Is S-beam compatible with other 4.0 phones or is android beam on the s3 aswel because it seems like a missed opportunity to limit s-beam to just the s3
tim_2812 said:
Is S-beam compatible with other 4.0 phones or is android beam on the s3 aswel because it seems like a missed opportunity to limit s-beam to just the s3
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I was pretty surprised to learn that Google didn't do it with the Galaxy Nexus back then, i always thought that establishing a Bluetooth or WiFi link through NFC was a "Well duh"-opportunity for transferring large files.
But no, S-Beam (i.e. using NFC to establish a WiFi-direct link and transfer large files) will only work on devices supporting S-Beam.
But it's probably relatively easy to add to AOSP or maybe even as an app.
So there's the standard sharing of small data packets with NFC (Android Beam), and then using it to set up WiFi-Direct and transferring lots of data (S-Beam).
Am I correct in thinking that the S-Beam app has retained this normal NFC functionality, while adding to it. For example, I can share a contact with any NFC phone, but in order to share a video I will need two phones with S-Beam?
I am sure that Android Beam will support setting up WiFi-Direct soon. At that point S-Beam is coming straight off my phone!
edcoppen said:
So there's the standard sharing of small data packets with NFC (Android Beam), and then using it set up WiFi-Direct and transferring lots of data (S-Beam).
Am I correct in thinking that the S-Beam app has retained this normal NFC functionality, while adding to it. For example, I can share a contact with any NFC phone, but in order to share a video I will need two phones with S-Beam?
I am sure that Android Beam will support setting up WiFi-Direct soon. At that point S-Beam is coming straight off my phone!
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Yeah, basically
edcoppen said:
So there's the standard sharing of small data packets with NFC (Android Beam), and then using it to set up WiFi-Direct and transferring lots of data (S-Beam).
Am I correct in thinking that the S-Beam app has retained this normal NFC functionality, while adding to it. For example, I can share a contact with any NFC phone, but in order to share a video I will need two phones with S-Beam?
I am sure that Android Beam will support setting up WiFi-Direct soon. At that point S-Beam is coming straight off my phone!
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I'm actually curious to see which "beam" does what. My GS2 now has NFC and I was testing it the other day with my buddies GNex.. I started by sending a web page but then we tried YouTube videos.. it transferred ..and fast as hell too. Pretty neat stuff. It'll be neat to see what S beam has over android beam
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Coreym said:
I'm actually curious to see which "beam" does what. My GS2 now has NFC and I was testing it the other day with my buddies GNex.. I started by sending a web page but then we tried YouTube videos.. it transferred ..and fast as hell too. Pretty neat stuff. It'll be neat to see what S beam has over android beam
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It's just the link to the Youtube video that's being sent.
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It's just the link to the Youtube video that's being sent.
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On the receiving phone.. YouTube popped up and the video started playing.
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Coreym said:
On the receiving phone.. YouTube popped up and the video started playing.
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Yes, because it was transferring a link to the youtube video, not the actual video itself.
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Yes, because it was transferring a link to the youtube video, not the actual video itself.
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You lost me. It didn't send a link, it sent the video. There was no need to click on a link after the video was sent. The video played automatically. You can slice it however you want, but it still sends the video. I touched to beam and it beamed.. video played on the other device, and yes, the actual video itself, not a link.
Sorry but I don't know what you mean by it didn't send the video. The video went from my phone to his. If that's not transferring a video from one device to the next then what is?
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You lost me. It didn't send a link, it sent the video. There was no need to click on a link after the video was sent. The video played automatically. You can slice it however you want, but it still sends the video. I touched to beam and it beamed.. video played on the other device, and yes, the actual video itself, not a link.
Sorry but I don't know what you mean by it didn't send the video. The video went from my phone to his. If that's not transferring a video from one device to the next then what is?
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I think that's because Android Beam automatically handles certain bits of information in certain ways. If you send a YouTube link then the receiving phone recognises that it's a YouTube link, opens up the YouTube app and plays it. You are right when you say you don't have to click a link. It's done for you automatically.
Take for example the sharing of a location. It doesn't pop up with an address in a box, instead it recognises that it's an address and opens the Maps app automatically.
If you want to test whether it's truly sending the video then copy a file (.avi or something similar) to your sdcard and try to send that between phones. So long as it's not affiliated with YouTube I think you will find it wont work!
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I think that's because Android Beam automatically handles certain bits of information in certain ways. If you send a YouTube link then the receiving phone recognises that it's a YouTube link, opens up the YouTube app and plays it. You are right when you say you don't have to click a link. It's done for you automatically.
Take for example the sharing of a location. It doesn't pop up with an address in a box, instead it recognises that it's an address and opens the Maps app automatically.
If you want to test whether it's truly sending the video then copy a file (.avi or something similar) to your sdcard and try to send that between phones. So long as it's not affiliated with YouTube I think you will find it wont work!
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I guess I'm thinking about it in simple terms.. I pulled up a video, tapped beam, and video showed up on the other phone.. if sending the video works this way, what would be the benefit of trying to do the other way? (Also isn't it much easier to use beam, then to copy files and such to your SD card to send?) Why would you go through the trouble of doing that?..to show that its not actually sending the video? I just don't see the point. Especially if it works as is
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I guess I'm thinking about it in simple terms.. I pulled up a video, tapped beam, and video showed up on the other phone.. if sending the video works this way, what would be the benefit of trying to do the other way? (Also isn't it much easier to use beam, then to copy files and such to your SD card to send?) Why would you go through the trouble of doing that?..to show that its not actually sending the video? I just don't see the point. Especially if it works as is
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Not every video in existence is on Youtube, maybe you want to share a video you recorded but don't want to share it with the rest of the world, S-Beam makes that possible.
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Not every video in existence is on Youtube, maybe you want to share a video you recorded but don't want to share it with the rest of the world, S-Beam makes that possible.
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Ahh.. gotcha. The above comment mentioned videos and I said video transfer works with android beam and the video in subject was a YouTube video. I understand now. Thanks for clearing that up
..hopefully you see where I was confused
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so anyone manage to confirm whether galaxy nexus (android beam) is able to send simple stuff like contacts/url etc to galaxy s3?
Coreym said:
Ahh.. gotcha. The above comment mentioned videos and I said video transfer works with android beam and the video in subject was a YouTube video. I understand now. Thanks for clearing that up
..hopefully you see where I was confused
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seriously u really need so much explanation then u understand? even a guy like me who suck in english oso know what the others was trying to inform u.
sianlang said:
so anyone manage to confirm whether galaxy nexus (android beam) is able to send simple stuff like contacts/url etc to galaxy s3?
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Yes it does.. I have tried it with my buddies GNex
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seriously u really need so much explanation then u understand? even a guy like me who suck in english oso know what the others was trying to inform u.
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Umm.. Have a little respect.
used my S3 to send this.
Android Beam, like previously stated just sends "links" and very small pieces of data like contacts. Android Beam (NFC) has a low transfer rate, therefore sending a video or a large picture - I cannot 'beam' a picture i've taken from my gnex to a GSII, I get the error that the file is too large. That being said, android beam does just send a direct link to the YouTube video you are sharing and the receiving device opens the YouTube video directly. S-beam in contrast uses wi-fi direct to send large files. S-beam, when being used between two GSII devices, will use NFC to open a connection to the receiving GSIII, negotiate to use wifi direct if it is a large file, then open a wifi direct connection between the two devices to send the data. using wifi direct the GSIII is able to transfer large files at very fast transfer rates, up to 300MBs i believe.
NFC , android beam, is only capable of sending small amounts of data, like stated above. Hopefully, and I havent searched yet so it may be in the works now, Android Beam will incorporate the same functionality of S-beam and open a wifi direct connection between any two devices that support NFC and wifi direct. Personally, I dont understand why this isnt already implemented with Android Beam, but i'm sure this will be possible very soon. S-Beam, to me, seems pointless unless you know a whole lot of people who have GSIII's. I'm sure most phones coming out will have NFC support, so being able to transfer videos. pics, etc via NFC and WiFi direct will be a very appealing feature.
I bought the GSIII for my girlfriend this week, being that i only know a few people who have Galaxy Nexus' i have only used the Android Beam feature a few times and this was just to see how it worked. I was very disappointed when I found that I couldnt transfer pics to my girlfriends GSIII with my nexus.... HUGE let down.
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Can someone please explain, once and for all, why recording incoming audio for calls is so damn difficult? Forget about the legality of it or whatever - my question is purely technical. What are the technical difficulties that a developer runs into when trying to write a call recording app? Particularly for the Atrix?
I've heard that "moto blocks it", but that's not really an answer. Is the driver "hidden" in some way? Is the stream encrypted or something? Is there no API function that exposes the incoming audio stream?
On phones that do successfully record the inbound audio, how is the app doing it, and why does it work on that phone, but not on another? What's different about the platform/software/driver/electronics/etc?
Thanks
Would love to know this as well.
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definitely a bump. My bet is that the API is crippled in that area for legality reasons.
Trust me, I'm sure your phone already has plenty of call recording software on it....
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Trust me, I'm sure your phone already has plenty of call recording software on it....
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Totally bro it like totally records your words and stuff and like saves em on an invisible SD card and the file is 0kb... oh and then if you check your memory to see if it is recording it sends it via the internet... even without a connection!
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Totally bro it like totally records your words and stuff and like saves em on an invisible SD card and the file is 0kb... oh and then if you check your memory to see if it is recording it sends it via the internet... even without a connection!
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+5,000,000
LMFAO!
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probably is the legality issue. worried about something being recorded during a conversation that can't legally be recorded.
Can't really imagine any technical difficulty that would prevent it.
If you call me its legal for me to record the conversation. There is nothing illegal about that.
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And if someone else is using your phone, it's not.
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Trust me, I'm sure your phone already has plenty of call recording software on it....
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Totally clueless lol.
Jnewell05 said:
If you call me its legal for me to record the conversation. There is nothing illegal about that.
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In many jurisdictions, all participants must be aware that a conversation is being recorded, or the recording is illegal.
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Thanks for all the replies, everyone, but I'm afraid this post is turning into the legal conversation that I hoped it wouldn't. I'm sure none of us are lawyers, so let's stick to the nerdy technical stuff we're good at.
So just to try to reign the conversation back in; there's gotta be some devs out there who have dabbled in this area before. What are the technical nuances and obstacles in wirting code to record the incoming audio of a phone call?
(Ya, I know about the 'speaker-phone' trick. I'm asking about the incoming audio stream.)
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Trust me, I'm sure your phone already has plenty of call recording software on it....
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Uh... ok. Thanks for that...
ChongoDroid said:
Totally bro it like totally records your words and stuff and like saves em on an invisible SD card and the file is 0kb... oh and then if you check your memory to see if it is recording it sends it via the internet... even without a connection!
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BAAAHH HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Skadoosh!!
See this: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117#c401
netter159 said:
definitely a bump. My bet is that the API is crippled in that area for legality reasons.
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Back to the post..
the Atrix, cannot record calls is because Moto left out a standard Android function from one of the libraries, the libaudio.so file. Supposedly that is the standard way to stream the live call audio (both incoming & outgoing) for Android programming.
Since other Android phones CAN record calls, and since other Android apps do work with multiple other phones--it seems likely that this is a Moto issue and not an "Android" problem. Moto have no comment on the topic other than "we don't make call recording software".
Someone capable of shimming in some new code or writing a driver that can access the hardware will be my hero. in another post I saw someone that was able to bring a driver from another phone and use its functionality to record calls
I would pay good money to record MY phone calls.....
I came across this idea from another board about a "virtual recorder"
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"For example, maybe we could develop a virtual bluetooth device. Similar to a virtual DVD drive in widows. There's no real physical drive, but the driver makes windows think there is and it can be used to mount ISOs... Well, same concept - make a virtual bluetooth device that android thinks is a physical device, and use whatever existing mechanisms to divert the audio stream to the virtual device. Then of course, the back-end for the virtual bluetooth could simply send the sound back to the handset whilst recording the audio stream."
^^Thats a neat idea. However, I am not sure it is possible to do that given the APIs and the inherent limitations of the platform!
That post about the "other driver" is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806451
according to him he "Because it wasn't open source, I had to disassemble it in order to write what I wanted exactly."
Also here is a link to android FYI
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.AudioSource.html
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Back to the post..
the Atrix, cannot record calls is because Moto left out a standard Android function from one of the libraries, the libaudio.so file. Supposedly that is the standard way to stream the live call audio (both incoming & outgoing) for Android programming
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Is this something that can be corrected with a custom ROM and kernel? I admit to not knowing much about programming for Android and how a lot of that works. I've got some programming experience outside of Android and Linux, and I'd be willing to cross over and work on custom ROMs just for that feature. Like you, I think it's worth it's weight in gold...
Hey guys any one else have a nfc problem when trying to share an image? I tried to nfc with the s3 and when the s3 sent an image over...I get the new tag collected notification and a text/directshare gallery path and nothing happens... i cant click anything and idk how to access the image on the htc .. ne one know a fix to it?
Same prob here. Even between mine and the one x
Same Problem
Also i have same problem
anyone send to HTC support center ???
I think you can't do this until Jelly Bean. NFC is only for like links and stuff at the moment.
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Q: I can't send pictures using Android Beam, I touch both phones together and it makes the 'link' sound and vibrates but then nothing happens, is something wrong?
A: NFC is not intended for large amounts of data to transfer through it. It would take too long (about 30 seconds for one picture). It's only meant for text transfer which in turn can prompt the phone to do other things such as sharing contact cards, webpage links, market apps and such.
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Please read all stickies and search before posting.
However, as mentioned above, Jellybean will probably support this feature -- but only with other Jellybean devices. I tried using my Nexus 7 to beam a picture to my EVO 4G LTE and it did not work.
I've had the OG evo, 3d and now lte.
How do I send videos through text messages? It's a short video, under 20 seconds. I trimmed it to be short(video of my 3 month old laughing). I watch my father in-law with his iPhone, take a video and then text it. Just like our phone can compresses pictures, the iPhone compresses his videos.
My video is 9mb now, if can compress and send via sms.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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I hate to dig up and old post, but people were less than friendly in the E4GT forum at times and I wanted to provide people with the idea that I do research a little before I post:
I need to get videos from a friend who has the same device as me, EVO LTE no rooted, from phone to phone. We only see each other during Jiu Jitsu and these are videos of my last tournament so I would like to have them.
We have tried:
Bluetooth (My device wasn't found, I have been on MeanROM he is stock)
Email (Videos are too big)
MMS (same issue as email)
Facebook (he could post them to his wall, but then I would have to get them off of there)
NFC (I am no dummy, but I couldn't figure out how to work it, plus the file is most likely too large)
Any help would be appreciated or other troubleshooting would help also. I am really just looking to brainstorm if there is no direct answer.
Maybe upload to Dropbox, SkyDrive, SugarSync or some other type of cloud type service or maybe one of the free web based servers like Mediafire, Hotfile, Rapidshare, etc... Just a matter of how large the files are.
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Maybe upload to Dropbox, SkyDrive, SugarSync or some other type of cloud type service or maybe one of the free web based servers like Mediafire, Hotfile, Rapidshare, etc... Just a matter of how large the files are.
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Yea that was my last option, he is so unsavy technically. But I have an account I thought if I just logged in from his phone then upload the particular videos, I was just concerned about auto-loading some of his other files.
hooover said:
I hate to dig up and old post, but people were less than friendly in the E4GT forum at times and I wanted to provide people with the idea that I do research a little before I post:
I need to get videos from a friend who has the same device as me, EVO LTE no rooted, from phone to phone. We only see each other during Jiu Jitsu and these are videos of my last tournament so I would like to have them.
We have tried:
Bluetooth (My device wasn't found, I have been on MeanROM he is stock)
Email (Videos are too big)
MMS (same issue as email)
Facebook (he could post them to his wall, but then I would have to get them off of there)
NFC (I am no dummy, but I couldn't figure out how to work it, plus the file is most likely too large)
Any help would be appreciated or other troubleshooting would help also. I am really just looking to brainstorm if there is no direct answer.
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Unfortunately, prolly just upload to YouTube and share.
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The sms/mms app compresses automatically. When i send something too large i get the animated circle and a message that says compressing.
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The sms/mms app compresses automatically. When i send something too large i get the animated circle and a message that says compressing.
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Only short videos that are taken from the MMS setting will send either way, so pretty much these listed above are the only options....
I am completely blown away with how terrible hangouts is. Other than aesthetics, the app is horrible.
1. No clean buddy list for GTalk friends. This one blows my mind. There is also not a separate list for phone contacts, which again, numbs my brain.
2. Much like the "most contacted" feature in gmail (I use the term "feature" sarcastically) you cannot change who is on your top list, nor do you have an option to hide it. You cant even erase who is listed there. This is absolutely garbage and needs to be removed.
FIXES:
1. Obviously, make a GTalk buddy list view.
2. Remove the "most contacted" area of hangouts. Stop being presumptuous and putting an ex-girlfriend on my most contacted list, who is no longer even in my phone or contacts list on Google...
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I am completely blown away with how terrible hangouts is. Other than aesthetics, the app is horrible.
1. No clean buddy list for GTalk friends. This one blows my mind. There is also not a separate list for phone contacts, which again, numbs my brain.
2. Much like the "most contacted" feature in gmail (I use the term "feature" sarcastically) you cannot change who is on your top list, nor do you have an option to hide it. You cant even erase who is listed there. This is absolutely garbage and needs to be removed.
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1. Obviously, make a GTalk buddy list view.
2. Remove the "most contacted" area of hangouts. Stop being presumptuous and putting an ex-girlfriend on my most contacted list, who is no longer even in my phone or contacts list on Google...
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couldnt agree with you more, thank god i nandroided before installing hang outs... no clean buddy list and no clean statuses... what a joke, a shame to bc the ui is beautiful.
What happened to voice call?
In google talk you could voice call someone without the video feature running concurrently. Do you always have to video chat with someone in order to communicate via audio? Am I missing something here. The voice only feature in Talk seemed to work a lot better especially with slow connections. How can I download the old Google Talk(last version) without have to do an OS reinstall on my phone and tablet? It really sucks that Google removed Talk from my devices under the guise of upgrading the program.
Beggers can't be choosers.
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In google talk you could voice call someone without the video feature running concurrently. Do you always have to video chat with someone in order to communicate via audio? Am I missing something here. The voice only feature in Talk seemed to work a lot better especially with slow connections. How can I download the old Google Talk(last version) without have to do an OS reinstall on my phone and tablet? It really sucks that Google removed Talk from my devices under the guise of upgrading the program.
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Go to Settings>Apps>Hangouts>Uninstall updates
you'll get your gtalk back
I know that current version is not upto the mark
but we can expect great additions later . After all its developed by those who developed Gtalk in the first place !
Also you can send your feedback , that will always help to improve your experience in the future :thumbup:
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I know that current version is not upto the mark
but we can expect great additions later . After all its developed by those who developed Gtalk in the first place !
Also you can send your feedback , that will always help to improve your experience in the future :thumbup:
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The current version sucks. Why take away something I'm already using that works and replace it with something that doesn't have the current features I'm enjoying? If you want to beta test their software go ahead.
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Stop being presumptuous and putting an ex-girlfriend on my most contacted list, who is no longer even in my phone or contacts list on Google...
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Hahaha, this. So much this.
To be fair, it's not just Google that does this sort of thing, the Windows 8 People Hub is even worse. Interesting that communication applications that allegedly put the user first don't make allowances for a tragically common component of regular human interaction - the break-up.
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Hello, I'm having an issue regarding NFC beam. I tried to use this feature for the first time yesterday. I tried to transfer a few different items between my EVO 4G LTE ( stock w Jellybean) and a Samsung Galaxy S III. they seem to connect and my phone shows the progress of the file transfer go to 100% but then says "beam did not complete". The galaxy S can receive and save files fine from my phone. Is there anything i can do to fix this? or s this a known issue?
Any help appreciated, thx,
I believe Samsung uses S Beam to send media, which the Evo does not have. I think the Evo uses Android beam to send contacts, web links, youtube links etc. Thats about all you can send.
Brand new feature! But not much functionality with this phone...
It works well with wallet, NFC tags, and YouTube links. But I'd like to be able to use it for pictures, videos, and apps, etc...
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I believe Samsung uses S Beam to send media, which the Evo does not have. I think the Evo uses Android beam to send contacts, web links, youtube links etc. Thats about all you can send.
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That sucks. Kind of a waste then if you cant transfer sounds/pics/ or small files. Thanks for the info though.
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That sucks. Kind of a waste then if you cant transfer sounds/pics/ or small files. Thanks for the info though.
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You can do all that, but only between 2 HTC phones. Like the other post said, Samsung can't send it to you but you can send to them.
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You can do all that, but only between 2 HTC phones. Like the other post said, Samsung can't send it to you but you can send to them.
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How? I've tried between two Evo LTEs and I couldn't do it. Had to link them with bluetooth and use a file explorer...