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I came from the Inspire 4G to the Atrix. The Inspire 4G was my first Android phone and I just loved the rooting and custom ROMS.
I switch to the Atrix because of the FFC, Dual-Core, and 1080p camera. I thought about it and was wondering if it ever will be possible to crack the bootloader. I know there are efforts going on right now to do so and I really appreciate all the developers trying to get the bootloader cracked.
My question is, will the Atrix's bootloader ever be cracked?
I want to know so I can stay with the Atrix and be prepared for the future (Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb) or if I want custom ROMs just stay with the Inspire 4G?
Thanks and I hope someone knows what I mean.
Shad0w2626 said:
I came from the Inspire 4G to the Atrix. The Inspire 4G was my first Android phone and I just loved the rooting and custom ROMS.
I switch to the Atrix because of the FFC, Dual-Core, and 1080p camera. I thought about it and was wondering if it ever will be possible to crack the bootloader. I know there are efforts going on right now to do so and I really appreciate all the developers trying to get the bootloader cracked.
My question is, will the Atrix's bootloader ever be cracked?
I want to know so I can stay with the Atrix and be prepared for the future (Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb) or if I want custom ROMs just stay with the Inspire 4G?
Thanks and I hope someone knows what I mean.
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No one knows for sure right now.
neer2005 said:
No one knows for sure right now.
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Thanks for the quick response. And this sucks.. I'm really starting to like the Atrix but at the same time, want full root and custom ROMs.. :/
Shad0w2626 said:
Thanks for the quick response. And this sucks.. I'm really starting to like the Atrix but at the same time, want full root and custom ROMs.. :/
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We do have full root but custom ROMs is still in the works.
I think there was another thread somewhere here where someone had a thread on the Motorola forums, with a Motorola rep saying that it's not a definite, but thoughts of un-signing the bootloader are going around. I guess it didn't phase them how important that might be to some people or something.
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I think there was another thread somewhere here where someone had a thread on the Motorola forums, with a Motorola rep saying that it's not a definite, but thoughts of un-signing the bootloader are going around. I guess it didn't phase them how important that might be to some people or something.
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Here's the link:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45249?start=75&tstart=0
Link doesn't seem to work.
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if you dont know if you should ask a question or post on here feel free to send me an IM on AIM.... the worst I will say is sorry I dont know and i will help you find out. The dev forms are getting pretty full with distracting questions for the devs so I thought while Im at work I will try and help with random questions. and who know maybe ul teach me something
Aim: TheJonDude
please keep it to thunderbolt related questions
People shouldn't be scared. Thats why these forums are here. There will always be internet assassins but people shouldn't be afraid of them. There are no stupid questions just stupid people.. Good service you will be doing though
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That's very cool of you. Though, most questions can be answered with a simple search on the forums.
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People would save themselves a lot of flaming if they would search before they ask, but yeah, that's cool of you to do.
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That's very cool of you. Though, most questions can be answered with a simple search on the forums.
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Unfortunately the search function on XDA isn't the easiest to use nor very helpful. I think it's cool though thejondude is offering his help.
At least through the app, the search is way too general and overall pretty crappy. Its frustrating to use for a new user like myself.
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thanks guys i really dont mind the random IM's it helps pass the time at work
If anyone wants to email me ([email protected]) I will also be willing to help. I always have my phone and will usually get back to you rather quickly.
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Very gracious of you.
I'm sure some people would greatly appreciate your help.
I have had my TB for a week now... Can you please tell me how to turn it on and make a call? I have tried pressing on the screen hard and holding it that way for 10 seconds but it still doesn’t turn on. I would call Verizon for help but I can’t because my phone won’t turn on....
Thanks!
P.S. after I get it on can you tell me how to locate fried chicken restaurants near me using the GPS?
Thanks again!
Excellent thread sir. Im using ching's the perfect storm Rom and am wondering how to flash to different kernels. I see where to to find them, but how to I flash them? I'm sure I've overlooked several threads on how to.do this but frankly I'm tired of.looking!
Thank you
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Excellent thread sir. Im using ching's the perfect storm Rom and am wondering how to flash to different kernels. I see where to to find them, but how to I flash them? I'm sure I've overlooked several threads on how to.do this but frankly I'm tired of.looking!
Thank you
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Just flash them the same way you flashed your Rom. That's all no complicated process or anything.
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Thanks for the thread. I use search and find most things but find it comforting there is help by individuals. Have certainly used it in the past.
bump im on aim going to lunch soon tho so catch me while u can
Thank you for this thread! I am rooted and have tried several roms and radios. My question is this: Is the check for updates function in phone settings a reliable way to determine if your phone is capable of receiving OTA updates? I noticed when I was on a leaked radio it would tell me that the update service was unavailable and to check back. When I returned to the stock radio it said there were no updates available. Tia!
P.S. I am currently on the stock rom and radio. I am aware that any official OTA updates may wipe my root and my ability to reroot.
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I'm also willing to answer PM's if anyone has personal or relationship problems they'd like to discuss.
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Thank you for this thread! I am rooted and have tried several roms and radios. My question is this: Is the check for updates function in phone settings a reliable way to determine if your phone is capable of receiving OTA updates? I noticed when I was on a leaked radio it would tell me that the update service was unavailable and to check back. When I returned to the stock radio it said there were no updates available. Tia!
P.S. I am currently on the stock rom and radio. I am aware that any official OTA updates may wipe my root and my ability to reroot.
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In the past, if you did not have all of the bloatware, etc. that came on the phone (i.e. if you were not completely stock) you would have issues getting the OTA. Since you are back to stock, you should not have any issues, but I wouldn't necessarily say that "check for updates" is the best way to determine that. If you are completely stock, you will get the OTA, but I wouldn't say that check for updates is all that reliable if you have changed something.
HawkStream said:
I have had my TB for a week now... Can you please tell me how to turn it on and make a call? I have tried pressing on the screen hard and holding it that way for 10 seconds but it still doesn’t turn on. I would call Verizon for help but I can’t because my phone won’t turn on....
Thanks!
P.S. after I get it on can you tell me how to locate fried chicken restaurants near me using the GPS?
Thanks again!
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Lambo... See one in every bunch. Ignore them, Keep up the work guys.
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In the past, if you did not have all of the bloatware, etc. that came on the phone (i.e. if you were not completely stock) you would have issues getting the OTA. Since you are back to stock, you should not have any issues, but I wouldn't necessarily say that "check for updates" is the best way to determine that. If you are completely stock, you will get the OTA, but I wouldn't say that check for updates is all that reliable if you have changed something.
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I am completely stock with the exception of root at the moment. Just curious if I will be able to deny OTA updates or they will automatically update my phone. With the OG Droid I was asked if I wanted to update or not. I don't want to lose root with no going back. Thanks.
I would assume so (that you can deny). I jumped on the Droid train a bit later but have always been asked (when I was all stock) to update.
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hi all I was just curious if anyone knows if the new Netflix app is working on the Thunderbolt or not. I assume it would but the thunderbolt is not listed on the netflix web site as a supported phone for this app, even though 3 other HTC phones are listed and are older tech than the Thunderbolt. I tried to install it but they want me to start an account with them first and I'm not opening a Netflix account unless I know for sure this will work on My thunderbolt. I'd appreciate any information anyone has on this,.. thanks!!
there are hacked netflix APKs out there that work on the thunderbolt
I thought it was only working for cm7?
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ajd88 said:
I thought it was only working for cm7?
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Confirmed. It works on CM7. You can get the .apk in the CM7 thread somewhere.
I take it you mean cyanogen Mod 7,.
seabhac said:
I take it you mean cyanogen Mod 7,.
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You are correct.
I appreciate that,.. now next,,, 4 things,..
1. what's the best way to Root the HTC Thunderbolt
2. how do I install a ROM, never done so before
3. can someone link me the cyanogen mod 7 forum where I can download the files for it
4. Can someone link me where to get the APK that works with Cyanogen mod7 for Netflix?
oh and 5th... thanks!
what about netflix for virusrom? ......i'd post it there, but I'm not allowed to post in development pages being a new user and all...
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what about netflix for virusrom? ......i'd post it there, but I'm not allowed to post in development pages being a new user and all...
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The Netflix app will not work with any ROMs based off the official Thunderbolt RUUs as of now.
I was so mad when my boyfriend's Incredible would stream Netflix, and my newer Thunderbolt WON'T. He doesn't even use his phone. He fixed it so he can use wireless tethering..and uses his ipod touch! That's what made me so pissed off about it. I actually want to be able to watch Netflix on mine! Maybe one day soon =(
yeah This fairly well annoys me as well.. I purposefully bought the highest end phone I could find with the latest technology and it can't run the netflix app while the older models can,.. sounds kinda backasswards to me... really bugs me
Would love to have this working. Til then I guess I'll just have to use it on my DX
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Yea, any word on when they'll be supporting it?
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Yea, any word on when they'll be supporting it?
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"Soon"....
seabhac said:
hi all I was just curious if anyone knows if the new Netflix app is working on the Thunderbolt or not. I assume it would but the thunderbolt is not listed on the netflix web site as a supported phone for this app, even though 3 other HTC phones are listed and are older tech than the Thunderbolt. I tried to install it but they want me to start an account with them first and I'm not opening a Netflix account unless I know for sure this will work on My thunderbolt. I'd appreciate any information anyone has on this,.. thanks!!
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If you are rooted you can trick the app into thinking you are using one of the phones that are listed. I think i read about the trick on android central if i find the link i will post it.
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If you are rooted you can trick the app into thinking you are using one of the phones that are listed. I think i read about the trick on android central if i find the link i will post it.
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Ok so the post i read about was actually for the nook, but maybe it will work on the thunderbolt.
http://www.androidcentral.com/netflix-rooted-nook-color-how
ltredbeard said:
Ok so the post i read about was actually for the nook, but maybe it will work on the thunderbolt.
http://www.androidcentral.com/netflix-rooted-nook-color-how
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Don't think so, so far its only working if your running CM7 I believe.
Has anyone on here used CM7? I loaded it one day and nothing really worked on it. I couldn't get on the internet or anything... sounds like to a waste to run CM7 just to use netflix
Netflix does work on cm7 and will be supported on the thunderbolt soon. The reason why it wasn't initially is because the phone is new and Netflix didn't have time to test it on our devices. Just give it some time and you all will be rewarded.
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My understanding is that they are waiting til after the Revolution comes out to activate it for LTE phones. Its one of the selling points of the Revolution so it will probably be exclusive to that for a month or so. Just speculating though.
2nd-init
for Gingerbread Droid X2
Special thanks to: Edgan, eval-
2nd-init has been updated to support Gingerbread on the Droid X2.
To learn more about 2nd-init click here.
Updated 9/5/2011: Found a small bug that would prevent the process from working correctly, it has been fixed.
Download: http://www.multiupload.com/LLHFFCDKJ4
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?00680r12noub389
You sir, are awesome and I await more awesomeness from you
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And one more thing, how do I know it works after I flash the zip?
EDIT: I typed in ls /sys/kernel/debug and hit enter in a terminal, with and without root and nothing outputs
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KurioHonoo said:
And one more thing, how do I know it works after I flash the zip?
EDIT: I typed in ls /sys/kernel/debug and hit enter in a terminal, with and without root and nothing outputs
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If im understanding the article I just read on 2nd init, its pointless to run this unless you have a rom to install or are building a rom that uses it. This mod doesn't currently do anything for basic users and there is no need to have it currently. This mod is for serious developers only, am I right naven? I mean what's the point of hijacking the init if you have nothing to overwrite the boot process with? This is a very important mod , don't get me wrong and im very thankful for it.
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If im understanding the article I just read on 2nd init, its pointless to run this unless you have a rom to install or are building a rom that uses it. This mod doesn't currently do anything for basic users and there is no need to have it currently. This mod is for serious developers only, am I right naven? I mean what's the point of hijacking the init if you have nothing to overwrite the boot process with? This is a very important mod , don't get me wrong and im very thankful for it.
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Pretty much. That's why I didn't bother posting a long post about it. If you know how to use this, you can do pretty much anything shy of flashing a kernel or recovery.
Awesome work, thank you! Hopefully some devs can put this to use.
Hey Naven, have you been able or tried to get a hold of Dragonzkiller to see where he might be at with his work on CM7 or if he is still working on it at all?? Would be nice to know... And thanks again on the hard work to get this working finally!!!
Cool.... what was the new signature for execve()? Sorry I didn't log in to notice earlier =( You should post source
Glad you got it working!!
I haven't looked at it in awhile but dragonzkiller has his source on github you could probably Google it and it'll tell you if he's been active at all or you could even get the source. Last i heard i think it was the just the 2nd init that was causing problems.
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I haven't looked at it in awhile but dragonzkiller has his source on github you could probably Google it and it'll tell you if he's been active at all or you could even get the source. Last i heard i think it was the just the 2nd init that was causing problems.
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Honestly, I think that guy was just a sham, no offense, but I tried to contact him so that I could fork his code and assist in getting Cyanogen, but he never contacted me back, and the code on his github hasn't even been touched for like two months.
So, we have 2nd init, but no one is doing anything with it. Sure wish I knew more about how to move CM7 to our device. I have some free time but no knowledge.
Also, I haven't noticed this 2nd-init being discussed on other forums. Shouldn't you post it in as many places aa possible to gather more interest? Just a thought.
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So, we have 2nd init, but no one is doing anything with it. Sure wish I knew more about how to move CM7 to our device. I have some free time but no knowledge.
Also, I haven't noticed this 2nd-init being discussed on other forums. Shouldn't you post it in as many places aa possible to gather more interest? Just a thought.
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Please don't ever say that no one is doing anything with this. I am. CM7 is what I'm trying to do and with a dedicated version for the x2 (which my current version is a port of the ATRIX), I might be able to do something. The ONLY thing keeping me from continuing with CM7 is the new init script for it. Right now, I'm stuck though until kernel.org is back up and running.
I'm wondering, with 2nd init, would it be possible to boot into tenfars recovery without having to plug your phone in? If so, how hard would it be to implement?
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Please don't ever say that no one is doing anything with this. I am. CM7 is what I'm trying to do and with a dedicated version for the x2 (which my current version is a port of the ATRIX), I might be able to do something. The ONLY thing keeping me from continuing with CM7 is the new init script for it. Right now, I'm stuck though until kernel.org is back up and running.
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Sorry. No offense intended. I think we had all got the impression that you were just blowing smoke or had dropped off the face of the planet because no one had been able to contact you regarding your efforts. Please, please, please continue. CM7 is our only ticket to having MIUI on this bad boy some day, and I am eager for that day to come. In the meantime, if there is any way I can help, hit me up. I know a lot about coding and debugging, but no real experience with Android ROMs, so maybe I can help...maybe not. Just let me know.
so is this different than navenedrob's other hack? is this something I should flash over Eclipse with the init.d hack?
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so is this different than navenedrob's other hack? is this something I should flash over Eclipse with the init.d hack?
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No, you don't need this (for what you are thinking, specifically). They are not the same thing.
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Sorry. No offense intended. I think we had all got the impression that you were just blowing smoke or had dropped off the face of the planet because no one had been able to contact you regarding your efforts. Please, please, please continue. CM7 is our only ticket to having MIUI on this bad boy some day, and I am eager for that day to come. In the meantime, if there is any way I can help, hit me up. I know a lot about coding and debugging, but no real experience with Android ROMs, so maybe I can help...maybe not. Just let me know.
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Anyone willing to help can help. I never said no one could. Too many people on here want stuff with no dev'ing from themselves. I have been in contact with a few notable devs that I have helped me, and I will thank them. Now that I have the source back, I have started porting over the new 2nd-init into CM7DX2.
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Bump, this is actually kinda important..........
+1
dragonzkiller, How goes CM7DX2?
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dragonzkiller, How goes CM7DX2?
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That's not dragonz main project ...the last I heard
Look at the 2nd init think tank thread for info
Even if you have no coding experience at all, you can help. Testing is the easiest way to help. There are millions of lines of code and ways to set up these phones. Testing is the most important part of the development process. Without testers bugs will roam free. There are two separate major test categories, kernels and roms. Then minor testing such as mods/themes/etc. Kernels are the brains of the phone. Roms is the body. Both need to be tested and both need to be improved. When you test please do more than just quadrant. Make specific repeatable comments that will help some one fix the issue. Thanks and happy testing
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Ill do some testing.
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Even if you have no coding experience at all, you can help. Testing is the easiest way to help. There are millions of lines of code and ways to set up these phones. Testing is the most important part of the development process. Without testers bugs will roam free. There are two separate major test categories, kernels and roms. Then minor testing such as mods/themes/etc. Kernels are the brains of the phone. Roms is the body. Both need to be tested and both need to be improved. When you test please do more than just quadrant. Make specific repeatable commits that will help some one fix the issue. Thanks and happy testing
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Im in for some testing
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I don't have the time, got a few $$$ to help someone buy a phone. can sens to your paypal Joker?
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I have a photon already
dsims7_2000 said:
I don't have the time, got a few $$$ to help someone buy a phone. can sens to your paypal Joker?
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I think he is refering to sending you money to buy a phone strictly for testing.... so you dont brick yours
Oh well i dont mind. Its almost impossible to brick this phone. As long as you dont play with bad bootloaders(*cough yay4juggs *cough).
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I think he is refering to sending you money to buy a phone strictly for testing.... so you dont brick yours
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I do have a project i want tested. On the razr forum there is a project call debtop. Can someone flash my newest hardvfp kernel and test debtop on the photon. I believe i got the kernel to support it.
Edit gentop not debtop
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Ok - I'd love to help, but I'm not sure what your kernel is or the gentop is? I've rooted my phone, messed with a few simple things here and there, but other than that - I'm still learning. I did install a custom ROM on my old Hero, but I haven't messed with the Photon.
I do have time though - I work a lot of night shifts and if shown how to do something, I learn it quickly! If I can be any help, message me and I'll do what I can to help out!
I gotcha bubb. I'm in a 4G area if you you are still working on the bootloader
Hell I will even let you remote control my computer. Just don't go into the folder that says mmmm lol
No need. I actually know how to install a 64 bit operating system. Lol. Im slowly working on it. Its not a bootloader problem. Motorolas official engineering phones with real unlocked factory bootloaders dont have 4g. So obviously we gotta look elsewhere. Its possibly recovery related or some form of security check. Once we find exactly what it we can fix it. The best way is to dd everything. Like dd / lol. Once with stock, then after unlock only then recovey change. Once all three is pulled. Someone needs to run a diff, or physically cross check everything, eek. Once the culprit is found we will squash it. so obviously you can see this will be time consuming. Way more time then I ever get. I would have to take a vacation just to get that kind of time. I can do the squashing after the fact but atm im stuck trying to blindly fix it
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I gotcha bubb. I'm in a 4G area if you you are still working on the bootloader
Hell I will even let you remote control my computer. Just don't go into the folder that says mmmm lol
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melodic manatee men masturbating lonely over leftovers.
Nope wont open that folder
AJC9000 said:
I gotcha bubb. I'm in a 4G area if you you are still working on the bootloader
Hell I will even let you remote control my computer. Just don't go into the folder that says mmmm lol
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Okay this is to everyone wanting to help. Find me cool patches. Remember your looking for arm no neon stuff the kernel is 2.6.32.9(kinda). I might update to .50 if I can ever find those patches. Most stuff I can manually patch and do, but 2.6.32.* patches are huge and I need .patch's to do that. If you find kernels from other phones with cool stuff please make sure they actually post source. A bfs 400+ patch for 2.6.32.9 would be awesome, so would proper autogroups. Post findings here.
Thanks and happy hunting
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I'm not a programmer but I would like to help if I can. Picked up my MoPho 3 weeks ago, rooted it, and did a couple buildprop tweaks but nothing else. Haven't unlocked it yet, either. I would like to flash a different rom and/or kernel but want to do more reading first. I also need to get the right sbf and such, too. Currently system version 45.3.6.MB855.sprint.en.us; Android 2.3.4; Baseband N_01.28.07R; Webtop WT-1.2.0-160; Kernel [email protected] #2; Build 4.5.1A-1SUN-198.6
I'm a MoPho-er
This is good!
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I'd be happy to test, but I don't want to unlock the bootloader until it doesn't break 4g
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Joker this is just a thought but have you looked at the LTE drivers at all maybe something could be made from that or in any way be helpful
Lte drivers are there. Edit the build.prop
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Joker this is just a thought but have you looked at the LTE drivers at all maybe something could be made from that or in any way be helpful
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Not sure if I can say much on here but try to move the signal to Verizon.
I saw on the zumocast advert on the motorola website the photon was sporting the LTE icon. Maybe a minor error with one of the artists or maybe a hint...