I understand that a root exploit for the xs is not available without having a unlocked bootloader. And that people don't want to work on or create because with the release of ics coming soon it will be patched. But what I was wondering if it was even possible to have for 2.3.7 or if anyone has attempted to figure it out. Even if one was released now wouldn't a new way would have to be released anyways for ics. The whole is it possible to root a locked bootloader question has been asked over and over without a definitive reason why it can't not be done and I just think it would be a good thread of an explanation why so this question is asked 100 more times or even discussing progress of an exploit attempt.
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Can anyone tells me about the advantages and disadvantages of unlocking bootloader? because i saw some people said that they regret unlocking it. So whats the point of unlocking it? thanks for anyone who willing to explain.
I'm just an user but from what information i got so far (pardon me if anything is innacurate):
Unlocking the bootloader may open up a series of improvements that were not possible before without workarounds, like having a proper custom kernel, a proper Cyanogenmod version etc. Maybe even real multitouch or 16 million colors are possible, but this is a bit harder since someone will need to write new drivers, and it's highly unlikely this will happen but... who knows?
But to take advantage of unlocked bootloader you need to DEVELOP for it first, for now it's like having root enabled without any root app available for it. Also, bricking the x10 was impossible, you could always go to flashtools and reflash your firmware and fix it if you screw up, but with unlocked bootloader there's a chance of actually brick it for real, so you must be extra careful.
Some people are so eager to have the latest novelty that they'll do it first and think about it later. But it's a positive advancement for sure, i'll be lurking the dev threads to keep up with the news.
Hello, I have just preordered my Xperia active from a local salesperson, but from what i see in the development threads, its nothing like HTC phones when it comes to rooting.
In HTC phones all you had to do is, unlock the bootloader with an update.zip file, root it, and then you're free to do whatever you wanna do from CWM.
I really havent understood how the procedure goes in Xperia phones, nor is there a comprehensive guide towards rooting the phone.
So could someone explain in simple steps what i need to do to root the phone? Or even is it worth rooting it since its so new and the development is more or less... inexistant? The only real custom rom I see so far for the mini mini pro and active is the FXP one which is in beta stages AFAIK.
Also about unlocking the bootloader. Losing DRM and TrackID is what makes them know that you have unlocked it therefore you lose your warranty?
Please enlighten me
Comprehensive Xperia Rooting Guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034087
For the active... there doesn't appear to be much, but if you have 'OCD' like me and like the absolute control... it's worth it. But to each his/her own preferences
Once you unlock, DRM is permanently gone, no more TrackID.
I'm not sure about warranty regulations but there is a way to re-lock the boot loader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335
Hope this helps.
EDIT There's also a way to unlock the bootloader and not lose DRM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
But there's no current way to relock it if you use that route.
Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
Although i still got questions regarding custom ROM's. I saw someone mentioning a insecure kernel, and using it before flashing a new ROM. Kernels in HTC devices are simply there for you to find out which one is best for your country and ROM. Is it the other way around here?
Yes i do want the best out of my device, but voiding warranty for something that isnt yet "ready".... It kinda puts me off.
hi dumraden,
The days with simply zip unlocking are gone either on HTC. The HTC Desire S of a friend of mine was locked. They call it S: on ..unlocked was S: off
I could not keep joking about who was so silly to convert his Desire S back to a Desire.. sorry for that
The step with the insecure kernel is to flash a stock rom where we know a method to use an exploit on it. Sony prevents unsigned firmware from beeing flashed to their devices (compare ps3 or PSP). Thus we need to make use of an exploit to get access to the device to make rooting possible. As root we are the master of desaster and can do what ever we want.
Warranty? Okay, there is a possibility to relock the bootloader in case you'll run in the case of needing warranty. Otherwise there are ways to make it that unsuable that even the support cannot wake it up thus find no real reason for the error.
This is not an FXP ROM, it is cyanogenmod ported by Team freeXperia and mainly released by FXP. It is almost ready. The smartkeyboard and camera did not work on my selfcompiled one on friday. FXP claimed camera would work. Could be my fault.. who cares. They'll get it fixed.. I think soon.
Yea i am a prior HTC user, have my Desire Z getting fixed as we talk ( i hope so at least ).
So basically the insecure kernel works as an exploit for us to install custom roms on the phones. Cool thanks for the heads up.
Wasnt FXP working with cyanogen to build a kernel from scratch in order for us not to have to go through the hassle of using a modded stock kernel for the Custom ROM's? As far as i can tell this is a breakthrough for Xperia phones since we will be able to have an AOSP base in order to build from there up. Right?
I have the same rooting problem. I use superOnClick and gingerbreak but didn't work.
I'm new to android so that keep searching and reading xda..
Then I start using android sdk & fastboot and adb mode said in one of the topics, but fastboot didn't work even though bootloader is unlocked.
I'm confused, waiting for help
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Its all here. Read some posts
Hi.
I got my prime a few days ago and would like it rooted so that I can use more of my favourite apps.
I've read lots of posts on the topic but they are written by members who have been following the development of unlocking/rooting methods and they reference too many conditions/methods/techniques that I'm not sure about because I'm a noob to the prime and ICS scene.
I am aware that I can unlock my prime's bootloader but I had my fingers burned doing this with my Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc; it left me unable to use OTA updates and I could have rooted without it (which was all I wanted).
So, can I root my Prime without unlocking the bootloader?
And just to complicate things a little more I'm using ICS 9.4.2.21...
If there is already a detailed guide to this then my apologies, I couldn't find it so please point me that way. If there isn't one maybe someone would be kind enough to fill me in on the basics and bring me up to speed on the current state of play?
Thanks for any help in advance
Yes, you are correct. Unlocking the Prime WOULD VOID THE WARRENTY, and you would also not be able to use the OTA updates.
Rooting WILL BE possible (hopefully). We used to be able to root the older versions, but ASUS "plugged" the exploit. We have to wait till they find a new exploit and then we will be able to root the prime....If it works like the earlier mods, you will need to use Voodo Rootkeeper after rooting, because the next update will probably get rid of the root and will need that app to re-establlish the root.
You will be able to use Ota updates after rooting, as long as you don't change any of the "delivered" files...If you change some, you will need to restore the originals before updating.....or the update will fail.
Bob
thintin said:
Hi.
I got my prime a few days ago and would like it rooted so that I can use more of my favourite apps.
I've read lots of posts on the topic but they are written by members who have been following the development of unlocking/rooting methods and they reference too many conditions/methods/techniques that I'm not sure about because I'm a noob to the prime and ICS scene.
I am aware that I can unlock my prime's bootloader but I had my fingers burned doing this with my Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc; it left me unable to use OTA updates and I could have rooted without it (which was all I wanted).
So, can I root my Prime without unlocking the bootloader?
And just to complicate things a little more I'm using ICS 9.4.2.21...
If there is already a detailed guide to this then my apologies, I couldn't find it so please point me that way. If there isn't one maybe someone would be kind enough to fill me in on the basics and bring me up to speed on the current state of play?
Thanks for any help in advance
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Yes. It is possible to root a Prime without unlocking it's bootloader, if it's running any version other than the .21 (The one you have).
I rooted my Prime when I got it (Honeycomb came preinstalled), and now I'm running ICS .21 version, bootloader locked and I'm rooted.
But sadly, for your situation, there isn't any way to achieve root without unlocking the bootloader.
If you unlock your bootloader, you can't take OTA's (As far as I've heard, as it results in hardbricks and failures).
If you want to have root at the moment, you will have to unlock your bootloader using ASUS's official tool, and then flash CWM, and flash a ROM that is pre-rooted, which will then also give you root.
- Moon
Bugger! But thanks guys, I guess I'll just have to be patient. One of the main reasons I root is to use ad blocking apps. Does anyone know of an add blocker that doesn't need root access?
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thintin said:
Bugger! But thanks guys, I guess I'll just have to be patient. One of the main reasons I root is to use ad blocking apps. Does anyone know of an add blocker that doesn't need root access?
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As root blocking apps access the hosts file within the root directory it's nigh impossible to block ads without access, For website ad blocking you can use chrome or firefox addons
Hi Everyone!
Just want to start off by saying I’m new to the Atrix, but not new to the forums or android itself. I’ve rooted and flashed ROMs and kernels on other devices for myself and others, but the Atrix seems different from all those, so I have a few questions that I couldn’t find definitive answers to (and yes, I know where the search button is).
First off “unlocking” the phone seems to be more of a risk than I am willing to take, considering I’m doing this for a friend.
So I realize I won’t be a able to flash custom ROM’s, but what can I do after rooting?
Can I even get CWM?
Can I flash a kernel that lets me overclock?
Can I do OTA updates? (I hear ICS is coming to the Atrix soon, which is why I’m not worried about custom ROMs at the moment)
Once I OTA update to gingerbread will I be able to unlock the phone down the line?
Also what are some other things you guys say are a "must do" for this phone?
I know I’m asking a lot of questions, but any help would be greatly appreciated (and yes, I know where the thanks button is too)
You can unlock up to and including GB 2.3.6. How do I know cuz I did it myself.
Second you are very limited on what you can do until you do in fact unlock your bootloader. CWM can only be installed after your BL is unlocked.
Finally there's a few YouTube videos that show you step-by-step instructions on how to do this (even on GB) so it's really not that bad. Just watch them a couple of times, go slow, and most of all make sure your phones battery is charged. In the end once you unlock, you'll be glad you did...
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Thanks for your answer, you've convince me to unlock it, but I have one more question.
Since my friend bought the phone new off amazon very recently is there a chance that unlocking the bootloader will be blocked, which I've seen other users saying.
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Thanks for your answer, you've convince me to unlock it, but I have one more question.
Since my friend bought the phone new off amazon very recently is there a chance that unlocking the bootloader will be blocked, which I've seen other users saying.
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No, use the following link to unlock the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...r UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE%2007/31/11]
Follow everything the command say. Make sure at no point do you take the cable out, if you are asked at any point to select a command on the phone but it does not let you just carry on with the process. It worked for me. Mine was locked to Gingerbread 2.3.6 build 4.5.141
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No, use the following link to unlock the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...r UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE%2007/31/11]
Follow everything the command say. Make sure at no point do you take the cable out, if you are asked at any point to select a command on the phone but it does not let you just carry on with the process. It worked for me. Mine was locked to Gingerbread 2.3.6 build 4.5.141
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+1 on unlocking usa att 2.3.6 4.5.141 with that program
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
One thing to consider though is that you´ll probably void the warranty. That would be the case in Brazil. IMHO, the benefits of rooting/unlocking far outweighs the loss of warranty. I would only let my friend know that even though it doesn´t happen very often, things can go wrong and you cannot be held responsible for any demage...just like we see in each every custom ROM disclaimer.
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader like the note 3 and 4?
Developer of TrentsROM here. It's been a while but I would also like to know this as well.
Ghettoroot for root. No unlocked bootloader, looking like it's just not gonna happen. You could always use Safestrap I guess.
As I have said to TheRock40359,
put some work and let your valid links/findings/research to the thread I made.
I am personally still in haze but in all the research I see the small cracks in all these schemes made to make owner lives worse for no good reason now.
This device is a s3 derivate. So researching s3 stuff as well.
I wanna make it happen.
Lets move over to "my" thread for that.
from what I read, if you have the 4.3 update (MJ9 firmware) you will not get an unlocked bootloader.. if you have anything before that (4.2 / 4.1 etc) then you can use CAUSUAL to unlock and root your device.
does anyone know if the ND7 (4.4.2) firmware has a bootloader that we can unlock?