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Does anyone know what the OTA does/changes? I would hate to apply it for no significant reason and cost myself a chance at root in the future.
Not until Leo, tmartin, toast, or haus says so. They are working on root
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So in other wordss, don't apply it??
HTC EVO = my best friend
Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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killakarl said:
Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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You and anybody else saying that is just as useful as me saying if you take the OTA, you wont have to wait.
At this point everything looks like its just pure speculation, nobody knows for sure.
When would you ever apply an OTA~ I don't recall a situation where it was a good idea LOL
Can't watch the Green Hornet until I update the software. No thanks.
I didn't update mine yet and it played green hornet just fine. It's a shame they didn't put a better movie on here it actually looks pretty darn good. It's the most impressive 3d content I've seen so far on the 3vo
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Where did you get your phone, Best Buy?
I applied the update and now my phone shortcut is missing from the lockscreen and the app drawer. I searched online and apparently it's a common issue and HTC is working on yet another update to fix it. Apparently the first OTA update allowed you to connect to the phone via ADB.... so it looks as if they MAY be in the process of unlocking the bootloader for us.
Either way, there are a few small bugs to work out.
I wouldnt apply the OTA.. i know that its not confirmed it will do anything to affect root. However my understanding is the devs working on root didnt do it and im not going to either. Id like my phone to be as similar to the ones they are working on as possible just in case it matters.
On top of that i dont see any problems from not installing the OTA.
Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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OTA - KIA my 3VO
The OTA has screwed up my phone. It is stuck in a boot loop; I was able to go to the bootloader but the factory reset did not fix it. I am headed to the store to swap out my brand new phone.
S_rob7488 said:
So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
mine worked fine did you give it some time?
I'd hold off on updating for the simple reason HTC is trying to fix their last OTA lol
My phone arrives Monday but I'll wait unless theres a bug that is really bothering me, otherwise I can hold off. If you want to update for the sake of updating then don't whine if it prevents you from rooting later.
mlin said:
Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
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I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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S_rob7488 said:
I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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not likely, they said they are giving us root .. i kinda believe them since i doubt they want another backlash like they had
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Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
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But it could and often does patch up holes that COULD be used to rout root...
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I know its to early to request this...but i must have Root access!! Must have Rootcall blocker <3 ;-)
LOL... I was just wondering if there's a way to root it yet...
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Yeah. All I want is my titanium backup mane!
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CXENTE said:
I know its to early to request this...but i must have Root access!! Must have Rootcall blocker <3 ;-)
LOL... I was just wondering if there's a way to root it yet...
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I think they can tweak the Root method for the international Note once they get a system dump from an ATT Note. I don't think it's a big stretch.
droidal said:
I think they can tweak the Root method for the international Note once they get a system dump from an ATT Note. I don't think it's a big stretch.
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Sweeett!!!!!
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I have the international version, rom LA4. I screwed up and updated with KIES from the previous rom to LA4 and lost root. To get it back, I'd have to downgrade (wipe), root, then update OTA to get it back. The exploit used for the older rom won't work on the newer. Not sure if they will figure it out, I think they would rather spend their time tinkering with ICS (can't blame em). Make sure one the at&t version can be hacked, that you watch how you update it. First time I've had a non rooted phone for 9 months, the ads are about to drive me nuts
I'm sure when ICS hits, it will be full of exploits to root it until Sammy figures out where the holes are located and plugs them up.
More then likely we can root with Skyrocket's version.
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+1 ..staying away from updates
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I was informed today that Verizon is pushing out the new Ota already. If you haven't gotten it you will soon. 2 questions....
1. Do we have to Odin back to stock to receive the update?
2. Will there have to be a new process to root after we accept the ota?
Should this have gone under the Q and A?
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drbveb88 said:
I was informed today that Verizon is pushing out the new Ota already. If you haven't gotten it you will soon. 2 questions....
1. Do we have to Odin back to stock to receive the update?
2. Will there have to be a new process to root after we accept the ota?
Should this have gone under the Q and A?
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I think this has already been discussed. The nee ota is nothing more than the search feature dumbing down and a new baseband+kernel. I believe you can root this with the current method. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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Why mess up your root? Just give it some time and the devs will probably have the update rooted and ready to flash with Odin !
Can anybody confirm that these will not auto-install?
On my HTC Incredible, I would just hit install later, but the popup would come back every 15 minutes.. very annoying!
Soon as the update comes out I will have a fully deodexed rooted zipaligned version available.
If I can figuire it out, I will also make an Odin image out of it.
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sfobrien said:
Why mess up your root? Just give it some time and the devs will probably have the update rooted and ready to flash with Odin !
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Great point! Thanks
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nosympathy said:
Soon as the update comes out I will have a fully deodexed rooted zipaligned version available.
If I can figuire it out, I will also make an Odin image out of it.
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No thanks, i don't want a dumbed down search. Does anyone?
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neh4pres said:
No thanks, i don't want a dumbed down search. Does anyone?
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No one does. But literally its as simple as putting the old search apk back into the new rom or ota. Nothing to be worried about
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Double post please delete.
I love how Samsung and Verizon take so long to release updates - except when it's to take away the features on your phone. They get those out pretty quickly.
Does this OTA have any benefit??
Any way to block this ota? I have root access
antispiral said:
Any way to block this ota? I have root access
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I don't remember where I read this but you have to freeze FWUpdate.
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It's been pretty well established how to restore proper search functionality. The real question should be what do the kernel and radios do? Any improvements in reception or battery life? Any improvements in device performance? And most importantly, does this change anything regarding bootloader unlocking research and work-arounds?
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I don't remember where I read this but you have to freeze FWUpdate.
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How do you freeze this? I have force stopped it, but for me "disable" is greyed out
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How do you freeze this? I have force stopped it, but for me "disable" is greyed out
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You can freeze apps with Titanium Backup.
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You can freeze apps with Titanium Backup.
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Thanks, didn't even think to do that for some reason. I just froze FWUpgrade, SDM & VZWUpdate in Titanium Backup.. can anyone confirm if there's anything more that needs to be frozen?
Here 1. Don't accept it. 2. We can pull radio and kernel and install those.
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Update should fail anyway if you don't have a stock recovery. They generally require a stock recovery to update the phone.
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Cruiserdude said:
It's been pretty well established how to restore proper search functionality. The real question should be what do the kernel and radios do? Any improvements in reception or battery life? Any improvements in device performance? And most importantly, does this change anything regarding bootloader unlocking research and work-arounds?
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I consistently get -75 to -85 dbm so I really don't think there is a reception issue with the 4G radio for me. Now the WiFi is awful for me. That could be improved. GPS is sick.... I lock on in about half a second
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FYI guys, we can still root using the same method after the OTA (VRALG1)
Well before I start, let the trolls/thread closing mods have it...
Now anyway, the evo 3d got it's update it looks like today, now this was a little earlier then anticipated for the users, think ours will come any earlier then the anticipated time frame????
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Hard saying not knowing.
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Well before I start, let the trolls/thread closing mods have it...
Now anyway, the evo 3d got it's update it looks like today, now this was a little earlier then anticipated for the users, think ours will come any earlier then the anticipated time frame????
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The atrix is projected to get it a month or two before we do, so that's what were waiting for. What we need is for anyone on complete stock to use cheesecake to check the moto servers every couple of days as that is where we normally get leaked updates.
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The atrix is projected to get it a month or two before we do, so that's what were waiting for. What we need is for anyone on complete stock to use cheesecake to check the moto servers every couple of days as that is where we normally get leaked updates.
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By complete stock do you mean, a non rooted, non unlocked bootloader photon, or could it be a photon that is rooted but does not have the bootloader unlocked
Direct me to the cheesecake... I have a bone stock photon.
vitaminjay1982 said:
Direct me to the cheesecake... I have a bone stock photon.
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Here you go.
Installed... Now what
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By complete stock do you mean, a non rooted, non unlocked bootloader photon, or could it be a photon that is rooted but does not have the bootloader unlocked
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Im not entirely sure. I know that users of MOFs 2.3.5ish rom are unable to hit the server appropriately and that is as close to stock as possible (ie, no custom kernel, no unlock) except for being rooted. Then again, MOF could have made other changes im not aware of that could possible break the ability. I would say, if you are stock and rooted, try it. If that doesnt work, we know you must be completely stock.
Read this to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18965072&postcount=1
Kevets said:
Read this to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18965072&postcount=1
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And perhaps this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226664
yes my thread made a difference!
Every little bit helps.
So we need a non rooted stock phone for this but you hafta root to use it?
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Root is okay, but has to be running the stock ROM.
So if I'm doing this right, and an update becomes available, I should get a notification other than "should be good" when i check... Right?
Also, I'm staying non rooted. For now.
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It will state that something new was found.
Good. And then I download it and put it in a link to share with the class?
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That's where you have to be careful. Sometimes updates will download and want to automatically install.
There are a few threads here explaining how to download and extract the updates. I've never gone that far myself.
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That's where you have to be careful. Sometimes updates will download and want to automatically install.
There are a few threads here explaining how to download and extract the updates. I've never gone that far myself.
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Well I will do this and If anything comes up Ill be sure to post it in a thread or here. Probably a new thread and a link here.
Does it matter that i am still on 2.3.4 because i don't want to update the firmware and lose the ability to unlock the bootloader if i please.
Hi how would you stop a ota by Verizon I am rooted with clean rom don't want to lose root thanks
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Just don't accept the ota. Wait, is there an ota?
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Just don't accept the ota. Wait, is there an ota?
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There is no ota just woundering if they relase it what to do. If you reject it will it keep asking me to download IT every so often I know my thunderbolt if I did that it would say reject it would say for like 1hr and it would keep asking me
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freeze sdm1.0 with titanium and you wont get a ota notification.
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There is no ota just woundering if they relase it what to do. If you reject it will it keep asking me to download IT every so often I know my thunderbolt if I did that it would say reject it would say for like 1hr and it would keep asking me
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I wouldn't think so. Otherwise, if it does when an ota comes around, try looking in the settings. I doubt it will warn you every hr though. Don't know and won't know soon unless verizon actually releases the ota on time
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I wouldn't think so. Otherwise, if it does when an ota comes around, try looking in the settings. I doubt it will warn you every hr though. Don't know and won't know soon unless verizon actually releases the ota on time
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Ok thanks
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droidstyle said:
freeze sdm1.0 with titanium and you wont get a ota notification.
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Ok thanks I will try it
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Verizon OTA, now that's funny.
Doubt you ever have to worry about that update.
Sir-Lancelot said:
Verizon OTA, now that's funny.
Doubt you ever have to worry about that update.
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Yah I know right
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Got my hopes up