Hey all,
I just received my i777 and I'm impressed. Coming from a sgs4g seems like a huge improvement, though the devices look physically the same LOL (with the i777 being a bit on the larger side).
Anyways, I've been flashing roms for about a year now with my sgs4g. The forums for the sgs4g had very detailed instructions when flashing, instructions like, what to do if coming from stock, but on this forum ppl just assume you have CWM installed.
What I want is a safe way to upgrade to, let's say, phone bricker. I've noticed that all roms are installed through CWM, and all OP say is "make sure CWM is installed", but there's no mention whatsoever on how to install CWM on this phone.
Maybe i'm complicating things a little bit. On my previous phone, Rom Manager downloaded from market was a NO NO because it'd brick it. So we had to flash a modded CWM via odin made specifically for our phones. Maybe for this phone installing rom manager is all that is needed? yes? OK, found the FAQ. no ROM manager.
Also, somehow this phone came rooted... I bought it new from a store but the unlocked version since I live outside USA.
So, if I'm not mistaken, I should just install rom manager, select my phone from the list, flash CWM recovery and flash away roms on the dev section. Am I correct? I don't want to brick my phone
I would not use Rom manger it's proven to be more of a headache for this device. Look on the dev section there are a couple of packages that you can use to get cwm. If your already rooted you could simply flash a custom kernel like entropys daily driver which already has cwm included in kernel.
Again, if your rooted, easiest way could be to simply use mobile Odin to flash custom kernel(I'm assuming your running gingerbread).
I bought the full version of mobile ODIN. makes life a little simpler when flashing, in my opinion. It's worth the few bucks.
eep2378 said:
I would not use Rom manger it's proven to be more of a headache for this device. Look on the dev section there are a couple of packages that you can use to get cwm. If your already rooted you could simply flash a custom kernel like entropys daily driver which already has cwm included in kernel.
Again, if your rooted, easiest way could be to simply use mobile Odin to flash custom kernel(I'm assuming your running gingerbread).
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Running GB, yes. It's (i think) completely stock: GB KJ4.
I've checked and I have standard recovery, so I'm looking for the best and safest way to get cmw.
Mobile odin looks like a good option, but would I need the full paid version?
mikeflash said:
Running GB, yes. It's (i think) completely stock: GB KJ4.
I've checked and I have standard recovery, so I'm looking for the best and safest way to get cmw.
Mobile odin looks like a good option, but would I need the full paid version?
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You don't need pro version, lite version will do just fine. Are you sure you're rooted? You have superuser app? Whether you're rooted or not look here(if you are rooted look at #3 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Check out this thread, was my experience and I'm running PhoneBricker just fine!
However, backup your apps before flashing and factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik after (possibly before as well) and you should be fine! Will root then you can flash away.
Clay
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One other point for you. Your phone was flashed, in most probability by the folks who sold it to you, with a leaked version of Gingerbread, UCKJ4. As a result, your flash count is probably at 1, and the secondary bootloader was probably replaced with one that disables the ability to clear the flash counter with a usb jig. If this matters to you, you can test first with a jig to see if it will reset, and if not, you can flash the original UCKH7 secondary bootloader to fix it. Needed files can be found in the Download Repository.
Oh, and my guide explains how to flash a modified kernel containing ClockworkMod Recovery if you need it.
Well, I flashed my phone last night. Used mobile odin for flashing a kernel (siyah) to get CWM, then flashed phone bricker via CWM like I used to do on my old phone. Everything went smooth.
Though I'm not fond on this "4.0.3", it's just a launcher that looks like ICS but I don't want to believe it's a true ICS ROM, because it feels weird, I certainly prefer stock GB (or a custom GB rom) instead of some heavily modded rom with ICS theme.
creepyncrawly said:
One other point for you. Your phone was flashed, in most probability by the folks who sold it to you, with a leaked version of Gingerbread, UCKJ4. As a result, your flash count is probably at 1, and the secondary bootloader was probably replaced with one that disables the ability to clear the flash counter with a usb jig. If this matters to you, you can test first with a jig to see if it will reset, and if not, you can flash the original UCKH7 secondary bootloader to fix it. Needed files can be found in the Download Repository.
Oh, and my guide explains how to flash a modified kernel containing ClockworkMod Recovery if you need it.
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There're several new terms I need to learn about this phone that weren't used on sgs4g. Such as DPI (i.e lowering it, what for? isn't that a step back?) and flash counter.
I suppose flash count is just a counter for how many times you have flashed the phone with custom Roms, so that warranty people can check if a returned phone was damaged due to bad flash, or something like that. Am I correct?
If that's the case, then I'm not too worried about flash count because I live outside US, and my AT&T phone wouldn't get warranty over here, but I'll definitely look into that, to check where my counter is at and to check if resetting it back to 0 is still possible.
I'll be checking up on the links you provided.
Thanks a lot.
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Though I'm not fond on this "4.0.3", it's just a launcher that looks like ICS but I don't want to believe it's a true ICS ROM, because it feels weird, I certainly prefer stock GB (or a custom GB rom) instead of some heavily modded rom with ICS theme.
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It is a true ICS rom. Samsung didn't do a lot of cosmetic changes when they moved the S2 to ICS though...most changes are under the hood.
If you want something that looks and feels more like true ICS, you should consider trying either CM9 or AOKP. They are both based on Google's source code, nothing Touchwiz about them.
Or if you'd rather stick with what you have, you can always try different launchers. I'm running ICS, but I use Go Launcher and it runs beautifully.
mikeflash said:
There're several new terms I need to learn about this phone that weren't used on sgs4g. Such as DPI (i.e lowering it, what for? isn't that a step back?) and flash counter.
I suppose flash count is just a counter for how many times you have flashed the phone with custom Roms, so that warranty people can check if a returned phone was damaged due to bad flash, or something like that. Am I correct?
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That is mostly correct. You're right about the purpose of the flash counter, but it actually counts how many times you flash kernels, not roms. And even then, it only increments if you flash a kernel via Odin in download mode. Flashing a kernel in Mobile Odin or CWM doesn't touch the counter.
Incrementing the flash counter also places that possibly annoying yellow triangle on bootup on your phone. Since you're on ICS, you can just use triangle away app from play store (free version is on here somewhere) to get rid of it, though I'm not sure if that'll fix the whole secondary bootloaders thing (probably not). I think it'd be worth it to fix that just so you don't run into anymore problems later if you decide to change something, especially since after the fixes you can just nandroid back to your current setup, but it's not essential and completely up to you.
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I'm confused why this thread was started. There ARE detailed instructions in the stickies and by using Google search along with the words XDA after the search u would easily find any and all information needed. Why do we need a thread dedicated to helping one person read stickies which already have this information.
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Phalanx, did you not read the Title?
It says be nice!
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Phalanx7621 said:
I'm confused why this thread was started. There ARE detailed instructions in the stickies and by using Google search along with the words XDA after the search u would easily find any and all information needed. Why do we need a thread dedicated to helping one person read stickies which already have this information.
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Thank you friend.
To sum up for OP
1. Strongly suggest NOT to use ROM Manager on any custom ROMs unless you are surely running CyanogenMod ROM.
2. Check the "About phone" to see if it is true ICS or ICS-theme GB.
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My phone is quote slow and laggy and it's quite surprising seeing as this phone is meant to be known for it's speed and power.
I have rooted with cf-root , I don't really know if this means if I have a custom kernel.
All I want to know is if there is a custom ROM or kernel to help with this. If yes, which one. Many developers claim there stuff speeds up phones but obviously they're bias. I want neutral opinions from people with experience of different things.
Before people tell me to search I can only access the net through my phone and the drop down search button don't work.
First of all rooting your phone is good cos it now means that you can flash a custom ROM.Something that cant be done on stock.For the moment stay with CF-Root as they are basically stock rooted kernels and at the moment I dont think you need to get into overclocking and undervolting and all that stuff that more advanced kernels can do cos if you do it wrong yourve got problems.As for ROMs your right.All Devs will say that they have the best one and all happy users,yes like myself,will say they use the best one too.The problem is that everyone has different likes and needs.No one who has spent time on this site has ever only had ONE ROM on their phone.Its impossible to not turn into a flashaholic at some stage.The best you can do is read threads and try some.Not the answer you wanted but its the best and only way to find what you want.Try mine.I love it.The link is below the big blue Omega sign.Its the one that says "GB".If you dont like it then try something else.Theres really no other way to find out what you want unless you try for yourself.
I see.. So I simply download the custom ROM and install it through clockwork mod?
Do I have to back up my phone with titanium back up before I install custom roms?
anz2k8 said:
I see.. So I simply download the custom ROM and install it through clockwork mod?
Do I have to back up my phone with titanium back up before I install custom roms?
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Step 1 - backup with titanium.
Step 2 - reboot into cwm or with the cwm app, create a backup. So, if you flash something that you don't like or if it wont boot, you can restore it. This is a complete system and data backup. A 1:1 copy of your phone setup, excluding modem which defaults to whatever you are running at the time of restore.
Step 3 - try some custom roms. I use Checkrom (older version - v2) and phone flies.
Anyway, something must be wrong with your setup because every rom I've used has been fast, even stock.
ps : sent you a pm.
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Once you get sorted then do an EFS backup.The EFS folder contains your IMEI number and if for whatever reason you should loose it or it becomes corrupt then you are in the poo.Download the "release.zip" and follow the easy instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
I was using checkrom v4 and then v6 for a little while both with SiyahKernel which worked really well.
Currently using CM9 but I wouldn't go there until your comfortable fixing things and regularly flashing.
But definately select your rom and then try changing kernels if you think it will benefit you.
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@cooza when should I back up this eps, everyone time I change ROM or everyone I change kernel? I don't even know what it is lol
@sxi200 you say there must be something wrong with my setup, could you explain in a little more detail what you think I should change please?
Just thought I would *Bump* the thread as i'm slightly desperate for the random rebooting. It happens approximately once or twice a day.
did u use wipe data/factory reset while installing a new rom?
expierienced some funny things like lag etc also while trying different roms,
my fault was not wiping the cache ...
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Just thought I would *Bump* the thread as i'm slightly desperate for the random rebooting. It happens approximately once or twice a day.
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One Factory reset the phone this will wipe all data
Two upgrade firmware via Kies if firmware is available .
Three flash a later stock Samsung rom .
Four any of the answers already posted .
Five wait for Samsungs ICS update .
i see you have rooted but dont know what root is for or even any of the basics .
Read the guides and stickies .
Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
Its possible that you have rooted with a wrong file .
But you give zero information .
jje
Hi guys,
I've had an S2 for a few months now, and although I've managed to root the phone I'm still pretty green and need help.
I've had an OTA update from Gingerbread to ICS which I only installed as it popped up when I was using the phone.
The battery died earlier than expected and now it's stuck in a bootloop.
I don't want to have to ROM it as frankly I'm still in the "full theory" stage. I've heard of Odin and SamMobile.com, I've seen hours of vids on Youtube but I'm hoping there's another way to get around it. My confidence levels are improving but not there yet.
I have a Titanium backup on the phone from 2.3.4, if I wipe the phone from recovery will it work? Is there anything I can do apart from a new ROM?
If you had my lack of experience with this, what would you do? Thanks.
Can you get into download mode?
If so, you may have to bite the bullet and use Odin to flash the original firmware. You will be able to find it on these forums.
Don't sweat it, just download the Orange ICS ROM and put it in PDA on Odin and flash it, it'll take just a couple of minutes and you are done.
Thanks guys. It sounds so simple when you don't have a bootlocked phone to panic about.
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Thanks guys. It sounds so simple when you don't have a bootlocked phone to panic about.
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Thats because it is simple! Ive never rooted because it looks confusing. But I've used odin many times to flash stock firmwares.
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Warren.D said:
Thats because it is simple! Ive never rooted because it looks confusing. But I've used odin many times to flash stock firmwares.
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Nothing confusing about rooting either.
Download one of chainfires cfroot kernels or siyah kernel and flash via Odin.
That's it you're rooted.
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if ya have a look around the forum, theres plenty of pre-rooted roms to flash via odin that wont increase ya binary counter, nothing hard about that.
Read the links in my signature
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I'm still reletively new to it
and I've had a couple of bootloops. A bit of a panic and then I figured out what I'd done wrong. As long as you follow instructions to the letter you'll be fine.
Edit: *Relatively, damn it.
Rooting it was easy enough. I went to unlockroot.com and a download later I was rooted. It's the ROMs that terrify me.
FourQ said:
Rooting it was easy enough. I went to unlockroot.com and a download later I was rooted. It's the ROMs that terrify me.
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getting a custom rom isn't something you should be afraid of
getting a custom rom (or kernel) can improve your battery life (some of them).. but just be sure that getting a custom rom, it should be for whatever you're running (Gingerbread or ICS) usually, roms are flashable via CWM
take a leap, when you get into bootloop or get some problems along the process, just flash a stock firmware with odin..
@saywhatt
A mate (who's been doing this for years) has installed CWM7. It's odd how the things I liked about Gingerbread were added by Samsung, not Google.
I suspect I'll run with CWM7 for a week or so and decide then. First impressions aren't always correct (especially if you saw my face!) but after a week I should have a pretty good impression of the new ROM. I'm hesitant about ICS as the official version killed the phone but ultimately I may end up there.
It's good to watch the Youtube vids on how to flash stock ROMs with Odin. It's something I may try next week if CWM7 falls from favour.
Ultimately I'm sort of glad it happened. It's given me new confidence to try these things as I know there's a good chance it can all be recovered.
Q
I've never been too afraid of rooting or flashing. My first android device was a cheap piece of rubbish (an LG GTsomething i think), so I built up confidence in rooting and flashing because I didn't care if i damaged my phone.
I would recommend anyone who's not too confident to go out and get a cheap phone, it's a pretty significant investment but if your unsure about what your doing and just want to experiment, it's definitely worth the peace of mind.
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I'm hesitant about ICS as the official version killed the phone
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no m8 it didn't, your battery dying while you were updating killed your phone
It had finished a while before that. I was selecting a new font when it died.
You can't stuff up your phone anymore - its already in bootloop, what do you have to lose?
Odin is indeed very easy. Just make sure F.Partition is unchecked. Put the ROM in PDA and flash! Of course, after your phone has been put into download mode and connected to pc via usb and one of the Odin blocks have turned yellow.
Your phone is already rooted? If you made a backup in CWM (NOT Titanium Backup, this won't help you right now, as it's only for apps) you should restore that in CWM. A wipe and factory reset wouldn't help you right bow.
I understand you are a bit skeptic of ICS stock ROM right now, but remember you probably got pushed an early version,.the latest versions are very stable! Though Custom ROM's are the way to go eventually. Try the latest stable Cyanogen ROM.
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@FreeStanler
Good point.
The stock ICS ROM was 4.0.3 if memory serves. It wasn't there for long but I was curious to see which version I'd been upgraded to.
I'm planning to see how this CWM7 ROM sits with me. If I can find out which app is causing this: http://t.co/9GfdXmD I'll probably be happy with it. I need to have a good play about with it to give it a fair chance. May end up with ICS/Stock ICS but for now we'll see how it goes.
Why on earth would you use Cm7 when Cm9 is far better, plus to flash a fw & then root with SuperOneClickRoot, or use the cf root kernel. The whole process takes 5 mins. Honestly M8 there's nothing to worry about. One thing I will say tho, Google Nandroid back up & once you know how to use etc, use it & make it your best friend coz that's the only thing that will fix the bootloop in the future
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@blade30p
I didn't. A friend who's been doing this for years did it for me. I was hoping to get something resembling the stock Gingerbread on the phone, instead I got CWM7.
This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
lucash312 said:
This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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if the op would of followed the guides instructions correctly, he would not of ran into that issue in the first place...
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
You can flash any .zip ROM with CWM. There's no need for ROM Manager. BTW, you can post a link if you uncheck "parse links in text automatically."
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
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all you need to do is boot into cwm recovery via the power menu and flash away. the problem with rom manager on the fascinate is getting into the right recovery...causes more problems than its worth on this device. make sense yet? probably not since you have not been down this road yet, but many of us have. so take the advice given or dont and learn the hard way.
Honestly, I am trying to take the advice given but not all of it fit my situation.
I'm definitely something of a noob to Android (Not to linux or IT though). I've had my phone for all of a month and rooted it only days ago.
It's all starting to come together, finally. It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware, versions of Android, this or that kernel that only works with these ROMs, old/newer versions of those, old posts and advice, newer posts with adjusted advice.. etc.. It's been a week long crash course!
Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
So you see, I was in a catch-22; I needed CWM to flash CWM? Odin was my only option at that point.
Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware
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You are on the Samsung Fascinate. If it is Verizon then it is model number i500. If it doesnt say Fascinate or i500 it isn't for your device and you don't need to worry about it. If you flash something that isn't stated as being for the i500 or VERIZON Fascinate then you will have a lovely new temporary paper weight.
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Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
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You couldn't have followed it to the letter because it is a well known fact that if you boot up with a stock kernel still flashed it will replace your recovery. Droidstyle certainly knows this and certainly accounted for it in his guide. So, you need to either boot directly into CWM or flash a non-stock kernel prior to rebooting the phone.
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Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
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Yeah it sounds like that will work...not the most elegant way to take care of it...but it sounds like it would be okay.
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Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
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We already talked about the kernel situation. Consider Geewiz if you want something thats all-in-one and pretty much impossible to mess up. KGB is good. Leankernel always gave me the best battery life but YMMV.
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I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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He showed no interest in helping the devs here get ROM manager working (again) on the phone. If you gave him money, blame him for not providing the support and resources to get it working on this phone. Some people are umm...."lacking in people skills."
Oh, and as great as the Gingerbread ROMs are...the mtd ICS roms blow them out of the water
Okay, before any of the regular contributors here say something nasty to me for asking a question that's been asked and answered, I want you to know that I have spent 2 days reading through -all- xda forums that might even -remotely- relate to my problem, without finding any answers. I also spent several hours searching all the common Android forums elsewhere, as well as, silly sites like Yahoo answers, etc., but have not been able to find the answer to my question. I'm the first to admit that reading the exorbitant amount of information in here causes my brain to short circuit due to all the numbers, versions, etc. It's like reading tax code; use C1.4.6 unless you've submitted b45.1. In that case, use d16.9, unless you've also filed a p32 in the last 2 years...if so, then....blah blah blah.
I love all you cell phone OS gurus and am quite envious of your ability to effortlessly wade through the technology involved in these phones. I wish, wholeheartedly, that I didn't have to ask any questions here because I know how irritated many of you become over people like me asking stupid questions, but I have no where else to turn. Believe me, if I could go elsewhere, I would, for your sake.
I was running 2.3.4, rooted, stock ROM. Froze the system with TB Pro to prevent the upgrade to 2.3.6. Unfroze it. Upgraded. Decided to unroot so I could sell my phone in favor of another. Ran Odin. Ran SuperOneClick. Ahhh...and there's the problem. SOC doesn't work with 2.3.6. So now, I don't know what to do. My phone is half rooted. I can't unroot and I can't reroot. I get the triangle, but TB Pro doesn't work because I'm not rooted, well. sort of not rooted. I guess I'm a little rooted. I don't know what to do next mainly because, every time I find what I think is a solution, I find another source that says, "DON'T DO IT! YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PHONE!" So, here I am, hoping someone will point me in the right direction without chastising me for asking a stupid question. I checked the solution in here and it's great, except, and I quote "Not working for KK6 2.3.6"
Thanks for any help....
So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
Now, you know, I read that post along with all the stickies, about how to return the phone to stock, but I couldn't find any mention of whether or not it worked with a half rooted phone. I didn't want to be one of those people who blindly followed directions not intended for her situation, only to wind up bricking my phone or in a constant boot loop.
Thank you for not criticizing me for my apparent stupidity. I do my best.
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
tunie said:
Now, you know, I read that post along with all the stickies, about how to return the phone to stock, but I couldn't find any mention of whether or not it worked with a half rooted phone. I didn't want to be one of those people who blindly followed directions not intended for her situation, only to wind up bricking my phone or in a constant boot loop.
Thank you for not criticizing me for my apparent stupidity. I do my best.
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
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You can't have a "half rooted" phone, and it wouldn't matter at all anyway since you're going to be booting into download mode in order to flash to stock.
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First of all:
Understand what 'ROOT' is.
IT IS ADMINISTRATOR ACCESS TO YOUR DEVICE, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
everything for 'root' resides in the OS under the /system partition...which means when you load a new/stock rom on it, everything in /system gets wiped...
root has nothing to do with recovery mode or download mode. you cant be 'half-rooted'. you either have administrator access or you dont, plain and simple.
When I rooted so very long ago, I used SGH-I777_ClockworkMod-Recovery_5.0.2.3 that I downloaded with su-3.0-efgh-signed. At the time, I didn't understand what this was. I only understood that this would root my phone. I didn't want to flash any custom ROM's because, to this day, I really don't understand what a ROM is. Yes, I've read about it. Still don't get it. So, did I flash a custom ROM? As far as I knew, all I did was root so I could use TBPro to backup and freeze, and use LBE to keep my information as private as possible.
<edit> So I've just reread many of your posts. You really are great at explaining this stuff and I thank you for that. It seems, from what I've read, that I can just do a factory reset and the phone should go back to its original state, with 2.3.4. Is that correct?
Thank you, again. I swear I'll be out of everyone's hair in here as soon as is humanly possible.
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So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
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Pirateghost said:
First of all:
Understand what 'ROOT' is.
IT IS ADMINISTRATOR ACCESS TO YOUR DEVICE, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
everything for 'root' resides in the OS under the /system partition...which means when you load a new/stock rom on it, everything in /system gets wiped...
root has nothing to do with recovery mode or download mode. you cant be 'half-rooted'. you either have administrator access or you dont, plain and simple.
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Thank yes, I understood what root was which is why I did it. I just didn't understand the mechanics of getting there. Perhaps it's the same thing that made pre-med chemistry so difficult for me in college. I could do the work, but didn't get the big picture, so I couldn't build a knowledge base. Anyway, I see the triangle and GT I9100 at boot up, yet I cannot access TB Pro as it states I'm not rooted. So, I guess I did unroot, but didn't go all the way because 2.3.6 doesn't play nice with popular root/unroot apps. Thanks for explaining.
tunie said:
Thank yes, I understood what root was which is why I did it. I just didn't understand the mechanics of getting there. Perhaps it's the same thing that made pre-med chemistry so difficult for me in college. I could do the work, but didn't get the big picture, so I couldn't build a knowledge base. Anyway, I see the triangle and GT I9100 at boot up, yet I cannot access TB Pro as it states I'm not rooted. So, I guess I did unroot, but didn't go all the way because 2.3.6 doesn't play nice with popular root/unroot apps. Thanks for explaining.
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The triangle has nothing to do with root. It only means you flashed a kernel using Odin.
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tunie said:
It seems, from what I've read, that I can just do a factory reset and the phone should go back to its original state, with 2.3.4. Is that correct?
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No. When you do a wipe data/factory reset, this wipes the data partition but does not touch the system partition. So you will still have whatever firmware you started with, which in your case I believe is 2.3.6, but it will be put back to like it was when it was first installed.
That's why I recommended that you perform a wipe data/factory reset, and then flash the 2.3.4 stock firmware. The factory reset is so that when the new 2.3.4 stock firmware boots up, there will be no problems.
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The triangle has nothing to do with root. It only means you flashed a kernel using Odin.
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Well thank you. I give up. Really, I do.
creepyncrawly said:
No. When you do a wipe data/factory reset, this wipes the data partition but does not touch the system partition. So you will still have whatever firmware you started with, which in your case I believe is 2.3.6, but it will be put back to like it was when it was first installed.
That's why I recommended that you perform a wipe data/factory reset, and then flash the 2.3.4 stock firmware. The factory reset is so that when the new 2.3.4 stock firmware boots up, there will be no problems.
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Well, I actually understand that. Thank you. My concern now is whether or not I flashed a custom ROM. Clockworkmod appears to be a custom ROM, no? If it isn't, I know what to do, thanks to you. If it is a custom ROM, I don't know what to do next.
tunie said:
Well, I actually understand that. Thank you. My concern now is whether or not I flashed a custom ROM. Clockworkmod appears to be a custom ROM, no? If it isn't, I know what to do, thanks to you. If it is a custom ROM, I don't know what to do next.
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clockwork mod is NOT a custom ROM. clockwork mod is RECOVERY and on this device it is compiled WITH the kernel.
YOU HAVE A CUSTOM/MODIFIED KERNEL
I really dont understand why you dont just follow creepyncrawly's advice and tutorials...you are making this out WAAAAAY harder than it really is.
Pirateghost said:
clockwork mod is NOT a custom ROM. clockwork mod is RECOVERY and on this device it is compiled WITH the kernel.
YOU HAVE A CUSTOM/MODIFIED KERNEL
I really dont understand why you dont just follow creepyncrawly's advice and tutorials...you are making this out WAAAAAY harder than it really is.
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Just want to insure that I've relayed all the necessary information, correctly. I guess I have. Thank you and I'm sorry I took anyone's time.
tunie said:
Well thank you. I give up. Really, I do.
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That dreaded yellow triangle show up when you flash a custom (non-stock) kernel. When you flash a stock kernel, it will go away. So... if you flash back to stock like I suggested, it will go away.
Pm me if you need more assistance
creepyncrawly said:
So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
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Thank you. It worked like a charm. Back to stock. Wonderful. Thank you so much. It wasn't as much a nail-biter as I thought it would be.
Wow! I need some help. I've acquired a Samsung Galaxy Note (i717, I believe) that shows all the signs of being healthy (appearance, touch screen, etc.) but persistently slows down at the ATT opening splash screen, begins to load Android, dies and reboots. Whatever variant rooted ROM I received it with (sluggish and unreliable) I have written over and now I can't get any farther than the Android settings screen. Therefore I do not know the exact version nor can I begin to set it up (wifi, etc.).
That's the 'presenting problem', so let me explain what I've done to this point (about 25 hrs. worth!). I have reloaded latest version of CWM (runs great) and then Padawan JB . . . same symptoms. I have loaded the ATT JB and ICS via the latest Odin successfully . . . with same symptoms. I have loaded TWRP (touch screen is snappy and works as it should) and Padawan JB again . . . with same symptoms. I have wiped caches before, after, and in between till I'm blue in the face, each time with the same symptoms. Most recently I have done a hard reset to native/factory settings . . . with no change! I've tried to scour the XDA (and any other sites) trouble shooting articles and seem to have come to a dead end.
Here's a couple things that I'm wondering: because I can't get deep enough into Android to check out the model number, could the phone be something other than an ATT model? At the top of the front face it simply says 'Samsung', not ATT at top and Samsung at bottom like my previous ATT Note. Right after boot I persistently get an ATT splash screen which would lead me to believe that it is ATT. Is there some other way to find model, say in TWRP? Do I need a phone specific version of Android? Second, everything seems to be working fine physically (i.e., no hardware problems). Could this thing have gotten a virus in an earlier life that's preventing the ROM from working right? I've not been able to get far enough to register it with my cell provider (second party, not ATT). Must you be up and running with the cell service to correctly load and use the ROM (wouldn't think so)? And if so, how without Android working? I've been using and playing with computers for 25 years, but I'm fairly new to the Android system (but learning fast!) Any help would sure be appreciated. I'd really like to resurrect this baby. I loved my first Note (till it fell off the car and disappeared).
pstrulm said:
Wow! I need some help. I've acquired a Samsung Galaxy Note (i717, I believe) that shows all the signs of being healthy (appearance, touch screen, etc.) but persistently slows down at the ATT opening splash screen, begins to load Android, dies and reboots. Whatever variant rooted ROM I received it with (sluggish and unreliable) I have written over and now I can't get any farther than the Android settings screen. Therefore I do not know the exact version nor can I begin to set it up (wifi, etc.).
That's the 'presenting problem', so let me explain what I've done to this point (about 25 hrs. worth!). I have reloaded latest version of CWM (runs great) and then Padawan JB . . . same symptoms. I have loaded the ATT JB and ICS via the latest Odin successfully . . . with same symptoms. I have loaded TWRP (touch screen is snappy and works as it should) and Padawan JB again . . . with same symptoms. I have wiped caches before, after, and in between till I'm blue in the face, each time with the same symptoms. Most recently I have done a hard reset to native/factory settings . . . with no change! I've tried to scour the XDA (and any other sites) trouble shooting articles and seem to have come to a dead end.
Here's a couple things that I'm wondering: because I can't get deep enough into Android to check out the model number, could the phone be something other than an ATT model? At the top of the front face it simply says 'Samsung', not ATT at top and Samsung at bottom like my previous ATT Note. Right after boot I persistently get an ATT splash screen which would lead me to believe that it is ATT. Is there some other way to find model, say in TWRP? Do I need a phone specific version of Android? Second, everything seems to be working fine physically (i.e., no hardware problems). Could this thing have gotten a virus in an earlier life that's preventing the ROM from working right? I've not been able to get far enough to register it with my cell provider (second party, not ATT). Must you be up and running with the cell service to correctly load and use the ROM (wouldn't think so)? And if so, how without Android working? I've been using and playing with computers for 25 years, but I'm fairly new to the Android system (but learning fast!) Any help would sure be appreciated. I'd really like to resurrect this baby. I loved my first Note (till it fell off the car and disappeared).
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Well, if you keep flashing an AT&T based rom, then yes, you will get an AT&T boot animation simply because it's part of the rom you are flashing.
You said "you think" you have an I717, did you take the battery off and physically look at the sticker beneath it to see the model?
Try TWRP, go to WIPE, and WIPE everything, which means checking every checkbox. Then flash a stock rom with a fresh phone (no data, nothing at all)
You said you did CWM->Padawan.. these are two totally different roms, so you should always do a factory reset whenever flashing two totally different roms.
You can't just rely on the Android->settings to see the info since roms overwrite these stuff in build.prop so if you flash a wrong rom, wrong info will show up.
Here's my advice:
1. Flash TWRP
2. Wipe in TWRP, check every checkbox
3. Flash a stock i717 rom
4. Reboot
If that doesn't work, either hardware is bad or your phone isn't for the I717 roms.
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Question, have you ever come to a point that the phone boots successfuly at all? You did mention CM works great. But you can't go from CWM->TW Based rom without factory reset in between.
fbauto1 said:
Well, if you keep flashing an AT&T based rom, then yes, you will get an AT&T boot animation simply because it's part of the rom you are flashing.
You said "you think" you have an I717, did you take the battery off and physically look at the sticker beneath it to see the model?
Try TWRP, go to WIPE, and WIPE everything, which means checking every checkbox. Then flash a stock rom with a fresh phone (no data, nothing at all)
You said you did CWM->Padawan.. these are two totally different roms, so you should always do a factory reset whenever flashing two totally different roms.
You can't just rely on the Android->settings to see the info since roms overwrite these stuff in build.prop so if you flash a wrong rom, wrong info will show up.
Here's my advice:
1. Flash TWRP
2. Wipe in TWRP, check every checkbox
3. Flash a stock i717 rom
4. Reboot
If that doesn't work, either hardware is bad or your phone isn't for the I717 roms.
Edit:
Question, have you ever come to a point that the phone boots successfuly at all? You did mention CM works great. But you can't go from CWM->TW Based rom without factory
I would reflash cwm thru odin after that I would flash the latest TWRP 2.5. Then you can flash whatever. If padawan is givin u problems try something else like AOSP or AOKP. Padawan is TW based. JaimeD builds are pretty sweet.
sent from my GalaxySuperNote running OC Padawan JB
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androidmechanic said:
fbauto1 said:
Well, if you keep flashing an AT&T based rom, then yes, you will get an AT&T boot animation simply because it's part of the rom you are flashing.
You said "you think" you have an I717, did you take the battery off and physically look at the sticker beneath it to see the model?
Try TWRP, go to WIPE, and WIPE everything, which means checking every checkbox. Then flash a stock rom with a fresh phone (no data, nothing at all)
You said you did CWM->Padawan.. these are two totally different roms, so you should always do a factory reset whenever flashing two totally different roms.
You can't just rely on the Android->settings to see the info since roms overwrite these stuff in build.prop so if you flash a wrong rom, wrong info will show up.
Here's my advice:
1. Flash TWRP
2. Wipe in TWRP, check every checkbox
3. Flash a stock i717 rom
4. Reboot
If that doesn't work, either hardware is bad or your phone isn't for the I717 roms.
Edit:
Question, have you ever come to a point that the phone boots successfuly at all? You did mention CM works great. But you can't go from CWM->TW Based rom without factory
I would reflash cwm thru odin after that I would flash the latest TWRP 2.5. Then you can flash whatever. If padawan is givin u problems try something else like AOSP or AOKP. Padawan is TW based. JaimeD builds are pretty sweet.
sent from my GalaxySuperNote running OC Padawan JB
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If you want TWRP, flash TWRP. No need to flash CWM
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AT&T Phones have a [logo}AT&T] on the top-center!!
But if you are in doubt, use kies to do a full recovery-restore [WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR DEVICE].
See post #4 on this thread.
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androidmechanic said:
If you want TWRP, flash TWRP. No need to flash CWM
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If you go thru Odin you would have cwm first. With the problems talked about, I would go back factory stock then re-root with Odin. Then thru cwm, flash twrp or whatever floats your boat.
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androidmechanic said:
If you go thru Odin you would have cwm first. With the problems talked about, I would go back factory stock then re-root with Odin. Then thru cwm, flash twrp or whatever floats your boat.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Nope. If you want TWRP, then flash TWRP via Odin. No need to go through CWM first. You can flash TWRP via Odin, you know that, right?
fbauto1 said:
Nope. If you want TWRP, then flash TWRP via Odin. No need to go through CWM first. You can flash TWRP via Odin, you know that, right?
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No I didn't know that. All of the Odin programs that I dealt with flash cwm. Than for the Intel tho. :thumbup:
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Nope. If you want TWRP, then flash TWRP via Odin. No need to go through CWM first. You can flash TWRP via Odin, you know that, right?
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No I didn't know that. All of the Odin programs that I dealt with flash cwm. Than for the Intel tho. :thumbup:
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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you are both actually correct, however, I am looking at PSTRULM's stats. if he is anything like me when I started, the more simple and less complication involved in the process, the more he may understand.
ANDROIDMECHANIC is stating the most basic and beginner way to do this and understand simply. after doing this a few times as I did, the basic mechanics of the process will become more fluent.
then he can make his own decisions as to methods which might be easier for him, without confusing.
I am sure you both are a huge help to everyone and I thank members such as yourself for your efforts. ME, I prefer baby steps, cause I know I can really EFF things up if I get confused
androidmechanic said:
No I didn't know that. All of the Odin programs that I dealt with flash cwm. Than for the Intel tho. :thumbup:
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Just a reminder.. when flashing through Odin, make sure it's an ODIN-flashable tarball, i.e., you can't flash a recovery-type zip through Odin and vice versa.