Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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Biporch said:
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
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Oh yeah! Now that you mention it, i remember reading about Motoblur.
Cryosx said:
Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
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Are these custom Roms or just the normal Android OS without the company's additions to it? I have gingerbread atm (I'd rather wait for ICS until the official release from AT&T)
hobbs said:
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
ScelestusAnimus said:
I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
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You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
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You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
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Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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As mattdm said, all Android builds require a launcher. Otherwise you'd have no usable GUI. When you were switching back and forth between GO and TouchWiz were you using a home/launcher switcher, or were you just using the default ui to choose one each time you went to your home screen?
You can have several launchers installed and use a switcher to make one "stick" until you decide you want a different look/feel.
Some prefer GO or LauncherPro. I use ADW EX and TouchWiz. ADW and LauncherPro are very configurable. VERY. Both have their ardent fans. I've not used GO.
PS: You do NOT want the ability to change launchers disabled. ;-)
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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Uhh... touchwiz lets you resize certain widgets... (UI elements) pretty sure go launcher and adw ex do too...
Biporch said:
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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I believe it comes with both apex and nova. They are fairly similar but each have a few unique features.
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0p3nsrc said:
CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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Tasks came with trebuchet. I switched to nova and I'm fairly sure that apex came on it too.
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ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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First off, Welcome to Samsung!
A little background.
AOSP = Android Open Source Program. Meaning, a open source of code editable by anyone.
Touchwiz/Motoblur/Sense = Not AOSP, they were written as a launcher/GUI for each phone by their developer (Motorola/Samsung/HTC). On top of that, these GUI/Overlays have their fingers into everything on a phone, this is why updates take so long. Google creates a new version of Android and passes it to the phone manufacturer, they in turn need to take that new version and paste their GUI/Overlay on top of it, this takes time and money. Further, once the phone manufacturer finishes updating, they need to give the software to the vendor (VZW/AT&T etc) who add more bloat/custom crap to the software.
Custom ROM's, are and are not AOSP, Some are pure AOSP like AOKP or CM (Cyanogenmod), they are written by groups of people, all of whom work in concert to bring you the ROM. Then there are custom ROM's that are not in the realm of AOSP. For example, I use Phone Bricker, written by LilChris here on XDA. This ROM is not really Open Source as it's written by one person, the author may give out the source, I don't know.
So what would your phone look like w/o Touchwiz? CM9/AOKP is as close as you'll get. Those ROMs use the closest to stock version of Android.
To confuse matters even more, there are Launchers, Go Launcher/Apex etc. They operate as yet another GUI on top of a GUI, inside a ROM. So you could have a stock, unrooted Galaxy S2, with Touchwiz and Go Launcher, and customize it to make it look like you want it too. Or, you could root your phone, Update to CM9 (running Ice Cream Sandwich btw), and use the launcher that they have there, or change that to Go Launcher.
The options are endless, read read read. I am new to Samsung, I came from Motorola where things are done quite a bit differently. I can tell you this though, you are infinitely better off with a Samsung phone than a Motorola Phone. Not only does Motoblur blow chunks, but Motorola is a terrible company as far as software updates go. Toss in locked bootloaders... anyway, I hope the above answered your question.
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Hey,
I have a friend with a S2 from Orange Spain that has now received the official ICS update. Apparently, the only difference from stock is the splash screen.
I have a Galaxy Nexus and I wanted to help my friend get rid of all unwanted Touchwiz customizations without rooting his phone.
I couldn't find a thread explaining what to remove, what to replace and what to keep.
Is there a guide to un-touchwiz without flashing a new rom?
Cheers,
How are you going to remove stuff on an unrooted phone ???????
jje
^^ +1 to this.
Yup, if you just want to replace the homescreen and launcher, then you can just install a third party launcher, but to remove/replace system apps, you would need root.
Thanks!
Is there are stock ICS launcher or just 3rd party lookalike launchers?
Just search the "play store" for launchers.
Apex or Nova as an example of ICS launchers
Or maybe have a look at Go Launcher, probably has more features than most
Hi guys, i want to buy a Samsung Galasy S3 but sincerly i don't like so much the Touchwiz GUI so i wonder if someone can say me if there is a way in order to delete Touchwiz with a Custom Rom or other way... I also wonder if someone can say me if the timestamp message is time of Message Sent or Message recive i explain well because my english isn't perfet (i'm italian) if i have phone power off and someone send me a message at 6:00pm, when i puwer on phone at 8:00pm and i read message, will i see the 6:00 pm in timestamp or 8:00pm ???
I hope you can forgive me for my bad english, thanks guys you're all a great people, i have only to learn from you
I ASK ADMIN IF GENTLY THEY CAN MOVE THIS THREAD, PLEASE.
Why do XDA even bother on creating a Q&A subsection in the forums...
sorry i didn't see i was in General, now i want to move post in right session or repost in correct session, but i don't find the way for delete this, how can i? sorry again.
Now to answer your question. There are many launchers you can use if you don't like touchwiz. Just install and when you hit the home button it will ask you which launcher you want to use. Check the block to make it your default and then choose the launcher you want.
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Just Flash It !!!
Thanks for the answere, i know this way, but if i change launcher GUI keep the touchwiz or touchwiz is only the Launcher? i ask this because i think Touchwiz by samsung is inside the system and it take a lot of space and i don't think a launcher take so much space. maybe in a custom rom we can recover the space used by touchwiz and use if for other thing, maybe a smoother and lighter rom for SGS3 will improve performance. How about SMS timestamp?
You probably are referring to the touchwiz launcher. You can replace the launcher with apex or nova which are "stock vanilla ICS" launchers that include options to customize it. Apex is a better choice if you want a free launcher with many features...but if you want to buy nova prime I would recommend that.
The new touchwiz has some nice features, and replacing the launcher won't get rid of them.
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laastan Regalia,
I've got a Nexus one and i tried to install ICS in order to try some launcher, i agree with you as Nova is the best, i will buy it but before i want to try use the Touchwiz, maybe i'll like ite... it isn't very bad as the Gingerbread stock launcher XD
I'm hoping a developer can answer my question.
I'm running CM 10.1 Nightly (The latest one 31st Jan) on my SIII and it's superb.
I've started flashing the CM 10.1 ever since the first Nightly came out and have reverted back to Samsung's TouchWiz for the sake of some cool features such as the "Voice Enabled music player" and the "motion settings".
Is there any way I can add those functions to the CM 10.1 I'm running?
Thanks in advance.
well, you can't...
it needs to be ported, what's probably will not happen
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eytan123 said:
well, you can't...
it needs to be ported, what's probably will not happen
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I see...but I really loved those features on my Samsung. That's the only reason I ever went back to it.
Ahh well...I still love the CM look far better than the ****ty TouchWiz.
You can always use a 3rd party launcher or use a theme like JB Domination
Yeah but a 3rd party launcher wouldn't give him the motion settings etc.
It'll give him inly the looks that he just stated he dislikes...
he's talking about a 3rd party launcher in a Sammy-based ROM to give him an AOSP feel, alongside with the Domination theme
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Glebun said:
he's talking about a 3rd party launcher in a Sammy-based ROM to give him an AOSP feel, alongside with the Domination theme
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Again, all I was asking for is the motion functions that are found with the stock TouchWiz and if there's a way to flash them on by keeping the CM 10.1.
I'm not talking about looks, nor themes.
All I want are the functionality that includes raising phone up to call and what not.
You were given the answer to that question. People are just trying yo help you. The only way to have that functionality is to flash a Sammy-based ROM. If you don't like TouchWiz, you can flash Domination theme and use a custom launcher, which will give you the complete AOSP feel
I tried
Glebun said:
You were given the answer to that question. People are just trying yo help you. The only way to have that functionality is to flash a Sammy-based ROM. If you don't like TouchWiz, you can flash Domination theme and use a custom launcher, which will give you the complete AOSP feel
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I tried that. The second I use a launcher it defies the point of having the "buttery" smoothness of either the stock TouchWiz or CM Rom.
Nova launcher + widget locker just made my device slow, so thanks anyway for all your help guys .
I'd like to ask GT-P7500 developers if there are any chance to have MagazinUX interface like in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782580 ?
grej said:
I'd like to ask GT-P7500 developers if there are any chance to have MagazinUX interface like in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782580 ?
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Not from me. Porting stock samsung apps to aosp roms is not easy. Samsung customizes android with mountains and mountains and even more mountains of additions. For better or for worse is up for debate but I'd argue for worse :cyclops: The name "Lagwiz" doesn't come from nowhere :cyclops:
The samsung apps then reference these additions. Someone would need to find those additions, extract them, and stuff them in the samsung app apk. Basically, the samsung apps apk are not standalone installers. Someone would need to put the effort to add the missing extras to these apks. Now I haven't seen the magazine ux, but if you want a more 4.0 ics launcher without the ugly dock at the bottom try nova launcher or adw.
Samsung has discontinued this tablet after only 1 update from honeycomb to ics. Talk about poor 1st party support. Bulls**t that "there's too little ram" or "the hardware's not capable". KitKat runs smoothly and can actually use live wallpapers. I've never been able to use live wallpaper without severe lag even back in honeycomb.
And lastly, this is a question thread not a development thread.