Hey people,
First here is my question : I am a rom flashing addict! I really like to flash different roms on my phone, now considering this, should I buy the international version (quad core and 1gb ram) or I can buy the Canadian version (dual core and 2gb ram)? I know that Canadian is the same than American version (And i THINK Japanese). The problem, once again I THINK, is that the rom of one of the versions wont work on the other.
So knowing I like to flash roms which version should I buy? (also buying the Canadian version will cost me less and it will be easier to repair the phone if I have a problem)
Thanks a lot for your help.
Actually, it isnt necessary to have 100 diff roms that arent good, but at least of couple of them that have good support (no matter what is the version).
Also, i really dont care abt the specs of the phone (hardware speaking).
Thanks again
Go for the North American version. The processor in it (the S4) currently smokes every dual core processor. The North American version will probably see more development support as all the major US carriers are getting the same version, plus Canada.
MattMJB0188 said:
Go for the North American version. The processor in it (the S4) currently smokes every dual core processor. The North American version will probably see more development support as all the major US carriers are getting the same version, plus Canada.
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But are there a lot of good developpers in US and Canada (and some other countries that will have this version of the phone). NOT to offend anyone at all, just a simple question.
tenkaishy said:
But are there a lot of good developpers in US and Canada (and some other countries that will have this version of the phone). NOT to offend anyone at all, just a simple question.
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Absolutely!!! You Exynos folks will be green with envy!!!
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Absolutely!!! You Exynos folks will be green with envy!!!
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Why does everyone think the us has more devs what on xda maybe but no there is more devs in.Eu and most Asia than in us I can't understand that lol how about you look at the thread about unified development idk wth people will be jealous over anything infact international side is new to me and so far I like what I see being I'm getting the UK s3 not the us version I can get both but why would I .
I have 4 phones on sprint now don't need a 5 but I don't envy having to deal with carrier updates and delays due to apple past that issue they will be great us and non us quad core , dual core or 2 gigs ram to 1 all I care is we have better stuff than apple ..
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MattMJB0188 said:
Go for the North American version. The processor in it (the S4) currently smokes every dual core processor. The North American version will probably see more development support as all the major US carriers are getting the same version, plus Canada.
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Yes CPU is on par but what about Mali 400 vs adreno 225 .
I have that same setup in the EVO LTE minus a gig of ram and all I see is quadrant and vellamo which I belive one is based dual core and the other qualcomm I think created but when u look at the one x tegra and s3 quad its noticeably faster .
But who cares on bench marks I agree heavy multi taskers will enjoy the 2 gigs ram but I don't have issues on.my evo LTE especially with more roms coming.
Everyday use they will both be awesome phones but as I said we are awaiting apple's crap end of year because after all the bs this year by them I think most of us are waiting on the ip5 vs sgs3 as trivial it is
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If you want more roms etc go for international. It has larger userbase (allready 9 million ordered). It will propably get cyanogenmod support earlier etc
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I dont see the need for galaxy s II variants since the phone has quad band 3g support , but with samsung you never know , hopefully they just put out the original version of the sgs II , variants will slow down updates, what do you think? last time it was a mess with the updates
I hope they will release in us. Otherwise the developer support will be small.
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You can be almost 100% certain there will be US variants, at least to the point of adding in support for their 3G and 4G networks for which the stock doesn't have. Specifically T-Mobile and Verizon will definitely have to add in their bands seeing as how AT&T is ready from the stock device. Now, whether or not the carriers will have to lessen or get rid of any other spec to fit their setup is the big question here. I am really hoping nothing gets changed besides the addition of the extra bands, but I have a feeling that may be aiming a little high.
US carriers always wants to make "their" phones look different just to confuse the heck out of people, and be able to call it "their own"
so yeah, it's almost guaranteed we'll seem some minor changes here and there.
hopefully nothing ugly like what they did with the first release of Galaxy S... missing FFC, missing flash, missing memory, missing hard button, etc
each carrier had something slightly missing
AllGamer said:
US carriers always wants to make "their" phones look different just to confuse the heck out of people, and be able to call it "their own"
so yeah, it's almost guaranteed we'll seem some minor changes here and there.
hopefully nothing ugly like what they did with the first release of Galaxy S... missing FFC, missing flash, missing memory, missing hard button, etc
each carrier had something slightly missing
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t mobile and at & t have NOTHING to change to the original model, verizon and sprint are the ones that need changes because they work with cdma devices, but i would like samsung to stick with the galaxy s II name, it's stupid to confuse the users im guessing sprint will get another version with a keyboard
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t mobile and at & t have NOTHING to change to the original model, verizon and sprint are the ones that need changes because they work with cdma devices, but i would like samsung to stick with the galaxy s II name, it's stupid to confuse the users im guessing sprint will get another version with a keyboard
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T-Mobile must add in support for their AWS bands.
Chad_Petree said:
...i would like samsung to stick with the galaxy s II name...
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Looks like the US variants might already have names...
Can't post a link yet due to post count but just do a google search for "pocketnow galaxy variants" and it should be the first result.
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Galaxy Attain, Galaxy Function, Galaxy Within
No idea what carrier gets what but it's looking like 3 carriers will carry this (my guess is the standard, AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon).
open1your1eyes0 said:
Link To Site
Galaxy Attain, Galaxy Function, Galaxy Within
No idea what carrier gets what but it's looking like 3 carriers will carry this (my guess is the standard, AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon).
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Nice. I'm slightly more excited now.
Sure, I believe that there will be SGSII variants in the US however, they will be not be released in the next few months because of the delay for the launch in Europe and Samsung's habit of releasing phones a couple months late in the US. Heck, I don't even know why they do this when our country gave them the most SGS sales out of any country in the world.
There will be at least GSM variant and CDMA variant. But other than that, I wish the carriers won't create fragmentation.
It's very likely the original Galaxy S is Quadband WCDMA supported by hardware. I hear people use 1700 on Captivate and use 850 on Vibrant by mixing modems. GS2 should have at least the same ability.
Just one device for all markets, and ensure our updates
Theres no tegra wif samoled+?
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I don't care. I'm still getting the international one. No more needless bull****.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I don't care. I'm still getting the international one. No more needless bull****.
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My sentiments exactly!
I couldn't care less if they came out with 10 variants. It's the original or nothing for me. No way in the world am I making the same mistake again.
MikeyMike01 said:
I don't care. I'm still getting the international one. No more needless bull****.
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How do u guys differenciate international or country specific
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How do u guys differenciate international or country specific
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I think the model numbers will be different.
The international Exynos version has model number GT-I9100.
There is a high chance tthat they release one here in the US and although I won't like the differentiation or the increased length of time for updates, because of the community here I'm sure I would be able to keepy phone updated wwith a great ROM with the newest firmware.
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There will be at least GSM variant and CDMA variant. But other than that, I wish the carriers won't create fragmentation.
It's very likely the original Galaxy S is Quadband WCDMA supported by hardware. I hear people use 1700 on Captivate and use 850 on Vibrant by mixing modems. GS2 should have at least the same ability.
Just one device for all markets, and ensure our updates
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this is totally incorrect. the chips and antennas are different andyou cannot dothat.. i have had 3 diff sgs and tried..
open1your1eyes0 said:
Link To Site
Galaxy Attain, Galaxy Function, Galaxy Within
No idea what carrier gets what but it's looking like 3 carriers will carry this (my guess is the standard, AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon).
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nice news, but... OMG! those are some horrible choices for names how do they even come up with those awful names?
Maybe it's their new slogan "Attain function within..."
I too will go for the international version, not sure if Bell will commit to this one considering the SNAFU they had with the SGS.
Wanna buy an SII but now I've read that there's the Hercules coming and cyanogenmod on SII still isn't out -- so shall i wait?
spec-wise it's a monster:
http://versus.io/en/samsung-galaxy-hercules-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100
DAyellow said:
Wanna buy an SII but now I've read that there's the Hercules coming and cyanogenmod on SII still isn't out -- so shall i wait?
spec-wise it's a monster:
http://versus.io/en/samsung-galaxy-hercules-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100
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I would wait for the one after hercules tbh
If you wait, you'll always get better tech.
That page has a big mistake at least for UK phones: The GS2 has 1.2 GHz Cpus nto 1.0GHz so in real life there would probably be not much difference. The Screen size is personal preference and the download speed for the GS2 isn't supported by UK networks yet so you probably won't see any difference in speeds there. On Vodafone HSDPA+ I haven't got more than about 6Mb/s.
All applicable if in the UK of course.
I waited 6 months for a dual core after my contract expired, damn longest 6 months in my life, never again lol
Samsung Hercules is the T-Mobile (US) variant of the SGSII
http://www.gsmarena.com/tmobileboun...like_the_stuff_from_your_dreams-news-2658.php
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile’s-2011-roadmap-includes-plenty-android
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I would wait for the one after hercules tbh
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Tbh I would wait for the one after the one after the hurcules
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Samsung Hercules is the T-Mobile (US) variant of the SGSII
http://www.gsmarena.com/tmobileboun...like_the_stuff_from_your_dreams-news-2658.php
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile’s-2011-roadmap-includes-plenty-android
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quakermaas said:
Samsung Hercules is the T-Mobile (US) variant of the SGSII
http://www.gsmarena.com/tmobileboun...like_the_stuff_from_your_dreams-news-2658.php
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile’s-2011-roadmap-includes-plenty-android
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Wonder why Sammy is going to use the snapdragon as opposed to the exynos chip in the Hercules.
rob_h said:
If you wait, you'll always get better tech.
That page has a big mistake at least for UK phones: The GS2 has 1.2 GHz Cpus nto 1.0GHz so in real life there would probably be not much difference. The Screen size is personal preference and the download speed for the GS2 isn't supported by UK networks yet so you probably won't see any difference in speeds there. On Vodafone HSDPA+ I haven't got more than about 6Mb/s.
All applicable if in the UK of course.
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3uk's network is upgrading to 21.1mbps (hsdpa+) this month which is what T-Mobile and others are calling 4G in USA.
The network It is currently 14.4mbps, location permitting obviously.
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Wonder why Sammy is going to use the snapdragon as opposed to the exynos chip in the Hercules.
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Might be for compability reasons
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just wait for the samsung hercules III...technology is always outdoing itself, so if you wait, there's only gonna be the next gen tech that comes out that would make you regret making that purchase. honestly for me, an additional .2" screen, .3Ghz cpu, and extra Mbps (that you probably wont even use) isnt significant enough for me to hold off, unless the original sgsII isn't compatible with your network.
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Samsung Hercules is the T-Mobile (US) variant of the SGSII
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For some reason, T-Mobile's not getting a SGS2 variant. The Hercules is a modified version of the U.S. only AT&T Infuse. It won't have USB2G, Wi-Fi Direct, or Bluetooth 3.0. It'll have a dual-core SoC but it's not intended to be as premium a device as the SGS2. Think SGSZ.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I997ZKAATT-features
DAyellow said:
Wanna buy an SII but now I've read that there's the Hercules coming and cyanogenmod on SII still isn't out -- so shall i wait?
spec-wise it's a monster:
http://versus.io/en/samsung-galaxy-hercules-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100
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If you're on T-Mobile and don't want to change carriers, then yes, it's probably a better choice. It'll be loaded with T-Mobile crapware and you'll be forever dependent on T-Mobile for updates. It won't sell in nearly the same quantities as the SGS2 and its U.S. variants so it will most likely have less dev support. Also, because it's using a unique SoC a lot of the dev work might not be easily portable from other Samsung phones. Look at the Infuse dev forum and it should give you an idea of what to expect in terms of dev support.
The Nexus Prime should have all bands available for worldwide use. You could take a look into that.
Yeah Nexus Prime will be the phone to rule them all (for awhile).
Its very much like buying a car...
Early 2011 like january or feb 2011? It's great to get the 2011 reg plated vehicle right?
but into the last couple of months of 2011 and you might want to hold on until 2012 for the latest and best vehicle.
Others may wait for 2012 just SO that they can buy the 2011 model, which is just as good for alot cheaper. A bit like all the iphones then... uh oh! I said the forbidden word.
if im not mistaken the hercules IS identical to the S2 but 0.2'' larger sreen
and prob not as thin and light..and thats it..
SS2006 said:
if im not mistaken the hercules IS identical to the S2 but 0.2'' larger sreen
and prob not as thin and light..and thats it..
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It also has a Qualcomm processor instead of the Exynos.
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It also has a Qualcomm processor instead of the Exynos.
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so is this a good thing or no?
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so is this a good thing or no?
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The Exynos will remain faster in games, but Qualcomm's processor will seem to be faster due to the clock rate increase.
Hi folks,
I'm thinking about buy a Galaxy S III, but here on Brazil they sell the quad-core version with 1GB RAM. I think that dual-core with 2GB RAM will make my device last for a long time (about updates, performance and such). What version (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon) should i buy? Please consider that i'll need to unlock it here on Brazil.
Thanks and sorry for english.
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Hi folks,
I'm thinking about buy a Galaxy S III, but here on Brazil they sell the quad-core version with 1GB RAM. I think that dual-core with 2GB RAM will make my device last for a long time (about updates, performance and such). What version (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon) should i buy? Please consider that i'll need to unlock it here on Brazil.
Thanks and sorry for english.
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All carriers in the u.s only has the dual core 2gb ram. If data speed doesn't matter to you and I'm not sure about your carriers speed there, in my opinion I would rather get the quad core one
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SkzBR said:
Hi folks,
I'm thinking about buy a Galaxy S III, but here on Brazil they sell the quad-core version with 1GB RAM. I think that dual-core with 2GB RAM will make my device last for a long time (about updates, performance and such). What version (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon) should i buy? Please consider that i'll need to unlock it here on Brazil.
Thanks and sorry for english.
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Your gonna need a gsm version, so Att or Tmobile. Either way you'll need to debloat it because of the carrier apps. I'd say your best bet to get it working on hspa 1900mhz would probably be Att, but the Tmo one may work on it in Brazil, I don't know?
Your best bet is the quad core international though, at least Imo!
SkzBR said:
Hi folks,
I'm thinking about buy a Galaxy S III, but here on Brazil they sell the quad-core version with 1GB RAM. I think that dual-core with 2GB RAM will make my device last for a long time (about updates, performance and such). What version (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon) should i buy? Please consider that i'll need to unlock it here on Brazil.
Thanks and sorry for english.
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I have both. There are little differences between the two phones. I'll try to cover them as best I can.
Processor - Performance seems to be a wash with the exception of the GPU, which is much faster in the Quad. So, Quad if you in tend to play games.
RAM - The extra gig of RAM does make a difference on the S4. I typically have around 1.6 gigs free and apps I have running in the background rarely get killed now. If you multitask a lot, you'll like the S4 more.
Camera app - Minor issue, but the shortcuts in the camera app don't currently stay. They reset almost every time you launch the camera. On the S4 version, they come pre-populated and never reset. This is actually kind of important to me.
Battery - Battery was better on my Quad, but that was because it was 3G only, I forced my LTE AT&T S4 to 3G and hit similar battery life. If you're not going to be on LTE, battery performance will be a wash.
Apps - International version has easy access to some apps (such as Samsung app hub) that the U.S. version doesn't. That being said, I was able to find the APK and install it. Also, the version you get may have bloatware, depending on the carrier. However, it can all be disabled.
Those are the primary differences I have noticed. If not for the camera shortcuts, I may very well prefer the Quad version myself. But the S4 version has been pretty good and I intend to stick with it. I'm not a heavy gamer and the S4 stays cooler under load.
Well,
Here in brazil the version is the international one (i9300) quad-core. I can buy it here directly from stores, but i was thinking about getting the 2GB RAM version to make the cellphone last as my primary phone for a long time (2 years or more), so to receive newest versions of android and run smoothy i think RAM is better than processor.
I dont play a lot on it, i'll use it to work, social networking, presentation, and photo/video taking on parties.
hi guys, so im trying to figure this out, i've purchased a phone from bell before, which tursn out it wasnt that, and infact was a whole different model which is lesser than i thought i was buying...
so, im thinking of looking at that GALAXY S3 but i see theres a few models of it, or revisions, theres the i9300 which it might or might not be... or theres the newly released i9305 which it seems like LATELY they've been trying to advertise this phone so i almost thought it was the i9305... but its not
i called bell and asked them for what the "model number is" but she said, im not sure i think its " LT7416" which i find nothing on, go figure...
heres a link to it on their site, if it asks to select province then select bc i guess http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung-Galaxy-S3
now i know that the i9300 has a quad core cpu and 1gb of ram the 9305 has 2gb of ram with same quad core.... , which is what i'd like, yet somehow on bells site its advertising it to have 2 GB OF RAM with a 1.5ghz DUAL CORE what the heck?
now im thinking WTF how can bell falsely advertise a phone name when it is actually a total different model, my phone from them i thought was a galaxy W when its actually, guess what, a exhibit II
but yeah i want to get to the bottom of this, i want a quad core phone from bell, the S3 looks dreamy but only if its that i9300 model or a 9305 with a quad core atleast....
i have found this... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Sam...-Sprint_id7099
now searching more i believe the common cheap model of the actual S3 here in canada is the " I747m" which is the 2 gb 1.5 ghz dual core , anybody know where i could find a real 1 on contract? thanks!
Octanee said:
anybody know where i could find a real 1 on contract? thanks!
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Buy just the phone directly & then choose the carrier whose network, service & most importantly the plans you like.
Octanee said:
hi guys, so im trying to figure this out, i've purchased a phone from bell before, which tursn out it wasnt that, and infact was a whole different model which is lesser than i thought i was buying...
so, im thinking of looking at that GALAXY S3 but i see theres a few models of it, or revisions, theres the i9300 which it might or might not be... or theres the newly released i9305 which it seems like LATELY they've been trying to advertise this phone so i almost thought it was the i9305... but its not
i called bell and asked them for what the "model number is" but she said, im not sure i think its " LT7416" which i find nothing on, go figure...
heres a link to it on their site, if it asks to select province then select bc i guess http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung-Galaxy-S3
now i know that the i9300 has a quad core cpu and 1gb of ram the 9305 has 2gb of ram with same quad core.... , which is what i'd like, yet somehow on bells site its advertising it to have 2 GB OF RAM with a 1.5ghz DUAL CORE what the heck?
now im thinking WTF how can bell falsely advertise a phone name when it is actually a total different model, my phone from them i thought was a galaxy W when its actually, guess what, a exhibit II
but yeah i want to get to the bottom of this, i want a quad core phone from bell, the S3 looks dreamy but only if its that i9300 model or a 9305 with a quad core atleast....
i have found this... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Sam...-Sprint_id7099
now searching more i believe the common cheap model of the actual S3 here in canada is the " I747m" which is the 2 gb 1.5 ghz dual core , anybody know where i could find a real 1 on contract? thanks!
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According to the Bell Mobility S III User Guide, the S III is SGH-I747M. I presume the M stands for N.America. You can always go into a real store to see actual model numbers.
Buy the phone you want outright then negotiate your terms with your carrier of choice without getting locked in. In the long term you will save money.
It's not the cheaper version. It's the American version which comes with lte. It's dual core because the lte radio was not compatible with the exynos quad core processor. If you want an international version you should find one easily online.
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I currently live in South America and use a Captivate with Jelly Bean (yeah, an AT&T Captivate) so I want to upgrade to an SIII. I will root and flash the phone so any 3G phone would be compatible. Since that phone costs about $800 dollars here, I wanna get it in America. I just need to decide whether to get the US version or the International version.
We don't have LTE or 4G here, so that's not relevant. Warranty is not relevant either since I'll be in South America. Since I come from a very old phone, any improvement would feel like a lot. Now, I read that the Int. version has a quad core but 1 RAM, whereas the American version has dual core with 2GB RAM. For those who have tried both, is the difference very noticeable? Specially after installing a bunch of apps, since the comparison videos use freshly reset phones. Are there any other differences between both phones besides the processors? I'm considering speed and price but also duration, which one you recommend?