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I have been doing research on the 8X ever since it came out, and the phone looks gorgeous. Perfect screen size for me, great colors, new OS (being a current Android user), and from what I've heard it is really smooth. However, after reading other threads, I have had trouble deciding whether to go with the 920 or the 8X. The 920 is made by Nokia, the top Windows Phone company, but to me it seems like they overdid the camera to a point where the lowlight pictures look awful. But it is a popular phone. Which one would you pick if you were me, a smartphone junkie who doesn't use camera often, but may need to quickly access it from time to time; a Zune fanatic; and one who stresses comfort, size, and performance as a balance in a phone, to maintain at least two years of life?
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if you love zune you should not that the 8x has only 16gb where the lumia has 32gb. The 8x though will have better sound esp for bass. Also you said about build quality and that is nokias strong point, there phones last and last while every htc I have had just falls apart. Also the 920's plastic is colored all the way through not just painted so if you do scratch it then its not a problem. Also note that you get nokia drive a great sat nav as well as wireless charging and matching headsets speakers etc. Also the screen on the 920 is a long way better it has darker blacks faster refresh rates and is brighter not to mention that it has ultra sensitive touch screen.
The 8x is slimmer though, the 920 is a fat boy. In my world I cant recommend the 8x however, if it had more mem or an sd it would be tight as I think its better looking and a better size. Phone at the mo are getting stupid in this race for bigger screens and higher specs. In a perfect world I would have the 8s with more ram and dual 1.5 but again htc messed it up.
The things I do not like about the Nokia is the plastic backing and its Pureview camera. Do the benefits outweigh these things?
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I have been doing research on the 8X ever since it came out, and the phone looks gorgeous. Perfect screen size for me, great colors, new OS (being a current Android user), and from what I've heard it is really smooth. However, after reading other threads, I have had trouble deciding whether to go with the 920 or the 8X. The 920 is made by Nokia, the top Windows Phone company, but to me it seems like they overdid the camera to a point where the lowlight pictures look awful. But it is a popular phone. Which one would you pick if you were me, a smartphone junkie who doesn't use camera often, but may need to quickly access it from time to time; a Zune fanatic; and one who stresses comfort, size, and performance as a balance in a phone, to maintain at least two years of life?
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Ive used the HTC HD7 since it came out on Tmobile 2 years ago. The only problem Ive had with it is the proximety sensor comming loose. It's got 16gb, but Ive never filled it. I had a ton of games, and stream my music from the cloud. I was excited to hear that tmobile would be carrying the new HTCs! The only thing I wasnt sure, do the 8s and the 8x have micro sd slots? My htc hd7 takes great pictures. The nokia would be a good phone too. Its got a better camera, more memory, and nokia exclusive apps, but probably won't be offered on Tmoble. Either way you go though, HTC or nokia you'll be getting a good solid phone on a nice solid os. WP 7/7.5/7.8 have done everything I needed it to smoothly, quickly, and without freezing, or haveing to reboot.
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Ive used the HTC HD7 since it came out on Tmobile 2 years ago. The only problem Ive had with it is the proximety sensor comming loose. It's got 16gb, but Ive never filled it. I had a ton of games, and stream my music from the cloud. I was excited to hear that tmobile would be carrying the new HTCs! The only thing I wasnt sure, do the 8s and the 8x have micro sd slots? My htc hd7 takes great pictures. The nokia would be a good phone too. Its got a better camera, more memory, and nokia exclusive apps, but probably won't be offered on Tmoble. Either way you go though, HTC or nokia you'll be getting a good solid phone on a nice solid os. WP 7/7.5/7.8 have done everything I needed it to smoothly, quickly, and without freezing, or haveing to reboot.
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No they do not come with SD expansion. At least the 8X doesn't. See, I was thinking about streaming music from the cloud, but 1) how much cloud storage do i get and is it free, and 2) does that drain battery? For me now it all pretty much comes down to the screen and general functionality. However, the HTC 8X has that awesome clock tile that the 920 does not have. So I'll see. Still need feedback, though! And I have Verizon, and they are offering both. That's why I'm so conflicted
I think you should try both of them out before you decide. That way, you know yourself which one you would prefer.
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Really considering getting a WP8 device as I feel like a change from Android. iOS is rubbish so lets not even consider that (I already have an Android tab + iPad so won't miss the OS's)
Everywhere I read seems to say get the 920 over the 8x.. my only issue with the 920 is that it looks a bit chunky?
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Really considering getting a WP8 device as I feel like a change from Android. iOS is rubbish so lets not even consider that (I already have an Android tab + iPad so won't miss the OS's)
Everywhere I read seems to say get the 920 over the 8x.. my only issue with the 920 is that it looks a bit chunky?
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Yeah but you can't deny that it has an awesome camera. Other than that, it has more storage than the 8X, bigger screen, potentially more support. But the 8X looks sleeker.
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Yeah but you can't deny that it has an awesome camera. Other than that, it has more storage than the 8X, bigger screen, potentially more support. But the 8X looks sleeker.
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True say, though me personally I never use the camera :laugh: The Lumia 920 still looks great though even without the camera, guess I'll just buy whichever device comes out first
at this point, im liking the nokia maps/music/camera :S yeah i'm starting to pick at the software because the hardware on both wins me over
Hardware is very similar between the two. The snapdragon is really good the sound quality from it is decent as well you can read gsmarena HTC One S review and check out the audio review. My sister has it and it sounds better than my One X. The SLCD2 on the One X is easily one of the best displays to date so no issues with the 8X there. The camera is also good and takes some great pictures.
Like the user above me said it will come down to software and I think Nokia edges it slightly especially the free music streaming something I would make use of. The slightly bigger screen also appeals to me and that fact it's a Nokia my last Nokia was the 5800 and have been etching for a good handset from them.
I will try the 920 out, now whether it can tempt me away from Android that's another discussion on its own.
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Hardware is very similar between the two. The snapdragon is really good the sound quality from it is decent as well you can read gsmarena HTC One S review and check out the audio review. My sister has it and it sounds better than my One X. The SLCD2 on the One X is easily one of the best displays to date so no issues with the 8X there. The camera is also good and takes some great pictures.
Like the user above me said it will come down to software and I think Nokia edges it slightly especially the free music streaming something I would make use of. The slightly bigger screen also appeals to me and that fact it's a Nokia my last Nokia was the 5800 and have been etching for a good handset from them.
I will try the 920 out, now whether it can tempt me away from Android that's another discussion on its own.
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Free music streaming... Meaning what exactly? Like, music you stored in the cloud?
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Free music streaming... Meaning what exactly? Like, music you stored in the cloud?
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nokia music is kind of like google music, slightly better selection imo for free things
http://www.nokia.com/global/apps/nokia/music/
that said, since google music doesn't have an native app that I know of on WP, nokia music pretty much wins the music race for me on WP. There are 3rd pt apps for it, i just prefer using apps for services made by the service...
I'm in this same boat....after owning a One X and now the GS3, i've learned to really not enjoy the samsung (again). I didn't like my captivate, loved my Inspire 4G. Loved my One X, so-so feelings on the GS3. So for me, Ativ S is out.
To me, the hardware/software is so close that it has basically came down to which will get better developer support down the road. It seems like the 920 is getting the initial praise and most people are looking forward to it, but with WP7, it seems like the HTC phones are the ones getting the ROM's/dev support.
What do you all think? Which will be most popular with the Dev's??
They will be equally popular with world-wide devs.
The nokia one just gets some more exclusive apps, but HTC has apps as well. It now depends on how you plan on using them.
And for every exclusive nokia app there is a free, available to everybody, third party app.
Also if its app sits worth a note that most exclusives get hacked and ported to other devices ie nokia maps etc
The 16GB limit on the 8X is a real disappointment. I don't love the fatboy formfactor of the 920...but can't get by the 16GB limit. I just can't understand why they did the 8S with expandable memory and the 8X has none (yes, I know, unibody ... but my One X has 32GB internal!!!).
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Also if its app sits worth a note that most exclusives get hacked and ported to other devices ie nokia maps etc
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yes, why i dont object to porting... i do kind of feel like something like nokia maps ported is stealing :S and i can see others wanting it... if i have a chance to just buy the nokia one i will if the maps is what I wanted out of it
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The 16GB limit on the 8X is a real disappointment. I don't love the fatboy formfactor of the 920...but can't get by the 16GB limit. I just can't understand why they did the 8S with expandable memory and the 8X has none (yes, I know, unibody ... but my One X has 32GB internal!!!).
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They nay have another version later on. Or maybe they are changing it right now. Who knows.
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yes, why i dont object to porting... i do kind of feel like something like nokia maps ported is stealing :S and i can see others wanting it... if i have a chance to just buy the nokia one i will if the maps is what I wanted out of it
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That's the thing, though. I will barely use the Maps app, if at all. That's why those Nokia apps aren't of much concern.
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I was looking to upgrade my OG Evo to the new LTE, but after playing around with it at the Sprint store, I'm not so sure.
Maybe people can give me feedback:
1. I really liked the dedicated camera hardware button; but I was hoping this would be a quick way to take a photo from sleep mode. Seemed to me it didn't operate until you turn on phone, unlock screen, etc. So it actually takes longer than the iPhone. Is there any way to make it shoot straight from sleep?
2. I was excited by the 'take stills while shooting video' thing -- but all 3 phones do this.
3. Switching from front to rear camera is a major pain, takes 3 steps. Samsung & iPhone it's instant.
4. Does anyone know of a place to see real-world photos from this phone side by side with iPhone? I know the lens is f2 (vs 2.4), but I have a feeling the optics are better on the iPhone.
5. Does it have a panorama mode? I thought that was already built in to ICS. I couldn't find it. The iPhone panorama is excellent.
Wow, that's a lot of camera-related questions!
6. What's with the "..." at the bottom of the screen in many places? Is that because there's no menu button? It looks odd and out of place.
7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available?
Thanks for any input! I'm having a really hard time with this decision ... Evo LTE vs iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S3.
(The iPhone 'feels' like the best device BY FAR (in terms of build quality, design, screen & speed), but I HATE the narrow screen and the absence of a Swype, which I can't imagine living without.)
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ok, you had a lot of questions and most related to camera. so i will try to get you up to speed. before i start i'm in the same boat and need to choose between the iphone 5 (currently have) the galaxy S3 (just traded away from my S2), and the HTC evo 4g lte ( always been an htc fan boy ).
on #1, you're right the camera button does require the phone to be unlocked before use (for now).
#2, yes they all do some sort of pic in video mode. however the aperture on the HTC is the best of the three and the pics taken while doing vids will be better on the HTC...this should help cover #4 as well. as far as finding pics to match i could load a few but most aren't of the same theme.
#3, the switching between rear and front camera...lets be serious. how often do you need instant switching back and forth? but to explain, the camera of the htc is extremely powerful and so just as if you use a high end camera changin a few features may seem slow. trade off comrade, trade off...would you rather a slow focus and quick switch or quick focus and slow switch? also it really isn't that slow. as compared to the S3 it's on par, the iphone is faster but the front facing camera is a joke compared to those of the android counterparts. they all have a panoramic shot mode so dont fret on that, #5 dismissed.
While on the topic of cameras i will say the iphone 5 has an awesome camera compared to the iphone 4/4s but the focus and detail is failing when placed beside the S3 and evo LTE.
now to the fun stuff and why i got the iphone...
first #6, yes the "..." is the menu. no haptic button for the htc. no idea on the rooting yet, i like to test stock before i go tamperin...just seems fair to have a really good device before i make it the perfect one.^_^. . the iphone 5 is a spectacular device specially seeing any device i get right now (i'm a sprint user, *sigh* hopefully loyalty has it's advantages). IOS is a very stable OS and gives a ease of use unchallenged by many. if you've ever had an iphone more so the last three setting up your new iphone should be as easy as syncing to itunes or loading from cloud to have damned near everything loaded for you. . . .BUT it's old, and lame, and too stupid friendly. i make no jabs @ apple, i have both mac and PC and as i said got the iphone 5 and have had every other dating back to the original iphone (SN: anyone else notice how much the latest iphone looks more like the first more so than any other...victim of fashion i guess).
Samsung, oh samasung....i had the S2 and i have to admit, it became one of my favs. i didn't even want the damned thing, but my gurl made me do the "matching" thing. don't laugh, there are far worse options. -,-... back to focus, the S2 was large, beautiful, responsive and gave a so-so battery performance. the new version has all that and then some. it is loaded, wait let me clarify.....LOADED with goodies and features. all eye catching, all empowering, all really cool. and the way they have been presented on tv and web is about to make the next thing i say a shocker to some.... the HTC can do these things to. HTC started the trend of phone gestures on smart phones...back before android on this little known part of history called windows mobile 6. and they've kept it going all along. never really got the front face it deserved but it's had it and the evo is no different. no before i get blasted there are a few features unique to samsung and again why i emphasized on how many there are.
last but definately not least is HTC. they've been my fav for a loooo...insert coffee break here...oong time, since since my 8125 (see cingular). the htc is a thign of beauty in modest form. the power, the look, the camer, the kickstand....is just an awesome picture of what a phone should be. it works awesome as it's predecessor did, without the hellaciously horrendous battery life. it's that nerdy chic in class all grown up. but there inlies her problem...her focus has shifted. she's just as smart as before, smarter even. but she's gotten so shallow that like your "..." problem in #6 things that used to make her intelligence known are now hidden behind a pretty smile.
i've ranted long enough and hopefully helped fix some of your questions. i think i just solved mine. getting the htc tomorrow. glad i could help and thanks for yours.
Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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I'm not a big fan of taking pictures with the front camera. I always considered it as something important for video chatting, not so much taking pictures I actually intend on keeping. It's only 1.3 megapixels as opposed to the 8 on the back.
As for the phone, I like it overall. There are some kinks, but you would be foolish to expect there not to be any a few months after the device launches.
I'm having the contact ringtone not working - haven't gotten an update to fix it that should've been out for a week already. Also have had problems with swype force closing, and have had one glorious occasion where I was stuck in a boot loop. And I'm not even rooted! Ended up factory resetting and losing all my apps.
I really WANT to like it. The battery is awesome, the camera is nice. No ****ing LTE yet, and I'm in Los Angeles - one of the biggest markets in the US. No Jellybean yet either.
I'll wait it out though. I had the old Evo 4G and it was a great year and a half.
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5. Does it have a panorama mode?
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Yes. It's excellent. Up to 5 panes IIRC. I took some pics at the zoo last weekend. They were too big to upload to image shack. Turned out great but you'll have to take my word for it.
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7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available??
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Very easy. I did it with the one click method (it's noob proof). Rooted in about 15 minutes. I'm running the Mean Rom 4.5.1. It's super fast and not buggy. It's the best rom out there IMO. Lots of camera mods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727167
Watch the video review in the second link. It shows all the bells & whistles. The new update has a 1.7 overclock kernel.
Read my post about my HTC Evo 4G on a thread I posted a few days ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32045074
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Here is a little review of this phone: I wrote this on another thread.
Found a Great vs Review! Keep in mind this was in May! Plus I don't care much for the GS3. This is strictly for The Two Devices Listed Down Below. 
This sumed it up for me! Good thing it shows the differences between camera. I see that the Nexus camera is more of a square format then a wide format. So that right there is a no go on my end. But yea, they are both Superior devices. Wish I can own both...But oh well....
Check out this link for the full review!
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus_id3039/page/2
Posted: 21 May 2012, 07:05 , by Brian K.
Processor and Memory:
Samsung uses a 1.2GHz dual core TI OMAP4460 processor, while EVO 4G LTE is powered by a dual core Qualcomm S4. Both run on 1GB of RAM. The Samsung opts for 32GB of internal storage, whereas HTC only offers 16GB built-in but has expandable memory for another possible 64GB. HTC also partnered with Dropbox to give users activating an EVO 4G LTE 25GB of free cloud storage. Both run the OS quickly and fluidly, and in everyday use it is likely that you wouldn’t notice much of a difference. There is something to be said for the heavy graphical load of Sense 4.0 and how well the EVO 4G LTE handles it.
When it comes to benchmarks, however, the EVO 4G LTE mops the floor with the Nexus. Besting our previous scores, the EVO 4G LTE was able to achieve just shy of 5500 on Quadrant Standard, with the Galaxy Nexus topping out just over 2000 at its best. Nenamark 2 gave similar results, with the EVO 4G LTE topping out at 58.8fps and the Galaxy Nexus less than half that 24.9fps. On AnTuTu the EVO 4G LTE maxed out a few points shy of 7000, with the Galaxy Nexus far behind at about 5100 (with the rest of its scores down in the mid 4000s.) It is pretty clear that Qualcomm’s latest and greatest is up the challenge of some heavy computing.
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A reworked camera app was one of the selling points of Android 4.0, and we have to say we’re impressed with the instant capture feature that the Galaxy Nexus offers. The interface is better, but still clunky and worlds behind the HTC interface found on the EVO 4G LTE. The technology behind the Nexus’ camera is also lagging behind; Samsung opted for a 5 megapixel f2.8 camera while HTC went with an 8 megapixel f2.0 with backside illumination. Both are capable of producing some great shots, and at times the Galaxy Nexus bested the EVO 4G LTE, but the majority of the time the HTC outperformed the Samsung.
Colors were more natural with the EVO 4G LTE, details were crisper and tricky lighting conditions were handled much better. The Galaxy Nexus struggled with color saturation, backlight situations and light/dark contrast (such as shooting shadows.) The EVO 4G LTE bested the Galaxy Nexus especially indoors, where the latter had a tendency to lose details quickly, as evidenced by the pantry shot.
Conclusion:
These are undoubtedly the two best Android devices Sprint has to offer, and really are two of the best smartphones available today. Some of this is going to come down to preferences, for example Sense versus stock or AMOLED versus S-LCD. All things considered the HTC EVO 4G LTE was the better performer of the pair in our opinion. It offers a superior display, top notch performance, excellent call quality and has an inspired design. The Galaxy Nexus is not without merit, and we would certainly carry one as our everyday phone if one were handed to us, but given the choice the HTC edges out the Nexus in too many categories to call it even.
When it comes to cameras, I know wassup! This Evo 4G LTE is a beast comparing it to any iPhone! Android in general had panorama way back even before the iPhone had it. And to tell you the truth its on top of its game. Don't expect to take excellent shots with either or. Cause what you see on the commercials is not what you get in real life. It takes dedication & a Non-Moving subject for it to come out perfect. Like "landscape"
But yea, Im a big camera person. And for I to choose this camera over any other phone camera means a lot in my line of Hobby!
The only thing is, if you are planning to upload to facebook. There is something with facebook that it does not let it load its full resolution. The only way for it to upload full resolution of a photo is if you pass it over to your computer and upload it that way. Or I think uploading it through the App "google chrome" should do the trick. Facebook app sucks on Android! I have to admit that on Apple, facebook app its the best!
I know because I owned a iPhone 4 and my girl owns a iPhone 4S!
But yea, if you are not a fan of a little screen. The iPhone is not going to make justice.
Watching YouTube videos, movies, tv shows, playing a game on the Evo 4G LTE screen has become one of my best experience then doing so on a iPhone screen.
Keep that in mind!
One last thing about the camera between the Evo 4G LTE & any iPhone!
This camera shoots widescreen shots and keeps a aperture of 2.2 or I think 2.0 which is Heavenly good. The bigger the aperture the better the lens! It gives great depth of field, it also as on-board effects that I often play with. My favorite is "over exposed" which is a Black & white effect.
Here are some examples!
I posted nights shots for to see how great it captures light and night scenes! It may not look superb due to uploading with xda but on the phone it looks great!
Camera is about the same quality on all three phones.
You can add camera to lockscreen.
I'd pick the S3 (currently what I use, despite being a HTC fanboy).
Don't chain yourself to Apple.
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evo 4g lte beats every phone in speed.. i have tested it using every benchmark and quadrant app thats out and the evo wins in all of them :good:
Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
Good article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/08/30/hands-on-how-cyanogenmod-10-fixed-my-evo-4g-lte/
Does anyone know about this from the comments?
Rohan Mathur • a month ago
Just an FYI Liam, we are moving the entire HTC MSM8960 family from proprietary library files to an Open Source HAL for Camera. Guess what that means? Near perfect camera
My device (the One XL), the HTC One S, and your device, the Evo 4G LTE are all making the switch. The new camera libraries are working very, very well.
Should be merged either tonight or tomorrow. Big props to dzo from XDA for his flatout amazing work.
Track the commit here: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
And here is the commit for your device for building the opensourced Camera HAL: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
EDIT: Commit was merged last night, should be included in nightlies from now on.
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Sounds like someone from the CM dev team ... has anyone tried CM10?
It looks AWESOME .... does it now have all the camera functions?
(And it fixes the menu button issue.)
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Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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Don't doubt it cause its happening to me. I'm stock to the bone! And yes I am on 4.1 sense.
The only thing I could think being that you are stock is to try a factory reset.
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I'll try that.. but I'm not really in the need for a menu buttons. I guess I'll wait until.. One, I root my Evo or Two: HTC, comes out with JB.
Not really related but I took this awesome shot of the sunrise the other day.
Guys im thinking of changing my phone to lumia 920 im using the HTC ONE X now... Do u recommend it?? Anyone has changed from Android to windows phone?
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I am changing (maybe)... Well I'll get my Lumia in a few days and will use it about 1-2 Weeks and then look what I like more... I'm changing from Galaxy Note. If you got any chance to buy a Lumia, with return right, than I would recommend you to do the same thing... Use it a little bit and decide yourself. Everybody has his own taste in Smartphones. So go and find yours
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As you can see from my sig I have used iOS and Android plenty. I just picked up my 920 today coming from Galaxy S3. I am happy with my decision. The 920 feels more refined, smoother, and overall a better user experience in my opinion.
The screen on the Lumia is hands down the best I have used on a smartphone. Colors are great, super bright and functional in sunlight (unlike HTC screens, and even better than Note/AMOLED screens).
The camera is awesome, software and hardware.
Nokia maps functions great so far, but I've only had the phone for 6 hours so need more time there, as well as seeing how battery and overall cell service stacks up.
So far download speeds seem to be eating my GS3 alive, but thats just from download apps so nothing conclusive.
While a little on the heavy side, its worth it. The phone feels very well constructed and SOLID.
The browser is one of the fastest mobile experiences I think I have ever experienced.
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Also you add your gmail account and it pulls in all your contacts (sync not just a copy), Gmail, and calendars. So easy as pie there.
I tried out the Note II, HTC 8X, and iPhone 5 while I was there. From research and my phone preference I pretty much had my decision down to Note II or Lumia 920 before I got there but I still gave the other 2 a little of my time as well just to be sure. The Note II looks amazing, it feels good, and is definitely a REALLY nice phone. I loved my Note but within a few seconds of holding the Note II I was sure that as much as I love the large screen, I don't really like carrying around a phone that size all the time. Also while the Note II was pretty smooth, I still felt WP8/Lumia 920 overall is a smoother experience. No lag/buggy/glitchy/etc...
2 negative experiences with the Lumia 920 so far:
Speech to text is ... bad. I've never been a big fan anyway, but this one works worse than S-Voice to say the least.
Gmail contacts sync does not appear to sync phone numbers marked as "other". IE I had a contact named Tyler, the contact, his picture all came over, but no phone number as I had his cell saved as "other". I had to go through my contacts and change any from Other to Mobile and they all came right over.
Oh and my last complaint, they didn't get any at my AT&T store in Matte Cyan which is what I really wanted, and they didn't have the wireless charging pads in stock but ordered one for me (free) and it is being shipped to my house directly within a few days. This is my own impatience, and not relative to the phone itself in anyway, but hey it was part of my overall experience .
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I have completely moved over to wIndows phone from android and have to admit the Lumia 920 is the best out there ..
I actually got bored of android after three years of flashing and rooting and all that stuff, never seemed to get satisfied and for me camera was very important and the lumia 920 camera is just awesome.
The only thing I miss from android is a native app for google + other than that windows phone syncs all my gmail contacts and emails etc easily and I have to admit the windows phone peoples hub is the best as you can add your facebook and twitter and now linkedin as well and its so perfect that I rarely use the actual facebook or twitter apps.
To cut it short windows phone does everything quicker compared to android for me and I am totally sold. but again it all depends how you use your phone so If you can get your hands on one (maybe a friends where you can play with it at least a couple of hours ) definitely try it before you go for
I had to Galaxy S3 and moved to the lumia 920 and it's just an amazing experience. Being able to try out a different OS and also just how freaking smooth the whole thing is!
It's just amazing!
Exactly!
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Just switched today from my SGS3 to Lumia 920. So far so good. The store was out of white, so I got red.
I've had two iPhones and three Android phones. So far, I'm really happy with WP8 and the 920 and am not looking back.
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It's so tempting to make the switch. Right now I have 3 android devices in the house, and as much as I've appreciated all the wonderful customization and custom ROM's, it's getting a bit old.
The one thing that has me hesitant is the ecosystem. For example, I use memotoo for contact management, as I wanted something that supported all the standards for vcard etc. I sync everything I need to an rsync account via SFTP. Photos currently sync to my account on Photobucket...
You get the point. My stuff is all over the place, and I like the freedom to do that. Now, I imagine I can find apps for most of these things... I just don't like being locked down to a single ecosystem like "live" or "google" or whatever. This is what has me holding back... plus I refuse to give AT&T my money because of their lock policy (and I am on Tmo ).
I'm definitely moving, just tired of android and can't really handle the boringness of ios, have used both and think they already look dated, esp. iOS. My problem with Android on the other hand is the ugly lag that is present even in quad core devices, heck Engadget said even the Nexus 4 occasionally lags + it has a goddamn glass backcover which will totally prevent me from buying it..
The smooth and modern ui, great map services, great camera, great new features overall and the design + development frameworks for WP8 all made me decide to switch. The question for me is whether i should pick the lumia 920 or 820. Having used both, I have to say that I find the 820 more interesting from a design perspective + it feels more comfortable in my hand and I also get all the amazing backcovers. On the other hand I don't get pureview and the really gorgeous display of the 920. We will see :highfive: Oh, and screw HTC and the 8X, it has nothing to offer compared to the Nokia devices and HTC's marketing strategy is just ugly and plain stupid. And that comes from a longtime HTC fan.
Me too me too!
I switched from a flakey GSII on at&t...
So far it's amazing... things just work... bluetooth stays connected, doesn't decide after a while to disconnect and suddenly be unable to reconnect...
The phone just works.. with the android phones I've had things have been almost there... there was lots of tweaking going on, with the gsII sometimes I'd feel it in my pocket getting hot and have to check the task manager to see what's going on...
I use exchange for email and the integration is great with that (obviously) also, the exchange admin stuff is better.. I don't have to re-enter the password whenever I use the phone, only if it's been idle for a while (I'm not sure how long yet)... I'm still using Google voice for my voicemail and MetroTalk seems to work well with that... all the other apps I "need" are available too..
...A side note, as weird as this sounds at the moment Microsoft is kind of the lesser of 3 evils
thank u all guys for ur help it is really appreciate it
I switched, and I don't regret it.
However, it came with a bit of a shock. Basically, you know how Android pretty much allows your phone to be a computer replacement, with all sorts of features from USB OTG to a Linux terminal? Forget it. Windows Phone is actually a phone first - a tool used to communicate with people. And it is AMAZING at that - you have Skype integration, good clients for your social networks.
Of course, it's a smartphone too - so you have a great camera, with a camera button - which mean that you can always access your camera from anywhere. It has Microsoft's official office suite. SkyDrive sync.
So yeah. Windows Phone isn't meant to be a computer replacement, but a companion. And it does its job really well.
Oh, and you may want to get used to multitasking being strange. Just saying.
Ive had numerous androids and 3 iphones before...i just last week purchased the lg optimus g which was a solid phone dont get me wrong it was also the fastest phone i have ever used...but after 7 days i noticed that android just seemed boring to me as well as iphone. Heard the lumia had a lot of hype so i went to pick one up and had it for about 12 hours already and love every second of it. I was worried about the apps but i seem to be doing just fine not worried at all in that aspect. but yes much more limited app selection then android and ios. But im not looking back and im looking foward to a long relationship with my lumia 920.
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I switched, and I don't regret it.
However, it came with a bit of a shock. Basically, you know how Android pretty much allows your phone to be a computer replacement, with all sorts of features from USB OTG to a Linux terminal? Forget it. Windows Phone is actually a phone first - a tool used to communicate with people. And it is AMAZING at that - you have Skype integration, good clients for your social networks.
Of course, it's a smartphone too - so you have a great camera, with a camera button - which mean that you can always access your camera from anywhere. It has Microsoft's official office suite. SkyDrive sync.
So yeah. Windows Phone isn't meant to be a computer replacement, but a companion. And it does its job really well.
Oh, and you may want to get used to multitasking being strange. Just saying.
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couldnt have said it better. That was my exact thought. I was looking for a computer replacemnt but then realized i just wanted a phone with a nice os and of course little extras. Thats why windows phone 8 nailed it.
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Just switched today from my SGS3 to Lumia 920. So far so good. The store was out of white, so I got red.
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Ill trade you my 1 day old white for your red
I personally went from SGS2 to Lumia 800 which was a good experience, really. I change phones quite often though (got SGS2 on release, then N9 on release, then won a Lumia 800 around christmas, then got the SGS3 (in... july or so? whenever it was released).
I love the SGS3. It is an AMAZING phone. Screen is great, its fast as hell, looks great, even Touchwiz is quite great on it. Camera is good, fits well in the pocket, batterylife is great... its just a really really awesome device.
However...
I sold mine today. For about half what I bought it for in july.
I love the design of the Lumia 920.
I love the fact that I can charge it wirelessly, having a pad in the bedroom and a fatboy on the armrest of my couch.
I love the fact that I will have a speaker that lets me play music wirelessly by just placing my phone on it, that also charges my phone so it wont run out of juice.
I love the fact that Windows Phone 8 will integrate deeply with Windows 8 which Im enjoying on my stationary computer at the moment, and also to see how that all plays out.
I love Modern UI as done in WP8; its informative without being intrusive, its neat and tidy without being too rigid for personalization, its aestethically nice and functional.
I love the fact that the camera has a floating lens which will make my time ahead with my kittens far more enjoyable to film.
I love the fact that despide their best efforts, none of the competing phones on either platform looks half as good as Nokias unibody design (N9/L800/L900/L920).
I love the black buttons on the side contrasting the white phone with the black screen/bezel.
I love it.
for the record.
Just got my pad today, that is a sweet added bonus. I actually forgot all about it until I got home from work today and had a UPS Delivery .
I got my Lumia 920 today in white. I have to say that I am blown away by the build quality.
Overall I am enamoured with the device with regard to its smoothness, typing on the keyboard, the fantastic camera which takes photos in near dark that look as if they were taken in a fully lit room....sadly though I will be returning the device - and it really does sadden me to do so; but here are the reasons:
Facebook and Twitter integration are fine but there is no built-in support for push notifications. I have tried the official apps which suck and pretty much need completely redoing. They just give notifications when they want to. I have found an app called Rowi which makes up for deficiencies in the official Twitter route but am yet to find anything that will give me reliable Facebook notifications or the kind of thorough features available on the Android and iOS versions. On a side note, despite having Facebook Chat integration there seems to be no way to message anyone who isn't online through the Messages app, nor any notification when someone not on my friends list messages me.
Too many missing or poor apps - yes I know this has been said before a billion times but it really hits home when you start using the OS. I don't rely on many apps but there are many I 'like' to have that just aren't there.
overall notification system is a but clunky. WP8 BADLY needs a notification centre. I suppose that would involve getting reliable push notifications working first though.
I will probably come back to WP8 and this device in the future but for now as a familiar user of both iOS and Android i just find it too deficient to stick with in its current incarnation. I am really bored of both of those OS and considered buying a tablet to compliment my 920 but then, should i have to buy other devices to fill in holes in an OS when there are other devices out there that can do everything?
On a final note, anyone who doesn't feel too bothered about the things I do will surely love this device and I'm sure it will sell by the bucketloads but I don't think I'm the only person who would struggle to move to the platform without feeling many a frustration.
Good luck with this though Nokia. I hope MS put as much effort into WP8 as you have into this fantastic device.
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I got my Lumia 920 today in white. I have to say that I am blown away by the build quality.
Overall I am enamoured with the device with regard to its smoothness, typing on the keyboard, the fantastic camera which takes photos in near dark that look as if they were taken in a fully lit room....sadly though I will be returning the device - and it really does sadden me to do so; but here are the reasons:
Facebook and Twitter integration are fine but there is no built-in support for push notifications. I have tried the official apps which suck and pretty much need completely redoing. They just give notifications when they want to. I have found an app called Rowi which makes up for deficiencies in the official Twitter route but am yet to find anything that will give me reliable Facebook notifications or the kind of thorough features available on the Android and iOS versions. On a side note, despite having Facebook Chat integration there seems to be no way to message anyone who isn't online through the Messages app, nor any notification when someone not on my friends list messages me.
Too many missing or poor apps - yes I know this has been said before a billion times but it really hits home when you start using the OS. I don't rely on many apps but there are many I 'like' to have that just aren't there.
overall notification system is a but clunky. WP8 BADLY needs a notification centre. I suppose that would involve getting reliable push notifications working first though.
I will probably come back to WP8 and this device in the future but for now as a familiar user of both iOS and Android i just find it too deficient to stick with in its current incarnation. I am really bored of both of those OS and considered buying a tablet to compliment my 920 but then, should i have to buy other devices to fill in holes in an OS when there are other devices out there that can do everything?
On a final note, anyone who doesn't feel too bothered about the things I do will surely love this device and I'm sure it will sell by the bucketloads but I don't think I'm the only person who would struggle to move to the platform without feeling many a frustration.
Good luck with this though Nokia. I hope MS put as much effort into WP8 as you have into this fantastic device.
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From what I understand, all that you listed as your reasons are known shortcomings that have been stated will be addressed. I can completely understand where you are coming from though.
It is frustrating as much as anything especially since they haven't said when those problems will be fixed.
I currently have an Atrix with AT&T. While the phone is a good one, I just can't find a rom I am happy with and Moto has dropped support as well so we are kinda SOL. I have pegged the 920 as my next phone and have been reading extensively about it for weeks and weeks.
My wife (currently on an iPhone 4) and I plan to swap over to the 920 during the BlackFriday specials. I hope much of that is fixed by then, but I think that is wishful thinking....
It is good to hear what people don't like about the phone as well, as so many are still "high on the new device" that the dislikes are not too well known yet.
Thanks for posting!!
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The only thing I miss is the tight google integration and apps. Its a hard choice between my one x on cm10 with 4.2 gapps.
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hi
iam rly confused between those 2 phones
any1 tried them both? tell me ur opinion plz
thanks
I have both. I decided to get the Note 8.0 and stick with the 920 as my daily driver. There are things I love about both wp8 and the samsung note series. This allows me to have both.
If I had to choose, I would still likely choose the 920. Overall it is just a better device IMO. Of course, if apps a a serious requirement for you, android obviously still has more selections. I just find windows phone has the best UI. There was a exclusive Halo app announced today for Windows Phone 8 and RT though.
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in my opinion i choise Note 2 . Reason is Android.
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I have both. I decided to get the Note 8.0 and stick with the 920 as my daily driver. There are things I love about both wp8 and the samsung note series. This allows me to have both.
If I had to choose, I would still likely choose the 920. Overall it is just a better device IMO. Of course, if apps a a serious requirement for you, android obviously still has more selections. I just find windows phone has the best UI. There was a exclusive Halo app announced today for Windows Phone 8 and RT though.
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thanks for ur answer
can u tell me more about why u say lumia 920 better? is its screen big enough or small?as i will use it for reading e-books and surfingh the internet..is the fnt readable? and writing alot...iam not intensive gamer so it doesnt matter...........thanks in advance
The screen on the Lumia is large enough for me. The Note II screen is obviously larger but I believe the PPI is higher on the Lumia. The Lumia is the best in direct sunlight for sure, if that is a consideration.
I think if reading is your biggest concern, the note II is larger but the Lumia is sharper. Also, obviously the Lumia is more pocket friendly.
There are so many considerations that it is impossible to recommend either 100%. I have no bias toward either Android or WP8. To me, pick the best tool for the job.
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I'm not sure I would like to read eBooks on either one of them - I think both screens are too small for that use case but that of course is just my personal opinion. For surfing the internet and reading articles I never had any issues with the screen size of my 920. I prefer the 920 over my Ativ S (basically an SGS3 with WP8) for reading because the PenTile display in the Ativ S makes white backgrounds look grainier/dirtier than the RGB LCD in the 920. Of course the Note 2 has an RGB AMOLED so this might not be an issue there (never did a side by side comparison).
Battery life seems to be better on the Note 2 though - at least in standby.
What are your other requirements? Would you use the stylus on the note for drawings or writing notes? Are you into photography so that the superior camera in the 920 would be of benefit to you? Nokia has true offline navigation capability if you are traveling a lot abroad but Google Maps on the Note II has a better POI database according to many.
While i only have tried Galaxy s3, note 2, and various other "modern" android Devices only for a short time, i prefer the lumia 920.
Androids play store is a bit bigger, but that is no real problem, as wp is coming along nicely.
In daily use, you will notice that android is really lagging, and also that apps is crashing.
This is not something I have experienced with my Lumia 920.
Furthermore, Nokia provides here maps and here drive+.
These programs gives you offline maps and turn by turn navigation for most of the world.
Another advantage with wp8 is skydrive.
The phone uploads all my pictures and videos to skydrive, and on my computer and tablets, which all is running windows 8 and windows rt,
The pictures appear instantly.
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in my opinion i choise Note 2 . Reason is Android.
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i choose Lumia 920... reason is Android
I have both as well.
Note2: +: Big screen, sd card, removable battery, tons of software in android, highly customizable interface, rootable and customs roms
-: a bit unwieldy, tough to see in sunlight, looks kind of cheap, no camera button
Lumia 920: +: Premium feel and design, smaller screen if you want that, don't need to mess around with settings much, simpler interface, better camera
-: Limited software, heavy for some, no sd card, no removable battery, camera button, all buttons on right
Do you want it as primarily a phone or as a phablet is the question.
I'm finding the limitations of wp8 becoming increasingly annoying. You may want to consider the galaxy s4 and the htc one which are closer in size to the 920.
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You may want to consider the htc
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i choose Lumia 920... reason is Android
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Nice one. I agree.
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Nice one. I agree.
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I bought my wife the HTC One (M7) and I don't regret it being her 1st Android device...it runs flawless and the display is the best I've ever seen on any device and her being in the medical profession Android's apps in her field made sense. As for me, I don't play games and I am a full-time college student and Windows Phone does exactly what I need it to do and despite it's limitations there isn't a 3rd party or Homebrew app that did a lesser job than the branded apps. We have T-Mobile where our kids live and barely an AT&T signal and where we live right out no T-Mobile whatsoever and Straight Talk (AT&T) HSPA+ in a place I thought we'd never get it, so VoIP is important which is my one pet peeve with WP. Skype gets it done but it just pisses me off that the brain trust at Microsoft failed and betrayed those who grew up with Windows Mobile through the WP7.x upgrade and left us in the cold with only a Start Menu and dead development today. It's easier said than done to buy a new smart phone every year.
Over the last years, I usually have bought 3-4 smartphones each year, one iPhone back in 2009, and after that, several android phones.
My first android phone was the htc desire, a phone with 150 Mb internal memory.
I regret ever buying it. I also had a lg optimus 3d, a phone with several nice features, but it still had that poor operating system called android.
So, eventually I got the Lumia 900, a wp 7-phone. I really got to enjoy wp, so now I have the Lumia 920. This phone is simply the best phone I ever had. I am now waiting for the rumoured Nokia eos.
I am convinced that it will be worth the waiting.
But for now, I am convinced that my 920 will suffice,
And I will without hesitation recommend this phone to anybody who is asking.
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Over the last years, I usually have bought 3-4 smartphones each year, one iPhone back in 2009, and after that, several android phones.
My first android phone was the htc desire, a phone with 150 Mb internal memory.
I regret ever buying it. I also had a lg optimus 3d, a phone with several nice features, but it still had that poor operating system called android.
So, eventually I got the Lumia 900, a wp 7-phone. I really got to enjoy wp, so now I have the Lumia 920. This phone is simply the best phone I ever had. I am now waiting for the rumoured Nokia eos.
I am convinced that it will be worth the waiting.
But for now, I am convinced that my 920 will suffice,
And I will without hesitation recommend this phone to anybody who is asking.
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I will suggest Lumia 920, and if display size is not a concern go for iphone it has apps and performance.
Don't go for Android, i have S4 even it lags a lot of times and Random reboots comes free with Android, but i never had any lag in my lumia 920 or iphone 5
WP8 is far better then Android
I've owned a Galaxy SI, SII and SIII (which I still use). I picked up a 920 for testing apps my company is developing on W8, and although initially I enjoyed the 920, it now spends most of its time in my computer bag, while I'm back to using the S3. Why? Severely limited apps, especially in the tools/utilities area, infuriating restrictions on music player apps and supporting utilities, no call blocking apps, etc.
I like to tinker- this phone is not for my kind of consumer. It's great for those who have no desire to customize- smooth as butter and easy to use interface, great camera, competent music player, excellent battery life. But I want more than that- I want, for example, an app with a 4-band parametric EQ, a themed, customized UI, ROM control and a custom kernel to overclock/undervolt/manage memory, wifi tethering, etc...
I have both. Would never replace Note 2 with any phone. I like huge display. Note 2 offers me better readability, easier documents handling, editing and sending. I like the fact that I can customise keyboard (using SwiftKey), widgets, fast access to applications.
Lumia 920 has great navigation. Great camera.
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Note2 is good but android is still buggy
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I have both and chose the 920 for two reasons: email on WP much nicer and I am now bored with flashing custom roms and tweaking launchers, too much time wasted. Android has a way of sucking you into endless process of perfecting your phone (so much so you forget why you need a phone in the first place!)
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I have both and chose the 920 for two reasons: email on WP much nicer and I am now bored with flashing custom roms and tweaking launchers, too much time wasted. Android has a way of sucking you into endless process of perfecting your phone (so much so you forget why you need a phone in the first place!)
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I very much agree with you, if you have a lot of spare time or if you just want to kill time and if your phone is everything for you then go for Android, if you want a smartphone that works as a smartphone out of the box go for WP8 or iOS
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iam rly confused between those 2 phones
any1 tried them both? tell me ur opinion plz
thanks
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GO for Lumia 920. I recently switched form Galaxy note 2 and i am really enjoying it. All the necessary applications are available in WP8 and most importantly i am impressed with the smoothness and lag free interface of wp8. The lumia 920 is handy and you can use it one hand only , while with note 2 you have to use both hands.
If you ask me , go for lumia 920 !
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I have both and chose the 920 for two reasons: email on WP much nicer and I am now bored with flashing custom roms and tweaking launchers, too much time wasted. Android has a way of sucking you into endless process of perfecting your phone (so much so you forget why you need a phone in the first place!)
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Exactly true. thats the reason i switched from note 2 to lumia 920
Why not have both. I use lumia 920 for day to day activities n note2 for the browsing fun games etc...
Jotted from Note II near you.
Hi Guys,
After owning several iPhones back in the day (up to the 3GS) and then Nexus One, Nexus S and Nexus 4 (skipped the Galaxy Nexus) and a Nexus 7 tablet, always on (unrooted) stock Android, I couldn't resist the temptation and got myself a 32GB LG G2 (European version).
Why not wait a few weeks for the Nexus 5 ?
The main reason is that the LG G2 has just the perfect hardware specs for me, there is nothing I would realistically want more. The Nexus 5 will have smaller screen and smaller battery. Also, the last 3 versions of Android did not bring any significant useable stuff to the table in order to make me really want to update, so the newest Android update is not so important to have.
The other reason is that I am really bored of stock Android. There are some things that Google will stubbornly never add or change, and I'm not one to install custom ROMs all day. For example, I can't set different sound volumes for the call ringtones and notification ringtones. And the notification LED is so neglected by the stock Android (on phones that have it). I gave my "old" Nexus 4 to my girlfriend, and although she loves to speed over her old Galaxy S Advance, she immediately begun asking where are the "gimmicks" that Samsung included into its software and that she used all the time. This is saying something.
One minor reason is that I have had hardware problems ALL of my Nexus devices, despite the fact that I take great care of them: the Nexus One's power button became loose and broke over time (HTC support really sucks !), the Nexus S capacitive sensor burned in a corner (display assembly replacement), the Nexus 7 speakers broke and now sound is very distorted. The Nexus 4 screen was a bit yellowish when I received it, I read that it's from the glue bonding the glass layers, it improved over time but never had the correct colors, it always had a subtle yellow tint to it.
Why LG G2 ?
Just a quick glance at the competition and my previous experience with various brands made me choose the G2. The iPhone is really out of question due to the microscopic screen and lack of notification LED (it's incredible how a business user can live without a notification LED), the Galaxy S4 and HTC One have outdated hardware (I mean, if I pay the same price, why not get the latest hardware), the HTC One has a microscopic, unusable notification LED (and I don't wish you to need something from the HTC technical support !), the Galaxy Note 3 is really too big. I have never used a spare battery with any of my phones, and never used a microSD card, so these missing features are just not minuses for me. The lack of removable battery (and thus the inclusion of a bigger battery) is in fact a huge plus.
The Motorola MotoX has a very nice notification feature, but it pulsates too slow (indicating battery concerns) and the rest of the hardware is too average and I can't see it as an upgrade over the Nexus 4 (plus it's not available in Europe although I could get it if I really wanted to).
The LG G2 hardware
I will say that the excellent, biggest-in-class display, the impressive battery life and the very small bezels (phone fits in my front jeans pocket !), combined with the killer 'Knock On' feature make this phone an easy choice over any other phone right now, hardware-wise. Not to mention the newest Snapdragon 800 processor. I am even pleased by its camera capability, pictures always look very sharp because of the optical stabilization, although there is too much noise reduction and loss of detail (however resized for web/facebook, pictures look great). The fact that it has an FM radio is a huge plus for me, because I needed a radio to listen to my favorite talk show between the parking lot and my home, and it's proven to do its job great so far
The LG G2 software
Believe me when I say this, the stock Android is extremely boring compared to LGs software. It's so refreshing to see many user-needed features included in their software. I don't care for most of them, but they don't get in the way either. However, some of them are really useful and I never see Google implementing them in their stock Android. For example, I can now set different ringtone volumes for notifications and calls, I can access the phone files from my computer over my home network, I have a very customizable battery saver that kicks in when needed, etc.
There is only one thing that bothers my in LG G2's software: the notification drawer has some items that you can never remove from there, like the screen brightness, ringtone volume and a row with some shortcuts. It's not unbearable, but I prefer that to only be used for notifications. At least they could move their bloatware controls *after* all the notifications instead of before them.
Conclusion
I really like the LG G2. I think it trumps every other phone at this moment, but this is not the important thing. The important thing is that I don't have to charge my phone every day (it sometimes lasts 3+ days !), it has a great screen for web reading and browsing and it's just a well-designed phone.
Good review, vanilla android was a performance necessity when phones weren't power houses. I too enjoy the gadgetry of mfg skins. I still like stock android for my tablet, but for my primary device, I like the bells and whistles.
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Thnx for this review. I love my g2 more lol!
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Well i suppose the camera is better than just for facebook and instagram. Its a 13mp for god's sake!
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Well i suppose the camera is better than just for facebook and instagram. Its a 13mp for god's sake!
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The megapixel count really doesn't matter, if you take a picture with an old 5 Megapixel Canon DSLR you will blow any smartphone out if the water. The pixel size / sensor size and lens quality does matter a lot.
The LG G2 camera is quite surprisingly good for a smartphone camera with a 1/3 inch sensor. The lens seems very good. But the resulting image is heavily post-processed to eliminate noise due to small pixel phtosites. Unfortunately fine detail is gone as well, but this is only visible on full-size images. Basically the camera software is optimized for instant picture sharing with little to no user post-processing, which is a correct thing to do in a smartphone.
I for one would prefer a noisier but more detailed image which I could post-process with a dedicated suite like Adobe's Lightroom. But I guess this is what big cameras are for...
Thanks for this review. I like it
Nexus 5 = Crap
This are the technical characteristics of the upcoming Nexuseless 5, I prefer LG G2 ever.
4.95″ 1080p display
32GB and 16GB internal storage
2GB RAM
MSM8974 aka Snapdragon 800 at 2.3GHz
8MP OIS rear camera
1.3MP front camera
2300mAh battery <<<<<<---- Why are they still using this crap battery!!?????
Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Proximity/Ambient Light, Pressure
Slimport compatibility
Micro SIM slot
Notification light
Wireless charging
NFC
Bluetooth 4.0 (Bluetooth 3.0 was also listed, but this is most likely an error.)
UMTS/GSM/CDMA/LTE compatibility
More details of the Nexuseless 5 here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/173744848/LG-D821
I cant make my mind up about the LG g2 or the nexus 5 the nexus 5 looks nicer but the G2 has better specs.
G2 in my opinion looks so sexy and honestly that's one of the many reasons I bought it. Its different with the home button setup on the back and has the specs to last a long time for me. Also running stock and with 5 hour screen time I'm way over 24 hours of use
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blair287 said:
I cant make my mind up about the LG g2 or the nexus 5 the nexus 5 looks nicer but the G2 has better specs.
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Looks is Subjective, IMO Nexus 5 just has two advantages over G2, Price and Timely Updates. That is it.
My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
hpsauce37 said:
My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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what kind of issues did you encounter when adding a launcher? and what launcher?
I appreciate everyone's reviews here!
sdsubball23 said:
what kind of issues did you encounter when adding a launcher? and what launcher?
I appreciate everyone's reviews here!
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You name it i tried it!
Nova, smart launcher, Aviate, Adw.....
To be fair to these launchers though they probably were not really issue's. Just little things that frustrated me about them, could have been the inability to do something or set something up with them, notifications, different custom options etc.
Most people would probably not even have experienced it or have issue with it.
The thing i was leading to really was the fact that now with a good dev community coming on board with this device (been quite overlooked generally in my opinion until now - availabilty in some countries may have been the reason for this though) that there are many choices for people now.
If the hardware of the device fits the bill then you are no longer tied with elements of the stock build you dont like and pretty much change every bit about it one way or another - just means taking that step of rooting and flashing. Dont get me wrong im no developer or expert in this field but as someone who is particularly fussy and difficult to please with phones and software etc (must be my ocd) everyone has options and its really not that difficult once you have done it a few times.
Bottom line is if someone dosent like the stock ui/experience you can change and have whatever you want
I know my comments above may seem obvious to many especially as we are on a developer site however a lot of people come to the site for opinions and information and who may have thought about making changes but never actually taking the final steps. I did and now i have changed the things that frustrated me without the need to just change the device again! Like i said i am major ocd and fussy about phones but it does at least give a little more longevity to the device if these options are here.
Hope this makes sense lol
ps - sorry didnt mean to hijack or step on the thread.
Thanks :good:
hpsauce37 said:
My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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The 5.2" G2 isn't that much bigger then the Galaxy Nexus 4.65". It is thinner but taller/wider by a few millimeters. Not much difference.
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[/COLOR]Awesome to see a "stock android fan" praise LG's UI..Great review from someone who obviously knows what the android experience should be....i have a vid on my channel on how you can keep the notifications down a few lines and stays were you leave it, all as long as you have a few notifications, you never need look at the top part.....some ppl do not realize this : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMdxvvZYFE
Ms D.
Cst79 said:
Hi Guys,
Why LG G2 ?
Just a quick glance at the competition and my previous experience with various brands made me choose the G2. The iPhone is really out of question due to the microscopic screen and lack of notification LED (it's incredible how a business user can live without a notification LED), the Galaxy S4 and HTC One have outdated hardware (I mean, if I pay the same price, why not get the latest hardware), the HTC One has a microscopic, unusable notification LED (and I don't wish you to need something from the HTC technical support !), the Galaxy Note 3 is really too big. I have never used a spare battery with any of my phones, and never used a microSD card, so these missing features are just not minuses for me. The lack of removable battery (and thus the inclusion of a bigger battery) is in fact a huge plus.
The Motorola MotoX has a very nice notification feature, but it pulsates too slow (indicating battery concerns) and the rest of the hardware is too average and I can't see it as an upgrade over the Nexus 4 (plus it's not available in Europe although I could get it if I really wanted to).
Conclusion
I really like the LG G2. I think it trumps every other phone at this moment, but this is not the important thing. The important thing is that I don't have to charge my phone every day (it sometimes lasts 3+ days !), it has a great screen for web reading and browsing and it's just a well-designed phone.
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well said...
welcome to the club! (happy owners of G2)