AT&T GS3 Dev support vs. Inernational - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'll be getting the AT&T GS3 and was wondering how the dev community will be compared to the international version. Obviously I would expect there to be more support for the international version. However with my AT&T gs2 I was able to run all the ROMs developed for the international gs2 on my AT&T gs2 because they had the same hardware.
This not being the case with the AT&T gs3 having the s4 dualcore w/ lte instead of the exynos quad core I am wondering how much ROM development will take place.

Why would there be any difference? There are no apps that are made specifically for quad core Exynos as far as i'm concerned.

Jonnyredcorn said:
So I'll be getting the AT&T GS3 and was wondering how the dev community will be compared to the international version. Obviously I would expect there to be more support for the international version. However with my AT&T gs2 I was able to run all the ROMs developed for the international gs2 on my AT&T gs2 because they had the same hardware.
This not being the case with the AT&T gs3 having the s4 dualcore w/ lte instead of the exynos quad core I am wondering how much ROM development will take place.
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The Development for the US version should be great i suspect since 5 carriers are all getting the same variation (dual core S4). You should not, how ever, try to use the development from the international version since its running a different SoC (quad-core) and would more than likely brick your phone.
On a side note: Will there be a differnent thread for the US Version/s? cause this could get really cluttered if not

kyan~ said:
Why would there be any difference? There are no apps that are made specifically for quad core Exynos as far as i'm concerned.
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I'm not talking about apps I'm talking about custom ROMs, mods, kernels, and such.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2

blchff04 said:
The Development for the US version should be great i suspect since 5 carriers are all getting the same variation (dual core S4). You should not, how ever, try to use the development from the international version since its running a different SoC (quad-core) and would more than likely brick your phone.
On a side note: Will there be a differnent thread for the US Version/s? cause this could get really cluttered if not
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Ah. Thanks for your response. I was wondering the same question.
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AT&T SGS II Skyrocket or Intl. SGS II?

I travel both in the US and International a lot. I am seriously considering switching to Skyrocket II when I travel to LTE markets. So assuming I can unlock the SkyRocket, it should work internationally by popping in a SIM card. I cannot seem to find the thread, is there something that AT&T does that not make the SkyRocket very well in terms of the speed?
The countries I visit probably will not have LTE for a while, so 3G is probably be the best I can hope for, so will that be an issue? Can I turn of the LTE for example?
I have been using the Atrix successfully, the only issue I have international (with a different SIM card) is that occassionally the carriers have "data" roaming agreements in some cities, for 3G e.g., and I could not get the Atrix to switch to 3G data roaming at all, it would always stick to the primary carrier. I don't know whether I have explained this correctly? Yes, I had to setup the APN's manually, created my own CWM zip which I would flash, hoping Skyrocket will have CWM and since it is already rooted.
LTE band support is pretty fragmented, so the LTE radio likely won't work well if at all on international LTE systems.
Also, if you like custom ROMs and such - the I777 has lots of commonality with the I9100. The I727 (Skyrocket) only has commonality with the T-Mobile T989. By the way - while the I777 had kernel source 1-2 weeks before device release, the Skyrocket has no kernel source available and the T989 sources don't produce a usable kernel on even the device they were intended for.
Entropy512 said:
LTE band support is pretty fragmented, so the LTE radio likely won't work well if at all on international LTE systems.
Also, if you like custom ROMs and such - the I777 has lots of commonality with the I9100. The I727 (Skyrocket) only has commonality with the T-Mobile T989. By the way - while the I777 had kernel source 1-2 weeks before device release, the Skyrocket has no kernel source available and the T989 sources don't produce a usable kernel on even the device they were intended for.
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Entropy,
In your opinion if you live an a current LTE market and could either keep the i777, or get the i727, is it worth switching?
I understand that from a development standpoint the i727 is more of a challenge but if I am looking for a phone that I can get LTE on that operates in a similar manner to the GS2, why would the Skyrocket not be a better option?
Thanks!
Lets not forget the DSP of Qualcomm SoCs are much worse. If you like playing HD content on your Int. SGS2 don't trade it in for a skyrocket.
Here are results of a Sensation, which shares the same DSP:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/07/06/...-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video-playback-shootout/
What is DSP?
SoC = System on a Chip?
TXFLGO05 said:
What is DSP?
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Digital Signal Processor aka Video playback capabilities.
The Exynos is the best on the planet currently- I have 1300 HD movies and it can play the largest ones.
Meanwhile Qualcomm SoCs can only play a few files. The SGS1 is honestly better.
SoC = System on a Chip?
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Yep.
Actually, media playback is usually in the GPU on nearly all modern processors... So it's the GPU that sucks.
So the GPU on the SR is inferior to Gs2?
Entropy any thoughts on what I mentioned, about being in an LTE area?
I don't think we have a way to unlock the phone to use in different carriers yet. All free unlock apps didn't work.
sweetboy02125 said:
I don't think we have a way to unlock the phone to use in different carriers yet. All free unlock apps didn't work.
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If you really need LTE, then the Skyrocket is the clear choice, however if that isn't as important to you, you might try to get your hands on an I777. Its very very similar to the international version but with ATT 3G bands, so you'll get the enhanced development potential with the benefit of high speed data in the US. It is also believed that the I777 has an NFC chip, but we haven't figured out how to enable it as of yet.
jjesusfreak01 said:
If you really need LTE, then the Skyrocket is the clear choice, however if that isn't as important to you, you might try to get your hands on an I777. Its very very similar to the international version but with ATT 3G bands, so you'll get the enhanced development potential with the benefit of high speed data in the US. It is also believed that the I777 has an NFC chip, but we haven't figured out how to enable it as of yet.
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Wrong. We've got NFC working, however only to read tags, we can't do card emulation (Google Wallet) yet from the looks of things.
The international version actually fully supports the AT&T 3G bands, a rare thing for an international device.
The main differences between the I9100 and I777:
FM Radio removed
NFC added
Touchkeys moved from the "International" layout to the more typical for the US "four keys" (menu, home, back, search) layout.
This is why at this point, one can automatically take many I9100 ROMs (likely any XXKI3-based one) and get full functionality except:
1) Home button haptic (requires a ROM-specific mod)
2) NFC (requires a Settings.apk tweak)
Entropy512 said:
LTE band support is pretty fragmented, so the LTE radio likely won't work well if at all on international LTE systems.
Also, if you like custom ROMs and such - the I777 has lots of commonality with the I9100. The I727 (Skyrocket) only has commonality with the T-Mobile T989. By the way - while the I777 had kernel source 1-2 weeks before device release, the Skyrocket has no kernel source available and the T989 sources don't produce a usable kernel on even the device they were intended for.
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Thanks. Yes, I actually want the ability to turn it off i.e LTE. I believe or heard the rumors that the SR stock rom has this disabled. Not sure if it is true or not. Whereas in the i9100 it is available as an option and probably i777 too.
sweetboy02125 said:
I don't think we have a way to unlock the phone to use in different carriers yet. All free unlock apps didn't work.
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Yup, I am expecting AT&T or buy the unlock code, if free ones don't work.
Yes, I am not really interested in multi-media or anything like that so the processor performance is kinda of moot .
My main goal is to get data working during travel, LTE areas and turn off LTE when not available.
TXFLGO05 said:
So the GPU on the SR is inferior to Gs2?
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The Exynos has the fastest Android GPU on the market currently. Anything is inferior (including the Qualcomm Adreno).

[Q] What version of GS II to buy

hello guys how are you hope you be fine .
i am new here i wanna ask about what version of GS II to Buy on the internet i have found 5 versions :T-mobile,[email protected],Skyrocket,LTE HD,International .
at first i noticed there was a difference with processor and protect screen i noticed the T-mobile is the best but i am in Jordan so if i buy it can i use our Sim because we T-mobile not in Jordan and can i buy it from amazon i know i may be silly about question but i don't know .
noor-isbeih said:
hello guys how are you hope you be fine .
i am new here i wanna ask about what version of GS II to Buy on the internet i have found 5 versions :T-mobile,[email protected],Skyrocket,LTE HD,International .
at first i noticed there was a difference with processor and protect screen i noticed the T-mobile is the best but i am in Jordan so if i buy it can i use our Sim because we T-mobile not in Jordan and can i buy it from amazon i know i may be silly about question but i don't know .
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Get the international version i9100 or i9100P (has NFC)
Sorry do you have 4G network in Jordan?
@Nyssa1104 thank you man for reply international version has 1.2GHZ but t-mobile has 1.5GHZ why international are better i dont know if we have 4g but i certain that we have 3g
Definitely get the international version if you're planning on using custom firmware.
There seems to be a lot more development that has happened/is continuing to happen for this variant as opposed to the others. But as Nyssa mentioned, if you can get one (international) with NFC (so you can use it as a virtual wallet/tap to pay, etc) why not
@MistahBungle thanks man i didnt understand you so i will rewrite the question in another type if i bought a T-mobile can i unlock it to apply our Sim (orange,zain,ect) and what is the different between international and T-mobile
I honestly don't know if the T-Mobile version will work in your country or not (I have international version). The T-Mobile has slightly bigger screen, different processor, 4 touch buttons, support for 42mbps data speeds, and supports 1700mhz UTMS...This is all as far as I know. You might want to do a bit more research about the features yourself.
You might want to ask your carrier if this phone will work on their network or not before buying it.
thanks guy for help but i have a little question to people who used the 1.5 and 1.2 processor is there a big different between them
Are you sure you don't want a Galaxy Note? I wouldn't buy SGS2 now, when GN is out.
But if you get one, get the international.
AFAIK it's the same processor, only OCed a bit, what you can do with a custom kernel aswell.
T mobile sgs2 uses a qualcomm snapdragon which is based on the cortex A8 vs the A9 in the exynos and as such is slower clock for clock, so the 1.2ghz exynos is faster and has a better CPU.
I would go for the i9100, it supports GSM (2g) 850/900/1800/1900 and 3G 850/900/1900/2100 so make sure it will work on your network.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
PS, I was bored so I checked the networks in Jordan, and as far as I can tell, they use 900 and 1800 so at least it will work on edge/2g and should work on 3g (old thread where someone said they are using a at&t iPhone 3g there on 3g fine, and the i9100 covers the same 3g bands) but I can't find any hard info so I can't be 100% sure.
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I recommend buying the International i9100 BUT make sure it isn't the i9100G. It's far worse than the original i9100. Aside from that the AT&T SGS2 looks good too
noor-isbeih said:
thanks guy for help but i have a little question to people who used the 1.5 and 1.2 processor is there a big different between them
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No, there isn't. Nothing you're gonna feel in day-to-day usage.

Inconsistent News: Exynos Quad or S4 ?

Hi guys,
Can anyone please clarify this inconsistency of news.
Last month, Samsung tells the media that they have no technological problems in using their Exynos 4 Quad chips in the U.S.A.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/03/129_107204.html
``We don’t think there will be big technology-related problems as we have already tested our telecommunications chips in some smartphones and tablets for consumers in North America. Also, Google’s first reference mobile, the Galaxy Nexus, is using Samsung's telecom chips,’’ said the executive.
However, this news this week contradicts of the last month's news.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/04/129_109578.html
``Samsung plans to release its Galaxy S III smartphone according to different specifications and different markets. For European consumers, it will use 3G and the company’s own quad-core mobile APs, while its own solution that combines LTE, 3G and quad-core mobile APs will be used for the Korean version. But only in the United States, will Samsung use Qualcomm chips,’’ said one Samsung executive asking not to be identified.
It'll probably have Snapdragon S4 in the United States to work with our LTE, because the carriers here are idiotic.
souleater11 said:
Hi guys,
Can anyone please clarify this inconsistency of news.
Last month, Samsung tells the media that they have no technological problems in using their Exynos 4 Quad chips in the U.S.A.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/03/129_107204.html
``We don’t think there will be big technology-related problems as we have already tested our telecommunications chips in some smartphones and tablets for consumers in North America. Also, Google’s first reference mobile, the Galaxy Nexus, is using Samsung's telecom chips,’’ said the executive.
However, this news this week contradicts of the last month's news.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/04/129_109578.html
``Samsung plans to release its Galaxy S III smartphone according to different specifications and different markets. For European consumers, it will use 3G and the company’s own quad-core mobile APs, while its own solution that combines LTE, 3G and quad-core mobile APs will be used for the Korean version. But only in the United States, will Samsung use Qualcomm chips,’’ said one Samsung executive asking not to be identified.
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I think this means that only the LTE version (i9500? i9800?) will use the S4, and the non-LTE version(s) will use an Exynos, similar to the SII/Skyrocket line.
I hoping, anyway...
For the slower people among us, Exynos does not support LTE so any market like The US or Canada that has LTE will be using the S4 Snapdragon chip since Samsung (and Nvidia) for some reason don't have the know-how to integrate LTE. Blaming US carriers is really stupid and ignorant. The dual-core s4 beats the quad-core Tegra 3 in a lot of benchmarks, and has better battery to boot since it is smaller and uses less power, has less cores. The new Exynos is still based on the old A9 core, like the Tegra 3, so expecting it to be leaps and bounds above the Tegra 3, or even significantly better than the S4, which has newer more advanced cores, is also stupid. Being stupid is fine, as long as you aren't directing that stupidity in order to hate something.
katamari201 said:
For the slower people among us, Exynos does not support LTE so any market like The US or Canada that has LTE will be using the S4 Snapdragon chip since Samsung (and Nvidia) for some reason don't have the know-how to integrate LTE. Blaming US carriers is really stupid and ignorant. The dual-core s4 beats the quad-core Tegra 3 in a lot of benchmarks, and has better battery to boot since it is smaller and uses less power, has less cores. The new Exynos is still based on the old A9 core, like the Tegra 3, so expecting it to be leaps and bounds above the Tegra 3, or even significantly better than the S4, which has newer more advanced cores, is also stupid. Being stupid is fine, as long as you aren't directing that stupidity in order to hate something.
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Isn't that completely opposite from some of the news reports?
I'm pretty sure it said exynos with LTE capability will be used in the home market but for the US market, it will lean on Qualcomm once again.
Also Galaxy Tab 7.7 for verizon comes with exynos and LTE capability
ph00ny said:
Isn't that completely opposite from some of the news reports?
I'm pretty sure it said exynos with LTE capability will be used in the home market but for the US market, it will lean on Qualcomm once again.
Also Galaxy Tab 7.7 for verizon comes with exynos and LTE capability
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The LTE that the GS3 supports with its exynos is speculated to only be LTE in countries like Korea, where they use a vastly different spectrum than they do here in the states.
Also: a quick search tells me that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 with LTE is not using a exynos.
degeneration said:
The LTE that the GS3 supports with its exynos is speculated to only be LTE in countries like Korea, where they use a vastly different spectrum than they do here in the states.
Also: a quick search tells me that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 with LTE is not using a exynos.
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lol i have one and it certainly does use Exynos. Initially it was announced with Snapdragon but it was actually released with Exynos
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-review-verizon-wireless-lte/
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-tab-77-lte-for-verizon-review
ph00ny said:
lol i have one and it certainly does use Exynos. Initially it was announced with Snapdragon but it was actually released with Exynos
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-review-verizon-wireless-lte/
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-tab-77-lte-for-verizon-review
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Not sure why that is "lol" worthy, but ok.
Anyway, doesn't really matter since they probably won't use the same processor, so it could still lack the capabilities. Again, from the speculations I have read (which are only that), the new soc will only support LTE like that used in Korea, which isn't similar to anything used in the states.
.Arkham said:
I think this means that only the LTE version (i9500? i9800?) will use the S4, and the non-LTE version(s) will use an Exynos, similar to the SII/Skyrocket line.
I hoping, anyway...
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I think we might be getting both Exynos and the S4 chip in Canada. Like what Bell did with the Galaxy S2, they got the non-LTE version first and got the LTE version after.
ph00ny said:
lol i have one and it certainly does use Exynos. Initially it was announced with Snapdragon but it was actually released with Exynos
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-review-verizon-wireless-lte/
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-tab-77-lte-for-verizon-review
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It uses an Exynos 4 with a separate LTE chip (also made by Qualcomm). The Snapdragon S4 will have embedded LTE support.
The dualcore S4 has higher clock speed, 28nm and is based on the ARM's newer A15. We don't know which is better until there are some reputable benchmark comparison between the two. And this puts a brake on my idea of getting the SIII as soon as its released, because I would like to know how it gauges against S4, performance and battery life, and I don't want to drop $800 on a phone that is not up to par compared to stuff already out (re: Galaxy Nexus).
The s3 is going to be a beast. If it has pentaband like the galaxy nexus. I'll buy besides whats the point of having LTE speeds when data plans are limited. My Galaxy Nexus is plenty fast on tmobile Speeds up to 9mps down and 1.5 mps up. Exynos quad core over snapdragon anyday. I'll be buying the int'l unlocked version.
the Tmo version for AWS 1700 will most likely have the S4 for the qualcommn chip to use the 42Mbps network
the international and USA market will have the regular Exynos version
unless AT&T pulls another goofy release and use S4 also on their LTE version, while releasing a non LTE version on Exynos
like they did when release both SGS2 standard, and SGS2 LTE
katamari201 said:
The new Exynos is still based on the old A9 core, like the Tegra 3, so expecting it to be leaps and bounds above the Tegra 3, or even significantly better than the S4, which has newer more advanced cores, is also stupid.
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With today's announcement of the GSIII, we are starting to see a comparison of performance results between its processor, (presumably) the Exynos Quad 4, and the other big guns which have recently entered the scene, the Snapdragon S4 and Tegra 3. This post is in response to the one quoted above, and relates to the OP in that it is an attempt to clarify the significance of the OP's question. Here are just a few results I've spliced together from a couple of sources.
Quadrant:
1. Samsung GSIII (Exynos Quad 4) @ 5642
2. HTC One XL (S4) @ 4952
3. HTC One X (Tegra 3) @ 4842
SunSpider (lower is better)
1. GSIII @ 1479
2. One XL @ 1608
3. One X @ 1757
BrowserMark
1. GSIII @ 169811
2. One X @ 110038
3. One XL @ 102640
Of course, there are many more benchmarks that are yet to be tried. And, at any rate, nearly all bench apps are notorious for inconsistency, so time will make all this clearer. I expect to see the S4 slaughter the Exynos Quad 4 in something like Linpack, which is simply CPU data I/O, whereas Samsung's Mali-400 GPU will save their reputation whenever graphics are concerned. Regardless of such speculation, the little data that we currently have suggests that the Exynos Quad 4 is not your average A9 chip, and it may well give the earliest released A15 dual-cores a run for their money. Is it really stupid to hope that a highly optimized quad-core A9, which is based on 32nm technology (instead of the normal A9 45nm), and which supports 128-bit instruction (just like the S4), could out-perform a first-release dual-core A15? Well, I suppose I'm just one of those stupid people.
Sites referenced:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_flexes_muscles_on_benchmarks-news-4201.php
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/4
eksasol said:
It uses an Exynos 4 with a separate LTE chip (also made by Qualcomm). The Snapdragon S4 will have embedded LTE support.
The dualcore S4 has higher clock speed, 28nm and is based on the ARM's newer A15. We don't know which is better until there are some reputable benchmark comparison between the two. And this puts a brake on my idea of getting the SIII as soon as its released, because I would like to know how it gauges against S4, performance and battery life, and I don't want to drop $800 on a phone that is not up to par compared to stuff already out (re: Galaxy Nexus).
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totally agree with you. Only reason to ditch my GS2 for this would be if improvement is not incremental but leap forward.
I predict T-Mo and AT&T version will use S4 because T-Mo requires 42mbps HSPA radio that Samsung can't produce and AT&T wants single radio fall back (LTE to HSPA) of Qualcomm chip.
Since Verizon and Sprint require two separate radio interfaces anyway (CMDA for voice and LTE for data), Exynos 4 will be used for these two variants.
AtlanM87 said:
totally agree with you. Only reason to ditch my GS2 for this would be if improvement is not incremental but leap forward.
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I'm confused how people keep posting stuff like this. Whatever model number is stamped on the internal parts, it obviously crushes the GS2 in benchmarks. There's a thread in this forum with over 30 improvements over it.
How that's even a serious question at this point baffles me.
You can say that you're happy with what you have, and that's a plenty valid opinion. Saying it's not a leap in sheer power is being willfully ignorant of facts.
SG3 on Sprint
foxbat121 said:
I predict T-Mo and AT&T version will use S4 because T-Mo requires 42mbps HSPA radio that Samsung can't produce and AT&T wants single radio fall back (LTE to HSPA) of Qualcomm chip.
Since Verizon and Sprint require two separate radio interfaces anyway (CMDA for voice and LTE for data), Exynos 4 will be used for these two variants.
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I am interested to see what will happen if the SG3 releases on sprint. I know that sprint is doing a network makeover (Network Vision I think it is called). I hear that Samsung is one of the major suppliers for the new 4G LTE equipment that sprint is using to update their network infrastructure. If that is true, then we could easily see a SG3 with they exynos 4 running on sprint. Why would Samsung make equipment for the carriers in the united states and not allow its mobile devices to connect to their equipment?
Another interesting point, LTE release 10 is designed to carry voice as well as data. Sprint Network Vision states that it will be one of the first to have a feature called "HD Voice". I assume that this will be provided by VoLTE(Voice over LTE) This could help sprint (and verizon I guess) get rid of the extra chips in the phones for mulitple band support.
Add all this on top of the plan for sprint to axe its iDEN network (800MHz band) and allocate it to LTE. That should provide way better signal in houses. It sucks to be on sprint now but I think it is going to get really good soon.
I know there is a lot of speculation here but if anyone wants to hear some of the sources where I have read this stuff then let me know and I will post it.
Nick0703 said:
I think we might be getting both Exynos and the S4 chip in Canada. Like what Bell did with the Galaxy S2, they got the non-LTE version first and got the LTE version after.
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I dissagree, I see the announcement on the bell website and it shows the sgs3 with no specs but shows to be HD & LTE so im sure they will do like the note. I had some questions before getting the canadian note with snapdragon 3 over the exynos anf i learned that to my user experience i never encounter anything that made my note lag or cannot do smoothly so i even if worst case senario we get snapdragon 4 it will still be better than the note making me real happy with it.
Btw ill never trade my note for any other phone than the note 2 im just shopping for my girlfriend phone
Send from the Noteorious BIG 5.3" Bell Canada
lurchbyrep said:
With today's announcement of the GSIII, we are starting to see a comparison of performance results between its processor, (presumably) the Exynos Quad 4, and the other big guns which have recently entered the scene, the Snapdragon S4 and Tegra 3. This post is in response to the one quoted above, and relates to the OP in that it is an attempt to clarify the significance of the OP's question. Here are just a few results I've spliced together from a couple of sources.
Quadrant:
1. Samsung GSIII (Exynos Quad 4) @ 5642
2. HTC One XL (S4) @ 4952
3. HTC One X (Tegra 3) @ 4842
SunSpider (lower is better)
1. GSIII @ 1479
2. One XL @ 1608
3. One X @ 1757
BrowserMark
1. GSIII @ 169811
2. One X @ 110038
3. One XL @ 102640
Of course, there are many more benchmarks that are yet to be tried. And, at any rate, nearly all bench apps are notorious for inconsistency, so time will make all this clearer. I expect to see the S4 slaughter the Exynos Quad 4 in something like Linpack, which is simply CPU data I/O, whereas Samsung's Mali-400 GPU will save their reputation whenever graphics are concerned. Regardless of such speculation, the little data that we currently have suggests that the Exynos Quad 4 is not your average A9 chip, and it may well give the earliest released A15 dual-cores a run for their money. Is it really stupid to hope that a highly optimized quad-core A9, which is based on 32nm technology (instead of the normal A9 45nm), and which supports 128-bit instruction (just like the S4), could out-perform a first-release dual-core A15? Well, I suppose I'm just one of those stupid people.
Sites referenced:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_flexes_muscles_on_benchmarks-news-4201.php
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/4
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Good links,...but One X is running 4.0.3 while Samsung 4.0.4 which is speedier imo so isnt a fair comparison between the two buddy. Wait till both run same version, but ya Samsung optimized the browser very well, so expect Galaxy S3 to continue outperform HTC in browsermark
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For the slower people among us, Exynos does not support LTE so any market like The US or Canada that has LTE will be using the S4 Snapdragon chip since Samsung (and Nvidia) for some reason don't have the know-how to integrate LTE. Blaming US carriers is really stupid and ignorant. The dual-core s4 beats the quad-core Tegra 3 in a lot of benchmarks, and has better battery to boot since it is smaller and uses less power, has less cores. The new Exynos is still based on the old A9 core, like the Tegra 3, so expecting it to be leaps and bounds above the Tegra 3, or even significantly better than the S4, which has newer more advanced cores, is also stupid. Being stupid is fine, as long as you aren't directing that stupidity in order to hate something.
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I used a tegra 3 hox and compared it to the s4 benchmarks being posted and it beat them quite easily so I disagree with your s4 is better than tegra 3
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Development difference International vs North American variants?

I just want to know how different the development will be for the international version compared to either the Canadian/US version (which presumably will be the same with S4 & 2GB RAM). People are posting that Samsung will give the international version updates earlier but is it that much sooner than other variants (or do the NA variants not get updates at all)?
I'm not sure which to order since I'm from the US (I have no use for LTE but price and ease of warranty are factors).
This is my problem too, which to get?. I'd love to have more development options, but at the same time I want faster speeds.
At a glance it appears that the internation one is going to be HSPA+ 21Mbit/s connections. But the LTE North American models will have LTE support and if LTE isn't avalible in your area then it defaults down to DC-HSPA 42Mbit/s not to mention the 2GBs of ram.
This is a hard choice :/
Both will have great development. Look at the intl note and the north america note for example
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I also don't know which version to choose... Less pricy 2gb dual core with LTE or international with more support quadcore better GPU but less ram and no LTE...
I wanna know which one is better for multitasking, also if the battery life is better on the dual core or not and if 2gb vs 1gb really matters...
Id choose the usa version but i just hate that awful carrier logo on the front of the phone, it ruins all the beauty!
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Id choose the usa version but i just hate that awful carrier logo on the front of the phone, it ruins all the beauty!
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Thankfully my carrier doesn't brand there model number on the phone itself. I think they do this because they sell there phones in an unbranded/unlock versions to other non-major tel companys in Canada (don't know if this holds true for the SGS3 when it comes out though)
I've made my decision I want more ram and faster connection speeds through LTE and DC-HSPA. So now I'm just waiting for the thing to release lol. Also waiting to hear back from them if i can get it cheaper as an upgrade, otherwise their full price will be $599
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Don't mean to drag this back up, but I was going to create a new post until I found this one.
I am in the same predicament. I'm wondering if I should get the Intl or US model.
I'm on T-Mobile, and they will be refarming their PCS band for HSPA+. I wonder if it's a safe bet to get the Intl model and rely only on a single 1900 MHz band for data, or go with the carrier's model and enjoy the potential of 2 HSPA+ bands (1700/1900)...
Plus, there's the development support issue as well. I've enjoyed my Intl SGS2 when I was on AT&T because of all the developer support - love the mods and the ROMs. Then I moved to a GNex when I went to TMobile.
My ideal ROM situation: CM9 ROM, stock Android Experience ROM, and modified Samsung ROM (themed to look/feel like ICS so I can keep the camera app while enjoying the stability and the highly optimized framework). I love using Titanium Backup and ROM Manager to basically change ROMs without loosing much data whenever I'm in a different mood.
I'd like to eventually have 1 SGS3, 1 iPhone (the next model, esp when TMobile's PCS band gets refarmed), and I'll keep my GNex for shiz and giggles.
Just not sure which to get - both seem to have their pros and cons.

SIII only Dual Core??

So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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The US version has qualcomm chip which supports LTE, the Exynos does not... INTL version has 1GB RAM, and qualcomm has 2GB RAM, yes you can use an unlocked INTL I9300 on T-Mobile but will not get LTE and have less RAM... The trade-offs are up to you...
svavrek said:
So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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Because the Exynos processor doesn't work with T-Mobile's non-standard 42Mbps on AWS (1700 MHz) and it also doesn't work with the LTE. You can use the international one on T-Mobile but you'll only get EDGE data. If you use it on AT&T though you'll get up to HSPA+ because most of Europe uses the same bands as AT&T (850/1900 MHz). If you want to use international phones, T-Mobile is the worst carrier to be on in terms of data speeds, but they're moving to the same frequency as AT&T, so eventually you'll be able to use it on T-Mobile with up to 21 Mbps.
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The qualcomm chip supports LTE, the Exynos does not... INTL version has 1GB RAM, and qualcomm has 2GB RAM, yes you can use an unlocked INTL I9300 on T-Mobile but will not get LTE and have less RAM... The trade-offs are up to you...
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To be fair, the i9300 is a lot faster than the US models. But to be honest, unless you game, you won't notice a different. The 2GB of RAM was a "whoops, my bad" from Samsung for having to switch processors; RAM does not affect performance unless you have too little RAM. Even the Nexus 7 comes with 1GB of RAM. But anyways, it depends how you use your phone. The other big thing is that the US models have the "bug" or "feature" where you might lose your IMEI when flashing anything to the phone, with no chance (so far) to get it back, meaning you'd have to do a warranty swap to get a working phone. The i9300 also gets major updates first. Development, I would say, is about the same for both though.
svavrek said:
So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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I'll try to reply in a nice way before you get flamed by someone. The quad core version (International) does not support LTE, hence we have the dual core setup which does support LTE. You can use an international device on ATT and T Mobile minus LTE. If I recall correctly you may not even get HSPA + either but I don't know if that is true or not.
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Because the Exynos processor doesn't work with T-Mobile's non-standard 42Mbps on AWS (1700 MHz) and it also doesn't work with the LTE. You can use the international one on T-Mobile but you'll only get EDGE data. If you use it on AT&T though you'll get up to HSPA+ because most of Europe uses the same bands as AT&T (850/1900 MHz). If you want to use international phones, T-Mobile is the worst carrier to be on in terms of data speeds, but they're moving to the same frequency as AT&T, so eventually you'll be able to use it on T-Mobile with up to 21 Mbps.
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Damn you beat me to it.
Damn we be on this one... LOL
Slight correction. There is a quad-core Exynos that supports LTE. Korea got it, but it wasn't completed by the time the US variants were in full production.
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Slight correction. There is a quad-core Exynos that supports LTE. Korea got it, but it wasn't completed by the time the US variants were in full production.
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Because the LTE radio is separate from the Exynos SoC. The Exynos itself does not support LTE. Think HTC Thunderbolt. What this results in is horrible battery life. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 did the same thing with the Exynos dual-core, adding a separate LTE radio with the Exynos processor. If you need LTE, you're better off with the Snapdragon S4 (which is no slouch btw). We're at a cell phone generation where all CPU's perform pretty much the same (current gen meaning S4 - Tegra 3 - Exynos Quad) until you really push them. So again, unless you're benchmarking or heavily gaming, you won't notice a difference.
Also, yes you'll get HSPA+ on AT&T (I'm using my i9300 on Straight Talk), but only EDGE on T-Mobile.
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The other big thing is that the US models have the "bug" or "feature" where you might lose your IMEI when flashing anything to the phone, with no chance (so far) to get it back, meaning you'd have to do a warranty swap to get a working phone.
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I'm starting to think even Samsung doesn't have a clue what's really going on with that... or a very ingenius way to sell some phones at full price... Hasn't deterred me any...
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I'm starting to think even Samsung doesn't have a clue what's really going on with that... or a very ingenius way to sell some phones at full price... Hasn't deterred me any...
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Samsung supports developers. They gave the entire CyanogenMod team Galaxy S II's when they first came out. They hired Steve Kondik (Cyanogen), and they worked with XDA devs to try and fix the ICS recovery perma-brick issue on the SII, Note, and other phones. It's probably the carriers that messed with the software without knowing what they were doing.
if you haven't heard already from previous posts the USA s3 supports lte and the UK one doesn't and we also have 2gb of ram they do not but they have a quad core chip to even it out and to be fair.
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