I need Help my toshibha 100 Crash in aplications - Folio 100 General

Hello friends, sorry I'm a big noob and dont know anything, I have a toshiba folio 100, recently purchased, and I managed to install the ICS 4, the latest version that is a tutorial on this same site, and is working well and is spectacular , but it happens to me that in some applications like GMAIL, Ice Age, the screen is shaking and I have to shut down the application, someone can help me change the screen resolution, so that does not happen again.
Thanks to All

I don't exactly understand the problem. Do the applications crash?
What do you mean when you say "the screen is shaking"? Maybe you're talking about the known bug when coming back from suspend?

Hi my friend,
Thank you for your feedback.
Yes, it is exactly what I mean, the screen shacke, but it already happened in all the situation before and after being suspended.
Do you have any idea about what I can do to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.

With the stock rom, did you had the same problem? I'm running it with foliomod and the thing that you described never happened to me.

It's a known bug of the Alpha 5 release, resuming after suspend brings screen to that bad behaviour. Only workaround is to power-off the tablet instead of letting it suspend or suspending by power button. This is the only major bug of ICS on Folio (apart from the lack of bluetooth), I'm totally satisfied of how ICS is running on it, everything runs smooth, I'll never revert to any other 2.x rom, once you test ICS interface it's really hard to use phone like interfaces on a 10" tablet

I may be wrong, but the screen stops flickering after some seconds.

DT84 said:
I may be wrong, but the screen stops flickering after some seconds.
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Yes it's stops. But after sleep,suspend its better to reboot, because it crashes.

I just try to avoid suspend/sleep mode and turn it off/on instead. Hope this issue gets fixed

Browsers
Using CM9 A5 ROM. Some browsers Opera, Dolphin, Stock and Boat crashes when surfing the internet. I noticed that Opera usually not crash but folio gets SOD when writhing something. Boat and Dolphin crashes when loading site or scrolling page content fast. I don't have idea how fix this. It's not happening very often but in half hour it can be even 2 times. Any solutions?
P.S: I use original boot.img with no overlocked CPU.

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ICS SOD and Crashes

Hello There I updated my folio to cm9 and found out that i cannot post on developement , so i decided to create a new thread to here in order to publish todays testing of the new rom.
First thing is that i installed with cwm 5.0.0.9 with no problem so that worked too.
It worked smooth and fast. Not as fast as foliomod 1.4 but almost.
I have SOD with no app installed only market. (i try to reinstall with the creator proposed recovery)
I found that i can install now the 3.1 and up applications like adobe photoshop and ideas .
I painted photoshop for a few hours and had a strange freezing first than after a minute and so it came to life by itself.
30 minutes later it freezed for good and it ruined the system so i had to reinstall the ROM...
I couldnt make a photo of the system message of boot error but it said 2 differend one wifi related and 1 driver related...
(sorry i have no chance to logcat because of win7... If someone pm me about a solution of logcat work in win7)
I am a newbie so i dont know how to use developer related programs and webpages but i try to share information with the community here.
All in all i think this ROM is faster and better than honeycomb mods and runs photoshop (i wanted a tablet to paint...)
I had strange wifi signal ups and downs during connection...
working:
- UI
- Wifi
- Bluetooth
- Sensors
- Audio
- Gapps
- skype, imo
- games (cut the rope), gameloft apps (x2 optimus version)
not working
-youtube app
-flash in browsers
-playing flash videos
I want to thank for all who is working on the ICS ROMs right now, you do a really good job guys, please keep up so we can all have a very good tablet working .
Im looking forward for solutions for not working parts and updates .
So glad to hear the photoshop works on it - that's one of the apps that I was really hoping would work. Did you say that photoshop remained pretty stable over those few hours?
I know that the rom is going to be pretty unstable though - SOD is not a real issue to me, but the rom corrupting itself is a bit of a worry!
no sod for me, stable rom, youtube works fine, remove the hd video display, we have to wait for the flash player updates the rom, maybe you should use the Opera browser.
Hey guys,
Flash didnt work with my 4.0.3 Rom too. The "SOD" wakes up after round about 30 sec in my case, dont reboot so fast.
Working Stuff:
Apparatus
GTA 3 (v. 1.2)
Youtube (not full tested)
Reckless Racing HD
My Issues:
Sound sometimes didnt work after "half SOD"
Wlan Problems (didnt connect to my wlan, after reboot 2 or 3 times its gone, this bug is since the Dexter 0.3 mod)
My Question:
Can i change the Resolution? The HC 0.3 Rom, had the best for my opinion
Anyone try a usb gamepad? This would be awesome with the snes emu
Can i turn off the softkeys?
Can i fix the 180° display rotation from bootup?
I will try some tests and things and give feedback.
best regards
Dave
A guy called Strozzi posted that
Screen rotation: OK but after having enabled it in the trebuched app
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Does that fix what you mean?
I find the whole 10 posts before you post in the development section a bit silly. I understand the desire for the forum to not be full of 'noobs' but I registered because I could help with an answer to a question that someone asked. Oh well...
Loving all your reports on ICS tho... going to give it a try once the app store starts showing everything! Photoshop is the main pull for me tho...
It was stable until the slowup and freeze, i think it is useful if u save frequently. It has the core funcions of everything you need in photoshop.
someone write that the flash contend work only with the opera browser, i will test this at the evening.
What i mean with the rotation is, the display looks greater when the screen is 180° rotated
greets
Dave
realmausi said:
someone write that the flash contend work only with the opera browser, i will test this at the evening.
What i mean with the rotation is, the display looks greater when the screen is 180° rotated
greets
Dave
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Ah yes, i dont think thats possible to phisically turn the display 180 degrees because of construction... It is the biggest fault in toshiba's development history to use a screen like this...
SO todays testing last update on cm9:
Still no idea on SOD.
I got into a bootloop from a normal power off than power on with wifi
After that loop i used mblasters recovery to reinstall it again...
got into bootloop right after intstall. I did a factory reset to get it started up again.
I got a system up and running again with no apps :S
I dont think this is app related...
I have SOD with the new recovery too. Looks like i'm the only one fighting with SOD. ( my device go to hibernation after 30 sec from screen off and no way to wake it up)
And.... after the first SOD i got into bootloop again... then with a simple restart it is working... i dont know what to do now. Maybe reinstall is not necessary if this happens every now and then...
i got the 2. time a SOD, dunno why its totally random....
Flash didnt work with the Opera Browser. I think i make a fastboot -w shortly and test it again.
Its possible that is the old genovea problem with the 256 mhz and vcore bug, with the SOD?
I think i install a Linux to get some logcat output.
edit: im a dumbass, logcat also available @ adb.exe logcat :/
best regards
Dave
really good job on this rom! Try it with ADW launcher EX and it will run completely smooth!
It's an experimental build and we already have a nearly stable rom, it just needs to improve the performance, add ondemand cpu governor (performance governor has horrible battery life), get flash working, use camera (not really important for me) and we would have the perfect rom!
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really good job on this rom! Try it with ADW launcher EX and it will run completely smooth!
It's an experimental build and we already have a nearly stable rom, it just needs to improve the performance, add ondemand cpu governor (performance governor has horrible battery life), get flash working, use camera (not really important for me) and we would have the perfect rom!
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Someone mentioned in the dev thread that there is no flash version for ICS yet which is why flash isn't working. This true?
As for camera - really not a biggie. They'll only get that working once the source for it is released. Not sure if that is...
The strange thing is that some people are saying this rom is perfect and stable while others are talking about it crashing and going into a bootloop... :/
EnergyUK said:
Someone mentioned in the dev thread that there is no flash version for ICS yet which is why flash isn't working. This true?
As for camera - really not a biggie. They'll only get that working once the source for it is released. Not sure if that is...
The strange thing is that some people are saying this rom is perfect and stable while others are talking about it crashing and going into a bootloop... :/
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It's pretty stable for me, I'm using it as "every-day" rom. Flash Player for ICS was released in December, also I've seen it working nicely on a GT-i9000 with 4.0.3 just downloading flash from android market.
I neither care about the camera. I've never used it. Now I rmember another problem on the rom: USB storage (connecting folio to PC) doesn't work.
Well I bit the bullet and have gone to CM9. The rom is great, took a while to get my google account setup (kept getting the unreliable connection error) but overall I was impressed. One SOD but seems way more stable than foliomod and the speed is great.
My only question is... How did you guys get apps on that aren't 'supported'. Two apps that I know work are 'unsupported'. Do I just change the build.prop or are you guys using a different method? Really want photoshop touch and RawVision on my device.
Oh and a small tip, I forgot to wipe when I upgraded and I had a working update from CM7. Only issue was that the market app was broken, but as that's pretty integral I had to wipe...
tested the new build, so far it has he same issues as the previous build, but Wifi lost when tablet is sleeping seems to be fixed! Also I've noticed that multi-mount sdcard app doesn't work now.
new version
I still cannot get the folio out of hibernation in cm9, however i figured out that my total crash message was not real. When freezed, the folio wont boot for a while (30 minutes or so). After about half an hour it is booting like nothing happened. Freezing was a rare thing with r1 now it is regular, so it is not too good. I think battery drain is still problem. Many apps is working corrupted or not work at all, but some other work that not before. Oh and you have to forget flash for now. I think it is still not good for everyday use but it is definitely not far from that. Hold on for 1 more month Nopy pls.
My issuses:
- Power Button needs to be pushed twice or more for wake UP from standby
- camera Shows mutiple (4) live pics, no Video ins possible
- No Market Download works
- home Button (softbutton on the side ) is out off order
- Touchscreen ins a little Bit less sensitive
Flash, gmail, and youtoube works, gapps Form goo-inside ins installed
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk (No, its my folio100 )
hitting several times power button solves SOD problem for me......
After instaling last cm9 version with 2.6.39 kernel I can't get rid off SOD...
hi there,
i just installed the new CM9.0.0.0
Great ROM, very good job, everything seems to work fine
Just one thing : i've got something like small electrical discharge when i touch the screen, i can hear the sound of it like static electricity
Am i the only one and what can i do?
Market not working
Hi *,
also installed cm9 with kernel 2.6.29.
A real awesome rom, thank you for the good work!
I have the issue that apps won't install in the market. When trying to download, folio says that an error has occured.
Any hint what could cause this behavior?
I installed the gApps with clockworkmod recovery.
renamed zinfile in update.zip, copied to sdcard
booted into recovery
applied update.zip to recovery.
Apps work, market also but u can't donload any app.
thanks,
Buggi

Flickering screen

I still have the flickering screen problem after .14update. Does anyone have the problem? I am wondering if Asus will fix this problem with future update...The flickering screen is really annoying to me..
Edit: Because of flickering, I no longer use ezpdf reader and switched to "My Library". Then flickering occurred when it was just standing by....
xijuan said:
I still have the flickering screen problem after .14update. Does anyone have the problem? I am wondering if Asus will fix this problem with future update...The flickering screen is really annoying to me..
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I didn't see this issue until after I upgraded to ICS... I only see it when I use the live wallpaper... lets hope our friend Gary and Asus can figure this out an fix the problem.
Just wait for the custom roms that will come out since the bootloader unlock is out. The Dev's will get all the issues ironed out and make this a great tablet for sure.
xijuan said:
I still have the flickering screen problem after .14update. Does anyone have the problem? I am wondering if Asus will fix this problem with future update...The flickering screen is really annoying to me..
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have you been able to isolate what applications or events trigger the screen flickering?
it is my belief that the screen flickering issues are caused by bugs in the video drivers. certain applications seem to be causing memory corruption of some sort that leads to this flickering. in my case i am seeing specific applications trigger the issue, and a reboot always fixes it. i am quite sure this is not a hardware problem given those characteristics.
i'm thinking that the best way to address this is to identify some easily reproducible steps, provide this info to Gary and hope this gets passed on to asus/nvidia engineers so that they can identify and fix the bugs.
i rarely seen the issue before the last update, now its constantly, i just did a fresh boot and the very first 10 seconds was the screen flickering.. Pretty annoying i might add. Bcokas here
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The only time I see Flickering Screen seems to be using Firefox Browser and I think the App itself causing most if not all the problem.
RonH54 said:
The only time I see Flickering Screen seems to be using Firefox Browser and I think the App itself causing most if not all the problem.
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+1 i have also seen firefox trigger the flickering multiple times
After the ICS update I get horrible flickering, screen tearing, and artifacting in the youtube app in power save mode. Like to the point where it will lock up, turn off and restart itself. Interestingly enough tho, that does not happen in balanced mode or performance mode. Any idea as too why?
Ultraman666 said:
Just wait for the custom roms that will come out since the bootloader unlock is out. The Dev's will get all the issues ironed out and make this a great tablet for sure.
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Once you used the customer rom, the warranty on your prime will be forfeited. At that time, flickering or not, you have to pay to fix that. Be careful when you do that.
Sp3cia1_K said:
...does not happen in balanced mode or performance mode. Any idea as too why?
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I read somewhere that the screen refresh rate is dropped to 35Hz when in power saving mode. Perhaps that's why?
I have ICS .11 and only have a Flickering Screen when i open the Youtube app and this almost every time..
jaypm said:
have you been able to isolate what applications or events trigger the screen flickering?
it is my belief that the screen flickering issues are caused by bugs in the video drivers. certain applications seem to be causing memory corruption of some sort that leads to this flickering. in my case i am seeing specific applications trigger the issue, and a reboot always fixes it. i am quite sure this is not a hardware problem given those characteristics.
i'm thinking that the best way to address this is to identify some easily reproducible steps, provide this info to Gary and hope this gets passed on to asus/nvidia engineers so that they can identify and fix the bugs.
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after reading the other thread, i have found out that the asus weather widget is kinda associated with the flickering. i also see this flickering using ezpdf reader and youtube app and brower. The brower and the pdf reader ones flashes more quickly than the ones caused by the widgets
Just another data point, I see flickering and strange artifacting all the time whenever I run Wyse Pocket Cloud.
YouTube flickers for me.
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Temp solution is to turn on ips+ and put brightness to the lowest to save your eyes from blinding lol...
Could this be a .14 issue?
I have a lot of flickering and apps disappear / reappear as apps open and close.
It gets very annoying.
A restart fixes it for a few minutes but then it starts again.
.13 didn't have this issues.
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Could this be a .14 issue?
I have a lot of flickering and apps disappear / reappear as apps open and close.
It gets very annoying.
A restart fixes it for a few minutes but then it starts again.
.13 didn't have this issues.
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It's an issue with every single update, depending on who you are
Every update so far has fixed some peoples' issues and introduced those same issues to people who previously did not have them.
msg gary?
I just updated my prime to .15 but the flickering still continues... I am wondering if anyone can PM Gary or tell me how to personal message him. I just become a xda member few days ago..so I am not sure how to do it.
Just updated to .15 and still see flickering and artifacts. This looks like driver issue. I had similiar problem on my laptop caused by drivers. Btw i notice so far its flickering on Firefox, YouTube and that Pinball game from nvidia tegra zone ( on game after i closed youtube, before it was ok)
Using the YouTube app is the best way I can reproduce it on mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCw0JaEMHFM&context=C33cbc36ADOEgsToPDskJksvkDMSjJ8PfyQsK7SSC1

This guys issues with the Galaxy Nexus phone is so similar to the issues with the TFP

Discovered this guy's videos today. Jump to 2:40 in the video.
I'm officially putting putting ICS in the pile of garbage OSes, and will be looking forward to the next Android OS upgrade that will replace ICS.
Which version of ics is running on the tprime currently?
I was experiencing all the issues mentioned on the video on my nexus when I was on 4.0.1 and .2. I'm currently running the leaked .4 and have no issues with reboots or keyboard lagging. I rarely get force closes but no more than when I had gingerbread on my last phone.
My system completely frozed after waking up with the MyNet app opened and selecting a video. Pressed the power button to put it back to sleep, it did not wake up to the lock tablet screen, it rebooted.
Android 4.0.3, current version.
Heck just trying to reply to your post in the stock browser caused another browser load stall. I had to switch to Chrome beta.
Android 4 ICS really has been one hell of a let down.
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My system completely frozed after waking up with the MyNet app opened and selecting a video. Pressed the power button to put it back to sleep, it did not wake up to the lock tablet screen, it rebooted.
Android 4.0.3, current version.
Heck just trying to reply to your post in the stock browser caused another browser load stall. I had to switch to Chrome beta.
Android 4 ICS really has been one hell of a let down.
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I think there is a confusion over force closes and not responding messages. Force closes happen when an app crashes, which I have experienced very little of on ICS on my sgs or prime.
The not responding message is a new thing to Android, which now let's you quit the app if it isn't responding. Now I have seen this message a lot especially in browser, but when pushing wait, it would usually work after that fine.
I have just installed the latest CM9 on my sgs which is based on 4.0.4, so far it has been much smoother in browser, and have not had any not responding messages so far!
Let's hope Asus releases a 4.0.4 firmware soon!
diablosv36 said:
I think there is a confusion over force closes and not responding messages. Force closes happen when an app crashes, which I have experienced very little of on ICS on my sgs or prime.
The not responding message is a new thing to Android, which now let's you quit the app if it isn't responding. Now I have seen this message a lot especially in browser, but when pushing wait, it would usually work after that fine.
I have just installed the latest CM9 on my sgs which is based on 4.0.4, so far it has been much smoother in browser, and have not had any not responding messages so far!
Let's hope Asus releases a 4.0.4 firmware soon!
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I don't think there's any confusion between the two, I've experienced them both on the Prime more often than I like.
Ive almost completely switched over to chrome for my browser. Maybe thats why...?
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The not responding message is a new thing to Android, which now let's you quit the app if it isn't responding. Now I have seen this message a lot especially in browser, but when pushing wait, it would usually work after that fine.
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No, that is not true. This message is not new to Android 4.x.
It just appears way faster than on previous versions of Android.
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My system completely frozed after waking up with the MyNet app opened and selecting a video. Pressed the power button to put it back to sleep, it did not wake up to the lock tablet screen, it rebooted.
Android 4.0.3, current version.
Heck just trying to reply to your post in the stock browser caused another browser load stall. I had to switch to Chrome beta.
Android 4 ICS really has been one hell of a let down.
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Yea, that still occurs frequently. It isn't noticeable off the bat like previous firmware (where flicker/tear/freeze & ultimately reboot will occur instantly) but if you put any "media/video (possibly even graphic intensive games)" idle for few mins. & wake up... you'll see the flicker, screen tear, screen freeze.. and ultimately.. Prime reboots.
Oh, and about the browser... deleting Chrome beta actually helped with stock browser. However, you still get "force" close and "wait" window pop-up... it just doesn't happen as frequently as before. However, I personally think this has more to do with "WIFI" connection/signal issue with the Prime. Closer you are to router (or stronger your wifi signal is).... the page will load quicker & see less force close.. while further away from router (or horrible connection/weak WIFI signal), the browser has issues with freeze/lag/force close/wait window pop-up much more frequently.
So, ultimately... this issue with "browser" will never go away due to "metal" backplate. =/ At least that's my personal experience & opinion.
And yes, the latest firmware update didn't FIX anything.

[Q] acer a510 keeps crashing.

hi!
i tried to ask on the main topic, but no real answers.
the problem is, uhm, that my tablet crashes.
once, twice a day. no matter what application i'm using...it freezes and i must turn it off and on again. it remains still with a black and white screen, on grey sometimes, no icons or images on it.
sometimes it crashes and starts vibrating like the aptic feedback until i turn it off.
other times my apps just close and tablet still responds.
oher times i experiment lag, or icons disappear fron the desktop.
other disappointing thing is the youtube search menu and keyboard flashing and vanishing, but only in the first screen with the 3d menu.
i tried doing a hard reset...then disactivating native apps....then installing app one by one to see which one is incriminated...none of it worked.
it crashes totally randomly.
1.044 WW etc etc is the firmware version
my question is:
did you experience the same thing...it's the a510, the firmware, acer, tegra 3..anything you want to say OR...it's my tablet that is faulty?
i'm going mad with this damn stupid tablet.
i previously had an ipad, and never figured android could ever be such a pain in the ass.
if it's android, i think i'll go back to ios.
ty
It's not "Android's" fault. Your device may be faulty. Have you tried relashing your rom?
i didn't do anything to firmware.
just reset, without any result.
keva said:
i didn't do anything to firmware.
just reset, without any result.
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Try reflashing.
sent it to acer for repair...they sent me a new one as replacement.
well...it freezes the same sometimes..and must force reboot.
by power button.
my firmware is av041 1044.00 ww_gen1
maybe it's software issue as it's been replaced.
my specific apps i installed...don't know.
quite disappointing
this tab is draining my life..
can't study with fear of a freeze or crash every single instant i use it.
i'm the only one who experiences this freezes...on 2 different tablets???

[HARDWARE PROBLEM REPORT] WebGL issue triggering freeze/complete reboot

Note: this is another issue reporting thread. In case of duplicate or forum location problem, consider (re)moving my post.
Hello,
Months ago I noticed a weird issue in the internal browsing system of the SM-G361F
When I browse to a website using the WebGL integrated API (for exemple: https://get.webgl.org/ ) the displayed shape gets glitchy. Nothing really strange first, just some random blink or short frame flashbacks. But after a time (generally above 30 seconds) the shape become more and more glitchy until the kiss of death: the whole phone process freezes, as nothing respond anymore, then the screen gets shady on some parts and bright on the other, until a kind of bar come across the screen and the phone make a complete reboot without any transition.
I already experienced such thing a year ago, but that was due to a bad root flash that triggered the freeze on any root access request.
The other strange thing is that I discovered it when I ran a web code displaying an "holographic" shape: however, the code worked fine the first times, and I did it long ago; so would this be due to a bad firmware flash or a system harm?
If you own like me a SM-G361F device and are not easily scared (this issue normally doesn't harm the device, it will just freeze and reboot) you can test it by opening the link to the WebGL official website.
Sharing experience about this potential issue would be appreciated.
I also had this issue. I experienced severe jitter in videos, and gifs in the web browser. It seemed to occur randomly, and would sometimes stop after a little while.
I didn't experience the device crashes though, but fixed the video by downgrading "android webview"
Sorry for late reply.
Atronid said:
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Hello,
Months ago I noticed a weird issue in the internal browsing system of the SM-G361F
When I browse to a website using the WebGL integrated API (for exemple: https://get.webgl.org/ ) the displayed shape gets glitchy. Nothing really strange first, just some random blink or short frame flashbacks. But after a time (generally above 30 seconds) the shape become more and more glitchy until the kiss of death: the whole phone process freezes, as nothing respond anymore, then the screen gets shady on some parts and bright on the other, until a kind of bar come across the screen and the phone make a complete reboot without any transition.
I already experienced such thing a year ago, but that was due to a bad root flash that triggered the freeze on any root access request.
The other strange thing is that I discovered it when I ran a web code displaying an "holographic" shape: however, the code worked fine the first times, and I did it long ago; so would this be due to a bad firmware flash or a system harm?
If you own like me a SM-G361F device and are not easily scared (this issue normally doesn't harm the device, it will just freeze and reboot) you can test it by opening the link to the WebGL official website.
Sharing experience about this potential issue would be appreciated.
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Hello mate!
I must tell you that this happens not only on your device but on SM-G360H Varient too.
In the last 2-3 days i figured it also happens due to high CPU usage and the Kernel goes into panic mode.
Try disabling Kernel panic from apps like LSpeed and see if it helps!
Thanks!
SnapDrag910 said:
Hello mate!
I must tell you that this happens not only on your device but on SM-G360H Varient too.
In the last 2-3 days i figured it also happens due to high CPU usage and the Kernel goes into panic mode.
Try disabling Kernel panic from apps like LSpeed and see if it helps!
Thanks!
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Thanks for your advise ^^
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Thanks for your advise ^^
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If you are on a custom ROM, then remove the AOSP webview for root -> system -> apps -> Webview. And then install Google webview from the playstore and convert to system app(optional).
It may fix the random crashes and freezes. It does freeze but no more crashes

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