I'm about to flash my first rom in over a year, and I don't remember some of the basic stuff that I used to pride myself on knowing. I'm coming from stock, and moving to viper. Should I use mybackup pro or titanium? Should I backup the system items or just the user apps? Didn't viper remove some things? Won't they just be restored if I restore system items?
I'm cool with backing up in recovery first, so no worries there.
/feeling like a noob again
fachadick said:
I'm about to flash my first rom in over a year, and I don't remember some of the basic stuff that I used to pride myself on knowing. I'm coming from stock, and moving to viper. Should I use mybackup pro or titanium? Should I backup the system items or just the user apps? Didn't viper remove some things? Won't they just be restored if I restore system items?
I'm cool with backing up in recovery first, so no worries there.
/feeling like a noob again
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You can use either of those backup options. I would suggest not backing up and restoring system settings after you flash. This is usually a primary cause for issues. But Apps and data are fine.
In the past I restored settings and it would drive my custom ROMs bonkers.
Since you're coming from straight stock, it might not be a bad idea to backup system apps, but I def wouldn't restore system apps on a custom rom.
Happy flashing.
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Can you backup an app such as.... Google Authenticator?? Or banking apps that have somehting like one click login enabled?
I have always started from scratch when I flash a ROM, and that's SUPER annoying. HAHA. I'm a newb.
kornface13 said:
Can you backup an app such as.... Google Authenticator?? Or banking apps that have somehting like one click login enabled?
I have always started from scratch when I flash a ROM, and that's SUPER annoying. HAHA. I'm a newb.
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I don't know about Google Authenticator, never used it. Banking apps and other apps that require sign in, you can back up using titanium backup. When you flash a rom, using titanium backup restore app+ data.
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so I had a full system + app backup made in titanium while on vipers ROM. I just flashed to team XRONs ROM and then did a full restore through titanium.
My question is, is titanium smart enough to not overwrite newer version of things when restoring?
I'm basically wondering if its technically possible to restore back to an older version of sense components via a restore.
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Yea it will restore the last backup, so ifs an older version that's what will be restored, you can always select uncheck what you don't want TB to restore.
I know that it won't help here but in the future, you may want to consider MyBackup Root for your backup options. You can find it in the market and it is free.
TB does the restore in batch mode relative to the last incrementally saved
backup, gives you the option to uncheck the apps you would not like to
install, which is very convenient.
I haven't had too much problem restoring backups of apps when jumping from one ROM to another. If you jump between Sense and AOSP ROMs, Titanium doesn't handle that well. With the 3D, there isn't a fully functional AOSP ROM yet, so you shouldn't have to worry about that now.
I wouldn't restore any system backups when jump from one ROM to another though. Just apps that I have downloaded from market, that's always worked for me. I don't usual restore apps that are part of the base ROM like Internet and Messaging. You may be able to do that go from one ROM to another, but you could be restoring older versions of apps.
I will have to look into MyBackup Root. Curious if it handles Sense to AOSP backup of Apps better.
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I know that it won't help here but in the future, you may want to consider MyBackup Root for your backup options. You can find it in the market and it is free.
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It is only free for first 30 days.
what's a good option for backing up and restoring just text messages and phone logs
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It is only free for first 30 days.
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I think that the Root version is free, the Pro version costs.
I used it coming over from stock rooted to viper. I unchecked everything viper's rom already had so it just imported new stuff for me (saving me at least 15 market downloads) and some other one off items and settings. Worked well. Just takes a second to dig through some times and make sure not to lay down unnecessary crap. Its also color coded for convenience.
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
restoring the data for the user apps is fine, don't restore the system data...
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I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
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I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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It is advised to do full wipe, if you install a rom.
And if you want to keep your settings, games scores etc, you use Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup is your friend in those cases..
What is not adviced, is installing a Rom, without wiping your data.. In that way, you keep for example data of apps and games, of a froyo rom, to a gingerbread rom..
Rom to Rom differs(even in same android version), thats why you full wipe, and then TiBu saves you by restoring them, to the new rom's enviroment..
Edit: Agree with others.. I was typing on atrix, and since i wrote this, they already answered!
Also in atrix, NEVER restore FINGERPRINTS backup..
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Pirateghost said:
that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
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That explains it. Ive seen MANY posts where users tell other users to restore apps but not restore data but dont specify they mean system data and not app data!
Also, when people talk of a full wipe, do they mean even deleting the contents of the internal storage (like photos and such?)
This would be for going from one ROM to another ROM, both GB
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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Thanks ! I always feared that the wipe data/factory reset pretty much deletes all the files on your device like photos and music
The short answer is force closes. Which also can happen from restoring app data, altho it is less likely to happen, it can and it will. But yea def dont restore system data.
Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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You can use SyncIt or GameOn, you can even back it up manualy with Root Explorer. You should be fine with TiBU, just if you do get a force close you will know why and what to do (delete data and/or uninstall/reinstall).
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
JonnyCazoid said:
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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Looks like that was the the problem. I saved my backup on drop box so i just dropped what was on dropbox in my titanium folder and restored it. I now have all of my app data back.
I'm using the PKMN Rom right now. When a new version comes out, I would like for it to auto-download the apps from the play store that I used to have. Is there something I have to change in the new rom to do that? A build.prop edit? Thanks in advance.
Titanium backup is your friend.
I came across a file
In the Rom zip try deleting sq-lopt
It's in /system/ect/init.d/
This would require a reflash tho
Joel could correct me if I'm wrong
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Titanium backup is your friend.
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Yeah, I have TiBu. But, it'd be nice if it auto-downloads after registering my g-account. Just wondering if it was a little mod I could do myself. That's all.
superchilpil said:
I came across a file
In the Rom zip try deleting sq-lopt
It's in /system/ect/init.d/
This would require a reflash tho
Joel could correct me if I'm wrong
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Thanks SCP! I will try this on the next PKMN update.
I've never gotten my Rezound to restore its apps or its wifi networks. I've also noticed that after a wipe, during the setup process, its asks you if you want to keep your device's networks and settings backed up with Google, but does not give you the option to restore your phone from Google like my Eris and my Transformers do... Has HTC just omitted this functionality??
Gingerbread did that for me but not ics. But I don't mind. Don't like it to auto download anyway.
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I don't really think it's a good idea to restore from TB.
Although I paid for TB last year, I don't even bother installing it anymore.
When I flash a new rom I find it is MUCH better to reinstall an app from an APk than to restore it. I now use AppMonster Pro to save the APK from all the apps i use to a folder on my card and then clean install them on the new rom.....
The only times I have had it auto download was by signing into google during setup wizard.
jmorton10 said:
I don't really think it's a good idea to restore from TB.
Although I paid for TB last year, I don't even bother installing it anymore.
When I flash a new rom I find it is MUCH better to reinstall an app from an APk than to restore it. I now use AppMonster Pro to save the APK from all the apps i use to a folder on my card and then clean install them on the new rom.....
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Hm, I had a totally different experience. I had about 220 user apps installed. I did a batch backup with Ti Backup, and then a batch restore with data. I think there were seriously one or two apps that I had trouble with. I just wiped the data on those apps and set them up manually.
I guess I don't really see what the fuss is. Now I tend to just install apps from the Market so I get the latest version, and restore data on the few apps that I require lengthy setup.
I also tend to keep archives of my Ti Backup folders, because there are some times I need to go back to an old version of an app because of some crappy update.
I've done batch restore with data with Ti Backup with 200+ apps multiple times with virtually no issues. Some examples of apps I try to install clean are LBE Privacy Guard and Busybox Installer.
Maybe people are restoring system apps?
I always restore lots of different data and apps with tb and have no problem... Just don't restore something in red on system apps lol
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Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium would be used when you want to backup all of your apps+data, Twrp would be used when you want to back up EVERYTHING apps, messages, pics(on internal sd), basically everything lol. As for verizon sending a ota, I think it's highly unlikely that they can push a ota to our phones now I think the bootloader unlocking and rooting broke all of that. Especially if you run a custom Rom.
Sent from my rooted, and unlocked Vzw note 2 running beans Rom! U mad?
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium is backing up apps. So lets say you use CleanROM and you want to flash to a newer version cleanly. Use titanium to back up the apps and you will be able to restore them easily on the new rom.
Backing up via TWRP basically means you are backing up EVERYTHING in the rom. So lets use the previous example, uograding from one rom to another. You do a twrp back up and begin to flash the new rom. If anything screws up, you could just restore the twrp back up and everything would go back to normal, back exactly to how your phone was when you made the backup.
Edit: basically a back up in recovery is creating a safe point to come back to if anything goes wrong EVER with your device. There are things that this typenof back up cannot undo however.
Titanium is for apps and that's it. It helps free up space as well as making backups for apps incase on of your apps screws up.
EDIT 2: next time post this type of thing in Q&A and not in general
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Titanium Backup - Used to back up all of your apps and their data
TWRP - Used to back up the ENTIRE system. Meaning, if anything goes wrong, you can restore a past "save" of your system before the problem.
You can think of it as Titanium Backup would be like copying a MS Word document onto a flash drive and TWRP would be like taking a copy of your entire hard drive.
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium backup: for backing up apks and their datas, mms and calling history, bookmarks, alarm and wifi settings....i think that's about it. Because your apks keep updating every few days, you should make this backup right before you flash a new rom. Once you retrieve, you don't have to keep this too long.
TWRP backup(aka nandroid): this is just like a saved point when you play a video game. sometimes when you download something, it can alternate other settings and create a mess.....which then may cause your rom to malfunction. At this time, you can flash your nandroid.....it dumps every saved datas, cache, etc etc so that you can go back to your saved point.
Titanium back up- is a app that backs up applications and their data...also has the ability to freeze system apps and create back up .zips of the devices applications.
TWRP back up- is a custom recovery that allows the user to create a back up image... that image will restore the boot image, rom, kernel, data, and cache back to the point of when the back up was created.
It used to be that restoring titanium data from one rom to another was bad. Is this still a recommended no no?
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First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
JRunner01 said:
First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
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yes you can use titanium to back up your apps and restore them on a custom rom...just restore the apps without data. you have the rest correct.
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
droidstyle said:
great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I agree that folks get into trouble because of what you posted in your last sentence. This is exactly why I do not recommend it because a new user 99% of the time wont know that. So I simply do not suggest it...now somebody more experienced like yourself is a different story.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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It has yet to happen to me.
The only time it came close was with better terminal emulator pro. I restored using titanium and it refused to work. Downloaded it from the play store, it worked fine. Then restored over that using titanium and it worked fine.
Anyone have any advice on creating the .zip? Is it even a possibility in TWRP? I used CWR for the longest and am a n00b with TWP. There are only 2 options when creating the update.zip: Edify (Android 1.6+, ClockworkMod 3+) and Amend (Android 1.5, ClockworkMod 2). So which is needed to flash in TWRP?
I'm not interested in creating a .zip of all my apps, just a .zip I can flash in recovery after clean wipe/flashing a new ROM. TIA guys
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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It only gets /system, /data, and kernel if you don't change the options. It's not getting everything on SD card or internal storage unless you specify that option.
This might be a noob question...
Hyperdrive has a new update and based on what I've read I would have to wipe the phone and flash the update on the phone.
Is there something that I can do to save or reinstall the apps I have after I flash the new update? Instead of going and installing each app individually again?
Thanks,
Angel
Titanium backup with save all of your apps and their settings.
Once you install the new ROM than you just restore all the missing apps and its data.
angelfury126 said:
This might be a noob question...
Hyperdrive has a new update and based on what I've read I would have to wipe the phone and flash the update on the phone.
Is there something that I can do to save or reinstall the apps I have after I flash the new update? Instead of going and installing each app individually again?
Thanks,
Angel
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couple things, if you have playstore apps, you can set that up to reinstall all the apps fresh and use tibu to restore data. Many issues happen when you try to restore everything thru tibu or any other backup programs.
In 4 years of flashing roms, I have never encountered any issues when installing roms or upgrading roms when I install apps fresh and use tibu to restore some of the data. I dont like chasing problems which take a lot more time.
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decaturbob said:
couple things, if you have playstore apps, you can set that up to reinstall all the apps fresh and use tibu to restore data. Many issues happen when you try to restore everything thru tibu or any other backup programs.
In 4 years of flashing roms, I have never encountered any issues when installing roms or upgrading roms when I install apps fresh and use tibu to restore some of the data. I dont like chasing problems which take a lot more time.
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+1 This is by far the best method. Even just trying to batch restore through TiBu sucks because it takes almost as much time as going through all the prompts on the installs. You can tell google which apps you use on a device, and then re-download them through the play store without having to deal with the install prompts. Then after that, you can just restore the data like decaturbob said, and then I'd suggest a reboot so all the apps fully close and re-open. Most important one for backup for me is Tasker as I've spent countless hours setting up all my triggers and profiles.
angelfury126 said:
This might be a noob question...
Hyperdrive has a new update and based on what I've read I would have to wipe the phone and flash the update on the phone.
Is there something that I can do to save or reinstall the apps I have after I flash the new update? Instead of going and installing each app individually again?
Thanks,
Angel
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I use ROM Toolbox Pro. Once you get it root access there are no prompts to go through as mentioned about the TiBu... just select whatever apps you want to install from your backups and then choose restore app or restore app & data. I try not to restore the data because is usually does cause at least one issue.
I did a backup of my rls14 setup using safestrap, wiped the slot, installed a clean rls15 and then restored data only from my rls14 backup and have not had any issues so far.
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I did a backup of my rls14 setup using safestrap, wiped the slot, installed a clean rls15 and then restored data only from my rls14 backup and have not had any issues so far.
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THIS.....^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^