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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
Man I guess ur in the same boat as quite a few of us. Sit back realx, wait for clockwork, wait for ROMS, and prepare to have fun when all of the previously mentioned items to start appearing and enjoy having the beat hardware available at this point.
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you chill.. till the next episode.
We're close. Hang tight.
Next big thing is the official Froyo update, I guess. This thing is already flying so fast, I can't wait to see how Froyo runs on it. I had installed KaosFroyo on my old Droid Eris, which made it actually functional again, but despite that ARMv6 CPU's (or was it ARMv5?) best effort while overclocked to 710MHz, along with the JIT compiler, it just could offer me the experience I was looking for.
Can't wait to see what people can do with the Fascinate, though at this level of performance, I will probably be less likely to install custom ROMS. Plus, the Fascinate ROM has some very nice bells and whistles, like the WiFi/BT/GPS/Airplane on/off buttons on the notification screen, which you don't get with a plain vanilla ROM. Now, if somebody comes out with a Gingerbread ROM, I just might be interested.
I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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Have you tried switching to LauncherPro? That will give you a good speed boost overall. The lag fix should take care of the rest. I saw the same issues as you, which are all gone after these mods.
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Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
The lag fix actually made my phone run worse..installed it..and it ruins like a dream
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There is no need to move an app to system just to uninstall another one. I use ADW launcher and have uninstalled TW launcher. Keep in mind, when you do the uninstall you must have your other launcher set to default or bad things will happen. After the uninstall the phone will go into a FC fit. Simply reboot and all will be golden.
After removing TW launcher I haven't seen any lag, and I never applied the "lag fix".
Hope that helps
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Yeah I figured that was true, I just wanted to make Launcher Pro even more official by making it a SYSTEM app .
I'm going to give it a shot now. Here's to hoping I won't require an Odin restore of any kind...
jorge3687 said:
Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
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REPLACE BING OR COURSE!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/fas...11-got-google-widget-works-now-bing-dead.html
theicemonkey said:
Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
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NOOO WAY!! The Incredible I had doesn't even compare to the speed I'm getting from my Fascinate! The Incredible I even had Froyo on it!! That thing was crap for me.. Lets not get on the topic of battery life...
The battery life on the Incredible was no good, I will agree with you on that. But, in terms of overall system smoothness (remember, NOT games or multimedia), the Fascinate (along with all of the other Galaxy S phones) doesn't play in the same league as the Incredible yet.
In addition to my personal encounters of sluggishness on 2 Fascinates, 1 Vibrant, 1 Captivate, and 1 Epic 4G, a few of the reviews I read mention this problem as well:
"More than once the phone locked up doing what we considered to be basic tasks, such as switching between apps or back to the homescreen. The Fascinate just seemed to stall out, often at the most inconvenient times, and we were left to simply wait until it sorted out whatever memory or processor issues it seemed to be having. Comparatively, a device like the Incredible rarely if ever stalled out on us, even during heavy use."
Engadget, September 7, 2010
"...That’s not to say Samsung has no room for improvement...we still observed a few of the periodic stalls that mar the overall user experience."
Slash Gear, September 7, 2010
"As much as I like the UI I did find some of the menu pops and screen flips to stutter a bit."
Geek, September 17, 2010
It's not like the phone is "slow", it just stutters and holds in places the Incredible never did, like the lock screen, or pulling down the notification bar, or when long pressing to get menus, even with the lag fix, TWLauncher removed, and no live wallpaper (which are tweaks I have done to ALL US flavors of this phone). Even flipping between home screens on the Incredible is noticeably faster than any Galaxy S when both phones have Launcher Pro installed. I think it's just a question of pickiness when it comes to the smoothness of animations. Again, I have noticed these issues on EVERY Galaxy S phone I have encountered, not a single, possibly defective, phone.
I really, really want this phone to live up to it's fancy hardware through development from the great people around here, which is why I will probably keep it as a sort of investment. Here's to hoping the community around it continues to grow!
My Incredible with Froyo does not compare to the Fascinate with Eclair (no lag fix, TW still present but running LauncherPro Plus).
It's not even close.
Battery life on the Fascinate is phenomenal compared to the Incredible. The only thing I miss on the Incredible is the support (duh, it's been out since April 29) and the optical trackpad (makes editing text much easier).
Hi.
Even though I don't post here often I have been browsing the forums thoroughly for half a year now.
This issue has been bothering me since I purchased my X10.
I possess both an ipod 4g and my X10.
Honestly, I bear with most of the flaws of my lovely handheld but some things just annoy me.
It's RIDICULOUSLY slow for it's hardware specs, the interface is just nowhere as snappy as iOS, the colors are bleak and the camera is SLOW. just INSANELY slow.
Taking a stable shot is nearly impossible.
Now I'm running the latest EWJET rom, fully tweaked for better performance and now it's almost bearable but the screen looks like crap, I can clearly see the 56k colors and all the videos look disgustingly bad.
The camera apps, including vignette, camera360 and the default one all slow as hell and I'm quite frankly on the verge of selling the device for a loss.
As odd as it may sound after that long rant, the point of this post is not to complain but to ask for your guidance.
I'm quite emotionally attached to my x10 and the last thing that I want is to sell it.
Is there a solution to some of my bothers? At the very least a solution to the utterly bleak screen?
Thank you for your patience.
Sorry for my relentless ranting.
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Is there a solution to some of my bothers? At the very least a solution to the utterly bleak screen?
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Yep, upgrade to a custom 2.2 ROM
Perfect example of a speedy ROM that will fix all of your problems: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...miui-iris-1-6-5-froyo-prepare-for-the-future/ (since you have an iPod, you may like this)
No it doesnt matter what rom u use until SE change it you will only ever get 65k. apparently the official gingerbread will have 16 million colours
so it may be a case of manning up until then
its not really fair comparing miui on x10 to an ipod. ipod creams all over us!
i gotta agree with the op the x10s screen response compared to an ipod is terrible trips rom is good though and is worth a look.
the ios is so much faster honestly
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No it doesnt matter what rom u use until SE change it you will only ever get 65k. apparently the official gingerbread will have 16 million colours
so it may be a case of manning up until then
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do you think this colour upgrade, if it does happen will even help with the screens response?
i love my x10 dont get me wrong but i really get jelous the second i unlock an ipod/phones lockscreen. Its a million times smoother and it follows your finger perfectly. the x10 has great specs on paper but i just dunno why its never felt fast
alexsupreme said:
Hi.
Even though I don't post here often I have been browsing the forums thoroughly for half a year now.
This issue has been bothering me since I purchased my X10.
I possess both an ipod 4g and my X10.
Honestly, I bear with most of the flaws of my lovely handheld but some things just annoy me.
It's RIDICULOUSLY slow for it's hardware specs, the interface is just nowhere as snappy as iOS, the colors are bleak and the camera is SLOW. just INSANELY slow.
Taking a stable shot is nearly impossible.
Now I'm running the latest EWJET rom, fully tweaked for better performance and now it's almost bearable but the screen looks like crap, I can clearly see the 56k colors and all the videos look disgustingly bad.
The camera apps, including vignette, camera360 and the default one all slow as hell and I'm quite frankly on the verge of selling the device for a loss.
As odd as it may sound after that long rant, the point of this post is not to complain but to ask for your guidance.
I'm quite emotionally attached to my x10 and the last thing that I want is to sell it.
Is there a solution to some of my bothers? At the very least a solution to the utterly bleak screen?
Thank you for your patience.
Sorry for my relentless ranting.
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Switch to wolf's CM rom it has dithering and that makes a big difference.
brent0r said:
do you think this colour upgrade, if it does happen will even help with the screens response?
i love my x10 dont get me wrong but i really get jelous the second i unlock an ipod/phones lockscreen. Its a million times smoother and it follows your finger perfectly. the x10 has great specs on paper but i just dunno why its never felt fast
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depends on the touch drivers. As far as I know sony and SE, it might actually get worse.
I can wait for the gingerbread but are there any snappy/fast cam apps?
I just need something that takes more or less focused pics really fast.
The picture quality I currently get is not as good as my 2g Iphone unless I stand perfectly still or lean on something sturdy... I kinda hate it.
And regarding the Miui rom, one of the reasons I chose to buy an android over the iphone is because of the GUI
I cannot stress the importance of getting a rom + kernel that has an unlocked FPS.
I cannot recommend enough this particular rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119508
Get the one with the Custom Kernel. Bare in mind you need baseband 52/49 (5 preferred) to flash the custom Kernel.
You'll thank me later. Trust me This is exactly what you're looking for.
3dawg said:
I cannot stress the importance of getting a rom + kernel that has an unlocked FPS.
I cannot recommend enough this particular rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119508
Get the one with the Custom Kernel. Bare in mind you need baseband 52/49 (5 preferred) to flash the custom Kernel.
You'll thank me later. Trust me This is exactly what you're looking for.
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I've been with wolf's rom up until 6.3, the UI occasionally has low frame rates and overall the EWJET is more stable.
The camera mod isn't as good and lacking wifi tethering.
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I've been with wolf's rom up until 6.3, the UI occasionally has low frame rates and overall the EWJET is more stable.
The camera mod isn't as good and lacking wifi tethering.
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Odd.. i have been using wolf roms since the first one and i must say that it's smoother than butter for me.
I'm going to give it a try, the v7 looks nice and clean.
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I'm going to give it a try, the v7 looks nice and clean.
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Make sure to use the custom kernel to get 60fps. It makes all the difference.
If you have any problems e.g battery drain or wifi not working or anything. Just let me know I'll try to help.
Install the custom kernel, it makes your x10 way more smoother and don't use **** like live wallpapers, ect.
something i'd suggest you is tripnravers miui rom he have tweaked the screen for better colors and its not baaaad at all ! and something i noticed the stock se roms have more brightness and colors then all custom roms i flashed till now
3dawg said:
Make sure to use the custom kernel to get 60fps. It makes all the difference.
If you have any problems e.g battery drain or wifi not working or anything. Just let me know I'll try to help.
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I'm on BB 52 and using the custom kernel version, does the ROM allow tethering?
Because I'm an avid user of the Tether app, it would be rather difficult without it.
Overall the rom does look smoother, and I like the additional control that the CM roms give you.
Hi, first of all I love my SGS2, this is my 3rd android phone and I couldn't be happier. This phone is great. BUT... There's one thing that's bugging me. Every rom and kernel I've tried have the same problem. Lag. I'm NOT talking in games or the loading of applications, because this phone FLIES through those tasks. It's small areas where there shouldn't be the smallest amount of lag i.e. scrolling and the homescreen. I hope someone could shed some light on this for me. Everyone talks about how great this phone is and how there's absolutely no lag. Well have you used an iphone. Their like butter. We've got a phone that ****s power and they've got weak hardware in comparison. What gives?
Thanks for reading...
ive noticed if i have the phone plugged into a different charger, ( non oem samsung) there is alot of lag on the phone, its almost impossible to type cause its so annoying! lol its weird cause i thought it was the rom and tried flashing a few roms and it was all the same! found out it was because i was using a htc charger instead of the samsung one. weird cause its the same charging specs and a micro sd cable is all the same!!
Yea I've heard of that. It's indeed weird. I think there is something about it in the manual as well if I remember correctly (yes I read the manual for once!). Any ideas on the home screen/scroll lag?
I'm only on 2.3.3 ROM stock, and it's been great so I don't find the need to flash to other custom ROMS yet
The Touchwiz homescreen for me is buttery smooth. I mean, I've loaded alot of widgets on the thing and it's still smooth
ADW Launcher Ex homescreen scrolling is laggy for me though. No idea why, as the rest of the functions fly (ie app drawer scrolling, app opening, etc)
i also feel there's a tiny lag sometimes... don't know why... btw,i'm using go launcher
I'm also on stock 2.3.3 now and I think I'm going to stay with stocks for a while. I've used different launchers including ADW Launcher Ex and Go launcher Ex but they all have lag at some area. @rantzzz have you used an iphone before? how would you compare the homescreen to our S2. @sept20 can you please look under the battery and see where your phone was made? I.e. mine was made in korea. Thank-you.
Comparing the iPhone homescreen scroll and the Touchwiz 4.0 scroll on SGS2, the iPhone is much much smoother
But the stock Touch wiz 4.0 isn't a slouch also. There is a noticeable fraction of a lag when you swipe, but nothing too big
Thanks for confirming rantzzz. Yeah that fraction of lag when you swype is what I'm talking about. I also experience something similar in my apps drawer. I just can't figure out why Samsung couldn't have optimized something so small and argumentatively most important since it's the portal to everything you do on your phone! Maybe they will fix this in a future update or possibly in ICS.
Well i noticed if i use the 2x4 weather widget i get lag scrolling, shrinking it down and i lost the lag. I dunno if this will help you guys but worth a pop.
I get the lag no matter what, 100 widgets or no widgets. It would be interesting to hear if it helps anybody else though.
OP, Can you give us a full list of all software installed on your device, because I've NEVER seen lag on my phone. I've used TouchWiz, Launcher Pro and have finally settled on Go Launcher, and this phone makes the iPhone 4 looks slow and tedious, so I can only suggest that you have some software that is causing problems.
Edit: Okay, it doesn't make the iPhone 4 look slow. But it is clearly faster and smoother.
A list of software is pointless because I'm experiencing the problem at absolute stock. Whether it is my stock vodafone rom or a stock custom rom. If you wouldn't mind johncmolyneux could you please look under your battery and see where your phone was made? Also what rom and kernel you are using? Thank-you
rantzzz said:
Comparing the iPhone homescreen scroll and the Touchwiz 4.0 scroll on SGS2, the iPhone is much much smoother
But the stock Touch wiz 4.0 isn't a slouch also. There is a noticeable fraction of a lag when you swipe, but nothing too big
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I have to disagree here, my mate has an iPhone4 and compared to my GS2 it's definitelty not as smooth,my GS2 is much faster too and the display whilst good on both phones is definitely better on mine even my mate (relucantly) admitted that.
Scrollable wallpapers and live wallpapers kill the smoothness. Have a stationary wallpaper that doesn't scroll as you swipe and you'll see how smooth this baby is.
iPhone's launcher seems smoother because it doesn't let you install any wallpaper that'll slow down the homescreen.
I believe it is smooth. My friend (Iphone 4) user actually used my phone and he said that it was smoother and faster than his Ip4. But then again, actually at that time I just purchased it like an hour before. So it was really stock brand new and I have not actually installed anything yet.
I think the word 'lag' is misleading. Lag would actually imply that when you swipe the screen that it takes a moment to react. Do you really have that problem? I do not. The only time I could say I have with lag is the home button reaction speed - which isn't lag, it's because of the voice activation feature.
HOWEVER ...
What I would say is that slowly swiping between screens is far from buttery smooth - I would describe it as slightly juddery. If you swipe fast you barely notice, and if you scroll through the dots it's beautifuly smooth and impressive! BTW I've had 3 different firmwares and casual screen swiping has been equally unsmooth on all..
My question to all is... If you casually/slowly swipe between screens, do you find the animation smooth or a little juddery?
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ok, some lag is there, but yesterday when i tried miui, and there was absolutely no lag...
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OP, Can you give us a full list of all software installed on your device, because I've NEVER seen lag on my phone. I've used TouchWiz, Launcher Pro and have finally settled on Go Launcher, and this phone makes the iPhone 4 looks slow and tedious, so I can only suggest that you have some software that is causing problems.
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Mine was made in Korea and I'm using stock ROM (XWKE2) that has been rooted.
I've been so happy with stock ROM that I'm not seeing any need to put anything custom on it.
Hope you find the cause of your problem mate, because your phone is definitely not living up to its possibilities! Any chance of a video of your lag?
Im using launcherpro and i dont feel any lag while scrolling in the homescreens :S
Regretful said:
Im using launcherpro and i dont feel any lag while scrolling in the homescreens :S
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Launcher pro reminds me of one que I had- when i was using villain rom 1.4 lite, the launcher pro that came preinstalled didn't have any lag, but when I installed launcher pro on villain rom 1.4 (full version), i felt laggy app browser... why is it so? its also true with adw and go launcher... only thing changed now is that villain rom 1.4 days are gone with release of villain rom 2.0...
hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ?
because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone
i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android
anywayz , have fun with your phone !
and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here
grtz
It will never happen. Two completely different systems. I'm coming from Android and I for one would not want to ruin this phone with putting Android on it. I find WP7 so much more modern and refreshing.
I do not miss force closes nor lag.
I'm not negative to the possibility. I'm just sure it's not possible.
Hi,
I don't think it will happen. Due to there not being that many developers for the lumia. I also thing most of the hardware could be used in android, Seeing as the HTC Desire S and the Sony Xperia Arc use the MSM8255 Snapdragon(but i could be wrong, I have only really started developing).
I just dont see any real advantage of running Android on the Lumia. It is already a great device. I could only see thing going downhill if you did. Your device would have alot of lag plus the lumia only has 512mb of ram. And everybody that has used android will tell you 512mb of ram is sufficiant but not enough to run smoothly or run any intense apps.
You could, but you'd have to ask Dark Forces Team and Cotulla to release either a port of MAGLDR or the source to it to modify the chain boot loader.
Something I'd love to see but doubt we will ever see. I personally just got a Lumia 800 and although it's a nice phone the software lapses too much and in too many places so back to Android I go...even if it is the newer Android which is skinned over and too customised!
As I know the bootloader of lumia is very secured and will not allow modifications like dualOS booting.
1. You are crazy.
2. People always want what they can't get.
Technically it is possible. We have already seen examples of porting Android to older WM devices, like HTC HD2, HTC Touch Cruise, but it involves a lot of work and knowledge in system hacking.
Once you have cracked bootloader you can boot whatever you want. All you need to do is to find a device with the same chipset already running Android and port it over. Of course there will be many driver problems like non working, BT, WiFi, camera etc, but hey, what did you expect.
I bet that there is the same question in Nexus forums - How can we port WP7 to Galaxy Nexus
If you want the Lumia with android, sell it and buy the Nokia N9
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/10/nokia-n9-spotted-running-ice-cream-sandwich-dual-boot-in-the-wo/
damn i should hav bouth the n9 :/
would hav been better...but i still love this baby..
about time till the OS is opened up for new features....
surya467 said:
damn i should hav bouth the n9 :/
would hav been better...but i still love this baby..
about time till the OS is opened up for new features....
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Quintenn said:
hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ?
because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone
i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android
anywayz , have fun with your phone !
and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here
grtz
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You're both crazy, why didn't you just go Android? Strange people?
Yeah I bought this phone to get rid of Andrpid myself. I'm so sick of it!
Why the hell would you want freakin' Android to run on a WP like this?? You're crazy, that's clear
Android only has negative sides, WP is refreshing and smooth. I don't see ANY reason why you would want Android to mess up this beatiful phone.
Okay, I'm an Android hater, that's clear, but let me point it out:
Android is a copy of iOS (it's just boring)
It lags all the way
You need a nuclear power plant to keep it running for 1 day
The user experience is not consistent on all devices (not even with the same OEM!!)
Updates? Yes, if you do it all yourself
Open? Oh, thank you for your openness Android, and the malware...
I can go on if you'd like, but I think it's clear why I don't see this as a good idea...
Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
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Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
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If you really want to get rid of it, you can always ship it my way..
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If you really want to get rid of it, you can always ship it my way..
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Sure, send me a Galaxy SII or a a Galaxy Nexus and we have a deal.
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Sure, send me a Galaxy SII or a a Galaxy Nexus and we have a deal.
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LOL, you think I have such things? No way mate
Android and WP7 are two completely different beasts. No point in comparing them it's all about personal preference.
I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.
Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.
The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up. Even ICS won't fix this fully with its hardware acceleration. This is a area where Google has failed. Giving a smooth user experience. Both iPhone and WP7 has this and understand its importance but Android can't unless they rebuild it from the ground which I don't think will ever happen.
Completely agree with ^^
I was active Android ROM builder, tester, themer etc for more than 2 years., but I think I just got tired of endless battle with force closes and laags. The biggest problem with android is that it does not run on native code but on interpreted layer dalvikvm. You can try as hard as you want, but you will always need double horse power for the same tasks on other platforms.
That's also explains why WP7 is perfectly smooth with x2 less CPU and RAM while latest Google flagship with nearly desktop PC power suffers laagspikes here and there. While those small laag spikes are less visible on smartphones things are just getting worse with tablets. Today there is no tablet running Android which can render UI transitions with 60fps.
You can read a blog from ex Google employee about that.
How about some Android graphics true facts?
I agree with you guys,after using android from G1,htc hero,desire S,nexus one,sg1 and 2,galaxy nexus,lg optimus black and apple 4 and 3gs with all the cusotm roms and modifications none of them stand above wp7 smoothness. I can say i never had a lag on my phone ever,where android and ios would lag here and there. Again e-mail aplication is just a joy to use,and all the animation how they smooth transit...it never stops to impress me. Ofcourse it has some shortcomings but definatelly will get better,especially with nokia's help.Aplication wise,well i don't use that many apps but the one i used definatelly looked better than android and apple,it's like the have more soul and not look so dull and borring.
At first i did not like the idea Nokia refused android but now i see that they done the right decision,i see it no better.
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I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.
Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.
The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up.
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Well said. I had got used to the lag and didn't realise how bad it was until I got the Lumia.
I got sick of flashing ROMS too. CM7 was nice and stable, but when ICS roms came out I got sucked in. The gapps are all facelifted and are a lot nicer than Gingerbread. But then the ICS roms all have their issues and it just gets annoying.
im on a rooted phone. on accasion, i experience lags on my phone.. its annoying.. how do i eliminate them?
Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
Are there any specific situations that are lagging?
Well it depends on the parts of the phone. So many things cause lag.
First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
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its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
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i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
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First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
NOT !!! if i do that, my battery drains big time, i aint gonna do that.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
this is exactly what i do. i kill apps in task manager. and i also got advanced task manager installed.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
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i wish there was a way to check for that.
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I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
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its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
i wish there was a way to check for that.
i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
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First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. Not to mention there are is alot less going on inside IOS then there is on android. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
If you need proof check out http://ipod.about.com/od/decidingwhichipodtobuy/a/iphone_chart.htm that compares og iphone with all others and see how the features and chips etc have changed...and that's in an iphone which is not as advanced as its similar priced android rivals yet iphone performance for newer handsets is worse than original even with faster cpu.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Couldn't agree more
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First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
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its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
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1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
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no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
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A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
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thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
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exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
mistermentality said:
Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
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i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
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its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
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OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources. Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
Try rebooting. Always helps.
I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
Dave
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zelendel said:
OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources.
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
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its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
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i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
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yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
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really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
mistermentality said:
I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
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yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
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hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that. You UC the CPU and you should expect things to run slower.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
Some apps also start just because you change from wifi to 3G etc and again you can configure these apps in the same way.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
I love my android phone, I can watch a high def 3D movie on it while downloading isos or music and I can play games on it and do photo editing etcetera so I am biased toward it but ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
Dave
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
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how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
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no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
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you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) can you list a few cryogen roms that are best for battery and performance?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that.
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no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
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you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
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exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
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i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
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Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
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i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
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and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
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i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
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its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
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i totally agree.
binlad said:
how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) which is better? miui or cryogen?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
i totally agree.
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Android copied IOS? Really please do tell me how? Mainly as IOS took things from android like the notifications system. As for MIUI I explained in your other thread about why. I really think you need to do a little bit more research on what your doing. The questions you are asking about installing apps is android 101.
Now After Selling cellphone and plans for the past 10 years I think I know what sells an OS and what doesnt.
You are not correcting me. You have shown me no proof about IOS. You can say its better and I can say its not. It is all about what someone wants and needs. Like I have an old 4G that my GF used as a starter smartphone that lags and sits in a drawer. No OS is perfect so there is no point in arguing about it.
Your right my phone doesnt lag due to being sense less. Not to mention over clocked to 1.2 with 30 hr battery life.
As for what are the pros and cons of each. There are many to each. Doing some research will give you all the info you know.
Now you really seem not to like Android and will never be happy with it. Nothing anyone can do or say will be able to make you happy.
Remember this is a development site so you are expected to put in a little work, like search and reading. No I will not link you to themes that are easy to find. We dont spoonfeed here.
As for me comparing the cars to the OS it is very accurate. Android is made to be tweaked and messed with. If you cant see the diff then I am sorry. Trying to insult people is really kinda pointless. Mainly when your the one asking for help. Let alone insulting someone that has been modding phones long before you knew what modding a phone was.
As for installing other OS on android. The simple answer is no. The only phone that can dual boot Different OS is the HD2 and other WM devices that can boot android.
So here is what I will say. Try them all out and make up your own mind. Now one will be able to tell you what you like and what will work best for you. Android is about tweaking and making it your own.
Buy an iPhone and stop playing dumb. You clearly do not understand, and do not want understand a single thing.