I'm Galaxy Nexus owner. I have T-mobile and it works with HSPA+ without any problem. It is really fast.
In a blog I read that International version of SGSIII doesn't not support T-Mobile HSPA+ & 3G.
I wanted to be sure before ordering the phone.
Do you have any information about this?
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-start-but-you-should-probably-wait-22229303/
So, the trade-off for early access to the much-anticipated phone is less functionality. The international model’s 3G HSPA+ should have no problems with the AT&T network – though won’t step up to LTE – but won’t work on T-Mobile USA’s 3G as it lacks support for the 1700 band.
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Are you sure that's what you read?
Another way of reading it, is that T-mobile doesn't support the 1700 band, required for LTE. But what do I know? I only know that the modem firmware certainly supports the 1700 band, but whether or not this is implemented in hardware is a different story, but it would have been stupid not to have done it. The only way to tell, is if someone can start posting some internal pictures of the PCB so we can see what radio chip sets are used within.
You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
Plexicle said:
You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Some people just don't understand that though..
sigh.
...and how about AT&T?
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Got the message...
However, what about AT&T? Will I get 3G (HSPA+) on their network? As you probably know, there are SIM cards for both T-Mo and AT&T available to work with the international version of the S3.
What band does AT&T use for 3G/HSPA+ , and can the unlocked S3 use it?
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Got the message...
However, what about AT&T? Will I get 3G (HSPA+) on their network? As you probably know, there are SIM cards for both T-Mo and AT&T available to work with the international version of the S3.
What band does AT&T use for 3G/HSPA+ , and can the unlocked S3 use it?
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Yes, it will work fine. ATT HSPA+ is using 850/1900 and is completely compatible. You will get HSPA+ speeds with the Int. S3.
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Yes, it will work fine. ATT HSPA+ is using 850/1900 and is completely compatible. You will get HSPA+ speeds with the Int. S3.
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Awesome... Thanks, Plexicle!
Thanks for information guys. I was willing to buy and S3 but it looks like I won't.
I still have an amazing phone(GNEX). Go with it
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You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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Awesome... Thanks, Plexicle!
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SNaReX said:
I'm Galaxy Nexus owner. I have T-mobile and it works with HSPA+ without any problem. It is really fast.
In a blog I read that International version of SGSIII doesn't not support T-Mobile HSPA+ & 3G.
I wanted to be sure before ordering the phone.
Do you have any information about this?
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-start-but-you-should-probably-wait-22229303/
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Galaxy Nexus is penta-band (it supports a bunch, including 1700), and hopefully the next nexii will be as well.
To check for compatibility in future, you just need to compare the phone's frequencies with those listed for the provider (can probably find them on wikipedia even). In this particular case, you'll have to wait for the t-mobile s3 if you want hspa+.
It is worth pointing out (and I'm surprised that no one has done so yet) that T-Mobile USA is working to have hspa+ working with the 1900 band by the fourth quarter. So if the international S3 doesn't initially get hspa+ on tmo, it will by the end of the year, possibly even by the end of summer.
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It is worth pointing out (and I'm surprised that no one has done so yet) that T-Mobile USA is working to have hspa+ working with the 1900 band by the fourth quarter. So if the international S3 doesn't initially get hspa+ on tmo, it will by the end of the year, possibly even by the end of summer.
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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Agreed, you shouldn't make phone decisions on the basis of something that might happen eventually; who knows when they'll even get to your geographical location.
The baseband chip set is the same in Galaxy Nexus and i9300, so I see no other reason for not providing T-mobile compatibility apart from either not having had time to build the baseband firmware to conform to T-mobile networks or simply that T-mobile is doing something "wrong"! (Yeah, they tend to complicate things by reinventing the wheel, and Samsung are probably getting tired of having to provide them with separate models and modifications all the damn time, just because of it.)
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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You're wrong.the reason they're doing this is because of Lte. They want to use the 1700 band for lte and the 1900 for hspa since they don't have many people using the 1900 bands for gsm. So it'll happen really soon.
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You're wrong.the reason they're doing this is because of Lte. They want to use the 1700 band for lte and the 1900 for hspa since they don't have many people using the 1900 bands for gsm. So it'll happen really soon.
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I guess that depends on your definition of "really soon," but last I heard, TMo wasn't beginning the LTE transition until "early 2013".
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I guess that depends on your definition of "really soon," but last I heard, TMo wasn't beginning the LTE transition until "early 2013".
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But first they need to clear out the hspa 1700 spectrum for lte, and that's planned for later this year.
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But first they need to clear out the hspa 1700 spectrum for lte, and that's planned for later this year.
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Clearing out 1700 for LTE doesn't mean 1900 will be refarmed at the same time. They have been "refarming" for quite a while and still only have small areas to show for it.
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The baseband chip set is the same in Galaxy Nexus and i9300, so I see no other reason for not providing T-mobile compatibility apart from either not having had time to build the baseband firmware to conform to T-mobile networks or simply that T-mobile is doing something "wrong"! (Yeah, they tend to complicate things by reinventing the wheel, and Samsung are probably getting tired of having to provide them with separate models and modifications all the damn time, just because of it.)
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It has nothing to do with T-Mobile. If pentaband phones can exist it isn't that big of a deal to include the band. It is a European phone and they don't use the 1700mhz/2100mhz combo band that T-Mobile uses.
T-Mobile also isn't the only carrier in North America to do this, so it's not like they're the only one.
galaxy s3 has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 , no 1700. so it doesn't work with t-mobile 3g right now.
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Can you use the Samsung Galaxy SII on Tmobile..they are both gsm..if so...does it get 3g and 4g on tmo....i like the look and feel of the att version better than tmos....thanks
You will get voice, txt, and edge data but no 3g. TMo uses a different frequency band than att
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You will get voice, txt, and edge data but no 3g. TMo uses a different frequency band than att
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As tony said, everything works but you only get edge speeds. I know because I am on T-Mobile. Its fine for web browsing and such, but don't expect any HQ YouTube.
Wish i had 3g at least, could care less about 4g, because i like the ATT version the best of the sgs2's. I knew this would happen before i bought it though. Maybe the merger will go through?
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As tony said, everything works but you only get edge speeds. I know because I am on T-Mobile. Its fine for web browsing and such, but don't expect any HQ YouTube.
Wish i had 3g at least, could care less about 4g, because i like the ATT version the best of the sgs2's. I knew this would happen before i bought it though. Maybe the merger will go through?
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i know..i love the att version so much...stinks...i have tmo..
what happen if i get the unlocked gsm version of clove and other detailer overseas..
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb
will that one be able to get 3g action tmobile...
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i know..i love the att version so much...stinks...i have tmo..
what happen if i get the unlocked gsm version of clove and other detailer overseas..
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb
will that one be able to get 3g action tmobile...
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no i believe those come with at&T bands
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no i believe those come with at&T bands
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Just to expand on the others comments, that phone you mentioned has: Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band), whereas T-Mobile needs both 1700 and 2100. You need both because they use one for uploading and another for downloading.
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Ryukeima said:
Just to expand on the others comments, that phone you mentioned has: Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band), whereas T-Mobile needs both 1700 and 2100. You need both because they use one for uploading and another for downloading.
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Oh man. I figured i would give a shot...i really do love that phone. Good info.
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May I know the Xperia S lt26i be used in USA T-mobile with 3G / 3.5G? I wanna take mine to Hawaii...
2g only, Xperia S doesn't have the AWS band for tmobile
Thanks, dear. I will dig my Nexus S to use 3G then. Or..... use 2G only in my lovely Xperia S....
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Thanks, dear. I will dig my Nexus S to use 3G then. Or..... use 2G only in my lovely Xperia S....
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2g sucks. Realllly think about it.
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
Should work with 3g T Mobile.
I am currently using it with AT&T 3G........and it works perfectly.
Just had to set the APN settings manually.
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
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Should work with 3g T Mobile.
I am currently using it with AT&T 3G........and it works perfectly.
Just had to set the APN settings manually.
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T-Mobile USA uses AWS (1700/2100) Bands, the LT26i being sold everywhere so far (except somewhere in Japan for Docomo network) has 850/900/1900/2100 bands so it's impossible it will work on T-Mobile 3G. I read there were some small areas where T-Mobile was working with AT&T antennas for some iPhone users (some kind of roaming after the failed acquisition?, nothing confirmed) so that could be your only chance on getting 3G T-Mobile connection with this phone.
so what u try to say is that this xps version can work on at&t 3g network?
YES IT CAN, I got mine and yes you have to enter the APN manually. Mine went straight to hspa doesnt show ATT logo either, just eh H
AWESOMENESS!!!! I love this phone to date more than any other device, i had had my share from apple to droid
Jacksonville, Fl
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
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No it won't. It doesn't support 1700. Unlike most carriers (who operate on an either OR basis if they use multiple frequencies) T-Mobile US uses both 1700 and 2100 (one for uplink and one for downlink) for their 3G service. If it doesn't support both frequencies you will not get 3G service (as you will be missing either the uplink or the downlink). This device does not support 1700.
DOESN'T WORK ON TMO 3G. YOU WOULD ONLE PICK EDGE. AND IT DOES WORK ON AT&T I KNOW SO CAUSE I'M USING IT AND PICK UP H
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Speedtest results using at&t 3g
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i really like the XPERIA S but too bad it doesnt work with tmobile 3G... i guess my only chance is have my tmobile sim card in my current X10 to do hotspot to my XPERIA S for fone calls and everything...
still using tzone $5.99 grandfather plan for 3G speed... the fastest i get is about 5Mbps download
It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
Im not aware of any lt26a. The only north american Xperia S is the Xperia Ion which is not available yet.
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It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
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LT26a doesn't exist (so far)...
Alien987 said:
LT26a doesn't exist (so far)...
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Then there's nothing you can do until device is released... unless there's some LT26a firmware available somewhere already...
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It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
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You're also assuming that the *hardware* in that device (which doesn't even exist yet) supports 1700/2100 (which neither the LT26i or LT26a ever listed 1700 as a supported frequency).
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You're also assuming that the *hardware* in that device (which doesn't even exist yet) supports 1700/2100 (which neither the LT26i or LT26a ever listed 1700 as a supported frequency).
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Then it probably isn't intended for networks which use 1700 frequency.
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Then it probably isn't intended for networks which use 1700 frequency.
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Which is what this thread is about, a network that requires 1700 mhz for 3g service, and why it's unlikely to work by flashing a new baseband.
Anyone have test result for this yet? I missed out on the Nexus 4, but this seems slick as well and has LTE which could come in handy on Jan 2013 when Tmobile refarm their LTE
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Anyone have test result for this yet? I missed out on the Nexus 4, but this seems slick as well and has LTE which could come in handy on Jan 2013 when Tmobile refarm their LTE
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wont work with any other provider's LTE bands. Only HSPA
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wont work with any other provider's LTE bands. Only HSPA
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No HSPA for Tmobile only EDGE for the DNA because Tmobile has to use 1700Mhz instead of 1900Mhz for UMTS...AT&T will get HSPA
Yes it will work, BUT, only in a select few cities that T-Mobile has already switched to 1900mhz. So I'd check if your area has switched to 1900 first or you will be stuck on edge.
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Yes it will work, BUT, only in a select few cities that T-Mobile has already switched to 1900mhz. So I'd check if your area has switched to 1900 first or you will be stuck on edge.
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Is there a way to check?
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No HSPA for Tmobile only EDGE for the DNA because Tmobile has to use 1700Mhz instead of 1900Mhz for UMTS...AT&T will get HSPA
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This is just not true. My speeds aren't anything special but they're totally usable. I will try more areas as they're still only testing it here in Houston.
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jonathan3579 said:
This is just not true. My speeds aren't anything special but they're totally usable. I will try more areas as they're still only testing it here in Houston.
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I was using Solavei (MVNO of T-mobile) and in the video link below, you can see my SpeedTest.net test. From Houston as well, but towards the outskirts. My apt has about half the signal strength of surround areas for every carrier. Not a complete dead zone by far though.
http://youtu.be/Vy4VSxyXjIU?t=7m15s
There is another thread, just have to read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34474676&postcount=20
To check which places had the reframe already happen check this website airportal.de
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My secondary phone is a Galaxy Nexus with the $30 prepaid plan from T-Mobile. I live in the Mundelein / Vernon Hills area of Illinois. If I run speed test on my Nexus right now (doing it as I type this) I get the following download results:
T-Mobile Galaxy Nexus:
1st Test: 7.2Mbps
2nd Test: 6.1Mbps
3rd Test: 4.2Mbps the third time. Kind of afraid of running it a fourth time the way it's going. . .
4th Test: 5.8Mbps
If I put my SIM card on the DNA (actually shows a H logo which I'm guessing is for HSPA) here are my results:
T-Mobile Droid DNA
1st Test: 3.7Mbps
2nd Test: 5.0Mbps
3rd Test: 5.4Mbps
4th Test: 5.0Mbps
Just for fun here are my results with Verizon LTE:
1st Test: 3.7Mbps
2nd Test: 3.162Mbps
3rd Test: 2.8Mbps
4th Test: 7.2Mbps
Normally I do get much better LTE speeds than that but that's what I got today. Just for the record, at no point did I change any settings anywhere, I just switched the SIM cards.
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This is just not true. My speeds aren't anything special but they're totally usable. I will try more areas as they're still only testing it here in Houston.
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I was not aware they were switching to 1900 that is awesome, I might have stayed with unlimited Tmo that being the case...
"T-Mobile USA launched HSPA+ service in its 1900 MHz spectrum in 10 additional markets including Miami; Phoenix; San Francisco; Mesa and Tucson, Ariz.; Modesto, Oakland, San Jose and Stockton, Calif.; and Fort Lauderdale, Fla. The new markets bring T-Mobile's 1900 MHz HSPA+ footprint to 15 metro markets including the previously announced markets of Baltimore; Houston; Kansas City; Las Vegas and Washington D.C."
http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=87066&stc=1&d=1353552839
I saw these from a different forum. Yes, its a DNA. They are not my photos. They are from a T-Mobile 1900UMTS refarm thread.
credit:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1748046-T-Mobile-is-deploying-1900MHz-HSPA-4G/page122
Does this still work with a retail version? i know it worked on the pre-release models people had, but then again, so did bootloader unlock through HTCDev.
I'm in Houston and Verizon 4G LTE is the best
hehehe
hatyrei said:
hehehe
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Not only is your speed towards the lower end of VZW LTE speeds, it is totally irrelevant to this thread.
Thumbs up for you chap :good:
hatyrei said:
hehehe
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Someone doesn't know how to read...
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I saw these from a different forum. Yes, its a DNA. They are not my photos. They are from a T-Mobile 1900UMTS refarm thread.
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http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1748046-T-Mobile-is-deploying-1900MHz-HSPA-4G/page122
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my biggest problem with t-mobile wasn't speed, but building penetration. I work in a hospital and no one on t-mobile gets signal unless they are standing against an outside wall. Just doesn't cut it.
I just wish I could get MMS to work. I had it last night but the APN type changed back. Sigh...
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I just wish I could get MMS to work. I had it last night but the APN type changed back. Sigh...
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Yep... I got outgoing working by forcing the MMSC in GoSMS.
I actually know someone who can hard code the MMSC into an app for us if there is interest. Should send/receive and be JB AOSP based.
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Does this still work with a retail version? i know it worked on the pre-release models people had, but then again, so did bootloader unlock through HTCDev.
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Yes works on mine, I bought mine on Black Friday, and I was able to get on AT&T with it today.
Hi, I just purchased the DNA and registered it with the mobile. I am having trouble with the tower connections. I can only seem to get on EDGE GSM and some other really slow networks. I know the DNA supports the 1900and 2100mhz bands and t mobiles hspa 4G works only on 1700mhz. So if this is true, when is t - mobiles new 4G 1900mhz network coming to Toledo Ohio?
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Hi, I just purchased the DNA and registered it with the mobile. I am having trouble with the tower connections. I can only seem to get on EDGE GSM and some other really slow networks. I know the DNA supports the 1900and 2100mhz bands and t mobiles hspa 4G works only on 1700mhz. So if this is true, when is t - mobiles new 4G 1900mhz network coming to Toledo Ohio?
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it is true, and there is no way to know when they are going to light up the 1900 band in your area. You can see where the 1900 band currently is here. But for now have fun with 2g
Yea. Thanks man. I went to the t mobile store today and verfied the above. They said the new 1900mhz service will be up very soon. He said in march is when he thinks it will happen in Toledo and absolutely by June.agency
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Yea. Thanks man. I went to the t mobile store today and verfied the above. They said the new 1900mhz service will be up very soon. He said in march is when he thinks it will happen in Toledo and absolutely by June.agency
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Just so you know the guy in the store was just speculating. He knows nothing more than the general public knows.
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Here in Youngstown Ohio we got the 1900mhz activated =)
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Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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I know the Moto X has more bands for Tmobile's version vs. AT&T. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the LG G2 as well
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
this doesn't answer the OP's question, but, i have a sim unlocked att G2 and i can get 4G and 4G LTE service with my T-Mobile sim/account. coverage is not as good as at&t in my location.
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
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From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Hmm. So you have Tmo plan and the ATT model didn't get you any LTE at all?
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I have AT&T and im using the t-mobile G2
I get 100% LTE everywhere I go. no problems whatsoever. havnt seen my phone display anything lower than 4G (and 4G LTE)
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leony74 said:
I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Not sure of the truth to that. Verizon, T-mobile, and At&t all support LTE band 4 which is AWS 1700. It might be more likely a carrier lock that prevents you from getting full coverage?
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Sacrosaint said:
From Wikipedia:
D800ZNFD800AT&T850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801ZNFD801T-mobile850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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mrbungle999 said:
Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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I'm in AZ and actually purchased LG on day one that AT&T sold it. They did not want to sell out-right so I got a prepaid service and told them I would not activate until next month...Manager looked at me like I was a terrorist. Went outside and on my then GS4 went to an unlocker site and SIM UNLOCKED LG in about 25 mins. I tried two different APNs and one seems to be best as I have LTE mostly all over the valley!
SUMMERY
-Got phone before anyone else on TMObile
-Got phone at least $60+ cheaper W/taxes
-I can use the WIFI free hotspots of AT&T, always on the road...
-At work my LTE is 27-36mb down compared to 12on att co-workers, and Verizons 17MB on a different co-worker!
-At home my signal is a tiny bit spotty, oddly is only in my room ge 1-2 bars H+
kyler13 said:
LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Oh I totally forgot about the wifi thing...is that an ATT service that works with our ATT plan, or will it know I'm using a Tmo phone and not let me connect? Not a big deal since I have 2 GB and always come under each month but itd be nice to have.
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ergoautumn said:
Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Well, since t-mobile's 3g/umts is predominantly on the AWS 1700 band, utilizing a t-mobile SIM on the at&t model will result in sparse coverage for 3g, short of roaming. I understand t-mobile has built out some of their 3g on 1900 as well so that would work for you. Based off of frequency support, I would say the t-mobile version is the better one to unlock and potentially use between at&t and t-mobile networks. LTE band 5 support doesn't buy you anything domestically.
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Thank you everyone for your input . Guess Tmo it is.
Though...One wonders what their software support is like...I read that since they do wifi calling they're updates have to go through extra approval above and beyond the othercarriers because they have to deal with the FCC?
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ergoautumn said:
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
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Here in the Bahamas we don't have LTE yet, but we're planning on covering the same spectrum as AT&T, bands as well.
no AT&T LTE on T-mo G2
I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
kwcole1983 said:
I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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x714x said:
Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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Incorrect. T-Mobile devices support ALL AT&T and T-Mobile bands, except LTE Band 5 (used by AT&T in a few rural areas). What's wrong is AT&T turns off LTE for non-AT&T devices. You have to call them up and give them the IMEI # of an AT&T-branded device (even if it's not yours and even if your SIM isn't in it/you don't plan on using it). They don't check after that.