I am interested in picking up this phone when it launches on Verizon, but I have not owned any Galaxy device before so I'm wondering how ROM development works. Is it carrier specific and I can only get ROMs for the device on my carrier? I see that the S3 is launching with some versions having 2gb RAM, etc, so just wondering which ROMs I can use. I see that there are a ton of different versions for the S2 so its along those lines. Thanks for your response.
In common it is not carrier, but network specific. The lte versions use another board with a dual core, weaker gpu and 2 gb ram.
For sure roms for the international version won't work there, except it is multi device and also made for the different board.
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So in the case of the S3, all the LTE versions of the phone will be able to use the same ROMS? It seems this is a new problem "development fragmentation"
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So in the case of the S3, all the LTE versions of the phone will be able to use the same ROMS? It seems this is a new problem "development fragmentation"
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its not new
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With the US version having the same hardware, will we be able to flash the same roms on all the carriers? I know we have to flash our own kernel and modem to work on our network.
Negative. International version has exenos and the north America version has the s4 qualcomm
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I'm only taking about the us version, they are going to release to all the major carriers at the same time.
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But they still got a s4 instead of exenos.
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All the us version have the same hardware. When I had the TMO gallery s II we can use all of att skyrocket roms as well all we needed was to flash tmo kernel
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gsm and cdma is going to be coded in differently to the hardware so that will be a brick and a half flashing them across eachother
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gsm and cdma is going to be coded in differently to the hardware so that will be a brick and a half flashing them across eachother
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That does make sense thanks
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That does make sense thanks
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Yes but it's only a small change and I heard it's an easy one too.
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gsm and cdma is going to be coded in differently to the hardware so that will be a brick and a half flashing them across eachother
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actually i don't think its gonna be that bad...as long a rom doesnt include a radio, and you inject the appropriate kernels... roms will for the most part be interchangeable between the US Variants
Has anyone tried international version of gs 3 on T-Mobile USA? If so did u get hspa + speed?
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Has anyone tried international version of gs 3 on T-Mobile USA? If so did u get hspa + speed?
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Not possible unless you are in a trial area where tmo are testing 1900mhz freq for 3g.
If you aren't there is no way due to hardware.
The intl version doesn't have 1700mhz.
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This was on the same page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713040
What is up with all the Tmo questions and international gs3? just get the Tmo version.. its cheaper and it support your bands..
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What is up with all the Tmo questions and international gs3? just get the Tmo version.. its cheaper and it support your bands..
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Everyone asks this with EVERY international Samsung phone. You would think people would learn sooner or later.
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What is up with all the Tmo questions and international gs3? just get the Tmo version.. its cheaper and it support your bands..
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Because we want the European quadcore. Just because t-mobile thinks U.S consumers are too dumb and too poor to know the difference or afford it, does not mean all of us are.
If the hardware is capable then all you need is a software radio flash.
So far rumors are all the radio ICs are the same.
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Because we want the European quadcore. Just because t-mobile thinks U.S consumers are too dumb and too poor to know the difference or afford it, does not mean all of us are.
If the hardware is capable then all you need is a software radio flash.
So far rumors are all the radio ICs are the same.
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The hardware isn't capable, joshnichols above has the intl version on tmo and gets edge speeds.
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Because we want the European quadcore. Just because t-mobile thinks U.S consumers are too dumb and too poor to know the difference or afford it, does not mean all of us are.
If the hardware is capable then all you need is a software radio flash.
So far rumors are all the radio ICs are the same.
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First, do you think it is some kind of conspiracy to keep you from having a powerful phone? THE SOC DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.
Second, if you think four cores is automatically better than two cores, I suggest you do some research.
You also have no idea what a radio is. There is a software radio, and there is a physical chip. The physical chip in the international S3 DOES NOT SUPPORT THE TMOBILE AWS BANDS, and it never will.
They also cost the same so I have no idea where price comes into this.
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Just order the sim card of Straight Talk website and youll be fine...I get H+ and love my speeds...but drop the contract unless you got LTE but H+ is perfect for me and only at 45 montly....Love it..
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Just order the sim card of Straight Talk website and youll be fine...I get H+ and love my speeds...but drop the contract unless you got LTE but H+ is perfect for me and only at 45 montly....Love it..
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If you do go this route, be wary that Straight Talk offers both AT&T and T-Mobile sim cards. If you get a T-Mobile one you will NOT get HSPA+
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First, do you think it is some kind of conspiracy to keep you from having a powerful phone? THE SOC DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.
Second, if you think four cores is automatically better than two cores, I suggest you do some research.
You also have no idea what a radio is. There is a software radio, and there is a physical chip. The physical chip in the international S3 DOES NOT SUPPORT THE TMOBILE AWS BANDS, and it never will.
They also cost the same so I have no idea where price comes into this.
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That is an uncalled for response. Based on my early reading the international version is using a chip capable of oscillating at the higher frequencies. I was also toold it is the exact same radio IC used in the t-mobile version, just like the skyrocket can be made to work on t-mobile after painfull modification.
For you to automatically assume and publicly state that my knowledge regarding a technology is limited is foul and absurd.
If i was incorrect on the IC specs then by all means feel free to correct me, but please site your source of information and be polite and professional.
Further, isn't the four core version using the same processor class / architecture?
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The dualcore uses a Qualcomm-sourced ARM-A15 while the quadcore uses a Samsung-developed ARM-A9, both with heavy modifications to the standard platform.
So there are actually differences in performance in regard to certain tasks but since games, flash and other ressource-hogs usually only use up to 2 cores there is no real disadvantage in everyday usage even if synthetic benchmarks make you believe otherwise.
Usually -as is and was also true for desktop computers, laptops and servers- it's the storage, RAM, and bandwith that are the bottlenecks.
And at least in terms of Ram the Us-Version got an advantage.
I'm not sure about the SoC but wasn't the whole point of Samsung not integrating the radio in the SoC that they could easily pair it with different radio chips? All it would've taken in that case is a different baseband processor, amplifier and antenna - not a whole new CPU arch which happens to include LTE
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That is an uncalled for response. Based on my early reading the international version is using a chip capable of oscillating at the higher frequencies. I was also toold it is the exact same radio IC used in the t-mobile version, just like the skyrocket can be made to work on t-mobile after painfull modification.
For you to automatically assume and publicly state that my knowledge regarding a technology is limited is foul and absurd.
If i was incorrect on the IC specs then by all means feel free to correct me, but please site your source of information and be polite and professional.
Further, isn't the four core version using the same processor class / architecture?
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Oh so you need sources from me but you don't have to cite your own? I may have been harsh but there was a thread on the same page as this one and the people asking in this thread hadn't even bothered to look for information, but to call you out was wrong.
In any case, the four core version uses a cortex A9 compared to the two core version using a cortex A15. The architecture is ARM, yes but when it comes to the SoC as a whole the Exynos SoC has never supported AWS. I'm not saying it is not possible for it to reach the higher frequencies as you said, but it is not a conspiracy by any means. Both are great SoCs, but the fact is the exynos does not and will not support AWS.
Also the Skyrocket modifications are not painful, as far as I know just like the AT&T Note you just flash a radio to enable the bands. The problem is the exynos SoC does not have the bands necessary.
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Oh so you need sources from me but you don't have to cite your own? I may have been harsh but there was a thread on the same page as this one and the people asking in this thread hadn't even bothered to look for information, but to call you out was wrong.
In any case, the four core version uses a cortex A9 compared to the two core version using a cortex A15. The architecture is ARM, yes but when it comes to the SoC as a whole the Exynos SoC has never supported AWS. I'm not saying it is not possible for it to reach the higher frequencies as you said, but it is not a conspiracy by any means. Both are great SoCs, but the fact is the exynos does not and will not support AWS.
Also the Skyrocket modifications are not painful, as far as I know just like the AT&T Note you just flash a radio to enable the bands. The problem is the exynos SoC does not have the bands necessary.
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I never made an authoritative statement, simply gave my reason for desiring the quad core based on my beliefs. You are correct I should have been more clear, but let us both make peace as we are both members of an educated class.
Thank you for that information, so letme all you guys, what is the superior platform in your opinions.
And do you know if the at&t version will work on t-mobile with a radio flash as it seems to be cheaper.
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I never made an authoritative statement, simply gave my reason for desiring the quad core based on my beliefs. You are correct I should have been more clear, but let us both make peace as we are both members of an educated class.
Thank you for that information, so letme all you guys, what is the superior platform in your opinions.
And do you know if the at&t version will work on t-mobile with a radio flash as it seems to be cheaper.
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Yes, I believe it will. That is how it is for the Skyrocket and Note. However I hear the Note gets AWFUL battery with a T-Mobile radio
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Yes, I believe it will. That is how it is for the Skyrocket and Note. However I hear the Note gets AWFUL battery with a T-Mobile radio
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Good, I suppose the next question would be: what are the diffrences between the at&t version and the t-mobile.
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Good, I suppose the next question would be: what are the diffrences between the at&t version and the t-mobile.
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The logo on the back and a few minor software tweaks.
What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
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What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
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Anything right now about this is just pure speculation.
Right now it is thought they are pretty much identical to Sprint / AT&T models, except for maybe multi-window feature. It seems like there are updates that have been rolled out/will soon be available by carrier and a modified ROM that is supposedly going to be released on XDA that has the feature.
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
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only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
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I thought the leads on the Sprint version were covered up by something.
There are some different pre-installed apps on the various carrier branded versions. Hardware is the same as far as I know, minus possibly the battery. I think carriers may also offer slightly different color variations as well, similar to the SGS3. For the most part though, Samsung has stopped making 400 different configurations of one phone and are making one phone and just changing the software around for the various carriers instead.
I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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There's no need to be curious. It is quad-core.
Hardware will only be different in color/branding, and any changes to the radio chips/firmware so they work with VZWs network. Other than that, all devices should be the same from a hardware standpoint. Software is where most of the differences will be, but most of the stuff should be the same as well, with only a handful of carrier specific apps being different.
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Where?
If it is a rep I wouldn't read too much Ito what they say. Without NFC that means no sbeam which seems unlikely
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Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Are you referring to the website comparison? If so, Verizon already said that was a mistake. I second the sbeam logic.
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Samsung Music Hub is part of the features of Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) Check out Samsung support site for Verizon version. The site doesn't mention NFC, but Samsung's support page for T-Mobile's Note 2 doesn't show NFC either even when that device has NFC. The NFC is part of Samsung Music Hub so you can "beam" music. So I take that Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) as having NFC. And yes, the support site does confirm the S Beam.
agree gaminish
I think it does not matter much
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I think it does not matter much
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While it won't stop me from purchasing the phone, I have used NFC on my GNex like crazy. I love Gwallet and being to bump stuff over to my Nexus 7 and back. So for me, it matters a little bit
NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Lets do it! Roooot!!! All Smiles
The only hardware differences are that there is a cdma radio in the Verizon one
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I'm with you on that. There are alot of great devs out there! I'm sure root will be obtained very soon after release. The bootloader, however, will be a different beast...
I purchased a galaxy s3 I9305 today. I have rooted it and installed supernexus. It all seems to be going well but now when I go into the network settings and choose LTE/WCDMA/GSM, as soon as I exit it reverts back to WCDMA preferred. I am in LTE reception. The only thing I can think of is my sim card. My sim card is almost 7 years old, I had to cut it down to fit the s3. I have read varying things regarding 4g sim cards. Could this be the reason?
Wrong forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1961
You should be on the I9305 thread, not the international version one
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Yeah, you have to get a contract with a provider which supports LTE...
!!!!THE CONTRACT MUST BE SUPPORT LTE TO GET LTE!!!!
Without this you cant get LTE....
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Hey guys, making a transition from the htc sensation forums to here and was amazed to see four different sections dedicated to the S4. I just want to know which is the best place to get a rom for my S 19506 model (the newest one with Cat 4). I'm with Vodafone Au and don't really fall into any of the other categories such as Sprint, T-mob, Verizon and At&t.
Thanks
den10 said:
Hey guys, making a transition from the htc sensation forums to here and was amazed to see four different sections dedicated to the S4. I just want to know which is the best place to get a rom for my S 19506 model (the newest one with Cat 4). I'm with Vodafone Au and don't really fall into any of the other categories such as Sprint, T-mob, Verizon and At&t.
Thanks
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There's actually 5 altogether, one is simply Samsung Galaxy S4 for all of the international (non US) models. you should use that one.
Enjoy your new phone;
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There's actually 5 altogether, one is simply Samsung Galaxy S4 for all of the international (non US) models. you should use that one.
Enjoy your new phone;
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The reason why I didn't go for that is because I don't have an Exynos Octa Core. I have the Snapdragon 800 2.3 GHz. Would this make a difference?
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The reason why I didn't go for that is because I don't have an Exynos Octa Core. I have the Snapdragon 800 2.3 GHz. Would this make a difference?
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The international i9505 is the snapdragon version, so I believe you would head the that subforum.
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The international i9505 is the snapdragon version, so I believe you would head the that subforum.
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I have the i9506 not 505. This one has a different chipset. At this moment I dont think there are any roms for this