So I have a Panasonic GH2 that I use to shoot short films and music videos, and have been looking into getting an external monitor for it to see more details in the while I'm shooting, but since the Prime has an mini HDMI port, is it possible that I can just use that? The GH2 has an hdmi output (micro I think) and there has been some developers hacking it so external monitors can be used. Since I have under 8 posts, I can't post a link to it just yet.
Also, I know it wasn't possible with the first Transformer, but since the Prime has a quad core processor and has proven it can handle HD video with some demo's we've seen, would it be able to handle and playback raw footage from the camera straight from an SD card? The GH2 produces is AVCHD 1080p, it shows up on computers as .MTS files If that helps.
If all this worked, this would make the Prime even more of a bargain. Being able to view footage on a 10 inch screen and then even show it to actors and crew right after would add a ton of convenience.
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So I have a Panasonic GH2 that I use to shoot short films and music videos, and have been looking into getting an external monitor for it to see more details in the while I'm shooting, but since the Prime has an mini HDMI port, is it possible that I can just use that? The GH2 has an hdmi output (micro I think) and there has been some developers hacking it so external monitors can be used. Since I have under 8 posts, I can't post a link to it just yet.
Also, I know it wasn't possible with the first Transformer, but since the Prime has a quad core processor and has proven it can handle HD video with some demo's we've seen, would it be able to handle and playback raw footage from the camera straight from an SD card? The GH2 produces is AVCHD 1080p, it shows up on computers as .MTS files If that helps.
If all this worked, this would make the Prime even more of a bargain. Being able to view footage on a 10 inch screen and then even show it to actors and crew right after would add a ton of convenience.
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I don't think it's a matter of the CPU being able to handle the load, but rather, whether or not the system is built to accept incoming video signal, which I'm pretty sure it can't.
I see, and there would be no way possible a modification or hack such as Cyanogenmod would allow it to accept incoming video signal? Or even have an app designed to do that function?
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I see, and there would be no way possible a modification or hack such as Cyanogenmod would allow it to accept incoming video signal? Or even have an app designed to do that function?
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There was an app a few months ago, that was made for the iOS that let you extend to an iPad/phone and was mentioned to be ported to Android as well. But I can't remember the name.
However you could only interface via a computer, essentially reverse-remote desktop. I'll do some digging when I get back from class.
Sorry if I am not answering your question directly (at least not for your specific video camera), but you reminded me of an alternative that I will definitely explore if/when I have my own Android device i.e. DSLR Controller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxvFYza6Y4
In this case, the software takes advantage of Canon DSLR cameras and a USB connection to 'view' (and control) the camera remotely.
This guy used a Toshiba Thrive tablet (rather than an Android phone) to test and comment on it:
http://androidandme.com/2011/08/applications/dslr-controller-brings-live-view-canon-shooting-via-usb/
Now THAT is kinda neat.
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I have not sold my old Galaxy Tab 7 yet and I already have my shiny, new and rooted Tablet S.
I keep my movies on my networked media tank on my LAN and I stream movies to my tablets over the network within the house.
I managed to load the cifs.ko module and mount the network media player on both units. I use BS Player Lite on both units (although I have also tried mobo player and mx player on the Tablet S).
So here is my question: The Galaxy Tab is able to play even 1080p mkv's without breaking sweat, basically anything I can throw at it, whereas the Tablet S struggles with some of the 720p mkv's and cannot even start the 1080p ones without freezing. Is this normal behaviour? Is it because the screen has a greater resolution and the Tablet S has to work so much harder than the 1024x600 Galaxy Tab?
The Tegra 2 CPU used in the Tablet S struggles with HD content encoded using H.264 and the High profile. It's a known limitation.
For videos you encode yourself using H.264/x264, you should use the Main profile.
For downloaded HD content that is already encoded using the high profile we're all out of luck
I usually use MX Player Pro on my tablet, but I've tried Dice Player and it is somewhat better at playing high profile stuff, so you may want to give that a try.
Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
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Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
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When it comes to HD video playback the Exynos 3110 CPU used in the Galaxy Tab has the upper hand, yes. I was a bit surprised to find out that the Tegra 2 wasn't better at video decoding myself. And no, AFAIK it's not just a driver issue, so it can't be fixed through software/firmware.
Heh. Thanks again! This is a real eye-opener. To tell you the truth it never occured to me to check whether a newer chipset / tablet would actually have lower performance than the previous generation. One would think they upped the resolution of these tablets to 1280x800 to meet 720p HD requirements....
I'm using Dice Player, it has HW acceleration.
I was mildly disappointed with the Sony's high-res Video playback capabilities after I also upgraded from my venerable GT-P1000 Galaxy Tab. Now I use MX Video Player and it seems to do alright, but the Sony's hardware accelerated mode as mentioned above is very finicky about its x264 video.
Also, even if an app claims to be hardware accelerated, chances are extremely good it's probably not. Built-in Hardware Acceleration won't go live until ICS and when video players use the "Hardware Decoding" option (note that its not the same), they just use the Sony's built-in chip and all the video players will deal with it pretty much the same.
real
I use Real Player and Mobo Player and have rarely any problems.
A help if you are having issues is to shut down all of the unneeded apps, clear out your ram and shut off the data connection.
Hi all
Running foxhound 1.3, using galaxsih kernel, just popped my MHL cable in my TV.
Anyway needless to say its very cool. However its got a slight delay in input, making gaming a pain in the ass.
I'm using an official MHL cable, powering it with an official power pack and my tv is a beast, all post processing on the TV has been disabled and game mode has been activated, meaning that it should run as good as it can.
I think I've done as much as I can to bring the delay down to a minimum, but its still very noticeable , gaming is not very good because there is a noticeable delay, so anything that requires quick reactions is a no no.
Does anyone have any input about this? It would be superb to get this working well, its cost a few quid to buy all high grade components to set this up, its a shame that its fell at the last hurdle.
Any help would be great
Thanks.
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Know that feel, bro.
I also bought the official samsung mhl adapter for s3 (int. edition). And guess what, this adapter gives out a signal of 1080p30Hertz
For real, wtf, is this, only 15 frames per second, videos are not really watchable, games not enjoyable, extreme lag on games, something that shouldnt be, but it is there.
I asked sammy bout that, they said I should send my phone to the service center cause it could be broken (hahaha -.-'') Or my adapter is maybe a faulty unit. I dont know. I have to test it with other s3s. Maybe the adapter doesnt work properly cause my phone is flashed (with system marked as changed and not official state, so I cant update via OTA).
I have to take some time this weekend to check it out, cause it would be really awesome, to play on my FHD tv nfs most wanted.
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alexx910 said:
Know that feel, bro.
I also bought the official samsung mhl adapter for s3 (int. edition). And guess what, this adapter gives out a signal of 1080p30Hertz
For real, wtf, is this, only 15 frames per second, videos are not really watchable, games not enjoyable, extreme lag on games, something that shouldnt be, but it is there.
I asked sammy bout that, they said I should send my phone to the service center cause it could be broken (hahaha -.-'') Or my adapter is maybe a faulty unit. I dont know. I have to test it with other s3s. Maybe the adapter doesnt work properly cause my phone is flashed (with system marked as changed and not official state, so I cant update via OTA).
I have to take some time this weekend to check it out, cause it would be really awesome, to play on my FHD tv nfs most wanted.
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Dont be sending it back just yet, i've got several s3's in work and i'll be trying them out today, i've attempted it on my two tv's (both Tv's switched to game mode for fastest response time) A Panasonic viera 3DTV, and an LG 3DTV, both top of the line. My HD cables are gold plated high grade 2 metre cables, the MHL is also Official.
I don't believe it's the handset at all.
I think it's just a crap job done at mirroring.
I honestly don't want 1080p, i just wanted 720p, i wanted it to mirror whats on the handset pixel for pixel.
It doesn't need to render it twice, just mirror the one set ffs.
Samsung are terrible for this, there is about half a second lag on my TV, playing tekken was sh** and lagged, on the s3 it was rapid.
Does anyone else have any input on this?
Tried i don't know how many TV's and all have similar results.
Surely it can compete with the like of apple when it comes to getting your device on TV
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Does anyone else have any input on this?
Tried i don't know how many TV's and all have similar results.
Surely it can compete with the like of apple when it comes to getting your device on TV
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Are you try using another Rom? just to test it is the MHL or the Rom?
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Are you try using another Rom? just to test it is the MHL or the Rom?
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I've tried it with omega and its the same. I also tested with different TVs, 5 in total and different cables too. 3 in total. And two different HDMI cables.
Maybe its just bad luck. I'll attempt it with another ROM.
Have you used the MHL cable yourself? What results did you have ? I'm aiming at gaming more than anything.
Cheers.
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I've just received a MHL adapter, it's not the Samsung official one though.
I don't have any noticeable input lag but I can see it's always running at 30fps.
That's easy to notice while playing emulators (Sonic on megadrive/genesis ).
I tested it on my Samsung 1080p TV, it gives a 1080p output at 30Hz which I think is the maximum possible with this MHL technology atm.
So, I thought "let's try this on the 720p TV I've got downstairs, maybe it will run at 60FPS".
And... no, still 30FPS at 720p.
I was wondering if it was a cheap MHL fault and if the Samsung official one would run faster, what do you guys think? you always have 30fps as well?
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I've just received a MHL adapter, it's not the Samsung official one though.
I don't have any noticeable input lag but I can see it's always running at 30fps.
That's easy to notice while playing emulators (Sonic on megadrive/genesis ).
I tested it on my Samsung 1080p TV, it gives a 1080p output at 30Hz which I think is the maximum possible with this MHL technology atm.
So, I thought "let's try this on the 720p TV I've got downstairs, maybe it will run at 60FPS".
And... no, still 30FPS at 720p.
I was wondering if it was a cheap MHL fault and if the Samsung official one would run faster, what do you guys think? you always have 30fps as well?
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Not sure what mine runs at, all I know is that it cost £27 and its nowhere near as good as the iphone one, which pisses me off as I can't stand it when apple has something over android.
That aside, I think the s3 and this mhl technology should work well, but as far as I can see, besides simple browsing and movies, gaming isn't all that good. Infact unless your playing solitaire or pool or something, its not possible. Was playing real racing and although it looks amazing, the delay is just so noticable.
Tekken 3 on epsxe was unplayable and it lagged.
Haven't tried it since the 4.1.2 update but I can't see it moving ahead a lot. Will test it again and see how I go.
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Can we change the resolution to 720p? I'm stuck at 1080i
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Can we change the resolution to 720p? I'm stuck at 1080i
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I'm stuck at 1080p at 30hz, don't have the option to alter it on my TV, would be nice to be able to have 720 with 60hz.
Thanks for the answer.
Everyone seem to have this problem, 30Hz max while it's technically possible to do [email protected]
I saw someone made a modification at kernel level on the HTC One S to force 60Hz. I asked him how he did but didn't get any answer yet.
Tatsuya79 said:
Thanks for the answer.
Everyone seem to have this problem, 30Hz max while it's technically possible to do [email protected]
I saw someone made a modification at kernel level on the HTC One S to force 60Hz. I asked him how he did but didn't get any answer yet.
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Nice, update us!!
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Tatsuya79 said:
Thanks for the answer.
Everyone seem to have this problem, 30Hz max while it's technically possible to do [email protected]
I saw someone made a modification at kernel level on the HTC One S to force 60Hz. I asked him how he did but didn't get any answer yet.
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Would be good to know how as the delay and lag is a killer.
Great for movies crap for games.
I found his github with the commit but the files are not similar to what we have on I9300.
I've now found that my 0anason8c Vieira runs the mhl cable at 1080i at 60hz. It is smoother. But still not perfect.
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Tatsuya79 said:
I've just received a MHL adapter, it's not the Samsung official one though.
I don't have any noticeable input lag but I can see it's always running at 30fps.
That's easy to notice while playing emulators (Sonic on megadrive/genesis ).
I tested it on my Samsung 1080p TV, it gives a 1080p output at 30Hz which I think is the maximum possible with this MHL technology atm.
So, I thought "let's try this on the 720p TV I've got downstairs, maybe it will run at 60FPS".
And... no, still 30FPS at 720p.
I was wondering if it was a cheap MHL fault and if the Samsung official one would run faster, what do you guys think? you always have 30fps as well?
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Hello
Got a Galaxy note 2, stock ROM JB 4.1.2, with samsung official GS3/GN2 11pin adapter. I have the same problem with the official smartdock and the Juice Defender 5 in 1 MHL Connection Kit.
I have the same problem described by the OP: Output seems to be 1080p.
But about an half second lag that just make games impossible to play on a TV. And that is also easy to see when I open app on the home screen.
Do you really confirm you have no delay ?
If yes I would be really interested in having the ref of your adapter.
30fps or 720p would be just fine for me if I at least I got no delay.
Note: And in addition, I can see with emulators such as N64oid the rendering is much better on my phone screen than on my TV (that's blured and pixelated), what is not the case in other apps (homescreen, video player, ...).
UPDATE 06/05/2017:
The delay was caused by a setting on my TV.
I noticed the same delay when I connected the TV to my PC. After having enabled the PC mode on the TV, the delay disappeared.
I have not rechecked with the phone and the MHL adapter, but I am now pretty sure the delay should be solved now.
Sorry for this false alarm.
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Do you really confirm you have no delay ?
If yes I would be really interested in having the ref of your adapter.
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Hi, I checked my cable and where I bought it but it's hard to answer.
There is just "HDTV adapter" written on it and no reference at all.
The shop I bought it from has a different adapter on the picture now, so I think they send whatever they have atm.
The price is higher too...
Sorry can't really help here.
I also suspect different TV can have more or less input lag with an MHL connected (and they already have different input lag natively btw).
Bad technology...
Thanks for your answer anyway.
In fact that cannot come from the TV, since my TV (like almost all) is not MHL enabled, meaning there are only regular MHL inputs.
Of course there is a small delay on all TVs, but there is a really big difference between the phone and the PC, if I connect it on the same HDMI input.
So the delay could only come from the MHL to HDMI bridge or to the phone itself.
stock kernel may help fix the mhl delay.i use stock rom with kernel and stock launcher. i do not have mhl issues. also nova launcher may cause mhl to not work
OK, but actually I use a GN2 stock ROM JB 4.1.2. Are you in JB 4.2 ? Or maybe there is difference between S3 and GN2...
So, I updated to ICS and wanted to try out webtop on my HDTV via a micro HDMI cable I bought, it gets into webtop just fine but the issue is that it is at 600x800 resolution and I can hardly read the words, the resolution option in display settings is also greyed out so I cannot change the resolution, this also happens with mirror mode, is it a hardware related issue? I'm on the stock pshasiaretail ROM with root access.
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So, I updated to ICS and wanted to try out webtop on my HDTV via a micro HDMI cable I bought, it gets into webtop just fine but the issue is that it is at 600x800 resolution and I can hardly read the words, the resolution option in display settings is also greyed out so I cannot change the resolution, this also happens with mirror mode, is it a hardware related issue? I'm on the stock pshasiaretail ROM with root access.
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Hi ahzhang,
I've notices the same 'issue'. The resolution is far far away from fullhd.
Unfortunatly i think there is nothing we can do about it.
b.o.n.s said:
Hi ahzhang,
I've notices the same 'issue'. The resolution is far far away from fullhd.
Unfortunatly i think there is nothing we can do about it.
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Seriously? I remember seeing on moto's forums that this can output 1080p or 720p, I have also got it to 1080p once, not sure how I got it to work but it was sure damn full hd
I have tried too. I was able to enable the resolution menu and to set full hd 1080p.
But even if the final resolution is 1080p the phone starts with a very low resolution and the interpolates it to 1080p and sends it to the tv.
So I cannot see real 1080p photos or video or webtop.
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I have tried too. I was able to enable the resolution menu and to set full hd 1080p.
But even if the final resolution is 1080p the phone starts with a very low resolution and the interpolates it to 1080p and sends it to the tv.
So I cannot see real 1080p photos or video or webtop.
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Any update here? How can I get REAL 1080p on my phone?
Thanks,
Mario
mgiammarco said:
Any update here? How can I get REAL 1080p on my phone?
Thanks,
Mario
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Ciao Marco
With the Razr/Razr maxx we are in the same situation: webtop 3.0 is locked to max 1280x720. When I select 1920x1080 on my native FullHD 22" (same display I use for my home pc) I got a upscaled 720p->1080p which looks worst than when I select 720p (less blury)
Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801339
Thanks, I will check it now.