I love the EVO LTE but the 3G speeds I'm experiencing are abysmal. I can get a carrier pigeon to move this fast. Pathetic Sprint, just pathetic...
And your question is? you posted this in the Q&A
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How do I get a decent speed?
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Everyone knew or should of known before getting the phone that lte was not up yet and you would be on the 3G network.
If your sales person didn't tell you this then I would take it up with your salesperson. If you bought the phone online then sorry about your luck, lesson learned. ( Hopefully )
Either way don't knock Sprint for something they have made clear. It was never stated to have 4G WiMax. Only 3G and lte when available.
Better speed.....wait for lte.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672123
here is another link from a quick search
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/boost-the-speed-of-your-evos-3g-and-get-your-music-faster/
Hope that helps some
blkout01 said:
Everyone knew or should of known before getting the phone that lte was not up yet and you would be on the 3G network.
If your sales person didn't tell you this then I would take it up with your salesperson. If you bought the phone online then sorry about your luck, lesson learned. ( Hopefully )
Either way don't knock Sprint for something they have made clear. It was never stated to have 4G WiMax. Only 3G and lte when available.
Better speed.....wait for lte.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672123
here is another link from a quick search
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/boost-the-speed-of-your-evos-3g-and-get-your-music-faster/
Hope that helps some
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that is abysmal for 3G speeds I think was his point. Everyone is anxiously awaiting for network vision/LTE so we no longer have to deal with Sprints horrific 3G network
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How do I get a decent speed?
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You brought the EVO LTE thinking you might get decent 3g speeds? I'm sure you're smarter then that or am I giving you to much credit? This is an old subject we should be discussed somewhere else.
I completely knew what I was getting. However, I did not expect slower 3G than I had with the OF EVO. Nor .MMS that don't download. LTE will be here soon but I'd like just a but of utility out of 3G...
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All you guys complaining about 3g speed ever heard of the Network Vision?
BE PATIENT. Sprint is in the process of improving their entire network. You may not see the improvements yet, but trust me they are working on it.
I live in Aurora, CO and there are two towers here that are as opposite as night and day. One is totally bogged down and speeds are 200 kbps Down and 200 kbps Up with 400 ping. About 3 miles away, another tower gives me 1200 kbps down and 800 kbps up with 100 ping.
They are working on it, just have patience.
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All you guys complaining about 3g speed ever heard of the Network Vision?
BE PATIENT. Sprint is in the process of improving their entire network. You may not see the improvements yet, but trust me they are working on it.
I live in Aurora, CO and there are two towers here that are as opposite as night and day. One is totally bogged down and speeds are 200 kbps Down and 200 kbps Up with 400 ping. About 3 miles away, another tower gives me 1200 kbps down and 800 kbps up with 100 ping.
They are working on it, just have patience.
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I've been patient with Sprint for over 12 years. I get that it is coming. The point is 3G is worse now than it was with the OG. And this is with new towers on 3G in the area. Simply pathetic especially considering I work and live next to a major international airport and large technology corridor.
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Push *2
Dial
Update PRL
Repeat (i had to do two updates)
Speedtest again. Betcha ur speed is way better.
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Update PRL
Repeat (i had to do two updates)
Speedtest again. Betcha ur speed is way better.
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I've updated each PRL released. No better...
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OP: well, if you're so upset about current 3g speeds and aren't willing to wait a little more, then please feel free to hop over to verizon or ever ATT. No one's stopping you.
Good luck, have fun.
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OP: well, if you're so upset about current 3g speeds and aren't willing to wait a little more, then please feel free to hop over to verizon or ever ATT. No one's stopping you.
Good luck, have fun.
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I like Sprint. The whole point is speeds seem worse with the EVOLTE than on the old device. It is either an issue with the EVOLTE or the network is getting worse rather than better.
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The problem is that most people, including myself actually have better 3G speeds with the newer radio technology on the LTE compared to older generation smartphones.
Refer to this thread for more opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671214
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The problem is that most people, including myself actually have better 3G speeds with the newer radio technology on the LTE compared to older generation smartphones.
Refer to this thread for more opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671214
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That's what I don't get. I have read how people are doing better yet I'm about as bad as it can get in almost every area I try.
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That's what I don't get. I have read how people are doing better yet I'm about as bad as it can get in almost every area I try.
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You could always call the Sprint direct customer service line, 877-775-4886, and make a formal complaint about said speeds. See if they can give you some freebies if not some information regarding the Network Vision roll-out in your local area. Who knows, they might throw in some credit or something.
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You could always call the Sprint direct customer service line, 877-775-4886, and make a formal complaint about said speeds. See if they can give you some freebies if not some information regarding the Network Vision roll-out in your local area. Who knows, they might throw in some credit or something.
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That might be my best bet. I was cool with 3G on the OG - hardly ever used WiMax since it was so spotty. I am simply at a loss for how this is playing out when everyone else seems to be having much better luck.
My 3g speeds are about the same as they were on my og evo, and most of the time they suck. The part that really sucks for me is that I might notice that my speeds are really slow and run a speed test, and confirm it, then an hour, or day later, the speed might be flying.
As an example, I just ran a speed test because it seemed slow, I got 203 kbps down and 506 kbps up. Yesterday I noticed it seemed faster than normal, so I did a speed test from my desk at work, the same location as the test I just did today. I got 2389 kbps down and 925 kbps up, by far the fastest I have ever seen it here.
At home I rarely see speeds over 100 kbps, yet just the other day I got about 1000 kbps down there. The bottom line for me is, I wouldn't care if the speeds weren't great if they were just consistent. It sucks when I need to do something quick and the data connection is crawling, which is the case more often than not.
I had a problem right out of the box. My ping was over 800 and was getting under 100 down. Weird thing wad that up was at like 300. I had this problem with my 3# so I called sprint and asked for my msl. Enter ##72786#. Enter your msl and then go to menu reset. It will reactivate. My speeds went up to over 1000. Worth a shot for u guys. Interesting sidenote... When I called in the tech told me to power down the phone and remove the battery. I let him know that these phones don't have removable batteries. Amazing that some techs don't even know about their flagship devices...
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I had a problem right out of the box. My ping was over 800 and was getting under 100 down. Weird thing wad that up was at like 300. I had this problem with my 3# so I called sprint and asked for my msl. Enter ##72786#. Enter your msl and then go to menu reset. It will reactivate. My speeds went up to over 1000. Worth a shot for u guys. Interesting sidenote... When I called in the tech told me to power down the phone and remove the battery. I let him know that these phones don't have removable batteries. Amazing that some techs don't even know about their flagship devices...
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I ran that and updated profile and PRL again and I see some improvement. Sprint acknowledged an outage but it sounds like it covers Baltimore, DC and VA which doesn't narrow much for me. It is also off peak hours so we'll see how it works tomorrow. Regardless, thanks for the code.
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This is ridiculous. It's taking like 2 mins to load Google?
I've already done the proxy removal and I'm only getting like 100 kbps. What's going on here??
Welcome to sprint ...
Reboot
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i just connected just fine in a few seconds
Your actually doing better than me. I've been capping off at 79
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I have to use 4g to do any web browsing? This is terrible.
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Your actually doing better than me. I've been capping off at 79
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That's about right for Sprint 3G. It's within the 3G range for Sprint, anyway.
After removing the proxies I went from like 500kbps to 1.3mbps in my house...1-2 bars...sometimes 3....
Today I was in an area that was previously almost a deadzone, no bars but no roaming.....I got 1.5mbps-2.1mbps!??? It was phenomenal. The 4G in that area only netted my like 7mbps, even though 4g in my area (which I cannot get in my house) I've gotten up to 18mbps before.
Call sprint, report deadzones. If nobody tells them they won't do anything.
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If you live in the boonies.
It's fast in California.
I live in NYC.
Just did a speed test and got 11 kbps. Pretty sure NYC isn't in the boonies.
Live in Chicago burbs, as I type this, roaming alert came on
On my.EVO 4G don't think I ever saw the roam alert. On this 3VO it roams few times a day. That NEVER used to happen.
3G service has hit the ****ter lately.
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322kbps in Philadelphia! Yeah 3g is terrible. Is there any plan on fixing this?
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Live in Chicago burbs, as I type this, roaming alert came on
On my.EVO 4G don't think I ever saw the roam alert. On this 3VO it roams few times a day. That NEVER used to happen.
3G service has hit the ****ter lately.
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3G service when I had my Lotus and Moment were actually impressive for a mobile device...I was surprised.
3G Service the day I got my Evo4G was VERY impressive....and it just declined steadily from there. For a while I thought it was me screwing with the phone too much....but 2 and 2, etc....
The 3G speeds I get on my Evo3D are right in line with the Evo4G and the steady decline in service in my area (probably proportionate to some of the (now) 500,000 android activiations every effing day)....but the radio is like 1-1.5 bars lower than my Evo would average....which sucks. Performance isn't affected unless it's a fringe situation, like the bathroom at work...which sucks, I like to read CNN when I poop, but I digress.
I expect radio updates will help a lot, but, I ain't touchin' any of that until we have some action out of HTC or failing that one of our brilliant devs does what they are bound to do anyway...
...I've gotta admit, I've been F5ing the living fnck out of the two root threads in development and they are fascinating and at times exciting....I recommend it, it's better than the drunken 6-year-old mob mentality that has tended to coalesce in General lately--I haven't even bothered with Q&A....
Man I never thought I'd see the day where I'd salivate over 322 kbps.
If only Verizon would release better phones...
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Man I never thought I'd see the day where I'd salivate over 322 kbps.
If only Verizon would release better phones...
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So flash a verizon PRL and watch your usage....once you hit 300mb put back the sprint PRL...it's like you are throttling yourself, lol.
Seriously, if Verizon is that much better where you are do it....where I am Verizon has a stronger signal but they also have MANY MANY MANY times more customers than Sprint, so, their network is way oversold and over utilized....Sprint not so much....so Sprint has weaker signals and faster speeds on average.
In terms of voice, Sprint is the clear winner where I am but for some reason Data is just the worst.
How would I go about flashing a Verizon PRL? I have the PRL file but I'm unsure of how to actually flash it.
Did you try calling Sprint and getting them to reprovision your phone?
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In terms of voice, Sprint is the clear winner where I am but for some reason Data is just the worst.
How would I go about flashing a Verizon PRL? I have the PRL file but I'm unsure of how to actually flash it.
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My mistake for saying 'flashing', force of habit...
First thing you have to do is get your MSL, you can either call Sprint and ask for it or use the popular method (with CDMA workshop) that's currently around the top of the Dev section... I usually just called for it, but, for geekliness I had to rip it out myself and it was an effin' snap to do, so, just follow those directions to get it...
....then there is a thread floating around here (and/or the Evo4g forum) with a number of Verizon and Verizon/Altell hybrid PRL's.....download a couple...31337 is good I hear
then you punch in some ## codes, load the PRL file, reboot and ***POOF***, you are on verizon--still consuming roaming data and voice--but you aren't limited to 1x....
EDIT: Don't forget to hit "menu:commit changes" to reboot--or you won't make any changes.
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My mistake for saying 'flashing', force of habit...
First thing you have to do is get your MSL, you can either call Sprint and ask for it or use the popular method (with CDMA workshop) that's currently around the top of the Dev section... I usually just called for it, but, for geekliness I had to rip it out myself and it was an effin' snap to do, so, just follow those directions to get it...
....then there is a thread floating around here (and/or the Evo4g forum) with a number of Verizon and Verizon/Altell hybrid PRL's.....download a couple...31337 is good I hear
then you punch in some ## codes, load the PRL file, reboot and ***POOF***, you are on verizon--still consuming roaming data and voice--but you aren't limited to 1x....
EDIT: Don't forget to hit "menu:commit changes" to reboot--or you won't make any changes.
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Hmm thanks. I already have the MSL, but I don't see anything in the ##3282# to load in a new PRL. Is that the right code?
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OK whoa whoa! I got a nice 300 kbps just now. I changed a setting in that menu regarding EVDO. Changed it from CDMA only to Automatic. Lemme revert and see what happens.
Speedtest:
359 kbps
4821 kbps WTF?
Zorachus said:
Live in Chicago burbs, as I type this, roaming alert came on
On my.EVO 4G don't think I ever saw the roam alert. On this 3VO it roams few times a day. That NEVER used to happen.
3G service has hit the ****ter lately.
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I used to live in the Des Moines area of Iowa and the 3G was awesome...moved to Chicago and noticed its about dial up...don't know how you guys got/get by on just 3G. The EVO never went off 4G...
What's really sad is I could do speed tests on 3G in IA that are only slightly slower than my 4G tests here.
Every once and a while I'll check my speed test app to see what im getting for 3G download speed. Lately ive been getting over 1000 ping and like .1 mbps download. I went in and did a data profile reset and that fixed the problem. This has happened to me multiple times over the past couple of weeks.
Has this happened to anyone else? And if so, are devs going to fix this in their roms when the bootloader is unlocked?
Well, it's Sprint, so that's normal 3G speeds...
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
my 3g used to be fire!!! now it seems as if everybody has joined sprint and the network is hella saturated!!!!!!!
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Every once and a while I'll check my speed test app to see what im getting for 3G download speed. Lately ive been getting over 1000 ping and like .1 mbps download. I went in and did a data profile reset and that fixed the problem. This has happened to me multiple times over the past couple of weeks.
Has this happened to anyone else? And if so, are devs going to fix this in their roms when the bootloader is unlocked?
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Depends on your location. If you check the Sprint forums, there are tons of people complaining about data speeds all over the country. There's certain areas in the Bronx where I have full 4G and only getting 0.50mbps down...it's crazy!
I would say do a ##3282# and make sure your EVDO is set to auto not CDMA. Menu>commit changes & reboot. Update PRL then profile. I guess you've done that?
i was told that for the last month and a half it was because of thunderstorms. i asked him since there are just a few towers between the 44 miles i drive to work, how did all those storms only hit sprint's antennae and not verizon's that are on the same towers?
i talked to a gm at the sprint store last night and he said they're having major data issues and there's no time frame of when they'll ever be fixed. just outside that sprint store i have full 5 bars on 3g and only get 100kb/s. i made sure i was outside of the sprint store's range just in case they had a 3g airave.
they did fix the slow data in my city and most of the areas where i drive to work. now min of 600Kb/s and up to 1.8Mb/s
I find Sprint's network getting worse and worse...they're loading it up with new customers enticed by high end smartphones, but they're not boosting the capacity to match their growth. What scares me is, how much lower is it going to go? :/
Around here I get about 75-200kbps down. It can go to less than 40kbps during lunchtime.
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I find Sprint's network getting worse and worse...they're loading it up with new customers enticed by high end smartphones, but they're not boosting the capacity to match their growth. What scares me is, how much lower is it going to go? :/
Around here I get about 75-200kbps down. It can go to less than 40kbps during lunchtime.
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they will let it go pretty far. currently the tower that services my house will be so overloaded during the evening hours that speeds are 0-5k. last night between 7-11pm 3g was unuseable and 4g was zooming at 20k.
ive had dates of april 30th, may 30th, june 30th, and now july 30th as dates when the towers were to be upgraded. i honestly think they just throw dates around so they can get you off the phone.
Same here. During peak hours data is unusable without a wifi connection. I called so many times to put service tickets on the local towers. It's so fustrating. Everytime I call I'm on the phone for like 40mins tell them it's not my phone, it's a network issue. They just don't get it. BTW does anyone have the number for advanced sprint tech support? I'm going to keep calling until they fix the issue.
This is what bugs me so much paying the $10 Premium data Fee. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind paying the fee if I actually get premium data, but 100kbs down is not premium data. Something has to be done. What the hell are theying doing with that fee? They certainly aren't putting it back into their network. I hope Sprint doesn't get the Iphone because it will only get worse.
You're not in 3G. Your in 1x when you get those speeds. The Display will always say 3G even when switch to 1x.
Once rooted, that can be fixed to reflect what you are really on.
Welcome to sprint. Where are you from?
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Welcome to sprint. Where are you from?
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This what I was going to say. LOL
Welcome to Sprint the Nation Wide slowest 3G available.
Welcome to Sprint-The (hope you dont need to download that)Now Network
First, try this:
http://bit.ly/qsq8Tn
[MOD] Data Latency (Slow Data) Fix
And second, it is not unusual. I have tried to play online games(BFBC2 etc.) via Wi-Fi hotspot. With poor success. Reasons for this is poor connection(long range to Cell-towers) network overcapacity etc. etc.
Shutting phone's Ciphering should raise U/D speed as above thread say, but I guess that there is not any mindblowing way to fix it. Updating radios would help but.
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I said it once and I'll say it again Location, Location, Location. I am Cali bay area(Currently in Lafayette, CA) and my Evo 4G just ran 962k down and 656k up 187 ping. Evo 3d same time test ran 164 ping 1038k down and 609k up. Now at my house in El Sobrante, CA about 15 minutes away I would not come close to touching that speed. Usually around 50k or worse. One thing is I never rely on 3g to do anything for me. I have wifi at home and work and at times 4g. If I am in 3g only location I do not expect to get anything important done.
Edit: Keep in mind I also did the speed fix on both phones. Have to have msl for that.
Here are a couple images for you one is my Verizon 3G Xoom and the other my EVO 3D. Lets face it Sprint speed sucks.
Those with poor eyes site the Xoom says:
Down:
1303.7
1331.6
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1455.7
1863.5
Im gonna guess the people that get these good speeds are in sparse areas or areas with few sprint customers. I've been complaining about Sprint speeds since October of last year and its only getting worse and worse. I can remember constant speeds of 1.2-1.8 megs down and now im doing good just to get 250kb/s. The 4G has fallen off quite a bit too.
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Im gonna guess the people that get these good speeds are in sparse areas or areas with few sprint customers. I've been complaining about Sprint speeds since October of last year and its only getting worse and worse. I can remember constant speeds of 1.2-1.8 megs down and now im doing good just to get 250kb/s. The 4G has fallen off quite a bit too.
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Same here and yes on the lack of sprint customers in some areas. I was on the very poor side of town earlier this week. I was getting 1.3-1.9mb down on 3g lol.
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You're not in 3G. Your in 1x when you get those speeds. The Display will always say 3G even when switch to 1x.
Once rooted, that can be fixed to reflect what you are really on.
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Actually I'm not 1x. I have a few programs to tell me what network I'm on and I'm definetly getting those speeds on EVDO Rev A. You can use Battery Monitor and go to "Tests" and it will tell you what network you are using or you can use Open Signal and go to maps and it will also tell you. I'm definetly getting these speeds on 3G (EVDO Rev A) Not 1x!
Did anyone see this on bgr?
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/17/atts-...ound-to-be-nations-fastest-wireless-services/
They basically say Sprint lags behind everyone in 3G and 4G. I personally get really good 3G speeds (>1mbps), and 4G when I can get it but it is not at my house or work. Just in between. Not wanting to be a whiner. I feel like when Sprint rolls out LTE and Network Vision everywhere we'll be back. I'm rather happy with my wireless data, but it seems we are right now missing out on a lot.
My 3g speeds are just pathetic now. They used to be decent, like in the 800 plus range at work. Now I'm lucky if I pull 100kbps. Plus I always drop in and out and even go to roaming sometimes. Please hurry up the roll out sprint.
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You guys have it made.I cant even browse facebook most days.Thats why I call it
"Sprint - The (i hope you dont need it right) Now Network.
This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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Sprint DOES lag behind on network speeds. Even with the upgrades they've done in my area. Things have improved, but I don't think they're anything to brag about. Even 4G wimax when I have a strong signal is pitiful. There are times I feel 4G wimax is like AT&T or T-Mobile 3G. I don't complain, really, because it's fast enough for me to get by. But... congrats on taking the red pill and waking up
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This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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I kind of feel like this also. In a year or so from now, I expect to have fast LTE and good 3G as a backup. If that is not the case I may go elsewhere. Allthough I hate to lose unlimited data and the other perks of being with sprint.
my 3g and now 4g speeds are pretty pathetic. 3g is 100k most of the time except in the evenings when the towers are so overloaded it drops to 1x or 3g will just timeout on everything and 4g is now down to anywhere between 200k and 500k during the evening and 1.5-2mb during the rest of the time. yet sprint continues to say theres no problems in the area lol.
This is definitely not news. My Sprint service has sucked for a while now.
I'm roaming often, and when I'm not roaming the signal is weak. When I'm lucky enough to get a good signal, 3G is still slower than dial up speeds, and 4G is slower than Verizon's 3G.
Sprint is in real trouble if they don't fix this. The only reason I am still with them is because I really do like my Evo 3D. No other carrier has a comparable phone, and I'm stuck in a contract anyway.
If Verizon got a Samsung Galaxy S 3D, I'd probably break my contract with Sprint to go to Verizon.
Who cares about unlimited data if it's practically unusable in most real world scenarios?
My city isn't even on the list of future LTE markets yet either, so I'm not holding my breath for that. I do have Wimax, but it's pretty crappy.
Sprint has totally fell off. I remember a few years ago when Sprint used to consistently be first or second in these data speed comparisons. Now I would have been shocked if they weren't picked last. And I'm sure most Sprint customers would have also been shocked if Sprint was anything but last in this most recent comparison.
Sprint has got more and more expensive over the years, and the service has got worse and worse. Not a very good outlook for the future at all.
does anybody really think sprint lte will be fast? why do they not assume it will be similar to Wimax speeds?
sprint has 3g but nobody assumes it is as fast as the competition.
rude awakening! you will be unsatisfied with lte speeds and then you will realize that Wimax wasn't the problem, SPRINT is the problem
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This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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as soon as there network is upgraded... they will morph right into verizon's evil twin. price, and everything. just watch.
the only thing keeping them from not charging an ass load of money is that they are being outperformed in network capability in a lot of areas. i am fortunate to live in an area with very good 4g and 3g, so i can't complain. but man i sure feel your guys' pain with the slow network ****. that would be frustrating. it's like paying for wifi and your wifi is never working or never running fast.
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as soon as there network is upgraded... they will morph right into verizon's evil twin. price, and everything. just watch.
the only thing keeping them from not charging an ass load of money is that they are being outperformed in network capability in a lot of areas. i am fortunate to live in an area with very good 4g and 3g, so i can't complain. but man i sure feel your guys' pain with the slow network ****. that would be frustrating. it's like paying for wifi and your wifi is never working or never running fast.
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They already aren't that much cheaper than Verizon anymore. I think last time I checked Sprint was like $5 a month cheaper or something like that. And that wasn't even factoring all the nickel and dime fees Sprint puts on there.
The only thing Sprint has on Verizon these days is unlimited data. The price isn't a big enough difference to really be a factor. And the unlimited data isn't really a factor (to me at least) if it's too slow to use. Sprint's just lucky their network went to **** after they already had me locked into a contract. And even then, I'd have probably left if I could get a phone comparable to the Evo 3D on another network.
Sprint did the same thing that AT&T when they got the iPhone...they didn't anticipate all the traffic on their network thus not preparing for it. I am holding out though. By the end of the year, a lot of us will have a great network to go with the unlimited data. And will be better than all the others.
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The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
Saneless One said:
The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
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Yup true I did the 4g against Verizon test he hit 11mbps I hit 10mbps the only difference was ping his was 58 while mines was 101
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Saneless One said:
The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
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thats true, if i head to the **** side of town i can get good 3g speeds but no 4g lol. or if im around a sprint store they make sure the towers are working perfect. just some observations ive experienced here in san antonio. hell around my parents house half the time i get network busy when trying to make a call. sprint says theres no problems that the network is working as it should haha. they get all pissed when i ask them so for 200+ a month im not supposed to beable to make a phone call and have data speeds that are so ****ty it basically turns my phone into a cool looking paper weight.
I get 900kbps to burst speeds of 1.5mbps most days. Just heard from a couple of sources that I'm getting 4g in a month or two
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Didnt check 3g as Im always on 4g but you guys are right. 3g slowed down for me too. Used to get 1000+kbps now down to 700kpbs.
aznmode said:
Didnt check 3g as Im always on 4g but you guys are right. 3g slowed down for me too. Used to get 1000+kbps now down to 700kpbs.
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Yeah mine slowed down too I used to get 10 kbps now I get 5 kbps.
DarkManX4lf said:
Yeah mine slowed down too I used to get 10 kbps now I get 5 kbps.
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lol, your speeds are like mine
I'm lucky if I get 300kbps in my home area. Luckily, I found out they took down the closest tower in light of the fact of upgrading the others to network vision and haven't yet...so I complained. Until then...it's non-stop bill credits. I'm making them pay for the lack of service. I ask what I get over someone with a $50/mon prepay plan other than the fancy phone I bought...the answer? Nadda.
Pisses me off that we'll have to get new phones again to take advantage of the 4G LTE. Thanks a lot.
so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
500 up
but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
I'm getting about 60 down/up, although I was on my og evo too...
It'll be nice once we get the 3g tweaks in roms
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
JoshHuman said:
For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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Mine is that way as well close to home speeds suck at work they are good lol. either place doesn't matter to much as both have WiFi but it sucks when I'm driving around soon tho soon all will be better....
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Warrior 3000 said:
so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
500 up
but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
five40 said:
If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
woody296 said:
That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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Me either, just common sense.
While a better antenna may help I wouldn't expect to see drastic improvements.
Sprint 3G is just plain crap right now, in most locations anyway.
Surprisingly at work I get over 2megs down sometimes, nowhere else though.
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
indiscriminant said:
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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My point exactly. I got slightly better speeds with the Photon over the Evo 3D but it seems some people are expecting to see dramatic improvements.
indiscriminant said:
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am seeing the same.
Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
othersteve said:
Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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As much as I hate to say this..here in North Houston, the speeds are BAD. I would also be remiss if I didn't mention that I'd never gotten as many dropped or failed 3G connections on my OG Evo as I'm getting with this phone. Could be b/c NV is working itself out..but it's quite frustrating to watch the 3G signal keep disappearing and reappearing.
Because of that, I started fiddling with some old settings and found a way to boost SIGNAL strength but not 3G speeds..see link below and hopefully someone can figure something out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26549367#post26549367
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
Tokynet said:
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
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to be honest rooting your phone has nothing to do with your 3g connection ect... it dont efect it in anyway..
woody296 said:
That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
babbit said:
The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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That is not even remotely true. If you feel the need to argue it, throw written proof in your reply.
This article really helped me understand why I'm seeing such poor LTE speeds in Chicago.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/132847-sprint-4g-lte-launches-promises-3g-speeds-for-its-path-to-domination
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I assume there was supposed to be a link included in your post? I'm curious, with my residence in LA, another major metro area.
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lol that article is a joke, sprint is indeed improving the backhaul on the nv/LTE towers.
michael.stollaire said:
I assume there was supposed to be a link included in your post? I'm curious, with my residence in LA, another major metro area.
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I've passed thru pasadena on the 210 and nv is goin strong in that area. I was getting 3mbps 3g. It's good stuff.
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I thought this was going to another one of those great "class action lawsuit" threads.
Aw man, a service that's been available for two weeks doesn't work perfectly for me, they must be doing something wrong!
Lol. Sprints network is much faster than 6 to 8 mbs dl, it's just what they can guarantee. It's always better to underestimate the network rather than overestimate it.
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Lol. Sprints network is much faster than 6 to 8 mbs dl, it's just what they can guarantee. It's always better to underestimate the network rather than overestimate it.
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I've been using it every day and that's actaually exactly what I get: 6-8MGPS. I hope it improves of course. In fact 6-8 works fine for me, I was just doing some research on why it is so much slower than the RAZORMAx I also have-pulling down 30+ in the same spot.
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SoraX64 said:
Aw man, a service that's been available for two weeks doesn't work perfectly for me, they must be doing something wrong!
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Bro that really wasn't my point whatsoever. But since you brought it up, my thunderbolt pulled down 30+ the day Verizon flipped on LTE so I don't think what your saying really holds up here?
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Worst article ever....completely lacks any knowledge of what's going on in the NV buildout at all....if they did then they wouldn't of wasted their time writting that article bc sprint is upgrading backhaul to microwave or fiber based everywhere during this rollout...soooooo much is being done and changed its insane to think what this article points to...basically the only thing that will be the same when this is done is the freaking tower structure itself!
For those that don't know what's going on nor the details, take some time to go read up on everything and grasp some knowledge and be better educated on it all please....
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sgt. slaughter said:
Worst article ever....completely lacks any knowledge of what's going on in the NV buildout at all....if they did then they wouldn't of wasted their time writting that article bc sprint is upgrading backhaul to microwave or fiber based everywhere during this rollout...soooooo much is being done and changed its insane to think what this article points to...basically the only thing that will be the same when this is done is the freaking tower structure itself!
For those that don't know what's going on nor the details, take some time to go read up on everything and grasp some knowledge and be better educated on it all please....
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Thanks. That helps also. Again, I was just sitting here , with two phones , both connected to their repective LTE networks , and wanted to understand why such a speed discrepency. That was the first article I found. I didn't present it as fact. You sound like you know what your talking about. Can you link me to anything that will help me better understand why I see such speed differences on such similar technology? ( full signal bars on both).
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ipclark1 said:
Thanks. That helps also. Again, I was just sitting here , with two phones , both connected to their repective LTE networks , and wanted to understand why such a speed discrepency. That was the first article I found. I didn't present it as fact. You sound like you know what your talking about. Can you link me to anything that will help me better understand why I see such speed differences on such similar technology? ( full signal bars on both).
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s4gru.com
take a week and read around all over there....
Verizon is using a 10x10MHz LTE network while Sprint's is only 5x5MHz....BUT VZ has a butt load more subscribers on their network than sprint so in the end they need more capacity anyway to start....
Most of the complaints from sprints current build out have been b/c they are announcing markets as live when only roughly 25% towers are live and ready....
Sprint is also building their network out to have a higher average speed as opposed to a higher peak speed,....something I completely agree with tbh, as I would much rather avg 7-10Mbps all the time(with the peak of 20ish) than peak out on a speed test at 30 every now and then....also whats the real honest need for 30Mbps connection on your phone anyway?...if your looking to replace your home Internet connection with this then I can see the need, otherwise I dont get the strong need for 30Mbps speed DL on a phone right now....yeah itll help out with the file downloads some but other than that?.....
sgt. slaughter said:
s4gru.com
take a week and read around all over there....
Verizon is using a 10x10MHz LTE network while Sprint's is only 5x5MHz....BUT VZ has a butt load more subscribers on their network than sprint so in the end they need more capacity anyway to start....
Most of the complaints from sprints current build out have been b/c they are announcing markets as live when only roughly 25% towers are live and ready....
Sprint is also building their network out to have a higher average speed as opposed to a higher peak speed,....something I completely agree with tbh, as I would much rather avg 7-10Mbps all the time(with the peak of 20ish) than peak out on a speed test at 30 every now and then....also whats the real honest need for 30Mbps connection on your phone anyway?...if your looking to replace your home Internet connection with this then I can see the need, otherwise I dont get the strong need for 30Mbps speed DL on a phone right now....yeah itll help out with the file downloads some but other than that?.....
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Completely agree. Id rather have consistency all day as well. And, as I posted earlier, I'm completely fine with the 6-8 I'm getting (who needs more than that on a phone really?) , I just got to wondering why the speeds were so drastically different between the two.
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consistency is key..I'd much rather be blanketed in LTE.that I know what speeds to expect..I'm not dling large files on the go anyways..that's why I have da wifiz..anything above 5 will suit me ..I get 20 mbs DowN at home.with WiFi and hd YouTube (app)still buffers constantly..shoot id be happy with consistent 2-3 mbs 3g
sgt. slaughter said:
s4gru.com
take a week and read around all over there....
Verizon is using a 10x10MHz LTE network while Sprint's is only 5x5MHz....BUT VZ has a butt load more subscribers on their network than sprint so in the end they need more capacity anyway to start....
Most of the complaints from sprints current build out have been b/c they are announcing markets as live when only roughly 25% towers are live and ready....
Sprint is also building their network out to have a higher average speed as opposed to a higher peak speed,....something I completely agree with tbh, as I would much rather avg 7-10Mbps all the time(with the peak of 20ish) than peak out on a speed test at 30 every now and then....also whats the real honest need for 30Mbps connection on your phone anyway?...if your looking to replace your home Internet connection with this then I can see the need, otherwise I dont get the strong need for 30Mbps speed DL on a phone right now....yeah itll help out with the file downloads some but other than that?.....
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Spot on...
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Spot on...
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usually am....
another note though....as noted over there, there are infact places in Chicago that are having sites completed before backhaul is in place, which would explain the results some have experienced....backhaul connections are "supposed" to be in place before sites go live but there are instances this isn't the case evidently....its rare but it has happened....
regardless though, its a temporary situation and easy/quick fix once its ready and the provider has their ish in gear and backhaul in place...
Holy cow there are some defensive people around here....Sprint employees maybe?
xBudahx said:
Holy cow there are some defensive people around here....Sprint employees maybe?
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If you're talking about sarge, I don't think so. He just knows what he's talking about and frowns on poorly researched posts/articles.
fachadick said:
If you're talking about sarge, I don't think so. He just knows what he's talking about and frowns on poorly researched posts/articles.
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THIS! :good:
ipclark1 said:
Thanks. That helps also. Again, I was just sitting here , with two phones , both connected to their repective LTE networks , and wanted to understand why such a speed discrepency. That was the first article I found. I didn't present it as fact. You sound like you know what your talking about. Can you link me to anything that will help me better understand why I see such speed differences on such similar technology? ( full signal bars on both).
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ipclark1 said:
This article really helped me understand why I'm seeing such poor LTE speeds in Chicago.
http://www.extremetech.com/electron...promises-3g-speeds-for-its-path-to-domination
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Where, in Chicago, are you that you're getting any LTE connection at all? Because LTE isn't active in Chicago, yet... lol If you're in a far-south suburb, you may be connecting to Hammond, Indiana's network. Reports in other Chicago areas have been sporadic, at best.