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How do I completely freeze this service using T backup pro?
I freezed Gtalk 1.0.3 the app, but using Betterbatterystats reveal that gtalk_async_conn still resulting in partial wakelock timing
I have also noticed this.
Anyway we can stop it?
Still no solution? GTALK_ASYNC_CONN is my main Partial Wakelock in the Betterbatterystats (KH3 firmware) and heavy battery drainer with about 60 min of activity during 8 hours...
same problem with me...and no one on Google does not have a solution for this.
installed 'Better Battery Stats' to see what was keeping the phone up and it's "gtalk_async_conn". The thing is that I don't even use Google Talk. I tried to disable auto-login and freeze it with Titanium Backup without any luck. The only thing that worked was to disable 'Background data' but other apps like Market needs that option on.
Literally everyone appears to have this problem, i actually froze Talk in Titanium and have had no problems but is this Gtalk_async_conn related to this or what?
This problem persist more with google Maps 5.8, 5.9 version. I uninstalled the google maps and noticed that problem was solved, issue was not present anymore in wakelock of batterbatterystats. However it's not permanent solution.
same prob here. would be nice if s.o. has a solution
I also uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup) and it helped for a while -- got really minimal battery drain for several hours. But now the problem is back so I'm wondering if it might also be related to Market or Gmail.
I would say this is the answer.
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And it would explain why everyone has it.
That post might explain what it is, but it's not very helpful at solving the issue.
I turned off notifications in Market (some versions don't have this setting; try Market 3.1.3). If it still doesn't help then I am going to try turning off Gmail sync.
Turn off all syncing (gmail, calander, etc), turn off background data and you may have it disappear, also don't use anything that uses google c2d push notifications.
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I did the following:
- Uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup)
- Turned off notifications in Market (using Market 3.1.3)
- Turned off Google accounting syncing for everything except Gmail (background data / auto-sync still enabled)
Partial wakelocks for GTALK_ASYNC_CONN are now very low. Just a couple of seconds over 15+ hours of low use.
However I think I still have some battery drain (based on Battery Monitor Widget) so I am looking at other possibilities.
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I did the following:
- Uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup)
- Turned off notifications in Market (using Market 3.1.3)
- Turned off Google accounting syncing for everything except Gmail (background data / auto-sync still enabled)
Partial wakelocks for GTALK_ASYNC_CONN are now very low. Just a couple of seconds over 15+ hours of low use.
However I think I still have some battery drain (based on Battery Monitor Widget) so I am looking at other possibilities.
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I am not trying to be a smartass but doesn't your battery monitor widget cause some battery drain?
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I am not trying to be a smartass but doesn't your battery monitor widget cause some battery drain?
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Totally valid point. But I have also tried running it with Battery Monitor Widget turned off and I still see the same drain (by looking at the battery history graph).
Also while experimenting, I had a couple of hours where Battery Monitor Widget continuously reported -1mA battery discharge (while Battery Monitor Widget was running of course). The battery history graph was basically flat. So that tells me that I can still run Battery Monitor Widget and get minimal battery usage -- if everything else is working right.
In the Better Battery Stats thread, the developer says his target battery discharge is -2mA to -10mA (measured by Battery Monitor Widget). I know it's possible because I've gotten it before, but lately I'm somewhere around -70mA so that's what I've been working on.
Getting great battery life now with the Gtalk_async_conn issue seemingly gone. I still have Maps removed -- luckily I do not need it much these days. I also notice that Market likes to stay running in the background, where it uses some CPU time even with notifications disabled. Also, turning on Google Calendar auto-sync caused significant battery drain.
Quick summary:
- Uninstall/freeze Maps
- Kill Market if it's running in the background
- Turn off Google account syncing for everything except Gmail
- Turn off "Back up my data" under Privacy settings
I was at about 50% battery after 20 hours. I am running Cognition 1.5.1 with SpeedMod kernel.
claimui said:
Getting great battery life now with the Gtalk_async_conn issue seemingly gone. I still have Maps removed -- luckily I do not need it much these days. I also notice that Market likes to stay running in the background, where it uses some CPU time even with notifications disabled. Also, turning on Google Calendar auto-sync caused significant battery drain.
Quick summary:
- Uninstall/freeze Maps
- Kill Market if it's running in the background
- Turn off Google account syncing for everything except Gmail
I was at about 50% battery after 20 hours. I am running Cognition 1.5.1 with SpeedMod kernel.
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It's good to know that these mods work, but they are pretty extreme for me, and I would assume many others. I actively use the functionality of Maps and other Google account syncing. I hope that someone can work out a way to minimize the usage without cutting off the functionality completely.
For what it's worth, I see a dramatically higher usage of the GTALK process when I am at work where some of the syncs are blocked on the office wifi. Out of the office on 3G or at home, the amount of time GTALK is active is significantly reduced.
Atrix here but same issue. I agree if turning off syncs is the way to go, I might as well buy a dumbphone
I agree it's annoying. But the battery life improvement is dramatic, even more so than I mentioned in my earlier post. I used to get <20 hours per charge. Now I get about 3 days. Hopefully these are just bugs in the apps that Google will fix in future versions.
Not sure what is causing it. I have turned off auto-sync, logged out of gtalk, and even turned off "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore" from Settings>Privacy.
I still notice 1-2 minutes of partial wakelocks.
Try killing Market if it is running.
Im running HydrogenICS with Siyah, never had troubles with that kernel with any rom. No batterydrain or anything. But after the new FB app update its been draining my battery. Plus ive added exchange to my mails now and moved my Gmail from Gmail app to the stock mail app. Theres no push alternative there for the gmail so its on 1hr update.
Any thoughts? First day running this rom+kernel combo. But usually after a day like this, its supposed to be at 70%. It was quite hot during music playing with poweramp (no wifi connection available). I usually use home button to exit apps, not back button.
In short:
1. Facebook app drain, version 1.9.0 with camera app and messenger app.
2. Exchange drain.
3. Whats causing it? or how to prevent it!
fb is active app so itsrunning in the background....well u can stop using the apps tht drains,avoid alwayz using home bttn ,instead use task manager an kill unwanted apps....and turn off auto sync
To be honest that isn't normal unless when you go to facebook application and click menu and settings. Then you will find a screen where it tells you when it will refresh, e.g. "every 30 minutes, hour, 2hours, 3 hours and 4hours. So if its 30 minutes, I believe that's what could be causing the drain.
If all of that doesn't fix it, try uninstalling the application and installing it again (if you haven't done so already :])
Have a good day :] And good luck with the battery drain :/
Hello all,
I got frustrated with the unrealistic 10% step battery reporting and unknown battery eaters so below are the steps I've taken. Scroll down to skip the initial stats.
First you should study http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27927999 and use the tips given there. I will focus on more internal stuff that is in part specific to RAZR. This guide is for you if you see high battery usage of "Android OS".
Suggested apps:
- Circle Battery - free - it will report the real battery percentage as well as battery temperature. The higher the temperature the slower the phone will charge
- BetterBatteryStats - paid on the Market or free here on XDA
Measuring:
I would suggest to do measure any improvements during idle usage. It's a lot easier to track down the hungry settings.
Also, you should fully charge your phone between measurements so the battery stats get reset. There are also other ways to do it.
Establish the baseline usage of your phone with the current setup. You can assume a linear battery run down so you can extrapolate from the REAL 20% of battery usage that your phone will last 5 times more.
Go to Settings=>Battery and write down which apps used most of the battery.
If screen and cell standby are the biggest ones then you are mostly ok: cell switching for 2G->3G->4G switching is eating a lot of battery.
You can either: use WiFi for data (if available and has a good signal) or disable data altogether while in the problematic area. You can also disable high-speed connections and remain on 2G.
If Android OS is eating the most then write down the stats and read on.
Remove ALL the widgets on the home screen. Measure battery usage again as above. If still not satisfied, keep widgets removed and read on.
Go into Settings=>Accounts and disable unneeded syncing of accounts. You can manually sync your Drive app for example or the Books. For example, I have left only Browser, Calendar, Contacts, Chrome for my google account.
Set your email checking frequency to 1 hour for all email accounts, don't use push.
Measure and move on if not satisfied.
Open BetterBatteryStats and set the second drop-down as 'Since Unplugged'.
Select "Partial Wakelocks" from the first combo and study the output. It will tell you which apps are waking up the phone.
Select "Alarms" from first combo and study which apps are periodically waking up the phone to process data. Mostly email, calendar, facebook, but you might have a few surprises. Clicking on an alarm will show how many times the application has woken up the phone and how long it kept it up. There is a lot more information here on the forums about BBS usage so do a search.
Some other thing: high data usage would most like mean high CPU and battery usage. A friend with SGS noted that the News&Weather app ate 300MB of data in two days. While transferring, the phone is most likely not idle. You can check data usage in Settings=>Data Usage. From the options menu you can also enable the WiFi statistics and check those as well.
Hopefully by now you have identified what's keeping eating your battery so let's see the:
Actions
Is the app needed? If not, just disable it through Manage Apps=>App Info=>Disable
Does the app really need the data connection? If not, go to the data settings, set a limit to the data plan and you are able to disable background data for some apps.
Find battery-friendly alternatives for applications and widgets.
Use Tasker to set profiles. For example I'm automatically opening up the WiFi while near one of my home GSM Cells. This uses minimal battery as opposed to a GPS positioning. I'm disabling all data connections during night time, also good for sanity.
There's a lot more info about Tasker and building profiles on the Internet.
You can also use the built-in Smart Actions app, but it's not so flexible.
Increase the WiFi search delay from 45s to 90s or more.
[TODO: more measures]
Recommendations
On my phone MotoEmail was eating a lot of battery, even more while set as a widget on the home screen. I've replaced it with 'Inverted Mail', it's the stock ICS Google Email app with inverted colors. To replace it you have to use Root Explorer (or similar), set the /system as r/w and rename /system/app MotoEmail.apk to *.bak, copy the inverted app as MotoEmail.apk and install it. You will lose some options such as gestures, widget style and probably more.
Put a leash on location-aware apps like Latitude and Social Location, they will send a lot of work to Google Maps.
Use darker themes and low brightness for improved screen-on life.
Check live wallpaper CPU usage by enabling the checkbox inside the developer settings.
Give up your microSD card if you can live with 16GB.
Disable touch sounds and haptic feedback.
Disable automatic market update checking and notifications. Still at notifications, disable the notifications you don't really need.
Watch out for maps that automatically update graphically. Google maps live background or widget is nice but it kills the battery and performance.
Other stuff
There are also a lot of other options but I have not been able to confirm them on myr Razr since I have only had it since last week. These include underclocking, raising minimum CPU speed (worked on my other phones), using different colors for background and theme, disabling some logs, modifying buffer sync time, boot scripts etc.
Feel free to add to this thread by listing your changes that improved battery life.
TL;DR
Install Circle Battery Widget and BetterBatteryStats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27927999
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Thanks, I actually followed that thread but it mostly deals with improving the result not solving the root of the problem.
I would say it's mostly a complement to your thread, except the recommendations which are pretty similar.
I could have added to your thread but the information gets lost quickly if you are not within the first few posts.
Above is only one of the ways in which you can systematically track down battery usage, mostly tailored for an ICS Razr.
Thanks again for your reference, it's very helpful and all owners should read it.
Explanations for varios high-usage services:
com*motoemail*
This is the default email client included by Motorola. I had to replace it with the standard ICS mail client and chose the inverted version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634469
I have seen a high improvement since I made the switch and functionality is almost the same.
The Motorola email client is hungry for wakelocks so something is badly coded there. The situation gets even worse if you add the widget to your homescreen.
I'm on the leak so situation might be improved by the OTA.
spi_tty_wakelock
This is actually the data connection (2G/3G/4G) transferring data.
Could be caused by always-online applications (Facebook, Messenger, GTalk) and by network location service.
This name is specific to Motorola.
PowerManagerService
Grouping of partial wakelocks: https://github.com/asksven/BetterBatteryStats-Knowledge-Base/wiki/PowerManagerService
AudioOut
Caused by: phone ringing, audio notifications, haptic/sound feedback for selections and keyboard, listening to radio/music.
usb
Caused by the USB connection, of course.
Tip: by doing a complete dump of the file you can study the running services as well, it's the last section of the file. I'm still trying to make figure out what the all the com.motorola services are doing and what input (data, location, ...) they need.
brainwash123 said:
Explanations for varios high-usage services:
com*motoemail*
This is the default email client included by Motorola. I had to replace it with the standard ICS mail client and chose the inverted version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634469
I have seen a high improvement since I made the switch and functionality is almost the same.
The Motorola email client is hungry for wakelocks so something is badly coded there. The situation gets even worse if you add the widget to your homescreen.
I'm on the leak so situation might be improved by the OTA.
spi_tty_wakelock
This is actually the data connection (2G/3G/4G) transferring data.
Could be caused by always-online applications (Facebook, Messenger, GTalk) and by network location service.
This name is specific to Motorola.
PowerManagerService
Grouping of partial wakelocks: https://github.com/asksven/BetterBatteryStats-Knowledge-Base/wiki/PowerManagerService
AudioOut
Caused by: phone ringing, audio notifications, haptic/sound feedback for selections and keyboard, listening to radio/music.
usb
Caused by the USB connection, of course.
Tip: by doing a complete dump of the file you can study the running services as well, it's the last section of the file. I'm still trying to make figure out what the all the com.motorola services are doing and what input (data, location, ...) they need.
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Great tips, a somewhat different approach to increasing battery life.
Can I add this to my thread, get an all in one?
Nice write up. Thanks!
I already posted about this in the NRG ROM because that's the ROM I'm using, but I am so impressed with the battery improvement after using this app for a week that I had to cross post to a larger audience. I know the battery is the one major drawback on the Amaze. This is just not a problem for me anymore since I started using Greenify.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
I've been getting over 24 hours regularly with 3-4 hours screen time. I'm using NRG with stock kernel, but I see no reason why this app wouldn't offer improvement for any configuration. It enables effective hibernation of apps without freezing them. They'll run but only in the foreground. It cuts out all background processes of the apps you select.
You have total control over which apps you want running in the background and allows you to keep the aggressive battery hogs at bay. You select which apps should hibernate. For instance, now Google maps will really stay asleep when it's not being used, no constant wake locks, but unlike with freezing it, you can conveniently launch it when needed. However any apps with background processes that are actually useful are free to do their thing, eg, widgets you want to auto update. It's taming the beast that is android.
And not only is my battery improved, but my phone is more responsive too. Highly recommended. Here's the xda thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
thanks a lot for sharing this, will try it out, always wanted an app like this, the maps kill the battery for no good reason.
My pleasure. I hope your experience is as satisfying mine.
dosnt kill maps most apps remain in idle, pending hibernation mode.
EDIT, opened my eyes and read the FAQ. - maps not gonna die :|
Q: Some of my greenified apps (e.g. Google Maps) seems not hibernating.
A: In short, don't worry about frequently awake apps. It will still hibernate in minutes after screen goes off, thus hardly add observable battery consumption. Use battery statistics in settings or "BetterBatteryStats" to confirm that.
While most greenified apps will stay in hibernation quietly, some apps do break hibernation, due to being waken up by others. Some known cases include enabled account sync, backup agent, and explicit launch by other app.
Since version 1.45, Greenify will now automatically turn off directly involved account sync of greenified apps when going to hibernate, to avoid the periodic account sync wake them up. For backup agents, Greenify will NOT disable them, to ensure your backup of app data is always up-to-date. As backup usually does not perform often, they are thus unlikely to be waken up often.
Google Maps is a typical example of explicit launch by other app. Some Google apps, including Google Now (a.k.a Google Search), will start the NetworkLocationProvider of Google Maps for its proprietary implementation instead of the public Android one if Google Maps is installed.
Since Greenify is designed to not break any explicit usage of greenified apps, these behaviors are considered "normal", and will NOT be "fixed". To clear out your unease, Greenify will still put them into hibernation when standby to protect your battery consumption.
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dosnt kill maps most apps remain in idle, pending hibernation mode.
EDIT, opened my eyes and read the FAQ. - maps not gonna die :|
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You can manually put them into hibernation mode by selecting them, and hitting the pause button at the top of the screen. To help control maps make sure you don't have Google Now running or have it on in a very limited mode. (Google Now sucker punches battery. Honestly, I just presume that anyone interested in battery preservation has abandoned Google Now.) The other anti-maps tactic I use is to go to System Settings>>Location and disable "GPS satellites" and "Location & Google search." I can easily re-enable these through a widget I have set up when I need Maps capability, but it keeps the program quiet for the most part and Greenify does the rest.
The proof is in the screenshots. I never got any battery life like this before Greenify.
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The proof is in the screenshots. I never got any battery life like this before Greenify.
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but in those pics i also see juice defender running, so that may be playing a part too. also there are no phone calls, phone calls take a lot of juice.
regarless of that i have witnessed significant battery improvement with this app, i think i'll be giving a donation to this guy. he deserves it.
bilaliz said:
but in those pics i also see juice defender running, so that may be playing a part too. also there are no phone calls, phone calls take a lot of juice.
regarless of that i have witnessed significant battery improvement with this app, i think i'll be giving a donation to this guy. he deserves it.
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Lol yea juice defender
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I've had Juice Defender going as long as I've had my phone. I use the customization in ultimate, but before Greenify, I was getting around 17 hours battery life. So JD has not been a variable for me in evaluating the app.
I'm not a big phone call maker, but I do use bluetooth for music streaming a lot. I think it was so minor in comparison to the screen usage that day that it probably didn't even register 1% battery usage.
So I'm giving it a try. This a pretty much a light app that kills the app you select when you aren't using it.
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Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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mestguy182 said:
Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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I did the same and it helped my battery life dramatically.
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mestguy182 said:
Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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Thanks for the tip. I am trying this out as well and after 2 days, my battery life has doubled. :good: Even works very well on my wife's GNex, where the battery life is worse than the Amaze
Just want to compare and see what other people are seeing. I'm on stock rooted ME7 with a lot of bloat frozen. Data was left on, but no WiFi or Bluetooth. Email sync is scheduled not to sync during the hours I sleep, and I don't use Facebook or Twitter. About the only thing that syncs overnight is weather. I checked using GSAM battery monitor, there were only two wakelocks for like 40 seconds, and the only apps using power were android kernel and system, no third party apps. It did show the gyroscope running for 7 hours (???!).
Is this typical? I just came from a rezound, not exactly the king of battery, but that phone only lost about 1% per hour in standby...
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Just want to compare and see what other people are seeing. I'm on stock rooted ME7 with a lot of bloat frozen. Data was left on, but no WiFi or Bluetooth. Email sync is scheduled not to sync during the hours I sleep, and I don't use Facebook or Twitter. About the only thing that syncs overnight is weather. I checked using GSAM battery monitor, there were only two wakelocks for like 40 seconds, and the only apps using power were android kernel and system, no third party apps. It did show the gyroscope running for 7 hours (???!).
Is this typical? I just came from a rezound, not exactly the king of battery, but that phone only lost about 1% per hour in standby...
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Well it makes a difference what ROM you're on. Stock ROM, maybe I don't remember how it was on Stock but I've basically used CleanROM 1.0 and am now on BoneStock 1.1.4 shortly after GS4 VZW release. I get .25% to .50% drain per hour if WiFi is not on. I have Email sync once per hour even overnight. I also go under "Data Usage" in settings and I block background data on stuff that has some background usage. I DO NOT restrict background data on Internet, Android OS, Google Services, Play Store, Email, Gmail, or Media. Most other things i do restrict Background data on. Things like YouTube, Gallery, ESfile, DropBox, Slingplayer, netflix, and i freeze Maps until I need them as it burns battery even when not in use.
I hope this helps.
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Well it makes a difference what ROM you're on. Stock ROM, maybe I don't remember how it was on Stock but I've basically used CleanROM 1.0 and am now on BoneStock 1.1.4 shortly after GS4 VZW release. I get .25% to .50% drain per hour if WiFi is not on. I have Email sync once per hour even overnight. I also go under "Data Usage" in settings and I block background data on stuff that has some background usage. I DO NOT restrict background data on Internet, Android OS, Google Services, Play Store, Email, Gmail, or Media. Most other things i do restrict Background data on. Things like YouTube, Gallery, ESfile, DropBox, Slingplayer, netflix, and i freeze Maps until I need them as it burns battery even when not in use.
I hope this helps.
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dont mean to hijack thread but how do you change email sync to once per hour - is there a way to do it for GMAIL in particular?
That's about what I lost last night per hour. It varied between 1.1 and 2.4% per hour.
MDK firmware, but ME7 based rom.
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dont mean to hijack thread but how do you change email sync to once per hour - is there a way to do it for GMAIL in particular?
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Go into email then settings, and select the account you want to change sync in, then sync schedule and at the top and choose the sync frequency.
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Go into email then settings, and select the account you want to change sync in, then sync schedule and at the top and choose the sync frequency.
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any way to change it for GMAIL?
Eric214 said:
Well it makes a difference what ROM you're on. Stock ROM, maybe I don't remember how it was on Stock but I've basically used CleanROM 1.0 and am now on BoneStock 1.1.4 shortly after GS4 VZW release. I get .25% to .50% drain per hour if WiFi is not on. I have Email sync once per hour even overnight. I also go under "Data Usage" in settings and I block background data on stuff that has some background usage. I DO NOT restrict background data on Internet, Android OS, Google Services, Play Store, Email, Gmail, or Media. Most other things i do restrict Background data on. Things like YouTube, Gallery, ESfile, DropBox, Slingplayer, netflix, and i freeze Maps until I need them as it burns battery even when not in use.
I hope this helps.
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This is impressive....
i normally get around .2 to .7%/ hour on standby with wifi, gps, and all account syncing on. i do use greenify to sleep maps and g service and a bunch of other apps.
this is on synergy rom.
the biggest battery help was turning off location services.
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i normally get around .2 to .7%/ hour on standby with wifi, gps, and all account syncing on. i do use greenify to sleep maps and g service and a bunch of other apps.
this is on synergy rom.
the biggest battery help was turning off location services.
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you can't get .2% drain per hour with both wifi and gps on... They will make your Android OS drain battery much faster and push that from 4-6% up to 15% or more in your battery stats. Plus if GPS is on so are your location services.
Can someone post a good list of apps to sleep with Greenify?
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you can't get .2% drain per hour with both wifi and gps on... They will make your Android OS drain battery much faster and push that from 4-6% up to 15% or more in your battery stats. Plus if GPS is on so are your location services.
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i actually do, but i have to be connected to a wifi source at the time. i always have wifi on and gps. as for location services, i meant that i turn off the service for all google apps in google settings. that mofo drains like you wouldn't believe. with very light use today i used up 1.1% per hour while at work (for 10 hours). i used the phone a little more while off and with 41 min of screen on i'm at 70%, down from 92% at 7:30. adding that after work time i'm now at 1.83%/hour in the last 12 hours.
at home at night, i usually drop from .2% to .8% (sorry, i missed that by .1% earlier, lol). either synergy is that freaking good, my battery calibration is whacko, i've greenified the right stuff, or i'm just fricken luck. i don't really know. but my numbers are what they are. i use both bmw and bbs.
Well, as an experiment I Greenified a few apps, turned data and location services off and put the phone in power save mode, and left it off the charger over night. I lost 1% in 8 hours. That's more like it.