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i was at BestBuy last week, and was about to get the AT&T Galaxy S II, unfortunately i haven't established my own credit, so i have to deposit $500, on top of the $199 [phone price] before they sell me the phone. that's around $750 with the activation fee and taxes.
that made me think, should i just get the International Version from Amazon, since they're only selling it for $550? then just start an account with AT&T? or with T-Mobile, becuase i heard T-Mobile won't ask for a deposit? will it be worth it? also, regarding data speeds, will the international version be slower than AT&T's Galaxy S II? or will it be just the same?
i really like the International Version, because of the fact that it's the slimmest versus the other 3 US variants, and from the 3, i like the AT&T's version better than T-Mobile's and Sprint's, just because i don't like how the edges are rounded.
also, i need your reason why the version of your choice is better.
any comments, suggestions or tips will be appreciated.
thank you
International version if you don't need warranty.
I think either way you might need to do a deposit if you're signing up with AT&T though.
hmm, so the $500 deposit is for the contract? and not for the phone?? i thought the idea was, deposit $500, so you don't run away with a $700 worth of phone.. -_-
the deposit is not for the phone, its for the line.
It's for the contract/line. You pay $199.99 for the phone + $500 deposit for the contract/line.
Yeah unfortunately its very easy to rack up crazy charges on your bill so if you have no credit to show you're credit worthy, you get hit. It sucks but it could be $1k...
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ahhh. i get it now. ok, so how 'bout which is better? AT&T or the International Version? will data speeds differ from each other?
IF you have an options, which I would assume, since you are asking, then definitely get the international. There are tiny physical differences, and some firmware. Some cases will fir both models, but not all. Some software will support both, but not all. In this case, if you want the greatest flexibility in software and accessories, go with international, as it's had a BIG head start.
sweetrobot said:
IF you have an options, which I would assume, since you are asking, then definitely get the international. There are tiny physical differences, and some firmware. Some cases will fir both models, but not all. Some software will support both, but not all. In this case, if you want the greatest flexibility in software and accessories, go with international, as it's had a BIG head start.
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thank you for your suggestion. now for the carrier? should i go for AT&T or T-Mobile? (since i heard they don't require the $500 deposit unlike AT&T) and also, is the data speed faster on the AT&T's GSII versus the International??
viciouspinoy said:
thank you for your suggestion. now for the carrier? should i go for AT&T or T-Mobile? (since i heard they don't require the $500 deposit unlike AT&T) and also, is the data speed faster on the AT&T's GSII versus the International??
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If your'e going with T-Mobile, you will have to buy T-Mobile's version of Samsung Galaxy S II, otherwise you will have no "3G/4G" data. You will only get EDGE data speed if you're using International or AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II.
The $500 is for contracts. If you walk into an att store with your own phone they won't ask for any money down. The only reason for contracts is to make sure they make back the discounts they give on phones. A contract is not needed if you have your own phone. Even if you're a terrible customer they only have to worry about a month. And how they schedule payments is your bill 'pays' for the next month. Even though your bill is based off your usage for that last month, you in reality are paying for the next month. That's why when you're late on a payment they don't immediately kill your line, cause they're not out money yet.
As far as what carrier? I'd go with att just for the chance tmobile deal goes through quicker than expected.
Having a phone through a carrier that is getting bought out = lots of frustration.
Having personally dealt with that situation twice, I can confidently say it's not worth it.
But since you wouldn't be on contract you could just as easily jump from tmobile to att (would be frustrating if you couldn't take your number with you, but our google overlords make that situation much better if you get a google number from them, no need to tell anyone your number even changed)
Obviously these are points with 'price being beside the point.'
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If you decide to get an international version, I have one for sale. I'll do $500 shipped. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296689
@runtohell121 Wow for making my long post pointless. Too bad I didn't see your post till after I had already sent mine.
You're definitely right.
Tmobile uses both 1700 and 2100. One for upstream and one for downstream.
Unfortunately the galaxy s ii uses 850/900/1800/1900 bands for gsm.
Looks like att is the best choice, otherwise it will only be edge speeds.
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The $500 is for contracts. If you walk into an att store with your own phone they won't ask for any money down. The only reason for contracts is to make sure they make back the discounts they give on phones. A contract is not needed if you have your own phone. Even if you're a terrible customer they only have to worry about a month. And how they schedule payments is your bill 'pays' for the next month. Even though your bill is based off your usage for that last month, you in reality are paying for the next month. That's why when you're late on a payment they don't immediately kill your line, cause they're not out money yet.
As far as what carrier? I'd go with att just for the chance tmobile deal goes through quicker than expected.
Having a phone through a carrier that is getting bought out = lots of frustration.
Having personally dealt with that situation twice, I can confidently say it's not worth it.
But since you wouldn't be on contract you could just as easily jump from tmobile to att (would be frustrating if you couldn't take your number with you, but our google overlords make that situation much better if you get a google number from them, no need to tell anyone your number even changed)
Obviously these are points with 'price being beside the point.'
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ok, so just for clarification, if i walk in to an AT&T STORE with the INTERNATIONAL Galaxy S II on hand, i won't have to pay $500 for the deposit? With that in mind, then it would be cheaper for me right? Because i'm a college student with no credit. because with what you said, i think i will definitely get the international version.
Forget T-Mobile, since i work in Irvine, Ca., most of my co workers that are with AT&T, have better coverage than Verizon and T-Mobile. My only question now is if i get the International Galaxy S II, and start a plan with AT&T, will it run the same data speeds as with AT&T's Galaxy S II?
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If you decide to get an international version, I have one for sale. I'll do $500 shipped. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296689
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for some reason, i couldn't see your post, it says, its because im a new member. anyway, post the details here, or PM it to me. is it brand new? and where are you from? send pictures.
viciouspinoy said:
ok, so just for clarification, if i walk in to an AT&T STORE with the INTERNATIONAL Galaxy S II on hand, i won't have to pay $500 for the deposit? With that in mind, then it would be cheaper for me right? Because i'm a college student with no credit. because with what you said, i think i will definitely get the international version.
Forget T-Mobile, since i work in Irvine, Ca., most of my co workers that are with AT&T, have better coverage than Verizon and T-Mobile. My only question now is if i get the International Galaxy S II, will it run the same data speeds as with the AT&T Version?
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I'm not too sure about the contract question, but I still think you would have to pay a deposit IF you sign a contract with AT&T. I personally don't know that you're allow to get service with AT&T without a contract or I never done it before so.. yea.. I don't know.. but my guess is that if you go into an AT&T store with your international SGSII, they will say it won't work or something LOL.
As for the SGSII data speed question, it will be the same as AT&T version as long as you have the correct data settings.
thanks! but i need this clarified though. ive been watching videos of the international galaxy s ii.. i'm in love with it.
after googling and looking at at&t forum.. seems like you can do month to month with AT&T on an unlocked phone as long as it works. Just that I'm not too sure on what data package you would need.
Ok, so what does the "correct data settings" that you were saying mean? Hmm, data package? I might want a 2GB data plan. Is that what you were asking?
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You will most likely have to enter the data settings to enable the 3G for the SGSII International to work on AT&T. By data pack, I mean you might be able to get the "dumbphone" unlimited since it's an unlocked phone..
Let me first state my situation.
I am in a contract with unlimited data on Verizon with my galaxy nexus.
Despite not wanting to have a contract with two providers, I wanted the galaxy note so badly, I got the note on AT&T with a so so contract (3 gb data, unlimited texting, 450 minutes).
I live in Seattle so there is no LTE here.
I am worried that a superior phone will come out soon (SG III) or perhaps a quad core note and then I will be stuck in two contracts without many options.
So I can either take back my note and get the AT&T version and go with Straightsim and save a good chunk of money ($100/month on AT&T vs $45/month on Straighttalk). In Seattle, straight talk uses AT&T's network so I think my service will be about the same except I will have unlimited data/minutes/texting.
Or, I can take back my Note and get the international version and put it on Straighttalk.
Or, I can stay put.
If I buy a note off contract, I will have the option to get the Samsung Galaxy S III or Note II when it comes out (on Verizon or AT&T)...
Kind of think that getting into a contract for a phone without LTE speeds seems a bit absurd.
Also, the international version has more developers (for now) and a better cpu.
What do you guys think? If I wasn't in another contract on Verizon, I'd just stay put and hope that LTE comes to Seattle this summer.
I read that the Note will come out on VZW if you can wait.
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Tikerz said:
I read that the Note will come out on VZW if you can wait.
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I thought about that. One thing I forgot to mention is that for some reason at the office, my galaxy nexus (and before that, Galaxy S) get's terrible reception unless I am near a window.
AT&T customers at work get reception even in conference rooms in the middle of the building, so I was hoping that my AT&T note would as well (which it does).
I just don't like being cut off for 8 hours a day from calls and texts.
I guess since life isn't all flowers and unicorns, my verizon has great data speed (LTE) but my AT&T can actually make calls....lol
Guess it would be too much to have it all in one phone
I had the same problem with Verizon. Loved the LTE speed when I had reception but for 10 hours a day at work I was lucky to keep 1 bar of 3G. I got fed up and went back to AT&T. I do have LTE here in Phoenix so switching was easier. Though I did lose unlimited data on VZW, I'm much happier with AT&T, this Note, and their LTE is way faster right now.
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Who cares what phone is released. No difference between them in WA since there is not att lte and the note doesn't support vzn lte.
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I'm buying one today from ATT. Was gonna get the international however, being my area is getting LTE in June the ATT version makes sense.
wangjaroni said:
Let me first state my situation.
I am in a contract with unlimited data on Verizon with my galaxy nexus.
Despite not wanting to have a contract with two providers, I wanted the galaxy note so badly, I got the note on AT&T with a so so contract (3 gb data, unlimited texting, 450 minutes).
I live in Seattle so there is no LTE here.
I am worried that a superior phone will come out soon (SG III) or perhaps a quad core note and then I will be stuck in two contracts without many options.
So I can either take back my note and get the AT&T version and go with Straightsim and save a good chunk of money ($100/month on AT&T vs $45/month on Straighttalk). In Seattle, straight talk uses AT&T's network so I think my service will be about the same except I will have unlimited data/minutes/texting.
Or, I can take back my Note and get the international version and put it on Straighttalk.
Or, I can stay put.
If I buy a note off contract, I will have the option to get the Samsung Galaxy S III or Note II when it comes out (on Verizon or AT&T)...
Kind of think that getting into a contract for a phone without LTE speeds seems a bit absurd.
Also, the international version has more developers (for now) and a better cpu.
What do you guys think? If I wasn't in another contract on Verizon, I'd just stay put and hope that LTE comes to Seattle this summer.
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I would take it back and try to get one on Craigslist. I got mine by trading my SII and throwing in some cash also. I know Straight Talk is cheaper but have you thought about Red Pocket? They give you unlimited talk and text and 2GB of data for $59.99 but the good thing about there plan is that your unused data rolls over to the next month. I have over 5GB now. I have read where Straight Talk is very fussy when you use a lot of data. Just a suggestion.
wangjaroni said:
Let me first state my situation.
I am in a contract with unlimited data on Verizon with my galaxy nexus.
Despite not wanting to have a contract with two providers, I wanted the galaxy note so badly, I got the note on AT&T with a so so contract (3 gb data, unlimited texting, 450 minutes).
I live in Seattle so there is no LTE here.
I am worried that a superior phone will come out soon (SG III) or perhaps a quad core note and then I will be stuck in two contracts without many options.
So I can either take back my note and get the AT&T version and go with Straightsim and save a good chunk of money ($100/month on AT&T vs $45/month on Straighttalk). In Seattle, straight talk uses AT&T's network so I think my service will be about the same except I will have unlimited data/minutes/texting.
Or, I can take back my Note and get the international version and put it on Straighttalk.
Or, I can stay put.
If I buy a note off contract, I will have the option to get the Samsung Galaxy S III or Note II when it comes out (on Verizon or AT&T)...
Kind of think that getting into a contract for a phone without LTE speeds seems a bit absurd.
Also, the international version has more developers (for now) and a better cpu.
What do you guys think? If I wasn't in another contract on Verizon, I'd just stay put and hope that LTE comes to Seattle this summer.
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Hold on a lil longer, MWC is just around the corner...you neva kno whats comin next, its worth the wait, neways id suggest you buy the att version, if you dont wanna wait.. LTE gonna roll out pretty soon..best of luck
Get the international version and jump on straight talk..when note 2 or sgs3 comes out then sell on eBay and switch to next.
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MrDSL said:
Get the international version and jump on straight talk..when note 2 or sgs3 comes out then sell on eBay and switch to next.
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Are there any downsides to getting the international version?
The one thing I have been worried about is warranty. I see Amazon sells one with a warranty but the others don't have them...
I'd want the white one (only the dark blue one has a US warranty)
alnova1 said:
I would take it back and try to get one on Craigslist. I got mine by trading my SII and throwing in some cash also. I know Straight Talk is cheaper but have you thought about Red Pocket? They give you unlimited talk and text and 2GB of data for $59.99 but the good thing about there plan is that your unused data rolls over to the next month. I have over 5GB now. I have read where Straight Talk is very fussy when you use a lot of data. Just a suggestion.
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I've never heard of Red Pocket before.
Which network do they use (AT&T or)? Do they have HSPA+ or just normal 3g?
How are their speeds?
The Note 2 won't come out anytime soon. The Note just came out in November. The international version has no carrier bloat and has a better processor. It's also already starting to get ICS.
AT&T has LTE and a guaranteed warranty.
You get a 2 year warranty from Samsung...if you buy from expansys USA they help send it off for you..
I use ensquared for damage etc...
No downside that lve had so far. I also am not getting lte anytime soon.
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MrDSL said:
You get a 2 year warranty from Samsung...if you buy from expansys USA they help send it off for you..
I use ensquared for damage etc...
No downside that lve had so far. I also am not getting lte anytime soon.
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I'm with Mr DSL on this. Got my white att note preordered on the 14th. I'm disappointed by its performance.and the att bloatware etc. Bought the white international last week. To me I noticed the performance right away. Both stock but the international seems way faster no lag. Killer battle life etc
I don't have lte where I live so I'm keeping the international version. And selling my att note for 500 quick sale on craigslist and only out 200 bucks etc.paid 699.99 on amazon for the international version. Oh and love the physical home button and no att branding or bloatware.
But its all bout what u want. Also never wait for something down the road enjoy and get what u like..
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Also if you want ics anytime soon the inter.. is a better bet. Who knows when at&t will release an update.
Also if you're worried about the next best thing the inter.. version should have better resell value since it has no branding.
Oh and of course the physical home button.
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MrDSL said:
You get a 2 year warranty from Samsung...if you buy from expansys USA they help send it off for you..
I use ensquared for damage etc...
No downside that lve had so far. I also am not getting lte anytime soon.
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Easy enough to wait past MWC now but GSIII unofficial news may also happen hopefully within the next few weeks..
OP should have 30 days to return it to AT&T if he wants to exercise that option..personally at this point I'm leaning toward intl GT-N7000 if I decide to get a Note. Eventhough I'm close to an LTE market, ~80% of the time have fast Wi-Fi access & when I don't only ~5% of that time would be in LTE currently.
When I played with the AT&T I was disappointed not to be able to find the Video Maker & screen mode of the GT-N7000 possibly a result of the differing chipset..
Is the following eXpansys staffer (in France posing to the -usa site) incorrect saying 1 yr coverage?
http://www.expansys-usa.com/ft.aspx?k=253235
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Hello,
On the Galaxy Note we are covering 1 year warranty from Expansys. So if Samsung locally can not help you then you can contact us directly and we'll be able to get the handset repaired for you.
I hope this answers your question.
Kenneth Eilertsen (Quality Engineer, eXpansys)"
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-3-android-tablet-221966/
Are people here using straighttalk-(price certainly sounds better)-if so how is the coverage-service in real life use vs.:
http://www.straighttalk.com/Coverage
http://www.straighttalk.com/FAQ
-Thx
Strange how Expansys just dropped off of Amazon. I was ready to pull the trigger.
I would have had the international and the AT&T side by side to compare.
1 year warranty to me seems good enough as in a year later, I'll be on the next best thing and if the phone were faulty, I'm sure it would have broken within the first year.
I want to try red pocket because I've read around that if you use too much data on straight talk, they will close your account.
With red pocket it is 2gb a month but it rolls over. I probably use that much but I also have my Nexus with LTE, so I doubt i'm going to be using a lot of data off wifi on the Note.
Now the place selling the cheatest note on Amazon is this place:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/detail...ER&isCBA=&seller=A1A0163V84UKHW#aag_legalInfo
for $675. Expansys was at $650. Not sure why they are no longer on Amazon because their website seems to infer that they are still in stock.
Their website only says dual band though and Amazon says quad band.
I'd prefer to buy from Amazon just because I'm a big customer of theirs and I have recourse with Amazon if I have problems with Expansys.
Dailysteals.com has the n7000 for $599 at the moment if anyone is interested. I'm sticking with this i717, but I'm not sure why.
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I have had the skyrocket then i had the n7000 and am now waiting on my i717 and straight up if you are in a lte area get the lte version it is crazy fast my skyrocket was probably 10 times faster than my n7000 when i was on lte that's why i sold the n7000.
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I have had the skyrocket then i had the n7000 and am now waiting on my i717 and straight up if you are in a lte area get the lte version it is crazy fast my skyrocket was probably 10 times faster than my n7000 when i was on lte that's why i sold the n7000.
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Yeah. I have LTE already on Verizon and there is no LTE here, so it's a no brainer for me.
Amazon keeps on doing strange stuff with different sellers. I had finally got comfortable with buying from Expansys and now they've been replaced with a ton of other sellers at higher prices.
I guess expansys ran out.
Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
I just got my HTC One a week ago, so I might not be the best person to answer you, but somethings better than nothing right? lol
Anyway. For what its worth, I have the T-mo HTC One and the bloat really isnt that bad. Sure, you cant uninstall it, but the Sense 5.0 launcher lets you hide apps from the drawer and the T-mo apps dont stay on as running services if you turn them off.
Besides the Apps, theres no hint of this HTC One being on T-Mobile.
And I think you might miss out on WiFi Calling with T-mo if you get the Dev version of the HTC One. I'm definitely not sure about this, but its the only downside I can see besides the different bands, which someone else can comment on.
KiamatDusk said:
Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
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I have had an unlocked 32gb on Tmobile since mid April and I'm loving it, if you're in a refarmed area dont worry, where I live (SoCal) it's entirely refarmed and Ive been getting good HSPA+ the whole time, and as of a few days ago LTE as well. I would just go for the unlocked, especially since you'll be traveling.
Nippero said:
I just got my HTC One a week ago, so I might not be the best person to answer you, but somethings better than nothing right? lol
Anyway. For what its worth, I have the T-mo HTC One and the bloat really isnt that bad. Sure, you cant uninstall it, but the Sense 5.0 launcher lets you hide apps from the drawer and the T-mo apps dont stay on as running services if you turn them off.
Besides the Apps, theres no hint of this HTC One being on T-Mobile.
And I think you might miss out on WiFi Calling with T-mo if you get the Dev version of the HTC One. I'm definitely not sure about this, but its the only downside I can see besides the different bands, which someone else can comment on.
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Wifi calling is a software thing not hardware, you can flash parts of a tmobile rom to get it if you really want it on an unlocked/dev edition
CrappyAlloy said:
I have had an unlocked 32gb on Tmobile since mid April and I'm loving it, if you're in a refarmed area dont worry, where I live (SoCal) it's entirely refarmed and Ive been getting good HSPA+ the whole time, and as of a few days ago LTE as well. I would just go for the unlocked, especially since you'll be traveling.
what part of socal do you live in? i got the tmobile htc one last month because i wasn't sure what parts would be refarmed. I live about 25 miles out of Anaheim and i know that area got refarmed i believe but i'm not outthere alot so i did not want to take a chance and get the developer version. i only want to know so when i get my next phone next year, i can be better informed
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daniel2744 said:
what part of socal do you live in? i got the tmobile htc one last month because i wasn't sure what parts would be refarmed. I live about 25 miles out of Anaheim and i know that area got refarmed i believe but i'm not outthere alot so i did not want to take a chance and get the developer version. i only want to know so when i get my next phone next year, i can be better informed
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I live in the Rancho/Fontana area, but I go to CPP so I regularly commute between the LA and San Bernardino areas, I'd say a good 85% or so of the areas I go to are refarmed, and of those about 40% of them already have LTE; I gotta give props to Tmobile, I've enjoyed their service so far and for only 30 a month it's been great.
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I live in the Rancho/Fontana area, but I go to CPP so I regularly commute between the LA and San Bernardino areas, I'd say a good 85% or so of the areas I go to are refarmed, and of those about 40% of them already have LTE; I gotta give props to Tmobile, I've enjoyed their service so far and for only 30 a month it's been great.
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oh okay thanks for letting me know. i will keep this in mind or next year when i get a new phone or if i brink my tmobile htc one then i will need a replacement lol. i live in Corona. i get lte out here and really great hspa+. i also go to CPP actually lol. tmobile has impressed me too. 30 bucks a month is great. i'm assume you have the prepaid plan? i'm on postpaid but only pay 63 bucks a month for unlimited everything. i need my data lol
I have the developer edtion and switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Best thing I did speeds are 10 x faster. I'm in a reframed area. If you're in a reframed area definitely go for it.
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KiamatDusk said:
Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
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I would get the T-Mobile version. There are only a few TMO apps, and having the AWS available is a good thing, especially when traveling. TMO will unlock your phone for you, so unless you are leaving for Europe within 40 days, it should not be a problem. Actually, I've read posts from folks who got their unlock code immediately, provided they paid for the entire phone.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1029739-REG
And I just filed my taxes on Friday ?
I was so excited about getting a new C6806.
The white and black colors are discontinued. Purple is still available, but it's purple...
Just a heads up.
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It's available from other stores.
bchaney16 said:
It's available from other stores.
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What other store(s) sells a brand new C6806?
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What other store(s) sells a brand new C6806?
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Looks like they're available from some 3rd party sellers on Amazon and eBay but at inflated prices. I thought that they were more readily available around $300-350, my apologies. Better snatch that purple one if you need a new one. I got a used one in like new condition on eBay, no problems with it.
I bought the purple one from B&H and it's great. As a guy no one has ever commented on the purple, just the size... To which I shoot them a 'piss off' look and they go away.
squeakywipers said:
I bought the purple one from B&H and it's great. As a guy no one has ever commented on the purple, just the size... To which I shoot them a 'piss off' look and they go away.
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Do you prefer the purple over the black look?
I do
You can try either Amazon or eBay.
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A little tip, the C6833 is available for $289 brand new from Expansys.com in black, white, and purple. The 6833 receives faster updates than the 6802 & 6806 because it's the international version. They even have a 1 year warranty on them. It'll still work here in the United States on AT&T & T-Mobile. I'm from the Chicago area and T-Mobile gets the best LTE signals hands down. I switched from AT&T for that very reason.
The 6833 is every bit as good as the 6806. Actually these newer builds are much better than the first builds when they 1st came out. You really can't lose. Otherwise, the Z Ultra has been discontinued the release of the Z2 way back in late 2013, 2014 sometime. Plus it received better developer support than the others.
Just my.02¢
TheFamilyMan said:
A little tip, the C6833 is available for $289 brand new from Expansys.com in black, white, and purple. The 6833 receives faster updates than the 6802 & 6806 because it's the international version. They even have a 1 year warranty on them. It'll still work here in the United States on AT&T & T-Mobile. I'm from the Chicago area and T-Mobile gets the best LTE signals hands down. I switched from AT&T for that very reason.
The 6833 is every bit as good as the 6806. Actually these newer builds are much better than the first builds when they 1st came out. You really can't lose. Otherwise, the Z Ultra has been discontinued the release of the Z2 way back in late 2013, 2014 sometime. Plus it received better developer support than the others.
Just my.02¢
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I was originally originally going to get the C6833, but due to poor building penetration (at my job that I work at) with T-Mobile, I had to switch to AT&T (Cricket). Which was why I wanted to get a brand new C6806, since it supports all AT&T and T-Mobile LTE bands. The C6833 only supports T-Mobile LTE bands.
C6833 DOES Support AT&T
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I was originally originally going to get the C6833, but due to poor building penetration (at my job that I work at) with T-Mobile, I had to switch to AT&T (Cricket). Which was I wanted to get a brand new C6806, since it supports all AT&T and T-Mobile LTE bands. The C6833 only supports T-Mobile LTE bands.
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I had AT&T LTE Service directly through AT&T GoPhone Service then switched to Straight Talk AT&T. I know for a fact it does support BOTH AT&T & T-Mobile. However, in the Chicago area the T-Mobile LTE signal is way better than the AT&T for me personally.
Having the ability to receive an AT&T LTE connection was one of the main factors when I originally purchased my C6833 otherwise I wouldn't have gone that route at the time. After a whole year of poor LTE connection issues I finally switched to T-mobile. For me it's been one the best decisions I've made other than grabbing 6833.
I may even have a screenshot of the poor AT&T LTE connection taken way back when I was trying to resolve those issues with AT&T Tech Support. If I still have them I post them for you to compare.
Just sayin'
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I had AT&T LTE Service directly through AT&T GoPhone Service then switched to Straight Talk AT&T. I know for a fact it does support BOTH AT&T & T-Mobile. However, in the Chicago area the T-Mobile LTE signal is way better than the AT&T for me personally.
Having the ability to receive an AT&T LTE connection was one of the main factors when I originally purchased my C6833 otherwise I wouldn't have gone that route at the time. After a whole year of poor LTE connection issues I finally switched to T-mobile. For me it's been one the best decisions I've made other than grabbing 6833.
I may even have a screenshot of the poor AT&T LTE connection taken way back when I was trying to resolve those issues with AT&T Tech Support. If I still have them I post them for you to compare.
Just sayin'
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I have a Nexus 4 right now as my main phone, and the C6833 is basically identical to it, in terms of supported bands.
Don't get me wrong, most times, I get "SOME" AT&T LTE with the supported bands. But I know for a fact that the C6833 and Nexus 4 are both missing the 700 band, which is AT&T's major LTE band. The 1700/2100 lte bands are used for uplink/downlink at 21mps when there's low 700 lte band signal, which may be (98% sure) why we both have/had poor AT&T LTE signal /connection.
The C6806 has all supported bands for T-Mobile and AT&T, so my theory is that I SHOULD (in theory) have a way better AT&T LTE Signal/connection with 700 band included.
I'll have to ✔ around 2C if any C6806 R Available
Could be! Now that'd piss me off cuz technically were SUPPOSED to be able to receive a signal @ 700 GHz. I do know that's why the 6806 was chosen for use in the United States.
I've become friends with the guys over at Overseas Electronics in Chicago. They usually get their stock sent from distributors or family from India - I'll ask them if they could still grab a new 6806. If they should be able to do that are you still interested in purchasing one? I don't think at this point they'd want a device lying around the store collecting dust cuz no-one would be interested.
I'm positive it'd be the going rate at $289 or less since it's not an international device. If you think you are hit me up and if need be I'll front the money so you can grab the device you want. Or I could just keep my nose out of your business, I'm just trying to help you.
Let me know, enjoy the rest of the weekend!
TheFamilyMan
TheFamilyMan said:
Could be! Now that'd piss me off cuz technically were SUPPOSED to be able to receive a signal @ 700 GHz. I do know that's why the 6806 was chosen for use in the United States.
I've become friends with the guys over at Overseas Electronics in Chicago. They usually get their stock sent from distributors or family from India - I'll ask them if they could still grab a new 6806. If they should be able to do that are you still interested in purchasing one? I don't think at this point they'd want a device lying around the store collecting dust cuz no-one would be interested.
I'm positive it'd be the going rate at $289 or less since it's not an international device. If you think you are hit me up and if need be I'll front the money so you can grab the device you want. Or I could just keep my nose out of your business, I'm just trying to help you.
Let me know, enjoy the rest of the weekend!
TheFamilyMan
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Oh yeah dude! Definitely! I'd really appreciate that, thank you! It just sucks knowing that I'm paying $50 for 5 gigs of LTE and I'm only getting half the speeds because of "hardware limitations" lol.
But yeah, I'd definitely be interested in picking up a C6806. If you still have an old or prepaid AT&T sim, maybe you could ask to test one for a few moments to see if a signal connects, just to see if our theory is correct. I still want to buy one regardless ?
frothe3 said:
You can try either Amazon or eBay.
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and Expansys as well
WildBit said:
and Expansys as well
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USA Expansys-usa.com doesn't have a C6806 anymore unfortunately , just the C6833.
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Don't know if this would be of any use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
I posted it before and I think it was @E90 Commie that replied it wouldn't work on one of his phones.
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Don't know if this would be of any use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
I posted it before and I think it was @E90 Commie that replied it wouldn't work on one of his phones.
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I think this info goes for a different thread
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I think this info goes for a different thread
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Really?
Do you guys think that $349.99 is overpriced for the C6806?
That's how much its going for brand new at b&h for the purple edition
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I've tried to grab two (G500T) now and both refuse to connect to T-Mobile unless I'm in their store. The reps figured it was a SIM issue and didn't bother to look up the IMEI. At home I tried my and my wife's sims from a rooted S3 and a rooted Core Prime and I get the same thing.... they won't attach to T-Mobile even though the other phones do.
So when I used TMo's IMEI tool both report as being overdue on accounts. So how are supposedly "Manufacturer refurbs" coming out with this flag? Is there any way to get these G500T's and know before purchase that the IMEI is clean and that it will just work on Tmo?
-gmolds
Am i missing something here... this Amazon post for the G900T even states that the device is only partially usable on TMo. Isn't that the Tmo variant? I mean the two I receieved booted to 4.4.2 or maybe 4.4.4 with the TMo graphinc and Jingle yet wouldn't grab a TMo tower outside of their store.
Add to that if I turned on WiFi calling I was recognized as the correct number and could send and receive calls/sms just fine.
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Am i missing something here... this Amazon post for the G900T even states that the device is only partially usable on TMo. Isn't that the Tmo variant? I mean the two I receieved booted to 4.4.2 or maybe 4.4.4 with the TMo graphinc and Jingle yet wouldn't grab a TMo tower outside of their store.
Add to that if I turned on WiFi calling I was recognized as the correct number and could send and receive calls/sms just fine.
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There has been tons and tons of rebranded att devices people are selling as unlocked g900f and g900t devices as att has locked bootloader and nobody wants them. Could be your problem.
I wouldn't trust amazon nor eBay. Try swappa.com 100% and guaranteed to not be black listed
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There has been tons and tons of rebranded att devices people are selling as unlocked g900f and g900t devices as att has locked bootloader and nobody wants them. Could be your problem.
I wouldn't trust amazon nor eBay. Try swappa.com 100% and guaranteed to not be black listed
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I'll look at swappa... but would AT&T locked ones root and take TMo kernels/ROMs becasue I was able to do exactly that and as stated, in the TMo store, it linked up instantly with full LTE (WiFi off) but outside of the stores reach it wouldn't connect. And again, the phone's IMEI according to TMo's lookup tool (both of them) had outstanding bills associated with them.
Isn't the Amazon link odd in that it is listed as a T but claims partial TMo functionality?
Or you could just buy straight from T-Mobile! I got two for $200 each. They're also eligible for T-Mobile's interest free credit system and come with a 90 day warranty which they will honour even if rooted.
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Or you could just buy straight from T-Mobile! I got two for $200 each. They're also eligible for T-Mobile's interest free credit system and come with a 90 day warranty which they will honour even if rooted.
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Currently showing $250... a bit high for this model used IMO.
Worth a bit extra for some peace of mind, imo. As the T-Mobile rep I spoke to pointed out, the CPO devices go through an 80 point check which the new phones don't, at least not by TM. Both ours look brand new, and I'm guessing that both the glass & battery, and probably the outer cover too, were replaced. There's a difference between used & CPO. And I'm guessing $250 is less than you paid for the two you bought that you can't use outside the store??
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Worth a bit extra for some peace of mind, imo. As the T-Mobile rep I spoke to pointed out, the CPO devices go through an 80 point check which the new phones don't, at least not by TM. Both ours look brand new, and I'm guessing that both the glass & battery, and probably the outer cover too, were replaced. There's a difference between used & CPO. And I'm guessing $250 is less than you paid for the two you bought that you can't use outside the store??
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Actually they were $140 apiece via Woot (Amazon subsidiary) and were listed as AT&T and T-Mobile friendly. One wouldn't charge and the other had the bad IMEI. I'd go as high as $200 I think. I'll keep an eye on Swappa and maybe call a TMo rep to see if they'll come down. I'm in no hurry... just getting ready for our next phones. I can't let Shiny get too far ahead or I'll miss out on all of his great work and their derivatives
As I said, when I bought ours they were $200, they'd previously been $250, so you may get lucky if you keep your eye on T-Mobile. I did their interest-free plan, so it's $8/month each, which seems like a hell of a deal now I've seen how good the phone is. Add a $10 wireless charging coil and you've got a phone that's indistinguishable from a $700 current model.
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Actually they were $140 apiece via Woot (Amazon subsidiary) and were listed as AT&T and T-Mobile friendly. One wouldn't charge and the other had the bad IMEI. I'd go as high as $200 I think. I'll keep an eye on Swappa and maybe call a TMo rep to see if they'll come down. I'm in no hurry... just getting ready for our next phones. I can't let Shiny get too far ahead or I'll miss out on all of his great work and their derivatives
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Those are TMo friendly phones, in that you can put a TMo SIM in them and they will work. However, that's not the same as a 900T. I bought a S5 through Woot back in January, and it was described as a 900T and it was a 900T.
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Those are TMo friendly phones, in that you can put a TMo SIM in them and they will work. However, that's not the same as a 900T. I bought a S5 through Woot back in January, and it was described as a 900T and it was a 900T.
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It is/was (http://www.woot.com/offers/samsung-galaxy-s5-unlocked-16gb-sd-23) in fact a 900T. It reported as much. I've laid out pretty specifically what the problem was and got confirmation from TMo. The real problem is the resellers putting these phones out there as able to be used when the IMEI clearly reports as a phone in arrears on it's account.
If I had been willing to pay the account that the pay as you go phone had been bought on, it would have started working. TMo had taht IMEI blacklisted.
Maybe they're generic specs, but they don't list the AWS bands for T-Mobile, which is the usual problem with buying phones that may or may not be T-Mobile devices.
Readily admitting that I don't know what you're talking about but the fact that I connected to TMo with full bars when at the Tmo shop but dropped out as soon as I drove away and the fact that the phone is in Tmo's system seems to me to be a fairly clear indication that is was a proper model.
In any case.. got one off of swappa and watching for another in my price range and in a condition I will accept. Thanks all for the comments and pointers.
It's not an indication that it's a proper model. Speaking very generally, an AT&T phone will work on T-Mobile because they're both GSM/LTE phones. However, the GSM bands they use aren't identical. There's some overlap, but in some areas there are bands used on T-Mobile that AT&T phones can't use. What that means in practice is that in some places the AT&T phones won't get a signal on T-Mobile and may use 3G rather than LTE. AWS is GSM 1700/2100. It's the same reason why my T-Mobile phones work in the UK but the data over there is slow.
So in this case when the phone is reporting that knox hadn't been tripped and the phone info claimed to be a 900T is still may be an AT&T?
I just bought this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MF64PSK/ on Amazon. Clean IMEI and a 90 day money back guarantee. Looks brand new.
magdelaine said:
I just bought this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MF64PSK/ on Amazon. Clean IMEI and a 90 day money back guarantee. Looks brand new.
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Awesome to hear that real ones are out there... seems hit or miss on Amazon. I have gotten full refunds from W00T and now have two "good" condition phones from swappa and am happy with their conditions and the prices paid.
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Awesome to hear that real ones are out there... seems hit or miss on Amazon. I have gotten full refunds from W00T and now have two "good" condition phones from swappa and am happy with their conditions and the prices paid.
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I have really liked what I've purchased from Swappa too, but this time I went with Amazon. I read your post and was worried...I had to check the IMEI!