Is there a way, If I get the photon unlocked, to use it with Virgin mobile? I know that VM doesn't sell the photon but I don't see why it would not work since both are CDMA...
If It doesn't work...are there any work a rounds like maybe changing the IMEI around with a phone that is on the VM network?
Thanks!
Why not just get the triumph
It would work if you did an esn swap but that is highly illegal
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slag02 said:
Why not just get the triumph
It would work if you did an esn swap but that is highly illegal
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You know I always wondered what would happen? Would cops be knocking at your door with a warrent?
I know someone is going to say do and find out.
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You know I always wondered what would happen? Would cops be knocking at your door with a warrent?
I know someone is going to say do and find out.
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I had a Samsung Intercept working on boost that they believed to be a moto krazr...
My wife had a Hero on boost that boost believed to be a palm centro..
No cops w/ warrants
just sayin'
(as a technicality, according to federal laws, it is illegal to alter, or clone the ESN/MEID from one device to another.. however... without opening a heated debate, the purpose of these laws was to prevent someone from cloning your device and making calls on your account without your knowledge.. there has been heated debate whenever this topic comes up as to the legality of altering MEID's on 2 devices which the tamperer owns and they all end the same... my personal opinion on the topic is the following: If I'm paying the provider for xyz services and I own the donor device and write information from the donor device to the device I would like to use, I'm doing nothing mischievous ....there is no harm (financially) brought to anyone... therefore, I did it. your views may differ from mine, and as I said it's a technicality as to the legality but these are my views)
Thatch for everyone input on this.
I completely agree that the law is made to protect you and your phone (spying is the governments job and they don't want any competition If your going to pay for service and pay for the phone, I don't see a problem with that. Lol, imagine your cable company makes you use a dell computer as a requirement to use internet.
As for triumph, I read is was a really inferior phone regarding quality. Some even back to the cheaper Optimus V. Anyone have experience with the Triumph?
I bought a Motorola Photon, and if possible, I'd like to get it running on Boost Mobile. I really need some guidance on what to do. From scanning the forums for other phones, it seems I need to do more than root it--I need to unlock it. Do you I need to use something like Pudding? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216143)
I realize at this point that I would not be able to use 4g with Boost.
Any help and suggestions are appreciated.
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I bought a Motorola Photon, and if possible, I'd like to get it running on Boost Mobile. I really need some guidance on what to do. From scanning the forums for other phones, it seems I need to do more than root it--I need to unlock it. Do you I need to use something like Pudding? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216143)
I realize at this point that I would not be able to use 4g with Boost.
Any help and suggestions are appreciated.
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You need a Boost phone, this phone will not work on Boost, whether you root and unlock it or not.
What he said. There currently isnt a way to unlock for domestic carriers. Sorry to say but your sol at the moment. Might as well sell it.
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Doesn't boost carry the other Motorola phone like the Photon? Starts with an E. I can't remember what it's called at the moment though.
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Electrify.....Not sure if Boost DOES have it. But figured I'd put that possibility out there. If they don't, Sorry!
No, they don't. Check out Boostmobile.com to see the phones they carry.
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Doesn't boost carry the other Motorola phone like the Photon? Starts with an E. I can't remember what it's called at the moment though.
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Electrify.....Not sure if Boost DOES have it. But figured I'd put that possibility out there. If they don't, Sorry!
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stellar7 said:
I bought a Motorola Photon, and if possible, I'd like to get it running on Boost Mobile. I really need some guidance on what to do. From scanning the forums for other phones, it seems I need to do more than root it--I need to unlock it. Do you I need to use something like Pudding? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216143)
I realize at this point that I would not be able to use 4g with Boost.
Any help and suggestions are appreciated.
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yes it is possible, but you wont find any help here. its a legal grey matter on the process. im sure if you check craigslist you can find someone that does it for a modest fee
I thought they did. Don't have nor want Boost.
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yes it is possible, but you wont find any help here. its a legal grey matter on the process. im sure if you check craigslist you can find someone that does it for a modest fee
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Thanks everyone for your input. Thanks especially to shabbypenguin for the information.
This can be done with most htc and samsung phones, but [modern] motorola phones are nearly, if not completely, impossible.
there is a big dif between rooting and unlocking the bootloader vs unlocking the phone for dif carrier use. u would have to unlock the spl to use it on a dif carrier. good luck with that. might as well get a new phone.
That is what everyone has been saying. It's near impossible.
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This doesn't make any sense. You want to move your photon over to Boost? Why?
If you bought on a new/upgrade contract price, you are already in the contract and can use it on Sprint. Why would you move it to a network that won't support it (officially anyway) and also won't support the Photon's 4G?
If you bought out of contract, you paid a high (full) price for it. Why would you bring it to a network with crappier speeds than sprint and doesn't support your phone's 4G. You would have been better off buying a Boost phone on contract.
In addition, methods to enable your photon to work on Boost can cause issues like SMS or MMS not working or not working reliably. Basically, its not worth the trouble and I can't understand why anyone would want to do it. If you want to use Boost's network so much, why not save yourself the hassle and just get a phone from them and officially supported by them.
Some people don't think or look at the bigger picture I s'pose.
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yes it is possible, but you wont find any help here. its a legal grey matter on the process. im sure if you check craigslist you can find someone that does it for a modest fee
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well i cant get into the legal aspect as im no lawyer but ive done over a 00 EVO4G,3d,EPIC,TRANSFORMER,MOMENT,EPICTOUCH,SHIFT,SAMMY7INCH TAB AND MORE! but i have yet to figure out the notorola PHOTON TO BOOST MOBILE SOLUTION! and im deperate as i ran out and dropped cash money for a NIB unit from the sprint store where i live! so if you have any at all help please PM me asap thanks
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there are other threads here about htc solutions but no other brands that ive seen anyway alot of the stuff was lost when MOBILE-FILES STOP ALLOWING THOSE TYPES OF THREADS
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there is a big dif between rooting and unlocking the bootloader vs unlocking the phone for dif carrier use. U would have to unlock the spl to use it on a dif carrier. Good luck with that. Might as well get a new phone.
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na not quite actually he would have to modify the esn/dec
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wintrxtrem said:
This can be done with most htc and samsung phones, but [modern] motorola phones are nearly, if not completely, impossible.
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ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE BUT YOU ARE RIGHT MOTOROLA IS PRETTY MUCH LOCKED for NOW but someone somewhere knows something! either way it sucks as i think that if you buy the phone you should be able to take it anywhere as it's yours ( hey the gsm guys can! why not the CDMA guy's?
either thanks to all
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This doesn't make any sense. You want to move your photon over to Boost? Why?
If you bought on a new/upgrade contract price, you are already in the contract and can use it on Sprint. Why would you move it to a network that won't support it (officially anyway) and also won't support the Photon's 4G?
If you bought out of contract, you paid a high (full) price for it. Why would you bring it to a network with crappier speeds than sprint and doesn't support your phone's 4G. You would have been better off buying a Boost phone on contract.
In addition, methods to enable your photon to work on Boost can cause issues like SMS or MMS not working or not working reliably. Basically, its not worth the trouble and I can't understand why anyone would want to do it. If you want to use Boost's network so much, why not save yourself the hassle and just get a phone from them and officially supported by them.
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its all good and some of what you say is tru but i personally rather take the one time hit of the full price phone versus the long lasting spendy contract! and far as speeds the spped that is different on the boost to sprint conversions is 4G which does not work at all as boost only supports 3g and iden but spped wise boost cdma and sprint cdma is the same in one! the diiference is in the handset
as you can run a boost phone like a incognito or prevail and they get 3g but you can take a sprint phone such as my baby V950 renegade which supports EVDO revA and the sppeds double at least. its in the cheap handsets where they slow you down if you dont believe me run the slowest of them all the motorola bali or mirro and speedtest dslreports.com/mspeed and then same line same area test any sprint hanset that you can activate on boost legally threw customer service and you will see the spped double instanly as they are built to be faster clearer and handle more data. thats why i rocked the sprint OOOG V3m RED EDITION for almost 2yrs shortly after it came out! and that was when boost mobile cdma was only in 13 test states either way to each his/her own i'm still tring to figure mine out but i'm close to quiting
Hell, Id love to see this on BoostMobile as well!
That or the GSM unlocked for TMobile/SimpleMobile (yes I am aware 4G and HSPA+ wont work, IDGAFRA, thats i dont give a flying rats arse)...
Sprint can blow me, At work and home and (when I was attending) school I had to use my Airave or WiFi, almost no service where I specifically was at, and I am sorry, but if you cant serve my home with even simple Voice/Data, I am not going to pay you an extra $10 a month for service I dont get, and before the "get another phone" nimrods chime in, I want the hardware on the Photon, there isnt another exactly like it at the moment (even the Atrix 2 falls short, and ill die before I use AT&T)...
Not only that but the last person I talked to in retentions leveled with me and we came to the agreement that Sprint is just trying to bleed customers dry by double charging for hardware (after-all, thats exactly what they are doing), its too bad he wouldn't consent to being recorded
BUT I left sprint after 5 years, convinced my parents of 7 years, and a few friends/extended family, and a few school friends/members as well (I helped them pick out and setup/tweak/config their new phones on other carriers, small price to pay to stick it to Sprint, 20~ customers might be a drop in the bucket to them, but dammit its my drop in the bucket! I hope the bottom rusts out!!!), so I am happy!
Using my HD2 right now, wanted the Photon, but until it gets BoostMobile (yeah, underling of Sprint i know, irony present), or an up-to-date cricket or Tmobile/SimpleMobile ability, I am stuck with mah HD2
stellar7 said:
I bought a Motorola Photon, and if possible, I'd like to get it running on Boost Mobile. I really need some guidance on what to do. From scanning the forums for other phones, it seems I need to do more than root it--I need to unlock it. Do you I need to use something like Pudding? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216143)
I realize at this point that I would not be able to use 4g with Boost.
Any help and suggestions are appreciated.
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After researching this for a friend, some months ago. This is what I found, from other sites. I have no personal experience, just reporting others experiences.
"What works is to call Boost Customer Service and Play Dumb. Don't volunteer information. Tell them for example, that you/your kids broke your phone and someone gave you their old one. Give them the ESN and if they ask you what sort of phone Play Dumb and tell them you don't know "Um its a clamshell with a keyboard?" If they tell you it can't be activated, thank them and hang up. Keep trying, you will eventually get an operator who will swap it in for you."
"Alright guys this is my first post to help you guys out. I just "migrated" my sprint number to a boost Mirro I bought at wal mart. I set up service of course first and for most. Then called the boost customer care line... You'll have to log into your boost account... go to support and contact customer care... The 800 number is at the bottom of the screen left hand corner. You'll have to of course call the number from a different phone than the one on your account. At that time when you call and enter in all the info the automated system asks for make sure you let them know that your calling to report a lost/damaged/stolen phone. It will ask you to enter in the hex esn id... you'll have to do this a couple times... Then the automated system will "give up" and put you on the line with a human. I told them my phone kept resetting and that I bought another, and verified the esn number from phone I wanted active on the account (touch pro), as well told the csr that this was the same style phone I had. No questions asked he got it activated, I did a hard reset on my phone, and then went in and hit update profile... (Not sure if I had to do the hard reset... but that's what active sync is for) All working just fine... Just thought I'd try and help."
Good Luck.
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After researching this for a friend, some months ago. This is what I found, from other sites. I have no personal experience, just reporting others experiences.
"What works is to call Boost Customer Service and Play Dumb. Don't volunteer information. Tell them for example, that you/your kids broke your phone and someone gave you their old one. Give them the ESN and if they ask you what sort of phone Play Dumb and tell them you don't know "Um its a clamshell with a keyboard?" If they tell you it can't be activated, thank them and hang up. Keep trying, you will eventually get an operator who will swap it in for you."
"Alright guys this is my first post to help you guys out. I just "migrated" my sprint number to a boost Mirro I bought at wal mart. I set up service of course first and for most. Then called the boost customer care line... You'll have to log into your boost account... go to support and contact customer care... The 800 number is at the bottom of the screen left hand corner. You'll have to of course call the number from a different phone than the one on your account. At that time when you call and enter in all the info the automated system asks for make sure you let them know that your calling to report a lost/damaged/stolen phone. It will ask you to enter in the hex esn id... you'll have to do this a couple times... Then the automated system will "give up" and put you on the line with a human. I told them my phone kept resetting and that I bought another, and verified the esn number from phone I wanted active on the account (touch pro), as well told the csr that this was the same style phone I had. No questions asked he got it activated, I did a hard reset on my phone, and then went in and hit update profile... (Not sure if I had to do the hard reset... but that's what active sync is for) All working just fine... Just thought I'd try and help."
Good Luck.
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thanks for the input but this is old news we are trying to figure out if this phone has a repair solution as far as ME)&*(&(+ or ES&^)(*&_()*+ thats all the getting the phone on the account is cheese cake ive did over a 1000 and thats being nice as i have been doing it every since boost mobile cdma was only in 13 test states either way hope i did not affend you but i'm really trying to get the photon on boost mobile and its not impossible at all just need leaked info or someone who works at motorola as a developer/programmer ? at least thats my guess
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thanks for the input but this is old news we are trying to figure out if this phone has a repair solution as far as ME)&*(&(+ or ES&^)(*&_()*+ thats all the getting the phone on the account is cheese cake ive did over a 1000 and thats being nice as i have been doing it every since boost mobile cdma was only in 13 test states either way hope i did not affend you but i'm really trying to get the photon on boost mobile and its not impossible at all just need leaked info or someone who works at motorola as a developer/programmer ? at least thats my guess
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As stated in earlier post, some numbers are illegal to change.
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Yeah, I wouldn't screw with it too much.
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As stated in earlier post, some numbers are illegal to change.
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Can you please site a statue or regulations that says that. Is this state or federal law that would be broken, or maybe an FCC regulations.
People just blur out that its illegal without any proof.
I found this article that would suggest that there is nothing illegal about it, but if someone can point me a source that would prove otherwise I that be great.
http://cellagainfranchise.com/breaking-news-unlockingflashingjailbreaking-any-cell-phone-has-become-legal/
Thanks
To avoid misunderstandings with this I'll post a couple things up front.
I am an existing Boost customer.
I have an old Boost 3g phone that I am transferring from ID data from to enable me to use my Evo View on Boost.
The old Boost phone is going to meet a sad end under a hammer.
So, no fraud, etc.
Table is running rooted stock HC
My question: I've done almost everything needed to transition the View to Boost, however, I'm stuck up on zeroing out the existing sprint esn and hex. I've tried a variety of ways to zero out those two number so they can be replaced with the Boost identifiers but nothing has worked so far. I'm kind of stuck. How have people succeeded in replacing the unique ID numbers on the tablet?
If anyone wants the instructions for flashing to Boost, PM and I'll send you everything that I've gathered up.
Thanks.
Cloning is illegal, whether you own the device or not. You cannot substitute the MEID of one phone to another legally for any reason.
I doubt you will find any help in here.
umm think I read some where people said Cdma workshop does something like that
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Cloning is illegal, whether you own the device or not. You cannot substitute the MEID of one phone to another legally for any reason.
I doubt you will find any help in here.
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you sir are wrong. it is illegal ONLY if the intent is for fraud. read the fcc rules.
Hi ,
I can't yet post in the development section so here i am. What i am wanting to do is switch carriers and use MetroPCS. I bought my photon 4g and i don't want to have to trash it or sell it since i am switching. And yes, i do know that my phone is 4G Wimax and is not compatible with Metro's 4G LTE service. That is fine, as i will flash the CM9 ICS ROM on to it which disables 4G, anyway.
I know that this can be a sensitive subject for some and that some people use certain methods to get around the restrictions on stolen phones. My phone is paid for and payments are current. I do not need ANY information that will lead to any topics being illegal. So. Let me begin my long and drawn out cry for help.
I have obtained my MSL/SPC code from Sprint. She told me how to get in and change my number by going to my dialer and pressing ##MSL#, etc. But i know that this is not all that is necessary to fully flash to MetroPCS. I heard something about changing information in some NV files and saving the changes, then flashing the desired carriers PRL on to the phone using QPST or something like that. I'm not too sure. Is this all that is required? Am i missing something? How do i do this ?
I also ran accross a site/program that makes the entire process of flashing to ANYTHING extremely easy and wanted to know if this looks legit to others. Here is the video on their website.
https://magicalphones.com/site/index.php?page=videos
If there is a step-by-step guide that someone knows of that applies to my Photon 4G, that would be extremely helpful. I do not understand why i cannot find a single site with a step by step guide on this. If i can get this thing figured out i will give back to the community by putting together a detailed guide myself.
Please help i really need to save a couple bucks by switching to Geico.. i mean metropcs =p ... Plus its bothering me that i can easily root and flash ROMs on to any device but i can't figure out how to properly flash to another carrier !!
BUMP ?
I really cannot believe how people refuse to help on this subject. It requires a lot of research... but why help someone on almost every single other topic except this one? It's just retarded if you ask me...
But to save anybody who is trying to do the same thing that i was time, i will provide information that pretty much everyone else refuses to give.
If your flashing your CDMA device to a different carrier.... Ensure that they will add your phone's ESN to their database. If they DO NOT, then don't even bother starting up QPST or whatever you use to flash the carriers info. Bigger carriers like Sprint and Verizon will most likely do it for you at no problem. Because you pay a ridiculous amount and they say "Why not".
I was researching how to flash my Photon 4G to MetroPCS for hours upon hours, only to find out after visiting a metro store that all software to add the ESN to their database was taken away from allMetroPCS dealers. Their are some people that say they can flash it to metro on craigslist... but if metropcs has taken software from ALL Authorized Dealers.... then how are they doing it? Stay away from those because they are most likely cloning ESN's which is ILLEGAL and you can do fed time for it.
This is why i kept searching and searching and searching... i thought to myself "If THEY can do it, then i can learn how to do it no problem". So either A.) They are cloning ESN's or B.) I haven't done my research correctly and there is a work-around to get the ESN added to their database. If someone finds out, PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW ! =)
If your goal is to save some money, have you considered Straight Talk? It seems like there's decent success using domestic gsm carriers, and it's pretty well documented:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664212
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If your goal is to save some money, have you considered Straight Talk? It seems like there's decent success using domestic gsm carriers, and it's pretty well documented:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664212
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seconded
Keep under 100MB data usage a day and you are golden. Been using them for just over a month now with AT&T's fauxG support.
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I really cannot believe how people refuse to help on this subject. It requires a lot of research... but why help someone on almost every single other topic except this one? It's just retarded if you ask me...
But to save anybody who is trying to do the same thing that i was time, i will provide information that pretty much everyone else refuses to give.
If your flashing your CDMA device to a different carrier.... Ensure that they will add your phone's ESN to their database. If they DO NOT, then don't even bother starting up QPST or whatever you use to flash the carriers info. Bigger carriers like Sprint and Verizon will most likely do it for you at no problem. Because you pay a ridiculous amount and they say "Why not".
I was researching how to flash my Photon 4G to MetroPCS for hours upon hours, only to find out after visiting a metro store that all software to add the ESN to their database was taken away from allMetroPCS dealers. Their are some people that say they can flash it to metro on craigslist... but if metropcs has taken software from ALL Authorized Dealers.... then how are they doing it? Stay away from those because they are most likely cloning ESN's which is ILLEGAL and you can do fed time for it.
This is why i kept searching and searching and searching... i thought to myself "If THEY can do it, then i can learn how to do it no problem". So either A.) They are cloning ESN's or B.) I haven't done my research correctly and there is a work-around to get the ESN added to their database. If someone finds out, PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW ! =)
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NO, they are not cloning,whats happening here is that this stores still have Houdini credits left,soon as they use all this credits flash will be gone forever...(unless someone do it the illegal way)
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Sorry that I didn't go into detail, hope this helps in your "educational endeavours ".
"the beauty of ignorance is possible denial, the disgust of the ignorant the lack of wanting to learn"
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I would love to see you try,lol
Also clonning is highly illegal...
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Illegal Cloning
Ok Folks, listen up.
It's against XDA rules to discuss illegal activities. IE; Cloning of phones.
I think you all know this. This is to include suggestive or subtle "hints", as in "educational purposes only". It's also against rules to "urge or tempt" somebody to engage in such activities.
There are lots of sites that condone these activities, but XDA is not one of them.
Any further discussion of illegal activities will result in thread deletion.
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Sorry boss I was completely wrong to even hint such things my bad. Will never happen again.
"the beauty of ignorance is possible denial, the disgust of the ignorant the lack of wanting to learn"
Ok,when I said "would love to see you try" I didnt mean to tempt him,just trying to discourage him,btw wont happen again...
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My daughter got duped and bought a stolen SGII for Boost Mobile (the previous owner's service was still active when she got it). Is there a way to re-flash it or hack it so it can be activated on her Boost Mobile account? If not, is there a way to flash/hack it to run on Sprint, Verizon or Credo Mobile?
Thanks in advance
I'm sure what you want to is illegal.
Contact the owner and return it.
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I'm sure what you want to is illegal.
Contact the owner and return it.
I has a sig
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Okay, well forget the "illegal" part (altering the MEID/DEC). It appears its common to flash phones TO Boost from Sprint and Verizon, but not the other way around (FROM Boost to Sprint and Verizon) - is this a correct observation? Even if I could flash from Boost to Sprint and Verizon, would I be able to activate the phone given that its not able to activate on Boost?
Oh and we did contact the owner, but since she promised to smack the ish out of my child so there goes being nice.
What does the sticker on the phone chassis under the battery say ? Irrespective of that, it's an issue to sort out with the carrier given it's obviously IMEI blocked. There is nothing 'legitimate' you can do to fix it, and talk of anything 'not legitimate' is not allowed here.
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Okay, well forget the "illegal" part (altering the MEID/DEC). It appears its common to flash phones TO Boost from Sprint and Verizon, but not the other way around (FROM Boost to Sprint and Verizon) - is this a correct observation? Even if I could flash from Boost to Sprint and Verizon, would I be able to activate the phone given that its not able to activate on Boost?
Oh and we did contact the owner, but since she promised to smack the ish out of my child so there goes being nice.
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Yeah..previous owners are like that.
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Contact the owner and return it
or just have a lucky chance to bump the IMEI with generic one....or else sale it oversea....at least you get yr money back
illegal, thread closed. Also IMEI changing is illegal in most countries so discussion on this isnt allowed either.