The Samsung Galaxy S III has a quad core processor, but the cores run at 1.4ghz instead of the Dual Core EVO Lte's 1.5ghz.
From what I'm reading, the EVO is still faster.
Has anyone seen any other numbers?
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.jond said:
The Samsung Galaxy S III has a quad core processor, but the cores run at 1.4ghz instead of the Dual Core EVO Lte's 1.5ghz.
From what I'm reading, the EVO is still faster.
Has anyone seen any other numbers?
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the quad core is only for the international version and possibly T-Mobile, the rest of the US carriers versions of the Galaxy SIII are getting the same Snapdragon S4 processor that is in the EVO 4G LTE as quad core processors are not yet compatible with LTE.
It appears that T-Mobile is going to be going LTE @ some point too, so i would assume that they will not use the quad core. Since the issue is that the quad core doesn't play well with LTE.
Will
By the time Tmobile gets LTE the GS III will be a thing of the past. Safe to say they'll be getting the quadcore
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Lol looks like their processors are equal
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It appears that T-Mobile is going to be going LTE @ some point too, so i would assume that they will not use the quad core. Since the issue is that the quad core doesn't play well with LTE.
Will
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They are going LTE, but not until mid 2013, but I would expect their Galaxy SIII to be compatible with their fake "4G" network, HSPA+
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They are going LTE, but not until mid 2013, but I would expect their Galaxy SIII to be compatible with their fake "4G" network, HSPA+
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Call it fake if you want but its faster then what WiMax is in my area.
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Call it fake if you want but its faster then what WiMax is in my area.
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This.
I would take my friend's 6-18Mb/s faux-G on T-Mo any day over my 2-13Mb/s WiMAX (which I can barely use indoors) or 0.2-1.8Mb/s 3G.
The quad-core is compatible with HSPA+, but it's still very possible that Samsung will release the same dual-core S4 phone for all the US. But either way, the first gen quad-core processor isn't much better (if better at all) than a perfected dual-core.
Kind of reminds me when the evo 3d came out with the msm8660..it was one of the first dual cored but was based on two a8 cores instead of newer a9s ..now I'm not saying my 3d is slow but it was a tick behind others like the exynos etc..prob be similiar in this case and I'd prefer two of the new than 4 of the old
Some impressive numbers nonetheless.
I wonder how the battery life is dual vs. quad.
Seems like a point of diminishing returns, with significant better battery life using dual core processing.
Time will tell.
So many factors go into battery life, and each has its benefits. You could take either side, highlight some of the benefits and generalize the comparison that one is certainly better. Then someone on the other side of the coin highlights the setbacks and discredits you with their own overly simplistic opinion.
All I know is this. The dual on the 3d underwhelmed me for the whole time I had it up until only recently. I threw on one of the leaked ICS/Sense3.6 roms (zr3dx) and all the sudden its like I'm using a whole different phone. Extremely snappy, great battery life etc... fast enough to make a lot of users consider holding off their upgrade.
Point is, regardless of your specs, processor, # of cores or whatever, if you actively follow the dev community and they manage to push a lesser spec device to its highest potential, you should feel safe that you'll be very happy with either device/processor. A year from now both of these phones will be superceded, but either device should see increased performance by that time thanks to devs.
Don't let the excitement of winning the quad vs. dual pissing contest seduce you, lol. But I'm sure much smarter people than me could qualify which one performs better overall, just offering my humble opinion.
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Until we get the phone in I can tell you that my Asus prime scores the same running it at 1.8ghz in quadrant. But I've been running linpack and seeing some people with the X One scoring a little lower and this is running at 1.6ghz. So I would have to say you would be happy to get either phone. I'm glad to get one with a kickstand and "unlimited" data.
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Am I the only one who can't wait to see how powerful these new Qualcomm chips are? I was kind of disappointed be the S3. Thankfully the S3 is.using quad A9 and not dual A15. Imo true dual A15, especially Samsung made will be awesome. Although a quad core krait chip and adreno 320 is what I'm really looking forward to. Will we have to wait till 2013 for the year of the superphone? All day + battery life with Xbox like graphics. Lol I just hope google/app developers can keep up. Nothing sucks more then not.being able to push the limits of.your hardware
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Ps3 graphics are better that is all.
Also ps2 better the Xbox
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Ps3 graphics are better that is all.
Also ps2 better the Xbox
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Wrong ..and psn can't touch live ..get what u pay 4
I avoid conflict by owning both haha
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Wrong ..and psn can't touch live ..get what u pay 4
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Lol k how are those DVDs on a hd tv lol or the extra money for your blueray player or if u have 3d tv there is more $ you had to spend. now the new Xbox might have a chance unless they bet on loosing tech again.
Besides I already pay for the internet why do I need to be able to pay to use it on my devices same concept as cell companies paying for hotspot if I have hotspot or not I could download huge files to my phone n transfer them
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I avoid conflict by owning both haha
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As do I, and while I enjoy the Xbox, the PS3 is the far superior system in every single way for me. (I don't use online gameplay features). Media consumption and pure gaming graphics, etc, PS3 is much better.
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As do I, and while I enjoy the Xbox, the PS3 is the far superior system in every single way for me. (I don't use online gameplay features). Media consumption and pure gaming graphics, etc, PS3 is much better.
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ill agree it is a superior system but i find myself on my xbox much more because of how much more social live is. the difference is apparent in a lot games but not enough to make me really miss it. for netflix and music i go to the ps3 thou
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So after trying to decide between the two for myself, I've decided to try to help other like-minded users find the phone that's best for them.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Media
DLNA Support for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Supported video, audio, and image formats are not known yet, but we can safely assume the standards are there.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda
Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
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EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Media:
DLNA for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Audio supported formats:
Playback: .AAC, .AMR, .OGG, .M4A, .MID, .MP3, .WAV, .WMA (Windows Media Audio 9)
Recording: .AMR
Video supported formats:
Playback:.3GP, .3G2, .MP4, .WMV (Windows Media Video 9), .AVI (MP4 ASP and MP3), .XVID (MP4 ASP and MP3)
Recording: .3GP
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
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Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
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They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
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Thanks! I already knew all of this, but it'll help some people here for sure.
Also, the Nexus S has a contour display, which you didn't mention.
Oh right, thanks! I'll add that in for sure. Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you thought it was helpful Even if not for you.
I like how this was titled, Idiot's Guide.....for idiots.
No way lmao.
Haha, thanks man.
I'm in no way an expert, I'm a slightly above-average user when it comes to knowledge of hardware and software. I'm just compiling info that I dug around for myself and ask tons of questions on --- and I'm putting it in (hopefully) layman's terms.
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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I'd say so, yes.
The hardware is newer than the EVO (though still ~6 months+ old at this point).
The display also is much better
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Evo is only TFT and supports 16,000 colors. Nexus S is wvga super amoled and supports 16,000,000 colors LOL.
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Not to mention the Software upgrades you'll get with the Nexus. And that's just stock software. Devs will be all over optimizing the software.
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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gmap516 said:
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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No please don't.
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No please don't.
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Noted. Thanks for the feedback.
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Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I quoted this and added it to the third post. Thanks bud!
gmap516 said:
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Yeah just direct them to the vid it shows all they need to know since qhd and retina are pretty much the same. LOL
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
I am sick of it too! Everything is compared to Iphone, iphone is lame. Maybe its good for people who dont know any better, lol.
I took a long look at nexus s, it may be a bit better than evo 1st gen but I dont care for the look of it. The plastic back, reminds me of the Epic, feels cheap in the hand
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Being that this is an idiot's guide for idiots, you'll have to explain that to me and put it in layman's terms. I know what a GPU is, but not what the Adreno 220
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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The truth indeed.
I thought the question would've been posed already. To be honest i'm thinking the GS2 will be faster than the Galaxy Nexus with ICS. What do you owners of the GS2 think? Anyone jumping ship?
Doesn't the galaxy nexus have hardware acceleration built into the UI?
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I weighed this decision heavily for a few days before getting my SGS2.
The Nexus has a weaker GPU, no MicroSD slot, and a 720p screen, but it's a pentile screen. More info on that that means: http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-vs-real-stripe-amoled-displays-whats-different/1868/
It will also likely cost more, even on contract, but that's my speculation.
Ultimately, I wasn't willing to lose storage expansion and GPU power to gain higher resolution. The usable area of the screen isn't bigger because of the onscreen home keys.
Plus, we have MikeyMike01's ROM here.
SGS2, like the Captivate before it, just seems like the sweet spot.
Robstunner the galaxy nexus has hardware acceleration with ics. As much as the gn will be awesome besides the larger qhd screen I am probably going to stuck with the sgs2 as the specs compared to the gn is not that much different to warrant the change over. Just my opinion.
Hth,
Charlie
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
Read that about the pixel per inch controversy.
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Yea I'm sticking with my sgs2...
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I'm glad to see everyone is excited about their GS2. You guys are making my decision easy. I have a Sensation and i'm on tmobile but I'm going to terminate early. Thank God for the prorating of the early termination
GN is kinda meh... This nexus is blah this time around. 720p screen is nice but me personally, if i need a screen to watch something, I'll watch it on my 52" 1080p lcd, thank you.
I'll stay with my "superphone" the sgs2.
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Not for Galaxy nexus. IPHONE 5/6 maybe but have to be at least 4.3" screen.
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I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
The GS2 has sold 10 million units. Guess who will have the most ROMs....
Ill get it if its made of metal and has a nicely contoured back. As much as I like this phone I hate Samsung plastic and flat backs. Imo my inspire was perfect ergonomically
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I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
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*Takes in a long breath*
You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
dont forget the 5mp cam too
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You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
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I'm going to have to disagree on all accounts. iOS is NOT heavily customizable and it is far from the best device created. I will agree that it is the easiest phone to use but that is about it.
Changing wallpaper is not my idea of customization. I know you can hack the crap out of the iphone and do a bunch of stuff after a jailbreak but its no android phone. I don't agree that iphone excels at music/media playback and that is the iPhone not third party applications. Yea you can sync with itunes (which is crap) and your videos are converted and transferred automatically, which again leads to it being the simipliest device, but that does not make it a multimedia powerhouse. Android devices come with HDMI out (not the SGS2).
Basically the iPhone has its place but its not with techies. Its a great "dumb" phone but not the best and it may never be. That is up to Apple.
I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... okay, that's better
I agree the music implementation in android is great. I like what Samsung has done with the player controls on the lock screen and notification shade. I use Pandora mostly, and its the same on both. I always felt one of the best commercials for android would have been: "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have iTunes ... you're welcome." I was excited to stop the weekly 80MB iTunes updates when I got my Captivate. Joyous beyond measure I could drag and drop my music and movies myself. Plus, I can share everything I have with others without having to get floola, or iTunes, just send it or plug in.
But, I have never purchased an iProduct before or since my iPhone. I was a Zune user, and loved letting my iPod owning friends play with it, waiting for them to drop their jaw and comment on built in FM, WiFi, twice the screen size, and a user interface that a newbie can use. When I used their ipods I always gave up trying to navigate those menus.
Back to the task at hand ... yes Galaxy Nexus is a hardware dissapointment. I liken it to the iPhone 4S "upgrade" that took 16 months to come out. Like the iPhone event was really about Siri, the Nexus event was really about ICS. I think we'll have all the ICS goodness soon.
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To each their own I guess... just voicing my opinion. Android is a stronger platform than iOS with more functionality and tweakability, but iOS does work easier and in some places better I think. I'm not hating on one or the other, just stating my opinion. I really wish the music app in android was handled better. I miss my genius playlist abilities and smart shuffle.
re: Compare
Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to
our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
Also you will find that even though the Samsung Galaxy Nexus has higher
resolution and a larger screen than our SGS2 has, if you put the two side
by side our Samsung SGS2 has noticeably larger default text fonts making
it by far easier to read.
I know we can change the text font sizes, however most if not all the apps
and games available for our phones are designed to use the default fonts
not only performance, but also for the very best appearance that's possible.
Not only is the text larger on our phones but anything and everything on the
screen is larger.
As far as game play goes, most games are designed to look and work best in a
more standardized resolution like our phones have.
Just my personal opinion
I thought the topic was gn vs gs2? Where is apple in there?
I was drooling watching the nexus event but the truth is my gs2 should run ics without issue and hopefully we aren't waiting too long for official ics update.
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Misterjunky said:
Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
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after seeing the unveiling, these were the exact things i was thinking of... a "worse" camera, and the same specs under the hood... pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
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http://eee.asus.com/global/event/2012/mwc/launch/
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-300/features/
Networking Wifi/3G/4G LTE
Data rate:
a. 3G SKU: HSPA+ 21/5.76 Mbps
b. 4G LTE SKU: 100/50 Mbps
That's interesting. I didn't know Asus was releasing 3G/4G version for Transformer Pad 300....
Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version.
And that blue one is really uglly....
It's a shame.. this is what PRIME should have been (at least to me.. not the TF700)
I still don't understand the 1.2ghz Tegra 3 ...
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Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version.
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Could be timing, if they're planning on releasing the TF700 much sooner than the TF300. If I'm not mistaken, the Tegra 3-compatible LTE chip has just been announced and might not be available for awhile.
Of course, that would argue for the TF700 being released much sooner than expected. Hmmm...
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Could be timing, if they're planning on releasing the TF700 much sooner than the TF300. If I'm not mistaken, the Tegra 3-compatible LTE chip has just been announced and might not be available for awhile.
Of course, that would argue for the TF700 being released much sooner than expected. Hmmm...
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You know what else is interesting.. their insistence on "FIRST"...
Wonder how they'll change the slogan if Apple releases 4G version of iPad 3 with its crazy retina resolution next month....
I'm also guessing "Transformer Pad," being more descriptive, gets them out of hot water with Hasbro.
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I'm also guessing "Transformer Pad," being more descriptive, gets them out of hot water with Hasbro.
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Did they rename Transformer Prime to Transformer Pad?
Just saw it
And I HATE them for displaying the back cover I want for my Prime, LOL. The Infinity IS the TF700 by the way (I know YOU know it Barry) but boy, my kingdom for a strip of plastic, not that they made it with the Brushed Look (and yes I can see the volume rocker or whatever up top, but that is on the bezel... seems like it just might work!
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Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version.
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The Tegra 3 is not compatible with USA LTE networks for some reason. And the 1.2 Ghz bit is probably for Tegra 3's that are not full quality - I believe Intel used to play that with Processors that would get too hot at full speeds for some manufacturing reason.
No GPS ? WTF?
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Did they rename Transformer Prime to Transformer Pad?
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not really. its actually now called the "Transformer Pad Prime". the other thread that has Asus MWC showcase video has it listed in his power point presentation. ill post it here in a sec so people can see for "Factual" reasons
here is the video:
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rdalev said:
No GPS ? WTF?
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I guess they got tired of the complaining n said? !#&? it. lmfao they won't get any GPS at all in new models. smart move on their part. so they don't have to deal with it all. plus its not. spec requirement and will hardly influence sales in grand scheme of things. it isn't even listed on their official website as a spec.
it does have Bluetooth 4.0LE though time to use phone as external Gps receiver or use a BT GPS receiver. using phone as a GPS receiver on prime works great. so of there's no GPS in it, then it will never be proven if GPS was improved in this model. I think the strip is really for the LTE connection and nothing more really. no recent references to strip being used to improving wifi. I wonder if wifi version has that strip there also. will need to see side by side pix of LTE and wifi version side by side to compare.
just checked both models out again. the Tf-300 and Tf-700 doesn't have GPS at all. not listed on their spec page. the irony..lol. I bet anything that if there wasn't such an outrage over GPS they would've included GPS in these new models. So now Asus making sure there can be no complaint at all about it in the new models. at least its a good guess to say the Padaphone will have GPS since its a phone and had data connection to it. Asus playing smart. Makes even more sense now Prime line won't be discontinued. there is no new model to improve on GPS. so prime will be only model that still has GPS. whether it works up to some peoples requirements or not.
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Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version. I still don't understand the 1.2ghz Tegra 3 ...
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simple, asus wants performance and features to increase correspondingly with price. so the stacking of models from slowest/cheapest to fastest/priciest will go like this:
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz + 3G/LTE
TF700 Tegra3 @ 1.6ghz
TF700 Krait @ 1.5ghz + 3G/LTE
for the krait vs. tegra3 speculators, i doubt asus would make this decision if they hadn't already verified internally that krait @ 1.5ghz is outperforming tegra3 @ 1.6ghz.
jaypm said:
simple, asus wants performance and features to increase correspondingly with price. so the stacking of models from slowest/cheapest to fastest/priciest will go like this:
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz + 3G/LTE
TF700 Tegra3 @ 1.6ghz
TF700 Krait @ 1.5ghz + 3G/LTE
for the krait vs. tegra3 speculators, i doubt asus would make this decision if they hadn't already verified internally that krait @ 1.5ghz is outperforming tegra3 @ 1.6ghz.
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True, but if you compare Prime and Pad 300... It doesn't make sense at all to me. From 1.3 ghz to 1.2ghz... (& I'm sorry Demandrin.. but extra 100mhz simply does not make Prime PREMIUM)
Anyways, I finally saw the whole video. Johny Shih is certainly a character but absolutely annoying...
I do find it interesting that he was marketing snapdragon s4 as the "MOST ADVANCED" when he was introducing TF700 Infinity & the Padphone. Hardly any mention of Tegra 3... (the whole Asus is or will be the 1st also got on my nerves).
But yea, Padphone is certainly interesting & innovative. However, I wonder what the market will be for this product... Just think about the cost that'll come with Padphone... phone + tablet shell/case + dock + stylus pen.... Not only that but the annoyance that'll come with carrying multiple device
If Padphone were to be released to business sector, I certainly see a huge profit potential for Asus.. but last I checked, Asus hardly has any market share in that area... On top of that, if Asus inserts native support of Canonical's recently announced Ubuntu...
Oh well, either way.. I wonder how it'll do with avg. consumers... feels like it'll be more or less gimmick or collectors item.
shinzz said:
True, but if you compare Prime and Pad 300... It doesn't make sense at all to me. From 1.3 ghz to 1.2ghz... (& I'm sorry Demandrin.. but extra 100mhz simply does not make Prime PREMIUM)
Anyways, I finally saw the whole video. Johny Shih is certainly a character but absolutely annoying...
I do find it interesting that he was marketing snapdragon s4 as the "MOST ADVANCED" when he was introducing TF700 Infinity & the Padphone. Hardly any mention of Tegra 3... (the whole Asus is or will be the 1st also got on my nerves).
But yea, Padphone is certainly interesting & innovative. However, I wonder what the market will be for this product... Just think about the cost that'll come with Padphone... phone + tablet shell/case + dock + stylus pen.... Not only that but the annoyance that'll come with carrying multiple device
If Padphone were to be released to business sector, I certainly see a huge profit potential for Asus.. but last I checked, Asus hardly has any market share in that area... On top of that, if Asus inserts native support of Canonical's recently announced Ubuntu...
Oh well, either way.. I wonder how it'll do with avg. consumers... feels like it'll be more or less gimmick or collectors item.
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what makes prime Premium is the:
1)slimmer and lighter form factor
2)higher quality display with "SuperIPS+" being the brightest in industry
3)more out the box storage memory starting @ 32gb & 64gb
4)Flash to accompany its cam. will make a huge difference in taking pictures or videos in low or no light. plenty of people using the cam on it as it has the best in industry cam also. other models have cam also but the 300 has no flash
5)better battery life and out the box higher clocked speeds. Out of all models. the Prime actually has the best/longest tablet battery life and combined dock life. remember xda users are a grain of salt compared to total sales. avg. consumer will see higher spec, and if interested, will go for the higher one if they choose to spend the money. that's the great thing about choice.
regardless, all their new models look great. very ironic how they removed GPS from spec from both new models. not even listed on official spec page. they washed their hands of GPS not to deal with it, I guess. padaphone will likely have though.
oh, and its not just any old Stylus. this is a stylus headset. a first in mobile tech. you can answer the phone with stylus since it has a built in mic and earpiece reciever.
Ill say this though, in hope for people who like GPS. if Asus does include GPS as a "surprise bonus feature" feel lucky. but since no trace of it at all in specs, its nothing that can be sent in for warranty service since its not even a listed feature out the gate. lets hope if they do include it, although its not listed, it works well. cause of it doesn't, you're basically out back. so cross your fingers n hope they include it as a surprise bonus feature
So, just to be clear, the "Infinity" is for sure the TF700?
Rogue100 said:
So, just to be clear, the "Infinity" is for sure the TF700?
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yes but its more like a new line of products. HD line with higher resolution. its still the TF-700 over anything. Prime is now called The "Transformer Pad Prime".
I think they'll include it (not list it mind you) and it will work mostly fine. But they're not about to test these any more rigorously or anything, they'll keep it off the spec sheet, "rush" the products out after a delay (oxymorons are awesome), and then not have to worry about cleaning up when some of them still experience issues.
Pretty much like you said, but I'm not too optimistic so I'm just going to lean this one way.
buxtahuda said:
I think they'll include it (not list it mind you) and it will work mostly fine. But they're not about to test these any more rigorously or anything, they'll keep it off the spec sheet, "rush" the products out after a delay (oxymorons are awesome), and then not have to worry about cleaning up when some of them still experience issues.
Pretty much like you said, but I'm not too optimistic so I'm just going to lean this one way.
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that made me laugh but really is a possibility. I hope it turns out good. I can't get over that 3-1 padaphone with the stylus headset that can answer phone calls. I see why they won Best Innovation of the year award. I'm really interested in it but wonder the cost of all of it. will the phone at least come with tablet display? or will everything have to be purchased separately? if separately, they really about to cake it up. I easily see this phone being a success. especially being the worlds first quad core LTE phone. the tegra3 in that device screams power!
First post and I can't post the link but netbooknews.com has a hands on vid with the 300 at MWC and gets a shot of the specs list
if you look at the vid at 0:32 he zooms in on the specs sheet. You can see that it says GPS is supported. I'm sure it's the same for the 700 as well.
demandarin said:
that made me laugh but really is a possibility. I hope it turns out good. I can't get over that 3-1 padaphone with the stylus headset that can answer phone calls. I see why they won Best Innovation of the year award. I'm really interested in it but wonder the cost of all of it. will the phone at least come with tablet display? or will everything have to be purchased separately? if separately, they really about to cake it up. I easily see this phone being a success. especially being the worlds first quad core LTE phone. the tegra3 in that device screams power!
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Seriously.. what are you reading or where are you getting your information? Even in the video that you linked me, Johny Shih mentions nothing about Tegra 3 with Padfone...
Padfone comes with Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 8260A Dual-Core 1.5 GHz
If you don't believe me.. here is the link to Asus:
http://www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone/#specifications
Anyways, it's def. creative and innovative device. However, I just don't see a huge market for it because.. well..
1.) Price...
2.) Will be up against Galaxy Note... it'll be interesting how it does against Galaxy Note due to...
3.) Form factor.. it's cool that it has 3 "transformation" but that also means it'll be just as annoying when Galaxy Note simply provides "all-in-one" device.
shinzz said:
Seriously.. what are you reading or where are you getting your information? Even in the video that you linked me, Johny Shih mentions nothing about Tegra 3 with Padfone...
Padfone comes with Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 8260A Dual-Core 1.5 GHz
If you don't believe me.. here is the link to Asus:
http://www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone/#specifications
Anyways, it's def. creative and innovative device. However, I just don't see a huge market for it because.. well..
1.) Price...
2.) Will be up against Galaxy Note... it'll be interesting how it does against Galaxy Note due to...
3.) Form factor.. it's cool that it has 3 "transformation" but that also means it'll be just as annoying when Galaxy Note simply provides "all-in-one" device.
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you right on that...chalk it up as a typo. a powerful device regardless.
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First post and I can't post the link but netbooknews.com has a hands on vid with the 300 at MWC and gets a shot of the specs list
if you look at the vid at 0:32 he zooms in on the specs sheet. You can see that it says GPS is supported. I'm sure it's the same for the 700 as well.
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even if true, thing is Asus own official site doesn't list it. so Asus own spec sheet on their web site trumps anyother spec sheet.
demandarin said:
I guess they got tired of the complaining n said? !#&? it. lmfao they won't get any GPS at all in new models. smart move on their part. so they don't have to deal with it all. plus its not. spec requirement and will hardly influence sales in grand scheme of things. it isn't even listed on their official website as a spec.
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Smart move? No, it is a p**** move to leave out GPS. It's the easy route to get out of giving the most basic functionality even the cheapest most pathetic low end smart phones have - and tablets mind you. They are so advanced.. and fail at GPS.
If anything, no GPS is pathetic. It is f***** 2012, are you kidding?
Other aluminum back phones and tablets are coming, they solved it. In my book, you loose a lot of credability to talk all this smack about how great and advanced you are as a company... and leave off & hide from basic years old technology. If they can't "deal with it" I question a lot about who they are and what they are capable of.
So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
Zori said:
So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
rpwhite3 said:
thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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It's a new feature of the sgs3. It's a cool, novel feature I suppose. Maybe if you're playing a game and wanna watch a video of someone else doing it or something. But I'm more impressed with how well it did it all at once!
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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click the link and you'll see. lol
thats honestly kinda cool there...not sure how often id use it but it brings PIP back in play but now on mobile phones.....though I hate TouchWiz with a passion so no way im going that route...
whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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Agreed. At least for mobile phones... Could have some usage on tablets like taking a timed class and watching a video to pass the time.
The 24nm Krait S4 Snapdragon is a very capable chip. It should have no problems doing what you're video is doing or even running 2 HD movies simultaneously while running background tasks all simultaneously even on a screen as demanding as the new Evo's.
Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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You sir are correct, apologies for the typo. The Krait s4 snapdragons are indeed 28nm.
I have no doubt the EVO 4G LTE could do this, and probably the galaxy s2 as well. What I really don't know is why you would need or want to do this other than to showoff.
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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You could write notes, respond to a text, make an appointment, send an email, etc, without having to pause and back out of the video you are watching.
I think its far from pointless. People seem to assign the words "pointless" "useless" and "gimmick" to any feature that doesn't fit their personal lifestyle. Keep an open mind
Samsung says this is something new and groundbreaking that just came out with. BS!!! There is already an app in the Play Store that can do this on the phone in your hand right now. Check out app developers MBFG, I believe they may even be a XDA member. They have an app called OverSkreen that allows you to have a webpage on top of any other screen on your device. I use OverSkreen on my tablet and love it! They have another app that plays videos on top of any other screen just like the Galaxy S3, it's called Stick It! (and yes the "!" is part of the app's name, lol). Check it out. Funny Samsung lies saying how they created the idea an that the GS3 is the only phone that can do this, when in fact any Android phone with the app Stick It!! can do it!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.stickit
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
ltracte said:
The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Check out my post above the one you quoted. I mentioned that app as well, but commenting because you should also try out the web browser I aso mentioned. It's by the same dev as the floating video app. OverSkreen is the browsers name and it's awesome!!
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typhoonikan said:
Back to the topic at hand...
Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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PsiPhiDan said:
Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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After custom rom kernel whatevers, sure. Out of the box, might not be able to. Dunno yet
I can Skype and surf the web!
freeza said:
What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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my first thanks! welcome!
Anyone else wonder why they released this as the LTE when there really isn't any LTE, and the majority of people won't get LTE for a long time? Just don't get why they didn't bang it out as the quad core version. Then two years from now when LTE actually becomes available to the masses, and they figure out how to make 4 cores and LTE work together....release the mack daddy?
Are you really asking why they didn't hold off on releasing a phone for 2 years? lol I'd never buy stock in your company.
And LTE is already becoming available in some areas.
With that said, people without LTE coverage can still enjoy a pretty badass phone even without LTE. Do you think they'd sell it for less if they removed the LTE antennas, or something?
If you don't like the phone because it has LTE technology that you can't use yet, don't buy it. I hear the iPhone is great for people who have no desire for advanced technology.
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Would have made more sense to release the dual core world wide but my guess is the tegra is significantly cheaper.
Also some people already have lte unofficially and millions will have it within a few months based on the roll out schedules.
Mathman85 said:
Are you really asking why they didn't hold off on releasing a phone for 2 years? lol I'd never buy stock in your company.
And LTE is already becoming available in some areas.
With that said, people without LTE coverage can still enjoy a pretty badass phone even without LTE. Do you think they'd sell it for less if they removed the LTE antennas, or something?
If you don't like the phone because it has LTE technology that you can't use yet, don't buy it. I hear the iPhone is great for people who have no desire for advanced technology.
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Settle down, take a breath. No need to get all butt hurt. Its definitely a great phone. But I won't see LTE for a long time. Like quite a lot of others. So a quad core would have been a way bigger hit. Then when LTE was out to MAJORITY of the market and they had time to figure out quad and LTE comparability....bang, they're all dead. Btw I had an iPhone...I know better.
You don't really need it quad core is not well develop yet just like duel core last year suck till ICS, just look at the pocket now review of the GS3, is exynos which is one of the best processor and it seems like Samsung rush it out, but to each their own, I'm happy with this duel core
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Good point.^
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/06/04/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-initial-benchmarks-and-hands-on-impressions/
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EVO LTE test same thing I've out scored on quadrant highest was 5120 and test on smartbench there is slight difference I just ran it 4 times
Edit: trivial benches don't make or break anything so its just a thought the extra gig is nice though still have no major issues on my EVO LTE so I'm sticking with my UK s3 pre order as well ..
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I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
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Next year? Nah... Its been done already
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I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
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Yeah the MSM8960 3D edition is a quadcore S4 processor with a 3D chip built in... It was announced in February
and thanks to the architecture it runs cool as ice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9hQD6ddhDw
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Anyone else wonder why they released this as the LTE when there really isn't any LTE, and the majority of people won't get LTE for a long time? Just don't get why they didn't bang it out as the quad core version. Then two years from now when LTE actually becomes available to the masses, and they figure out how to make 4 cores and LTE work together....release the mack daddy?
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I'll have LTE in the second half of the year, which is coming up soon. Just saying...
Why would they put a WiMax chip in the phone?
The device would have to be thicker to accommodate a radio that is not integrated into the chipset.
WiMax radios are worse on battery than LTE radios.
WiMAx isn't being expanded and will be unsupported by the EOL on the phone. Bringing in another WiMax device would mean they have to maintain the network longer - remember that its not only you that enters a contract, but Sprint as well - they have to maintain their network for use.
You could say QuadCore and 3G only - but really? Come on? A non 4g super phone? that would be insane.
I would also assume that our purchase of the device helps fund the roll out to an extent.
I think you will be surprised how fast you get 4G - if your like me, you probably won't get it while you are on this device because I change to often, but it will come and it will come quickly.
I know I'll have LTE before I'm done with this device, and if this thing is this nice now, when I upgrade again in June next year I'll be blown away!
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I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
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If that's the case my EVO LTE won't get too hot right wrong you push any phone it will get hot infact it gets as hot as the epic touch some points for no good reason as well but besides that point .
Both are good but it seems there's some sort of odd anger still brewing over who's is better faster etc who gives a crap u want a quad get it u want dual get it but these things u speak of are tested via Qualcomm if I remember correctly the e3d adreno 220 on paper beat the sgs2 when qualcomm did the testing we all know what happened after that ..
I'm not choosing quad or dual I may go phone crazy and get both idk but what I do know is they both beat the crap out everything else out there screw tech data I can spew that too real world they both ate great buys great phones
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If that's the case my EVO LTE won't get too hot right wrong you push any phone it will get hot infact it gets as hot as the epic touch some points for no good reason as well but besides that point .
Both are good but it seems there's some sort of odd anger still brewing over who's is better faster etc who gives a crap u want a quad get it u want dual get it but these things u speak of are tested via Qualcomm if I remember correctly the e3d adreno 220 on paper beat the sgs2 when qualcomm did the testing we all know what happened after that ..
I'm not choosing quad or dual I may go phone crazy and get both idk but what I do know is they both beat the crap out everything else out there screw tech data I can spew that too real world they both ate great buys great phones
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Well of course anything you use that's electronic is bound to get hot over an extended time with use.
When I wrote this, I started remembering when the first round of Xbox 360s came around, and the processor was (correct me if I'm wrong) 40nm, and because it got so damn hot, and nothing to help cool it down, the failure rate on the first Xboxes was through the roof. When they later cut the chip down to the 32nm size, and installed some more ventilation, the chip never got nearly as hot, and the failure rate went down.
This isn't saying that are phones are Xbox 360s (give it a few more years, and I'm sure we may be able to play those types of games on here ), but going from a bigger to smaller processor, overall the chip shouldn't get nearly as hot as the quad core.
YMMV of course. This is probably aimed more at the person whose getting around 2 1/2+ days on their phone right now.
Edit: This was to roughly show the difference in the chip by size and design. I love that ours are smaller and more efficient, and I wouldn't care if they did have quad core on here instead. Cause....
This phone is the TRUE SUCCESSOR to our beloved OG and I'm glad we got it in our hands finally! Regardless of what processor we have inside
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Well of course anything you use that's electronic is bound to get hot over an extended time with use.
When I wrote this, I started remembering when the first round of Xbox 360s came around, and the processor was (correct me if I'm wrong) 40nm, and because it got so damn hot, and nothing to help cool it down, the failure rate on the first Xboxes was through the roof. When they later cut the chip down to the 32nm size, and installed some more ventilation, the chip never got nearly as hot, and the failure rate went down.
This isn't saying that are phones are Xbox 360s (give it a few more years, and I'm sure we may be able to play those types of games on here), but going from a bigger to smaller processor, overall the chip shouldn't get nearly as hot as the quad core.
YMMV of course. This is probably aimed more at the person whose getting around 2 1/2+ days on their phone right now.
Edit: This was to roughly show the difference in the chip by size and design. I love that ours are smaller and more efficient, and I wouldn't care if they did have quad core on here instead. Cause....
This phone is the TRUE SUCCESSOR to our beloved OG and I'm glad we got it in our hands finally! Regardless of what processor we have inside
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I agree I gotta not smoke when I get up anymore haha they are both great here's my issue .
I don't need a new phone I want one but not on contract I have several on contract now EVO.LTE being one sgs2 the other and my brother's two I pay all of them so I know my sister is getting the sgs3 us I'm leaning international just to give it a shot if I don't like it try to swap it for the us one while she's sleeping or something lol ..
But really I think they all are great none of you or myself are wrong going with any of these things I think as said in other threads android on android hate is hot right now thanks htc and Sammy lol ..
Xbox well I went through two first gen 360s before I gave up for a year and got a great gaming pc
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alchemist316 said:
I agree I gotta not smoke when I get up anymore haha they are both great here's my issue .
I don't need a new phone I want one but not on contract I have several on contract now EVO.LTE being one sgs2 the other and my brother's two I pay all of them so I know my sister is getting the sgs3 us I'm leaning international just to give it a shot if I don't like it try to swap it for the us one while she's sleeping or something lol ..
But really I think they all are great none of you or myself are wrong going with any of these things I think as said in other threads android on android hate is hot right now thanks htc and Sammy lol ..
Xbox well I went through two first gen 360s before I gave up for a year and got a great gaming pc
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Lmao.
Yea I understand. I wasn't picking favorites between the two, I'd be more than happy to have the quad, but then there would be no LTE once Sprint rolls it out. So with LTE in mind, thats why we received the dual core because it works with it. Plus its smaller and just as fast and as long as its a major upgrade from the OG, its money well spent.
I do agree that the Android on Android hate should calm down esp now that we (all of Android) are being shafted by Apple. Hopefully over the next couple of years, Android OEMs will sort of form an alliance to protect themselves from Apple, like the move Google did by giving HTC some patents to use. The more we attack each other, the more divided we will become, and the easier it will be for Apple to sue for stupid crap and ultimately win.
I wish I could get a gaming PC, but its just a lot of money for me, and the plus side of the 360, like most consoles, is that the games will be playable without any hardware upgrades for years. Yea it won't look nearly as good, or play faster, but it works and that's enough for me
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IDK, maybe just skeptical because I never seen any wimax. Crap, my state barely seen it. We have a tiny little spec on the map.
Here is the correct answer to your question. If they had not made the phone LTE capable you would have had an outrage of people complaining that the phone isn't "future proof" and cant run on LTE when it come to their area. "how can it be a flagship phone if it even can't connect to the new networks?" That would have been all over the forums. Also, apps and the system alone doesn't utilize quad core processor efficiently if at all. Just like quad core computers have been around for a looong time, it took even longer for programs to utilize quad cores, and most of the programs you use every day on a pc aren't even touching the other two cores (assuming you have a quad core pc). This is why the benchmarks are equal (if not better) on the S4 vs Exynos quad because the apps/system isn't designed to take advantage.
Having the transformer prime with the Tegra3 I have to say I'm a tad disappointed.
It has been at least somewhat proven that the s4 is superior in many bench mark tests. And this chip is based off of a newer more efficient platform.
Really just do yourself a favor and imagine that the lte has 4 core.
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I don't know why people are so eager to get a quad-core processor in their phone. The software barely takes advantage of two cores so there would be very little gain to adding two more.