.
And that is where it lies. Because VM will not add ANY ESN to their database that they didn't sell. But for say like Cricket, they will allow any CDMA phone to their network. Thats why for Cricket all you have to do is get your data profile setup correctly and get the ESN registered with them.
But for VM, you have to change ESN's which in fact in black and white is illegal. There is no grey area. If you modify an ESN in any way shape or form you are breaking the law.
Cool, can we close this thread now?
I think that sums up everything and now I have a very clear picture of what the deal is.
Thank you to everyone who contributed to the answer and I hope this helps others out there with the same question.
Cool to close the thread?
I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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anubis2k3 said:
I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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Umm. Not true at all actually. I had a P+ dealer switch over my phone with a bad esn (mother in law didnt pah her bill) and they didn't use a "friend" phone. It doesn't require stealing a phones imei or anything it requires a lot of work to port it to a different carrier, but doesn't require anything illegal. Not to mention what you're talking about is also based on the staye you are in. In the states it js legal as long as you aren't copying two have two phones on one service and is completely legal ( state dependant) if you own both phones. Check your facts.
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Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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OK. Well it makes sense now why I'm not getting much help on this topic. Anyone know of a forum for this kind of stuff?
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
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blu422 said:
as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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jameyscott said:
Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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well if it is by the carrier or carrier certified reps it isn't. and what that other guy said it works with DFS CDMAtool or I've heard of cdma workshop working good take a look here
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
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It is easy, but only to people that already know how to do it. The process is similar for most phones and doesn't require a lot, but most that try to do it dont know what they're doing and it takes them forever. What we need is a good electrical engineer.
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Quick update:
The Rezound can work on Sprint-based towers, at least with leaked global (4.03) and stock global (4.05) radios. It took me couple of days of fidding via DFS, but right now I do have 3G working, albeit with the stock ROM complaining that mobile data isn't working. Trying out couple of ROMs to see which ones is usable.
Most important thing is that the 8K radio needs to be set to NV_ONLY but that 9K can be set to RUIM preferred. Also, flashing the firmware (from the recent 4.05 global update) will reset the 8K radio to RUIM, which is a good thing/bad thing. Good thing is that if you ever want to NV reset (since hard resets do not seem to wipe NV), flashing the latest firmware/radio should get you back to RUIM/stock PRL/blanked #. Bad thing is you need to fiddle with some of the settings in DFS again, but at least it's only for the 8K radio so far.
Another thing that probably made it work was to use the same PRL from the phone Sprint thinks you are using. For me this was the 61009 PRL. Profile info only needs to get stuck into the 9K radio and I don't think you really need to bother with the NAM2 stuff. But again, I've done too many fiddling to be able to say for certain.
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