Rumours about andriod v5.0 (jelly bean):
Android Jelly Bean: Key Features
We've recently seen Google release its Chrome internet browser app for devices running Ice Cream Sandwich.
We expect to see Chrome become the default browser for Android when Jelly Bean rocks up, offering us the slick tabbed web surfing experience we've grown accustomed to on our computers.
As enormous screens start to keep onto more and more phones, it'd be nice to be able to flip it into landscape mode and use it like a tablet - especially as Android 5.0 will be designed to run on phones and tablets, like its predecessor.
With dual-core and quad-core processors now ruling the roost when it comes to mobile power we expect Android Jelly Bean to optimise these super quick chips and provide a fluid and speedy experience.
More power means more demand on the battery and Android 5.0 will need to make sure it works in the most efficient way possible, providing us with maximum battery life when we're hammering high-def, 3D games.
An improved power management suite would also be useful and Google may take a leaf out of HTC's book, which integrates power management features into its Sense UI.
We could see a "lite" version of Android Jelly Bean which is optimised to run on budget devices and which will allow manufacturers to offer super-cheap smartphones. Microsoft is already sowing the seeds with its Windows Phone Tango OS and we won't be surprised if Google follows suit.
If you're an HTC user you'll be familiar with lock screen widgets and this feature could be made a permanent option with Android Jelly Bean, bringing widgets to every manufacturer's lock screen.
Android phone manufactures have got user's backs up recently over the slow deployment of Ice Cream Sandwich to their current handsets. When Android Jelly Bean rolls onto the screen we hope it brings a clear upgrade plan with it, with users knowing exactly where they stand and how long they will have to wait.
As we churn more and more files onto our devices, it becomes increasingly tricky to keep track of everything. Some manufactures offer file managers as part of their user interfaces, but Android currently lacks its own dedicated file manager, something Android 5.0 can hopefully solve.
Android Jelly Bean: Manufacturer commitments
LG told TechRadar that it guarantees an update to Android Jelly Bean for all of its 2012 handsets which are able to support version 5.0 of the popular operating system.
Asus has made it clear that it wants to be the first company to offer devices running Android 5.0, after leading the way with Android Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich updates.
Android Jelly Bean: Release Date
Some rather optimistic rumours have suggested that we could see Android Jelly Bean make its way onto handsets as early as Q2 (April-June) this year, but we find this highly unlikely as we've only just seen the first wave of Ice Cream Sandwich devices launched at MWC 2012.
There's also some slight more believable speculation that Android Jelly Bean will arrive towards the end of this year as Google looks to continue with its annual roll-out of software updates.
Google has said that it will be flexible with the Android Jelly Bean release date and it might differ from previous releases depending on how long it takes to finish the update.
Android Jelly Bean: Successor
It looks like the next version of Google's mobile OS (Android 6.0?) will be known as Android Key Lime Pie.
General Android surely, not remotely relevant to the S considering we don't even have ICS yet
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Jelly Bean will not be 5.0!! It will be 4.1! Why does evrybodythink it is 5.0, Google has already said it will be 4.1. It is just like before ics was released everybody called it 2.4... Damn.
No offense.
Don't you worry about JB, JB will NEVER be made avalible for Xperia S by FONY...
When FONY update this "flagship" to ICS at some point in the future, they have hold up the update agreememt with Google, and then this "flagship" will also be abandon...!
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pshdo said:
Don't you worry about JB, JB will NEVER be made avalible for Xperia S by FONY...
When FONY update this "flagship" to ICS at some point in the future, they have hold up the update agreememt with Google, and then this "flagship" will also be abandon...!
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If you're not happy with it, why did you buy it? Sony already said they will be making whatever comes after ICS available for the Xperia S and the other devices in the 2012 line-up. Don't be an idiot now.
We don't even know for sure what is coming after ICS, by the way, it's all just rumours for now.
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Don't you worry about JB, JB will NEVER be made avalible for Xperia S by FONY...
When FONY update this "flagship" to ICS at some point in the future, they have hold up the update agreememt with Google, and then this "flagship" will also be abandon...!
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Not sure if trolling.
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@OP: First of all, state your sources. Not even because it's good practice, but because techradar TOS says you must.
http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...roid-jelly-bean-what-we-expect-to-see-1036013
Secondly, much of the article looks like general analytics and stating the completely obvious things that Google must do to keep their market share.
And finally, JB will likely be 4.1, which already means that the author doesn't know much about the subject.
pshdo said:
Don't you worry about JB, JB will NEVER be made avalible for Xperia S by FONY...
When FONY update this "flagship" to ICS at some point in the future, they have hold up the update agreememt with Google, and then this "flagship" will also be abandon...!
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Trolololol. Go tell that to Xperia mini owners who got ICS on a phone almost twice less powerful than the SGS. Which, by the way, didn't. And go sell your phone, get a Lumia instead and watch Microsoft officially deny all upgrades for a phone that's just a month older than the XPS.
You are right...
To but this FONY WAS a bad call!!!
Eg. HTC would have been a far better choice...
As i said, don't worry about officiel JB, it will NEVER happen!!!
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pshdo said:
You are right...
To but this FONY WAS a bad call!!!
Eg. HTC would have been a far better choice...
As i said, don't worry about officiel JB, it will NEVER happen!!!
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)) our FONY is out of date ;D
Hmm. So you have a Chinese KIRF Xperia S huh pshdo ? a FONY Xperoa S
Well yes your KIRF XS won't be getting JB for sure, but our Sony Xperia S certainly will get the JB update
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Hmm. So you have a Chinese KIRF Xperia S huh pshdo ? a FONY Xperoa S
Well yes your KIRF XS won't be getting JB for sure, but our Sony Xperia S certainly will get the JB update
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If you knew a little about music you would know why i write FONY instead ;-)
About JB, keep dreaming!
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If you knew a little about music you would know why i write FONY instead ;-)
About JB, keep dreaming!
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I have a semi official confirmation that all 2012 devices and maybe some 2011 flagships (ArcS?) are getting the next major version. Which, by the way, isn't even JB but rather K, L or whatever.
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for the one who have lived under a rock
The newest Xperia models will get the Ice Cream Sandwich update!!
- Xperia active
- Xperia arc (S)
- Xperia neo (V)
- Xperia play
- Xperia pro
- Xperia ray
link: http://recombu.com/news/all-2011-sony-ericsson-xperia-phones-to-get-android-ics-update_M15127.html
dutch: http://www.androidworld.nl/95856/ice-cream-sandwich-voor-sony-ericsson-experia-lijn/
Read this news,sony has not said that all xperias get ics.
http://www.somobile.co.uk/news/2011...urrent-gen-xperia-phones-will-get-android-4-0
On final they have updated the news with sonys official statement.
Update: Sony Ericsson has told us that the company has made no official decision to update its 2011 Xperia phones to Android 4.0 – despite the comments from a Sony Ericsson representative at a London press event yesterday. Still, here’s hoping…
Here’s the official statement: “When it comes to future platforms of the Android OS, we will make them available to consumers in a timely manner, as long as they improve the user experience and are viable from a hardware point of view.”
So the jury is out right now, but let’s hope Sony Ericsson comes good (as long as the hardware is capable of it).
Ice Cream Sandwich will make Cyanogenmod worthless in comparison for Xperia Neo, so there will be interest and means to get it on Neo. If not officially then unofficial tweak of released FW for other phone, from source code, or some other way...
I hope sony implements it in neo. The phone is great and a software upgrade it will be much better.
Sorry for my bad english.
If they don't, then more reason to build Cyanogenmod for the Neo.
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Hardware and software wise the Neo is totally identical to the Arc,and it'll be very surprising if Sony decides to update only the Arc. Given that,I'm pretty sure we shall be served some Ice cream sandwiches
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I dont' care about Sony's Release of ICS, just beeing afraid of having even more bloatware then.
Hopefully somone else will make a pure clean Build based on AOSP w/o ugly Timescape.
Generally, for ICS I'm eagerly looking forward for many under-the-hood improvements apart from optical polish. Things, Google had missed poorly in the past but were proven to actually work by some Custom Rom cooks. Things like editing a contact' birthday or creating a new calendar w/o using a PC and so on...
I'm more interested in Cyanogenmod 100% working. That way we will get ICS without all the bloatware crap.
A 100% working CM is imho a fancy dream, spoken from my own experience with the Nexus1. Never without anything to mess with, always waiting for the next release that fixes one and creates another bug. That's the problem with early adopting a steady growing system. Apart from those few issues, the features of CM are absolutely fantastic!
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Go google for xperia icecream and see the 1st result.
It would be good on the neo.
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centavar said:
Hardware and software wise the Neo is totally identical to the Arc,and it'll be very surprising if Sony decides to update only the Arc. Given that,I'm pretty sure we shall be served some Ice cream sandwiches
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yea totally, hope can get that update too ^_^
cant wait. go Neo!
even if the update is not offical i am sure we can get the update unofficially on our neos. should be good.
John Cooper, UK Product Manager for Sony Mobile, has been taking questions from customers on Facebook and, perhaps inadvertently, revealed that both the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S and Xperia mini pro will not receive the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update.
We have been waiting for Sony to make an official statement on their Jelly Bean upgrade plans and this is the first concrete news we have on the matter. The Xperia arc S was the highest specced 2011 Sony Xperia handset, so if this handset isn’t getting it we can conclude that none of the other Xperia handsets from the 2011 range will get the update either. However, the 2012 Xperia range do look likely to get the update, although timing remains an unknown right now.
Its funny that many of the 2012 Xperia handsets have lower specs than the 2011 models. It sux! anw, we can hope for a developer to port JB for 2011 Xperia lineup. & Cynomod10 is coming with JB
Credit goes to www.xperiablog.net
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/26/official-2011-sony-xperia-handsets-will-not-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/
They have made a mistake
Xperia 2011 handets should have had that minor upgrade to Jelly Bean, especially given the performance issues. Also, it means those handsets are stuck permanently on 2.6 Linux kernel, unless one goes the custom ROMs way. Thankfully, Cyanogenmod devs are supporting Xperia Mini Pro, so I am starting on a quest to root my SK17i.
Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
It's a shame, but it was expected...
Yeah, i also expect 2012 xperias will probably get Jelly Bean update around this time next year (+/- couple months), just before Key Lime Pie comes out
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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but google successfully made JB for nexus S right? it has the same specs as the xperia 2011 lineup sooo sad
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I wonder....
does anyone remember Xperia x10i? the funniest was they came from Donut 1.6 to GingerBread 2.3. they've got 3 official FW update.. and me guess we still have a chance.. Our device is not low range since we have 512 ram inside. and some of Xperia 2012 family also have the same type.
I was expecting this. They won't update 2011 xperia phones to JB. But they will update 2012 xperias. If I buy another phone, it won't be a Sony. Maybe a Nexus 7 but not a Sony. I was very disappointed with the ICS update. Can't imagine a JB for our phones, maybe to slow...
Long live to Gingerbread! xD
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I dont't think Timescape has anything to do with Butter
Anyway, I'm not surprised, but they could change their minds if community presses them enough. As I remember, HTC upgraded Desire to GB even though they said phone was underpowered (for sense bloatware).
I smell some "business politic" here from sony.
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I wasn't really expecting that our 2011 Xperia phones would get 4.1. But I'm going to flash a custom rom when it's available
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who cares about their update...cyanogenmod 10 alpha has rolled out..have to tell its much more faster than GB..wait for fue for days l get the beta version of bug free ...just waiting to get beta cm10.
The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
All hope of custom rom
**** Sony, where's Ericsson when we need him?
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The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
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Correct.
Nicely Explained Brother:good:
Here is example!
1.Bravia Engine wont work without proper supported lib files
2.Same will happen with xLoud
But we can force SONY to give us JB update
If majority of all the customers keep on telling them about the update for 2011 Family, after all customers are the only strength of any COMPANY
What say guys?
Yeah yeah yeah! As what I have expected from SONY!
Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Well... There is
And i agree, Not only the developers here are better, they also keep updating us with Alpha, Nightly and Beta builds all the time, and they're also open for suggestions
I don't know why people keel slagging off Sony as a company?
Personally I buy an SE phone for the hardware (who else makes a tiny phone with a useable hardware keyboard?) while knowing you can optimise the thing to personal taste by modding the firmware and using apps.
As for updates the Mini Pro got 200% of what it's predecessor got (the X10 Mini Pro which only got Eclair).
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very sad news for xperia 2011 series, but im now testing CyanogenMod10 Alpha rom in lww but its have lot of bugs hope it will fix soon
And I was right! 4.1 probably coming after all!
We are actively investigating Android OS upgrades for all devices, but in the meantime, our Ice Cream Sandwich rollout for Xperia S and 2011 Xperia smartphones continues as planned.
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I just saw this on PTCRB. 6.1.1.B.1.10 version firmware certified for the Xperia U (ST25i).
Could this be a Jelly Bean update? :laugh: Because another ICS update would be 6.1.B... NOT 6.1.1.B
Suggestions?
p.s.: Still waiting for ICS.
This just means we could not root our phone with locked BL.
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As post above, it might be ics because it will be released in October
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Yeah, but strangely enough the same firmware has been certified for the Xperia P as well (already has ICS, firmwarenumber 6.1.B.0.544
So maybe it is Jelly Bean?
Don't think so but since when it isn't allowed to dream a little bit
maybe...
it is just waiting
nickholtus said:
maybe...
it is just waiting
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definitely not jellybean.
martin255 said:
I just saw this on PTCRB. 6.1.1.B.1.10 version firmware certified for the Xperia U (ST25i).
Could this be a Jelly Bean update? :laugh: Because another ICS update would be 6.1.B... NOT 6.1.1.B
Suggestions?
p.s.: Still waiting for ICS.
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I think that it is a Jelly Bean release.
But remember that even though it has been tested by ptcrb, is there no guarantee that this build is going to get released.
So even though a Jelly Bean release may be undergoing testing at the moment, could the next release be a ICS or even a GB release.
Sony (nor any other company) would release the latest OS to their entry level handsets and ignore their flagship models, That's a REALLY bad plan for keeping your customers happy....
You can bet the Jellybean will rollout will happen simultaneously (very unlikely)
Or...
High end: Xperia T/S/SL/AcroHD
Followed by Mid Range: Xperia P
Finally Entry Level: Xperia U
Xperia P, U, go and sola
Well it's being prepared for a number handsets:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/2...tified-for-xperia-p-u-go-and-sola/#more-10186
I doubt it's JB - Sony has not mentioned it, what manufacturer does that? They said ICS is incoming...though I agree with others - perhaps it is JB but to be released much later?
I had a 2010 and 2011 Sony device. The 2011 Sony device had a slight delay to ICS - which was eventually 4.04 I think - it was an improvement on the ICS they had already released for other 2011 devices - they fixed bugs. So perhaps our round of devices will get the updated, bug-fixed version of ICS also?
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Xperia P, U, go and sola
Well it's being prepared for a number handsets:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/2...tified-for-xperia-p-u-go-and-sola/#more-10186
I doubt it's JB - Sony has not mentioned it, what manufacturer does that? They said ICS is incoming...though I agree with others - perhaps it is JB but to be released much later?
I had a 2010 and 2011 Sony device. The 2011 Sony device had a slight delay to ICS - which was eventually 4.04 I think - it was an improvement on the ICS they had already released for other 2011 devices - they fixed bugs. So perhaps our round of devices will get the updated, bug-fixed version of ICS also?
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Sony mobile plans to release jellybean for its first phone tomorrow, so they are at least working on jellybean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32021564&postcount=87
that will be to fast for sony though no news about jb on xperia p (if you check their site it has)
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Sony mobile plans to release jellybean for its first phone tomorrow, so they are at least working on jellybean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32021564&postcount=87
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I was SOOOOOOO close to saying it's a typo - I have seen SO MANY websites makes typos on this stuff, including Sony phones, BUT this is a SONY website so it's true! Wow...
This changes things a bit then. So they have finished Jelly Bean enough to be releasing it's first phone on it, so it must be under testing for other phones? I'd imagine they'll do what they did with 2011 phones - guarantee all 2012 phones to get the next update, in this case, Jelly Bean. I hope the fact that they're working on this privately means they will make it as smooth as they can. I still can't stop thinking about O2 network in the UK NOT upgrading Sony phones to ICS "because the performance was so bad vs. Gingerbread".
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I was SOOOOOOO close to saying it's a typo - I have seen SO MANY websites makes typos on this stuff, including Sony phones, BUT this is a SONY website so it's true! Wow...
This changes things a bit then. So they have finished Jelly Bean enough to be releasing it's first phone on it, so it must be under testing for other phones? I'd imagine they'll do what they did with 2011 phones - guarantee all 2012 phones to get the next update, in this case, Jelly Bean. I hope the fact that they're working on this privately means they will make it as smooth as they can. I still can't stop thinking about O2 network in the UK NOT upgrading Sony phones to ICS "because the performance was so bad vs. Gingerbread".
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Yes it could be a typo... or at least that they are missing to add that Android 4.1 will first be ready when it is done...
Same goes for the version number, that is being tested on PTCRB, but it is most likely a version, that is tested, for a later release of jellybean, for our devices.
Anyway, jellybean is worth a wait, so if we could get jellybean in a month, would I prefer that, compared to getting ics now.
It may be JB... but I don't expect it will be JB but a nearly perfect ICS firmware
edit: it is just a big ics update, got it from inside info
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Recently i was searching the web for a custom rom for the sony tablet s. Which was a waste of time cause i did not find anything. What I did find is that people are saying that you can use the sony tablet s flasher tool by condi to upgrade to jelly bean 4.1.2. can some one verify this. If this is true is it prerooted, able to flash custom .zips.
4.1.2 update isnt out on any of Sony's tablet. So you cant flash it, no.
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4.1.2 update isnt out on any of Sony's tablet. So you cant flash it, no.
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i can give u the link. just excited and curious about the update
but i can post because i am a new member. can i pm u.
I am not saying it is out just confirming.
SONY where art thou :silly:
put a stop to all this nonsenses and give us unlocked bootloaders and jellybean updates for all our Xperia devs!!
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SONY where art thou :silly:
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What??
nukerdude50 said:
i can give u the link. just excited and curious about the update
but i can post because i am a new member. can i pm u.
I am not saying it is out just confirming.
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There will be a Jelly Bean update, its just not out yet.
There is no optin in condi's tool to flash 4.1.2 because it isnt released yet. But probably. there will be, once the update is released
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There will be a Jelly Bean update, its just not out yet.
There is no optin in condi's tool to flash 4.1.2 because it isnt released yet. But probably. there will be, once the update is released
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Exactly!! Condi's new tool flasher is Jelly Bean READY because it does not use the recovery to update. It writes straight to the partitions and because we have the decrypt tool (now in Windows, originally only with AIO on tablet with old recovery) we can decrypt the zip and add back-door and root etc and whatever we want (i.e apps as system) to the 'ROM' and then use Flasher
Stifilz
Any News about the Jelly Bean Update for the S1? Do you think the Update still will come
RX4
ResidentX4 said:
Any News about the Jelly Bean Update for the S1? Do you think the Update still will come
RX4
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S1 wont get jb.
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S1 wont get jb.
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Statement on Jelly Bean Release Schedule for Sony Tablets
"We will be releasing Jelly Bean for the Xperia Tablet end of April 2013 / early May 2013 for the Xperia Tablet. This update will resolve a memory management issue that may cause the Xperia Tablet to shut down from time to time.
Currently we do not have a roadmap to release the Jelly Bean update for the 1st Generation Tablet (Sony Tablet S)."
If you read the latter sentence carefully, they speak about "THE" jb-update. So... there is an update (ready or under development) but is not to be released yet. They absolutely don't say it will never come....
source: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/03/24/xperia-tablet-s-jelly-bean-update-due-late-april/
Vennesch said:
Statement on Jelly Bean Release Schedule for Sony Tablets
"We will be releasing Jelly Bean for the Xperia Tablet end of April 2013 / early May 2013 for the Xperia Tablet. This update will resolve a memory management issue that may cause the Xperia Tablet to shut down from time to time.
Currently we do not have a roadmap to release the Jelly Bean update for the 1st Generation Tablet (Sony Tablet S)."
If you read the latter sentence carefully, they speak about "THE" jb-update. So... there is an update (ready or under development) but is not to be released yet. They absolutely don't say it will never come....
source: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/03/24/xperia-tablet-s-jelly-bean-update-due-late-april/
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Key lime is going to be out by the time Sony sort out jelly bean, I sense the death of android if companies are allowed to take open source and lock it down and fill it with all there bloody bloatwhere. And then fob off customers with lame excuses
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gordo79 said:
Key lime is going to be out by the time Sony sort out jelly bean, I sense the death of android if companies are allowed to take open source and lock it down and fill it with all there bloody bloatwhere. And then fob off customers with lame excuses
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Yeap, and god knows if the Xperia Tablet is going to recieve anything beyond 4.1.2...
If thats the case, im pretty sure my next tablet wont be a Sony
Ubichinon said:
Yeap, and god knows if the Xperia Tablet is going to recieve anything beyond 4.1.2...
If thats the case, im pretty sure my next tablet wont be a Sony
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If the xperia tablet s won't receive anything beyond 4.1.2 or 4.2 or 5.0 i will unleash my wrath on sony.
R: [Q] sony tablet s 4.1.2 update?
The Italian branch of Sony denied the possibility of an upgrade for the 1st gen. Tablet S.
"Ciao @AntwanLou, l'aggiornamento JB sarà disponibile solo per Xperia Tablet S. Puoi approfondire sul forum: goo.gl/eBuEs"
English translation: "Hi, the JB update will only be available for the Xperia Tablet S. You can get more info on our forum"
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Ubichinon said:
Yeap, and god knows if the Xperia Tablet is going to recieve anything beyond 4.1.2...
If thats the case, im pretty sure my next tablet wont be a Sony
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You do know that the Sony Mobile team (which is the one behind the Tablet Z) is very good at being transparent and releasing timely updates, right? The VAIO team is not and they were the ones who did Tablet S and Xperia Tablet S. But at any rate, all manufacturers are quite bad at releasing timely updates, so it's not just Sony. That's why we should all stick to Nexus devices...
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You do know that the Sony Mobile team (which is the one behind the Tablet Z) is very good at being transparent and releasing timely updates, right? The VAIO team is not and they were the ones who did Tablet S and Xperia Tablet S. But at any rate, all manufacturers are quite bad at releasing timely updates, so it's not just Sony. That's why we should all stick to Nexus devices...
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Under "The xperia tablet" im meaning the current one, the XTS. I dont care about Sony's inner misunderstandments, id like to have a Sony product, that gets treated like all the others Sony product. Otherwise there is no point of getting a Sony over any other brand out there.
Thats my point, you cant sell Porsches, release a new Porsche that is actually made from the Porsche Watches team and do nothing about it.
Its just that im disappointed with Sony's decision makings and my new tablet would never be a Sony tablet again.
Handsets are another thing, although if Sony continues to be Apple-like and release phones with non-removable batteries only, im going to switch to Samsung.
Oh well hopefully my tablet get replaced by sony xperia tablet z if you do get the option i would take it.
Least if been offered to exchange mine for tablet z.
If I can exchange this for an Xperia Tablet Z then ill be satisfied.
I will forgive sony consider sony products if they are oke, i will regardless buy playstation 4.
but thats asuming sony exchange my tablet for tablet z in the end pull through.
My trust on sony tough totaly depends how sony deals with sony xperia tablet s issue.
I think sony should give 2 options least, aka a choice between part off cash back because xperia tablet s obviously not worth much, or free upgrade to xperia tablet z with accesory's being replaced asswell for equalivants.
Honestly tough i think the best option is to just get all the xperia tablet s replaced by tabket z,
Either way if they do the first option they should unlock bootloader and root, its obvious their might not be any future updates after jelly bean.
ofcourse time will tell what will happen, i hope sony does the right thing.
"Sony Xperia Tipo dual has surpassed our sales expectation and is a big hit for us, we want to make it even better with the new Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update in about a month's time."
What the **ck is sony. Another slap in the faces of our beloved xperia 2011
Source: JB for xperia tipo
Lol!! I think sony forgot that they released some previous phones too! Huh! Tipo getting jb!!! Our phones still doesn't have a stable ics stock update and tipo which has far lower hardware than our phones in nearly every aspect is getting a jb. :banghead: The next update sony will provide us is when keylimepie is introduced, then we will get another ics update with hell lots of bugs and new baseband!
EDIT: btw slapping phones might have hurt sony
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amnher said:
"Sony Xperia Tipo dual has surpassed our sales expectation and is a big hit for us, we want to make it even better with the new Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update in about a month's time."
What the **ck is sony. Another slap in the faces of our beloved xperia 2011
Source: JB for xperia tipo
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Is this for real? Any official news from Sony's site?
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What the.. :what:
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I wouldn't doubt it.
Sony is pushing our phones down the trash can and there's nothing we can do except for boycotting their brand and relying on 3rd party developers to keep our phones up to date.
Even the ICS update was painfully half-assed. The most ironic move: the Live With Walkman didnt even get the Walkman player on ICS.
WHAT THE HELL!!
It's just a rumor guys...
And a company has its market strategies...
Sony split up from Ericsson... And has started from base after then...
You simply can't expect them to update old phones to the latest of Android... When they got a complete new brand chain to concentrate at...
Though they should have updated Arc and ArcS (being high end phones)
But updating JB to entry level droids isn't beneficial for them. Our phones are entry level smartphones for a reason.
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If the "slipt-up" from Ericsson frees Sony from any responsability, then why did they even bother to upgrade the 2011 handsets (except for xplay) to ICS? One point down.
So this is their strategy, their modus operandi, and they won't be changing anytime soon huh? Then why would we, as consumers, support their crappy way of treating their own customers?
I, for one, am willing to boycott Sony for this. I expected better value for my money. It's not like there are no alternatives in the market.
And yes, it's a rumor, but a very plausible one, considering the XJ already got it's piece of cake. All we got left to do is thank sony for spitting on us.
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If the "slipt-up" from Ericsson frees Sony from any responsability, then why did they even bother to upgrade the 2011 handsets (except for xplay) to ICS? One point down.
So this is their strategy, their modus operandi, and they won't be changing anytime soon huh? Then why would we, as consumers, support their crappy way of treating their own customers?
I, for one, am willing to boycott Sony for this. I expected better value for my money. It's not like there are no alternatives in the market.
And yes, it's a rumor, but a very plausible one, considering the XJ already got it's piece of cake. All we got left to do is thank sony for spitting on us.
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That's upon you... If you like them or not as a consumer...
Sony never promised of updating 2011 with JB
Value for money you say... In 11K (rupees) ... The price range of Xperia mdpi aren't you getting value for money...
1Ghz chipset, HD camera, BE, and all other awesome stuff
And on top of it you want JB... there's no end to man's greed
Tell me any other smartphone in the range which has such great specifications...
Which other company provided JB update in entry level droids...?
You want superb hardware along with regular stable software updates like the Nexus,
Here's an advice... Spend some bucks...
Not releasing JB for Arc/ArcS is unjustified and cruel...
But for Xperia mdpi... Its just asking too much...
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Oh wow, now I'm the bad guy, the greedy, the unsatisfied spoiled brat.
Think about it, dude, the Arc S has the exact same chipset as it's MDPI siblings. Upgrading the Arc S and not the little ones would be worse IMO.
Also, please stop dissing our MDPI Xperias, we're not less deserving than anyone.
Thank you.
Look at what happened to the xperia 2012 flagship? Delayed update, sounds familiar
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hahah that's silly, tipo with 800mhz processor want to run in jb.
compare it to xperia 2011 which mostly got 1Ghz, that's will be more awesomer than that tipo. Tipo doesn't deserve to get the jb update!
Hey guys come on,cool down!! We will get JB. There's Cyanogenmod and lots of good brains here to port great features and all to MDPI. Who needs Sony JB man? I bet (and I wish 4m my heart) that those JB updates for 2012 devices may hav bugs too,like we hav in stock ics. All those bloatwares and all..admit it,even if we had got jb,we wud hav modded,unlockd and get bored of it at certain point. We hav CM ..which is gonna giv us a stable update soon as we see 4m their progress. MIUI v5 has also been ported to Xperia Play..so we can even xpect that smday. There r lots of flavors for us guys.. Ofcourse it'd b great to hav sony jb as base or mayb the media apps..but let's accept, it'd hav bugs. So, thank you Sony for only one thing, the awesome devices of us. And for the upgrades and updates, it's ok..we don't care.
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@pixelado
I think we got great value for money on the hardware itself. I don't see the specs on any 2011 phones for this much money. And our dev section is fully packed, so I don't care much about the jb update. Only downside is those with locked bootloader can't enjoy it.
But still considering that tipo has lower spec than ours, I think tipo getting jb and us not getting it is unfair( I am not complaining though).
mnishamk said:
But still considering that tipo has lower spec than ours, I think tipo getting jb and us not getting it is unfair( I am not complaining though).
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Xperia E has poor hardware specs but yet its launched directly on JB.
Time plays major factor guys...
And Tipo isn't getting JB... its just a fake Rumor nothing else.
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It's not always about processor/gpu .
At the most basic level tipo is "superior" to us.
The 2011 lineup is more similar to the nexus one (yaffs2+ kernel 2.6.x ).Our phones are equipped with raw nand flash.
The 2012 lineup is more similar to nexus S and GNexus (ext4 + kernel 3.0.x).they have emmc based nand flash which allows hardware wear levelling.
Mostly gb was introduced with nexus s and the android archi was modified with it (with assumptions that future Android devices will ship with emmc with hw wear levelling )...android OS upgrades is updated/designed w.r.t to the newest nexus devices .
So technically we are three generations down .
Plus Sony is running two update cycles already ....one for gb and one for ics....
Plus 90 % don't care which OS is running as long as it is running
Xperia 2011 devices may be the only raw nand based device who have the official ICS update...
If operating system is a must
Get a nexus.
Its not a "slap" or whatever . Its reality. Its not feasible economically and technically to spend resources on a 2 year old lineup with hardware constraints of a three year old hardware .
If anything, complain to Google for not providing ics/jb/kernel 3.x to nexus one...might have been easier to work for Sony devs
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@pixelado
I think we got great value for money on the hardware itself. I don't see the specs on any 2011 phones for this much money. And our dev section is fully packed, so I don't care much about the jb update. Only downside is those with locked bootloader can't enjoy it.
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Well, I do care. An offical JB release would finally bring us what's missing from FXPs CM10: new 3.x kernel and new camera drivers/blobs. Remember how FXP's CM9 improved when the official ICS came out? Now imagine that happening to CM10. I'm not saying it's bad, but it could be much better.
I should know, I run CM10 as a daily driver on my XMP.
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Its not a "slap" or whatever . Its reality. Its not feasible economically and technically to spend resources on a 2 year old lineup with hardware constraints of a three year old hardware .
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I've always wanted to hear this from Sony itself: they sold us old, non-future-proof hardware and got away with it.
I agree with mnishamk to some extent. Yes, we did get quite a bang for the buck, but now I'm starting to seel sorry for those who bought the "flagships" back in the day (Arc S, Play, and the like).
Thanks for shedding some light on this though, it's always good to know
Come on.Just the same reactions all over again.I remember when I used to have an X8 people were mad about not getting official ICS.Now its the same with 2011 xPERIAs and JB.If Sony's update policy isn't clear to you by now I don't think it's their problem.As for CM10 I still think it's great but nowhere near the stock ICS firmware as far as bugs and everyday stability is concerned.
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Pixelado said:
I've always wanted to hear this from Sony itself: they sold us old, non-future-proof hardware and got away with it.
I agree with mnishamk to some extent. Yes, we did get quite a bang for the buck, but now I'm starting to seel sorry for those who bought the "flagships" back in the day (Arc S, Play, and the like).
Thanks for shedding some light on this though, it's always good to know
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I doubt they got away with it.
I think xperia 2011 was a brilliant move by Sony !
Let's take a look at facts periodically.
November 2010 nexus S was released with gb
People were sad that it didn't ship with a card slot .
Sony must be deciding at the chipset
Android 3.0 was a tablet os so it wasn't taken in consideration.
Gb ran smoothly on nexus one and dual core proc. was an overkill .
They must have decided to keep hw as similar to the nexi so they can upgrade smoothly.
Nexus one was better option since it had sd card support.
So they kept one chipset for all phones and focused on other features like camera,design and others ...
In april they released the lineup and it was best bang for buck for mid end .
Latest os ,good camera,awesome music,good design and so on..
In november google trolled n1 users (and xperia 2011 users) by cutting them of the upgrade cycle...
Here is where sony got hit...they had to release the ics update to prevent backlash from high end users even if it was not feasible.
Since the chipset is same ,we got update likewise...
And sony earned a lot of brownie points
Now here is the funny part ..
Samsung galaxy S is similar to nexus s yet they didn't provide with the ICS update
The xperia are one generation down similar to nexus one and yet we received the ics update which is overkill
Sony just got trolled by google :rofl:
I bet we would have got kernel 3.x if n1 had ics update but sadly it isn't so.
predatOr said:
Tell me any other smartphone in the range which has such great specifications...
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Any huawei?
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Any huawei?
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Huawei comparison with Sony...
You can get specs in Micromax too then buddy... But these companies don't stand alongside Sony.
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karandpr said:
Xperia 2011 devices may be the only raw nand based device who have the official ICS update...
If operating system is a must
Get a nexus.
Its not a "slap" or whatever . Its reality. Its not feasible economically and technically to spend resources on a 2 year old lineup with hardware constraints of a three year old hardware .
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Thanks for summing up what I have been trying to say all along.
Perfect explanation. :thumbup:
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