[Q] Battery, how to charge with cable? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I am wondering if anyone knows how to charge the atrix battery without the phone or charger? I have already cut a usb cable and have the red and black cables. I have also left the cable on the two outer connector from the battery, the ones that read +, -, for half hours and it does not charge.
I just want to know of the 4 connectors on the battery, where do I connect the positeve, and negative cable. the two outer connectors, two inner connector? of a combination?
Thank you!
P.S. I have team win recovery, and it just shows their first screen. I was flashing a rom, with the cable connected to the phone and phone just turned off. I do not have OS and now recovery access. Trying to fastboot and install rom racer's recovery.

I wouldn't suggest charging the battery straight from the cable, as connecting the wrong wire to the wrong lead could damage your battery.
You can purchase a standalone battery charger off the internet for about 10 dollars.
Look for SKU 59495 on dealextreme, but shop around a bit.
Cheers

Yeah, I thought of that, but today is friday, and I will not get until mid next week. They sell the chargers with the battery too, so I don't mind risking the battery as long as I can get this done.
I really need to know how to charge this battery!

Ok, figures it out... to charge with a cut usb cable, use the two middle connectors. I did it for like 3 minutes and I was able to use fastboot and flash rom racer recovery.
Now I need to know how to get backup rooms from teamwin recovery into rom racer as they are not showing.

Ummm....flip the battery over and you will see a + and - symbol...connect red to + and black to minus. I call it my battery jumper cable.
~trial and error~
~stable then crash~
~nurse and nerd~
~MISS SAM~

missajsam said:
Ummm....flip the battery over and you will see a + and - symbol...connect red to + and black to minus. I call it my battery jumper cable.
~trial and error~
~stable then crash~
~nurse and nerd~
~MISS SAM~
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So it is not the middle connectors? I left them for half hour on the two outside, the ones with the + and - and it did not work on fastboot, I then used the two on the middle, and they worked. I would be good if you can reconfirm for anyone that sees this in the future.

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[HELP] How to Fix "Battery Low - Cannot program"

Hi all,
A friend on Frandroid Forum, post the problem how to Fix "Battery Low - Cannot program" with Fasboot mode ... I see more post on defy, milestone, etc... but with the RAZR XT910 .. can't open and see the batterie....
Could you give your me an idea please ??
Sorry for my bad english
I post on the Defy thread too
Thanks in advance !!
Is your phone stuck or something? if it low battery then charge it up?
Thanks for your answer.
Apparently my friend charge all night, he just see a white led loading and this message when starting in fastboot!
He charge on PC so I advised him to use a charger rather and wait very long time ...
You must be charged before you attempt any flashing.
If the phone will boot normally you will need to boot it, let it charge, then flash.
If it it bricked, you may be out of luck.
Get out of the "Fastboot" menu and try to charge it.
merci à toi alex tu m'a bien dépatouillé
nexus351 said:
merci à toi alex tu m'a bien dépatouillé
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You are welcome (You must speak english here !! but I understand !)
i have the same problem only mine is worse:
got a gsm razr XT910 and accidentally formatted the system (i know very stupid move). In this case i believe a simple flash using RSD lite would work? ( -question because I've never done it before) but the problem was that i didn't have a pc nearby for a while. I tried switching it off but whatever i did it just booted back up so all the battery drained.. (i think i've found out how to force it to switch off now but thats not the point)
the point is that it was off completely, when i plug it into the wall charger it just tries to boot with the 'M' logo stuck on my screen, the LED is off and there's no charging going on. If i take it out of the charger at any point it just dies and doesn't start again unless i plug it in no matter how long it's been "charging".
The only thing that does happen where i see some hope is when i plug it into the pc now the screen remains black and the LED is white, after a while i can unplug it and it will work without the charger so i assume it charges through my pc. the thing is though, when i leave it plugged in every hour or so it tries to boot by itself and the LED becomes dark(not charging), left it like this overnight and it was dead in the morning. What i do to solve that is whenever it starts booting i switch it off and plug in again then its the same, LED on, screen off.
Using the PC method i can wait for like twenty minutes and then it has enough power for me to put it into the fastboot mode however it displays the "low battery cannot program" message and i can't flash using RSD..
My plan for now is to keep doing that hoping that it will charge this way, however its been 7 hours and it still tells me the battery low message...
Does anyone know anything that would help me? Any help will be so appreciated!
I heard of using a 'factory cable' but I'm not sure where to buy it and don't have the electronics equipment to make one. I live in london uk so maybe someone here who has one could help me out? Seriously at this point: any help any advice will be worth a lot,
Thanks in advance
Hi,
To make a factory cable you can see this thread
and if you want buy one ... see this link !!
Have a nice day.
this link is only for american deliveries I'm an London man!
Create your own cable !!! It's not very difficult !
he's talking about using a solder station to melt the wires together, i don't have that..
USB Cable
This happened to me and I had to jump it with a USB cable.
Here is what I did:
Take a standard USB cable and cut off a section of wire with the larger connector ( the side that connects to the computer).
Strip the outer shell exposing 4 small wires (2data, 2 power).
Tie off the Green and white wires and strip the Red and Black.
Remove the back from your Razr and connect the Red wire to the + and the Black to the - terminal of your Battery (they're marked).
Plug in the USB and boot into Fastboot.
Connect your standard Data cable to the phone and do your thing.
Just saying....
There's actually a thread in the RAZR Development section. You could have found it in seconds if you searched for it instead of directly creating a new thread.
[GSM/CDMA] How to flash a via RSD when you read "Cannot program" or "Battery LOW"
mindrazr said:
This happened to me and I had to jump it with a USB cable.
Here is what I did:
Take a standard USB cable and cut off a section of wire with the larger connector ( the side that connects to the computer).
Strip the outer shell exposing 4 small wires (2data, 2 power).
Tie off the Green and white wires and strip the Red and Black.
Remove the back from your Razr and connect the Red wire to the + and the Black to the - terminal of your Battery (they're marked).
Plug in the USB and boot into Fastboot.
Connect your standard Data cable to the phone and do your thing.
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Thanks for the advice although i have a couple of questions:
-After cutting off the part of the cable we keep the large usb end right?
-What do you mean by the outer shell? The part that actually goes into the computer? or the casing of the cable on the cut off side?
Thanks
Yes, you keep the larger end that connects to the computer.
Strip the outer wire to reveal the 4 colored inner wires.
mindrazr said:
Yes, you keep the larger end that connects to the computer.
Strip the outer wire to reveal the 4 colored inner wires.
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I've done that, and i'll connect the wires to the battery screws in a sec and then i plug it in to the charger? and a normal usb to the pc as well?
uhhh..
No, don't plug it into the wall charger at all.. That's crazy talk.
Just plug both USB cables into your computer and fire up Fastboot.
keeps saying "failed flashing process, phone returned fail"
what is wrong now?? everything should be fine
ok
I'm assuming you're referring to a massage being displayed by RSD when run on your computer?
Walk me through your process in detail. What does your phone say when this happens?
How did you connect the USB to your battery? If you didn't make a secure enough connection it won't provide enough juice. You need clean wires and a secure connection. I loosened the battery terminal screws and connected the wires directly to the terminals then tightened the screws and it worked without issue.
Need a little more information before I know exactly what's going on.
alright so i screwed the wires to the terminal of the battery and then plugged it into the computer, i wasn't sure what was supposed to happen and when nothing did for a while i plugged it into the wall charger and it started booting up.(i know you advised not to do it but i did it before reading your post) In fast boot menu at that point it would tell me "battery ok". So i went on and tried to plug it into the pc ac well with a normal cable and everything was fine RSD lite saw it i extracted the fast boot files and then when i press start it comes back with the fail error and stops straight away on the first step. I tried flashing different versions of the software and no good. I waited for my battery to charge (it now says battery ok even when unplugged ) still no good. Then read your post and did it the way you explained, still no good. Exactly the same error every time. And if i press the peer button while in fast boot to power off it would come back to ap fast boot by itself and at the top it would say "flash failed" or something like that. I tries re-installing the ADK tools or whatever its called and still nothing.
So i found a very good russian website that explains how to use moto-fastboot to install the system.img through the terminal and i have everything and the fast boot thing is on c:\ directly and i go into the terminal as an admin and whenever i write in moto-fastboot it comes back with "moto-fastboot isn't recognized as an internal or external command..." no matter what i do.. i've looked for a solution the whole day, can someone please help me
Thanks

[Q] How to unroot without charge

so i think my charging port has gone bad but im still rooted... so i cant take it back till i unroot it any ideas. Ive got the factore cable and charger let it sit overnight and it does nothing. doesnt even give me the low battery screen. Any help would be helpful.
outridger said:
so i think my charging port has gone bad but im still rooted... so i cant take it back till i unroot it any ideas. Ive got the factore cable and charger let it sit overnight and it does nothing. doesnt even give me the low battery screen. Any help would be helpful.
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sorry to hear about your troubles. it is 'rare' to hear about the factory cable & charger going bad. they seem to be 'very good quality' like the NT. . could it be that the tablet is in a 'hung / locked up' condition where its drawing plenty of milli-amperes even when it 'looks' like its off ? ? ? . if you look at the display, at an extreme angle, can you see the back light 'on' ? . did you try holding the "N" button down for twenty seconds ?
ok so a bought a new cable from barns but it doesnt have the charge light on it just has a "n" but without the light. while at barns i had them try to charge it and they had the charger with the light. it would give the message while there that battery is low and needs charged i dont get that with the current cable. the bottem right side of the nook does get hot though after its been on the cable for a bit. ive tried the power button the 'n' button both of them and i dont see a change in the screen. im headed to barns to replace the cord i bought for one with the light. ill update after that.
Power cable bad
outridger said:
ok so a bought a new cable from barns but it doesnt have the charge light on it just has a "n" but without the light. while at barns i had them try to charge it and they had the charger with the light. it would give the message while there that battery is low and needs charged i dont get that with the current cable. the bottem right side of the nook does get hot though after its been on the cable for a bit. ive tried the power button the 'n' button both of them and i dont see a change in the screen. im headed to barns to replace the cord i bought for one with the light. ill update after that.
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I have found that the power adapter is very good quality. However, the Nook cable -- not so much. It is especially vulnerable at the end that plugs into the Nook. It is the same adapter/cable that the Nook Color uses and I have had to replace two of them plus a friend recently had to replace one.
If you call the B&N Tech Support, they will send you a new cable for free. (At least they did for me. They even sent it 2-day.) Even if you buy a new one at B&N, still call and get the broken one replaced and you will have a spare.
Note: You CAN use a standard (non-B&N) Micro-USB cable to charge the Nook but it will not charge as fast as the B&N cable - and it may not even keep the device charged if the screen is lit. They built the B&N cable to add extra connections to carry a heavier load and therefore it charges the Nook much faster. That is why you CANNOT use the B&N cable on a non-Nook device. You CAN use the B&N adapter to power a standard USB cable & attached (NON-B&N device) though.
To answer your original question. There are certainly very technical ways to unroot the device without charging the battery. But for normal users, there is none that I can imagine.

[Q] My S3 is not charging

Like a week ago my S3 9300 was taking longer and longer to charge now it won't charge at all, now is always stuck at 0% if i turn it off it will charge but very very slowly, i don't know if it's the phone or the battery maybe someone here had the same problem and could help me out a little, btw i have it with CM 10.1 thank you
Alejo
Had the same exact problem with my i9300, got it out of warranty repairs yesterday. Was using a custom rom, but the same thing happened when I finally managed to flash it back to stock (had to manually press the microusb-cable as hard as I could into the phone all the time in order to get the phone recognized while Odin was working, was the longest flash ever lol..).
Remember reading about cold solder joints etc before sending it off, so if your phone is out of warranty for some reason you could replace the charging port yourself. Replacement part costs ~5$ (eBay) and if you got the skills it shouldn't be too hard to replace.
EDIT: Actually mine didn't even charge when power off, so I was pretty certain it was a bad solder joint or some other physical problem.. Have you tried cleaning the usb port with pressured air or just blowing into the port? Could be some pins of the usb port blocked with debris. Also check your usb cables, there are those with 5 pins and those with only 4. Saw the difference in charging speed while the thing was still working.
zombie112 said:
Had the same exact problem with my i9300, got it out of warranty repairs yesterday. Was using a custom rom, but the same thing happened when I finally managed to flash it back to stock (had to manually press the microusb-cable as hard as I could into the phone all the time in order to get the phone recognized while Odin was working, was the longest flash ever lol..).
Remember reading about cold solder joints etc before sending it off, so if your phone is out of warranty for some reason you could replace the charging port yourself. Replacement part costs ~5$ (eBay) and if you got the skills it shouldn't be too hard to replace.
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Well actually when i plug the phone into the PC it will recognize it and i can access the files in the SD card and Internal Memory and everything at the moment it's turned off and it's charging.
I have the problem that the phone only want to charge with soms chargers.
I can connect the phone to the original charger or to a pc or any device without problems, the phone will charge.
Even with an old blackberry charger (only 2 wires, no data) and car charger can i charge without any problem!
But when i connect the phone to the htc charger of my old phone, or to an iphone charger i see the phone is connected but it won't charge.
When i open batterymonitor i see that the charger is connected, but the phone still use his battery.
I tried this with all kinds of charders and all kinds of micro usb cables. Then i thaught there was maybe a resistor or chip or something build in some chargers, because i couls only charge with chargers with 2 wire cables.
Then i took a usb extension cable and i disconnected the two data wires so only the + and - 5V cables were left,
but still no success. If anybody knows where the problem is, please let my know
with kind regards! Martijn

[Q] Last attempt before tossing tablet

Hi I have a Sony Xperia S SGPT-121US the "multi port" broke and now the tablet will no longer charge. I have stuff from work I really need. Is there any place I can purchase a replacement? (tried ebay,digi key already) Or can I charge thebattery any other way like Wireless or anything?
Thanks in advance for any feedback.:fingers-crossed:
ty949 said:
Hi I have a Sony Xperia S SGPT-121US the "multi port" broke and now the tablet will no longer charge. I have stuff from work I really need. Is there any place I can purchase a replacement? (tried ebay,digi key already) Or can I charge thebattery any other way like Wireless or anything?
Thanks in advance for any feedback.:fingers-crossed:
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is your port bad or is it the cable? i have the sgpt-1211 and i cant hardly find anything about it and $70 for some bs charger is crazy. good luck
potna said:
is your port bad or is it the cable? i have the sgpt-1211 and i cant hardly find anything about it and $70 for some bs charger is crazy. good luck
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Unfortunately it's the port I just paid $40 for a brand new charger (so mad) I can see a corner of the dock got broke off. I'm bidding on a parts tablet on ebay right now fingers crossed. Otherwise it's for parts on ebay and try to get back some money?
Different problem now
So I decided to open up the tablet and charge the battery by connecting a usb cable with one side stripped and soldered the positive and negative to the proper leads on the battery. So Now I get a red light flashing 10 times on the side where the power button and volume buttons are. Before I had nothing at all. Any Suggestions?
ty949 said:
So I decided to open up the tablet and charge the battery by connecting a usb cable with one side stripped and soldered the positive and negative to the proper leads on the battery. So Now I get a red light flashing 10 times on the side where the power button and volume buttons are. Before I had nothing at all. Any Suggestions?
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I would suggest you send it to Sony for repair, but I don't want to spoil all the fun you are having.
ty949 said:
So I decided to open up the tablet and charge the battery by connecting a usb cable with one side stripped and soldered the positive and negative to the proper leads on the battery. So Now I get a red light flashing 10 times on the side where the power button and volume buttons are. Before I had nothing at all. Any Suggestions?
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What voltage is the battery??? I have used a stripped USB cable many times to revive a dead phone battery. 5V => 3.72V is safe enough... I know the battery from the STS is a 9Vish (from memory) prehaps you could wire off the end of your tablet charger for the extra voltage?? SOUNDS LIKE FUN
so what did you end up doing? trash, won your ebay auction? sell yours??? send to sony? i'd like to know since parts for these things are going to be hard to source. also what model do you have?

SGP311 brick - no usb signal at all, no boot, some led blinks...

Hi,
Please, be patient while reading this post, this is a looong explanation of the brick I am facing...
I recently was given a non working XTZ SGP311 and tried to get it back to life. As I have another one SGP311 (this one is perfectly working), I am able to check many things.
I read most of topics about XTZ unbrick but can't find any way to get it back working.
The problem is that I can't have any signal from usb (data or power). I use a genuine Sony USB cable and genuine Sony charging adapter (coming from the working SGP311). The led always stays off.
I tried the different combos as described (vol- and power ; vol+ and power ; vol+ and vol- and power) during 5, 10, 20, 30 seconds (yes, quite complete tests).
I did a cross check of batteries and inside usb connector ribbon (yes, had to open both tablets for that), the working tablet continues to work with the 2 parts coming from the faulty one (battery coming from dead tablet was 0% charged), so the problem is not on the side of the inside usb connector neither on the side of a supposed dead battery. The faulty tablet doesn't boot, even with a fully charged battery inside.
I luckily own a XTZ dock (SGPDS5) that allows to charge without using usb connector (it uses the 2 contacts located on the left side of the tablet). That's the only way to get something...
Soooo, when I put the bricked tablet on its dock, the red led flashes very slowy (say, 1 second off, 1 second on red, and so on).
When I press vol- and power, nothing happens (no matter 5/10/15/20/25 seconds).
When I press vol- and vol+ and power, idem.
When I press vol+ and power : I got the sequence blinks once white led / blinks 3 times white led (after that goes to slow red blinking about if I keep the keys pressed). So not completely dead.
If I unplug it from the dock right after the third white blink, plug the usb cable to the tablet, plug it to my laptop (with emma running, tried with pc companion too), and press vol-, then....nothing happens. Really nothing. No led lit. No detection of anything from the laptop (or device manager as well). It would have been the same if I would have kept it unplugged.
To sum it up, the only thing I can have is 1 or 3 white blinks after having plugged the SGP311 on its docks.
IMO, the trouble comes from a faulty component inside the tablet. Maybe the one that manages the connection from the usb ribbon plug. I checked the tiny plugs inside the tablet (once dismantled and back repacked too), all seems in order.
Your help is welcome !
This is similar to an issue I have it sounds like, you can still flash stock rom by holding power + volume till it blinks 3x then plug USB in and hold volume down immediately.
This gives flash mode, you can use flash tool to put stock rom on with this. The issue happens when it's acting like there's no OS it seems. Problem is mines doing this everytime I flash a custom rom, it's fine with stock aside from **** wifi
Thanks for your help. I tried that yesterday and it did not work.
This may be related to the way of reset I use (but I can't have any other).
As I can't get any white blinking led when connected by the tablet micro-usb port, the one and only way to get the 3 times white blinking led is when the XTZ is on its dock (SGP DS5, power connection only by lateral contacts).
What I tried yesterday was to get the 3 time white blinking led (vol+ and Power), then output the tablet off the dock and connect a usb cable to a laptop running Sony Emma (from micro usb tablet port to usb laptop).
Precision : I kept VOL- pressed when pluging usb cable to laptop.
No result at all. No detection (either Emma nor windows).
Any idea ?
jzk01 said:
Thanks for your help. I tried that yesterday and it did not work.
This may be related to the way of reset I use (but I can't have any other).
As I can't get any white blinking led when connected by the tablet micro-usb port, the one and only way to get the 3 times white blinking led is when the XTZ is on its dock (SGP DS5, power connection only by lateral contacts).
What I tried yesterday was to get the 3 time white blinking led (vol+ and Power), then output the tablet off the dock and connect a usb cable to a laptop running Sony Emma (from micro usb tablet port to usb laptop).
Precision : I kept VOL- pressed when pluging usb cable to laptop.
No result at all. No detection (either Emma nor windows).
Any idea ?
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let it charge for a night period. Then try to flash again.
Rootk1t said:
let it charge for a night period. Then try to flash again.
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Thanks for your advice, I appreciate.
But I swapped batteries from the working XTZ to the non-working one and put a (about) 60% charged battery into the bricked XTZ (both batteries are charging when set into the working XTZ). I will try anyway.
The problem is that the non working XTZ does not charge either through usb or through the dock. The only interest of the dock is that this is only situation where I can have the "triple white led blink" (but nothing more).
That's why I need the working XTZ for charging before doing anything with the non working one.
What I could try would be to connect the lateral contacts with wires to the dock in order to keep an access to the usb tablet micro port and connect it to a laptop.
But this may be hairy as this would give 2 ways for power (one by the dock and the other by the USB port), and may produce a short circuit...
Any XTZ power experts around ?
Hello, Did you find a solution to this issue ?
Hello, did you find a solution for this issue ? Look like that I had the same.
jzk01 said:
Thanks for your advice, I appreciate.
But I swapped batteries from the working XTZ to the non-working one and put a (about) 60% charged battery into the bricked XTZ (both batteries are charging when set into the working XTZ). I will try anyway.
The problem is that the non working XTZ does not charge either through usb or through the dock. The only interest of the dock is that this is only situation where I can have the "triple white led blink" (but nothing more).
That's why I need the working XTZ for charging before doing anything with the non working one.
What I could try would be to connect the lateral contacts with wires to the dock in order to keep an access to the usb tablet micro port and connect it to a laptop.
But this may be hairy as this would give 2 ways for power (one by the dock and the other by the USB port), and may produce a short circuit...
Any XTZ power experts around ?
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Canhobix said:
Hello, did you find a solution for this issue ? Look like that I had the same.
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Well, not a real solution...
I bought a cheap xtz with broken screen and got its working motherboard and put it instead of the other one.I got the lte component too with its antenna and put it into the 1st xtz that was not supposed to have lte.
So now, on one side I have a xtz with faulty motherboard and broken screen, and on the other side a refurbished xtz with LTE !
I like very much this tablet. Very handy, easy to dismantle and easy to swap its components.
The only drawback is no more support for Sony.
Thank you for the answer
So, you are saying that if I replace the motherboard I can fix that ? I'm looking for motherboard on ebay and I found one for $28 usd + shihpping.
Thank you for answering and take care.
jzk01 said:
Well, not a real solution...
I bought a cheap xtz with broken screen and got its working motherboard and put it instead of the other one.I got the lte component too with its antenna and put it into the 1st xtz that was not supposed to have lte.
So now, on one side I have a xtz with faulty motherboard and broken screen, and on the other side a refurbished xtz with LTE !
I like very much this tablet. Very handy, easy to dismantle and easy to swap its components.
The only drawback is no more support for Sony.
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Canhobix said:
So, you are saying that if I replace the motherboard I can fix that ? I'm looking for motherboard on ebay and I found one for $28 usd + shihpping.
Thank you for answering and take care.
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Yes. I think this should be good.
Don't care about the exact matching of the product code: as long as it'll be xtz, it'll be good (16 or 32 gb, with or without lte, and any region should match).
Did you opened it already ?
Yes, I opened 2 years ago cuz my son broke the power jack connector then I replaced that twice.
I'm also tech guy, I can replace that, but won't expend more than $50 for a new motherboard. I'm looking on ebay now.
Thank you
jzk01 said:
Yes. I think this should be good.
Don't care about the exact matching of the product code: as long as it'll be xtz, it'll be good (16 or 32 gb, with or without lte, and any region should match).
Did you opened it already ?
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