is there a way to turn off the focus and shutter sound without rooting or turning my phone to silent? is there a setting anywhere?
anyone???
No. There are laws in the US against that. Rooting will allow you to modify that capability.
You took away my two suggestions which would have been to turn the volume down(doesn't require root) or delete the files responsible for those sounds (requires root).
There are laws in the US against that.
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My EVO Shift had the option.
You can turn the volume down on the EVO 4G LTE and it turns off the shutter sound.
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No. There are laws in the US against that. Rooting will allow you to modify that capability.
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Ummm.....why are there laws against that?
What's the source on these laws?
Anyone have any links to news or government websites in regards to this subject?
You can turn off the camera sounds using tasker. Just set up a profile that automatically sets your phone to silent whenever you're using the camera, and turns sounds back on whenever you close it. No root required, and works like a charm.
The legality is different from state to state, but basically it comes down violation of privacy. Without the shutter sound there is no way to know if someone is taking a photo of you or not. But without rooting you don't have many options.
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The legality is different from state to state, but basically it comes down violation of privacy. Without the shutter sound there is no way to know if someone is taking a photo of you or not. But without rooting you don't have many options.
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Well that's just silly.
fachadick said:
You can turn off the camera sounds using tasker. Just set up a profile that automatically sets your phone to silent whenever you're using the camera, and turns sounds back on whenever you close it. No root required, and works like a charm.
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For $6.50 on the market :thumbdown:
SENT FROM MY EVO 4G LTE!!!
xbmoyx said:
For $6.50 on the market :thumbdown:
SENT FROM MY EVO 4G LTE!!!
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Bought it two years ago, and never regretted it. It's one of a handful of apps I've ever bought and it's solved so many of those "I wish I could get my phone to do this" problems, it's ridiculous.
fachadick said:
Bought it two years ago, and never regretted it. It's one of a handful of apps I've ever bought and it's solved so many of those "I wish I could get my phone to do this" problems, it's ridiculous.
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I don't own the app yet, but I will agree with you that it's a powerhouse. I will learn how to use it and download one day when I'm feeling brave enough.
@xbmoyx: For the price of a cheap lunch, that's a really good deal! Why the thumbs down?
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I mean...gullible?
Anyway, truly has anyone found a way besides tasker to turn the shutter (camera) and chime (video recorder) off? Driving me up a wall. Thanks ahead of time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702559
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702559
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Freaking. Awesome.
Thanks man!
one_love_420 said:
The legality is different from state to state, but basically it comes down violation of privacy. Without the shutter sound there is no way to know if someone is taking a photo of you or not. But without rooting you don't have many options.
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Forgot about this thread. Yes, the laws are different from state to state and they tried to pass a federal law in 2009. HR 414.
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Hey guys Check This Out...
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/android-malware-now-capable-of-recording-your-phone-calls
Lemme know what you guys think of this, Is it Far-Fetched BullSh!t, or Real?
Damn...scary. and to think I've been trying to find a decent app capable of doing just that. Record certain calls. Anyone got any recommendations by the way?
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Damn...scary. and to think I've been trying to find a decent app capable of doing just that. Record certain calls. Anyone got any recommendations by the way?
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It tough to say if there is a decent app out that can do that. Usually those apps only work well if you have them on speaker phone because the phones hardware is set up to not be able to record the other party directly, just what is coming out of your microphone.
One way to test is use the built in sound recorder app in the middle of a call. It does the exact same stuff as the call recorders.
Only way is using mic to record. Otherwise you need kernel support to record a phone call directly in android.
DroidWall is your friend.
jerofld said:
droidwall is your friend.
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+1
私の"du4l c0r3 sh00t3rは"³dであなたを撃墜！トゥパックをねじ込みます 。
"a,o,s,pのback!" >_<
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It tough to say if there is a decent app out that can do that. Usually those apps only work well if you have them on speaker phone because the phones hardware is set up to not be able to record the other party directly, just what is coming out of your microphone.
One way to test is use the built in sound recorder app in the middle of a call. It does the exact same stuff as the call recorders.
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Yeah i seen a lot of apps in the market that say the same thing. Microphone or speakerphone only.
But its not the same. Anyway i keep looking around.
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aimbdd said:
Only way is using mic to record. Otherwise you need kernel support to record a phone call directly in android.
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I'm not sure that it entirely correct, I'm pretty sure it is a hardware limitation that they put there for that reason, i could be completely wrong tho
Anyone know which System files would show signs of Any Hidden Spyware stuff?
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Hey guys Check This Out...
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/android-malware-now-capable-of-recording-your-phone-calls
Lemme know what you guys think of this, Is it Far-Fetched BullSh!t, or Real?
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BS, I wish there was an app that did this to all my calls automatically lol, that uploads remotely. (it'd be awesome as a future Google Voice feature)
Man I'd happily pay for an app like that.
PMGRANDS said:
Hey guys Check This Out...
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/android-malware-now-capable-of-recording-your-phone-calls
Lemme know what you guys think of this, Is it Far-Fetched BullSh!t, or Real?
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at least a couple of times a week i will either answer a call or as soon as the person i am calling answers, a voice will say, "this call is now being recorded".
what the hell is up with that? its done it since i got the phone.
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at least a couple of times a week i will either answer a call or as soon as the person i am calling answers, a voice will say, "this call is now being recorded".
what the hell is up with that? its done it since i got the phone.
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Either you or the other party has Google Voice & they pressed #4 on the dialer.
It makes that announcement (awkwardly loud) for legal purposes, since in some states/cities it's either: illegal to record without consent, at all or simply illegal to not inform them of the recording taking place.
Check this video out...
Anyone know where the Stealth mode files would be Located?
http://m.youtube.com/?dc=organic&source=mog#/watch?v=CKM_DFek_uU
Interesting......
Seen a kernal somewhere that supported call recording... Somewhere in cdma development. And if you allow the permissions to mess with phone calls that is you being informed and agree to it, as seen when you download almost any app, just keep an eye out for the ones that say anything to do with phone calls,
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I am looking to be able to access the cameras on my phones from another android phone or computer. Lets say one gets stolen (I have 3, an evo 4g, an evo 3d, and and epic 4g) I want to be able not to only track them but also access them from another device or computer and see what the people are doing on it or at least be able to access the front and rear cameras with out their knowledge and be able to snap pics from the camera. Not sure if that makes much sense it does in my head and I would really like to know how. I am sure it can be done over wifi or tethered but I won't be either of those. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sounds like a pretty cool idea
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cody_cummins said:
Sounds like a pretty cool idea
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Yep, sounds like a very cool idea.
If you are planning stalking the hell out of someone.
I very seriously doubt u can just tune into your camera from another device without any action on the phone u want to look through. A cool idea it is but can't see it being possible.
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I think it could be done make a prog that has root access n can access the camera. Idk tho deff great idea.
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Look up app called "android lost". It once u activate it from web site it will ask user of stolen phone to enter a passcode. Every time they do it takes a picture of them. I believe it also takes pictures every few minutes and gives u GPS, address location, and let u turn on microphone and view outgoing and incoming calls and texts. Bad ass program. And the best part of it all its free
Use the app "webkey" you can do everything you want to your phone from a computer
+1 on androidlost. I use it, its outstanding
Do you have to be rooted to use android lost?
animal7296 said:
Do you have to be rooted to use android lost?
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I don't believe so
I think the app "gotcha" has similar features... you can also use it for surveillance if you suspect that someone is using your phone when you are not looking.
Androidlost is pretty awesome. You access its functions from a web browser, and you can have it use both the front facing and back cameras to take pictures. That being said, it would be nice if there was a dedicated app that did this. Real-time video would be an awesome addition too. It'll be like your lil'personal security camera.
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Androidlost is pretty awesome. You access its functions from a web browser, and you can have it use both the front facing and back cameras to take pictures. That being said, it would be nice if there was a dedicated app that did this. Real-time video would be an awesome addition too. It'll be like your lil'personal security camera.
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Could u imagine putting this on ur kids phones or ur spouses phone. I'm sure people take advantage of it that way
As mentioned previously there are already several apps that do this. Obviously it isn't always going to be tractable, because the phone has to be on, have GPS signal (or at very least a connection to three towers) to get a small enough radius of its position. It would need either wifi or a 3G connection. Realistically for live video it will need a good, stable 4g connection (unless you are satisfied with a low resolution, low frame rate video feed). It needs to also use as little resources as possible, and be somewhat hidden so it doesn't make someone suspicious or find it to turn it off, or kill the task or service.
It is a great tool to have if your phone is stolen for sure. I'm not sure that it would be really useful though in the event that your phone is stolen, not lost. I don't know about other people but I am thinking if my phone was stolen the first thing I would do is have my account suspended. I would be worried because people can use your phone bill to buy things, and call some phone whores at 800 an hour.
I am pretty sure I read one of those apps have the ability to format your data so it isn't stolen too. The other function I might want to count on, is the ability for the app to lock the phone down. Make it impossible to unlock the device, at all, or maybe with a password. Of course the last important feature would be to have all this start even after reboot and battery pull.
I can imagine this being used maliciously by some people. Anyway, that is my two cents on the matter.
I remember seeing something with somewhat the same function. When lost, you go to the website, lock it, it shows gps location, and takes a pic using front camera if possible. Don't remember the app right now...
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
guyandhisdog said:
+1 on androidlost. I use it, its outstanding
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I just downloaded and played with it, my new favorite app, I almost want someone to try and steal my phone now so I can catch them so red handed!!!! And you cant beat free!! Everyone should try this app, better yet they should start including this into stock phones
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCO2deHIFBQ
First unboxing vid with audio!
Looks like no headphones are confirmed.
Another no headphones type thread...must be cause noone cares about them
Interesting buzzing at 2:43 when the data kicked in. Are we are back to the days of data humming in our speakers with LTE?
What? I was letting every know there was an unboxing vid and confirming to many others that there was in fact no headphones.
cmjkxa said:
What? I was letting every know there was an unboxing vid and confirming to many others that there was in fact no headphones.
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Thanks for the video. Here's another un boxing video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBeH4DEpz0g
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What? I was letting every know there was an unboxing vid and confirming to many others that there was in fact no headphones.
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No worries, SysAdm was just messing with you a little
Thanks for posting the unboxing! Look forward to watching it soon
Here's a longer un-boxing from PhoneDog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QN8e6vB_54A#t=98s
Any reviews out yet? They should be hitting this week since ATT sends out promo units before launch.
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SO MANY UNBOXINGS! It's so over-stated, but IT FEELS JUST LIKE CHRISTMAS!!!
planoman said:
Any reviews out yet? They should be hitting this week since ATT sends out promo units before launch.
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Reviews of phones in my opinion need at least a month of the phone being used.
People that post "reviews" a couple days after release are merely a "hands-on" video of the phone.
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Reviews of phones in my opinion need at least a month of the phone being used.
People that post "reviews" a couple days after release are merely a "hands-on" video of the phone.
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I meant places like engadget or mobile tech review. Surely they have had the phones for a week. I trust them to give me objective information. They can do that spending a few days or a week with a phone.
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Here's a longer un-boxing from PhoneDog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QN8e6vB_54A#t=98s
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I thought the transitions were painfully slow.
I just want my own to unbox.....
Thanks for the videos!!
droidal said:
I thought the transitions were painfully slow.
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The portrait to landscape (vice versa) transitions?
Agreed to an extent. On my Nexus S running ICS the transition delay was 200ms and was changeable to up to 10ms.
I found that having a quick auto rotation could be sometimes frustrating because the screen would rotate when I didn't want it to, like when I put the phone down on the table.
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The portrait to landscape (vice versa) transitions?
Agreed to an extent. On my Nexus S running ICS the transition delay was 200ms and was changeable to up to 10ms.
I found that having a quick auto rotation could be sometimes frustrating because the screen would rotate when I didn't want it to, like when I put the phone down on the table.
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I understand what your saying. Everything else looked super fast.
Too bad none of the review show the back of the back cover. Would like to see if it has NFC antenna there or not
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Too bad none of the review show the back of the back cover. Would like to see if it has NFC antenna there or not
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This review on Phonearena does and it appears to not be there, so he says at 1:58.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-for-AT-T-unboxing_id26848
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Too bad none of the review show the back of the back cover. Would like to see if it has NFC antenna there or not
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It has NFC but my understanding is that it's not currently enabled in the stock software. Presumably this is a difficulty a custom ROM or kernel maker could rectify.
is it FRIDAY YET?! lol
has anyone enabled facelock for your LTEVO yet?
I've had it running since yesterday and very often when I try to unlock the phone it'll try to use the camera but all i get is a black screen then it reverts to the alternate pass code.. this'll happen maybe... every third time? i suppose it may have to do with the camera process running in the background...
anyone else sharing my pain?
I use it but I haven't got a black screen from the camera...
I've been using it since I got the phone and I've only had that happen 3 or 4 times seemingly when I had a lot of stuff already running.
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No problems here. Freakin fast as hell unlocking
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I do get that too occasionally unfortunately.
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Ok I am getting it too...Maybe one out of ten face unlocks will be just a black screen instead of the camera working.
Depending on the lighting it is 50/50 for me.
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Lighting has to be somewhat decent, this feature doesn't seem to work in low light. I recommend you all use the 'Improve face matching' feature in different types of ambient light.
Mine unlocks very fast, quicker than I could type my PIN, if the lighting is decent.
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Lighting has to be somewhat decent, this feature doesn't seem to work in low light. I recommend you all use the 'Improve face matching' feature in different types of ambient light.
Mine unlocks very fast, quicker than I could type my PIN, if the lighting is decent.
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Works flawless on my phone, but as a note:
I don't like it, its unsecured. In days where Facebook is famous, anyone with a good picture of you can unlock your phone, even by holding a picture of you they got in their phone close to your phone...
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Works flawless on my phone, but as a note:
I don't like it, its unsecured. In days where Facebook is famous, anyone with a good picture of you can unlock your phone, even by holding a picture of you they got in their phone close to your phone...
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Agreed...but it's a pretty cool feature
Too bad there isn't a way to combine security features, for example, have face unlock plus PIN or pattern. Might get annoying in practical use though.
I'd love to use it but it won't recognize me with glasses on and I won't take them off everytime I go into my phone lol
How do you enable this? Or is it a separate app from the Play Store?
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derricks44 said:
How do you enable this? Or is it a separate app from the Play Store?
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Menu>settings>security>screen lock
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I'd love to use it but it won't recognize me with glasses on and I won't take them off everytime I go into my phone lol
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I was just going to ask if this works for someone that wears glasses, has this been everyone's experience?, I'd check myself but the wife has my phone.
scottborasjr said:
I was just going to ask if this works for someone that wears glasses, has this been everyone's experience?, I'd check myself but the wife has my phone.
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I messed with it more at home and its working now. Probably give it a full day before I make a decision on keep or trash.
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I don't like it, its unsecured. In days where Facebook is famous, anyone with a good picture of you can unlock your phone, even by holding a picture of you they got in their phone close to your phone...
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Lucky for me, I'm not famous. Anyone likely to have my picture would also likely return the phone to me.
Since I haven't bothered with using a screen lock in the past, maybe I'll try it.
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I was just going to ask if this works for someone that wears glasses, has this been everyone's experience?, I'd check myself but the wife has my phone.
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Under improve face matching, you can have more than one picture to improve recognition, I took one with sunglasses on and one with out and it works.
jjrausch said:
Under improve face matching, you can have more than one picture to improve recognition, I took one with sunglasses on and one with out and it works.
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Also, try it under different types of lighting and backgrounds. I've been surprised sometimes when I've been in less than ideal lighting, it still recognizes me.
Of course, I haven't tested with someone else's face.
Was recording Ron Paul at an event and accidentally pressed the top button. Lo and behold it quit the camera app and I instantly lost 20+ minutes of footage. Way to go HTC!
This should serve as a warning to those LTE users out there, if you're recording something, don't accidentally press any buttons!
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Why would you be pressing buttons when you're recording stuff? I think that having things turn off when you press the power button is a good thing...isn't that the idea behind it?
Pressing the wrong buttons is not a manufacturer's problem -- they didn't hide the button, it's not a secret. That's one of those PEBDAU (Problem Exists Between Device and User -- sue me, I can't think while at work). Sucks that you lost footage on Ron Paul though.
As I already stated in the OP, it was accidental. A friendly warning "are you sure you want to close this while recording?" would have been nice... or just save the footage and then close. Instead, it closed abruptly and without warning and happily discarded the last 20 minutes of footage. Not cool!
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Was recording Ron Paul at an event and accidentally pressed the top button. Lo and behold it quit the camera app and I instantly lost 20+ minutes of footage. Way to go HTC!
This should serve as a warning to those LTE users out there, if you're recording something, don't accidentally press any buttons!
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Highlighted in red. You made a user error, and you're blaming it on the phone manufacturer.
That's like driving a car, and you want to stop, but instead of the brake, you hit the gas, and then get upset at your car manufacturer.
That's like eating a sandwich, and you want to take a bite, but instead of putting it in your mouth, you shove it up your nose, and blaming your body for not chewing it.
That's like walking down the sidewalk, and you want to cross the street, but instead of turning left, you turn right, and blaming the people who laid the street.
I understand that it sucks, as I mentioned before -- unless the manufacturer does something completely opposite of how it's normally done (i.e. car maker switches gas and brake pedals / you eat through your nose / left becomes right) then don't get on them for it. Not their fault any way that you try to explain it. It should read something like this:
Was recording Ron Paul at an event and accidentally pressed the top button. Lo and behold it quit the camera app and I instantly lost 20+ minutes of footage. Way to go FINGERS! FML for pressing buttons!
This should serve as a warning to those LTE users out there, if you're recording something, don't accidentally press any buttons!
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They've pretty much always put their power button at the top. It's a popular place to put a power button. Not every phone does it, but the majority do.
Still sucks that you lost Ron Paul footage.
not htc it was the democrats lmao
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As I already stated in the OP, it was accidental. A friendly warning "are you sure you want to close this while recording?" would have been nice... or just save the footage and then close. Instead, it closed abruptly and without warning and happily discarded the last 20 minutes of footage. Not cool!
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Crazy thing happened to me too, I was watching tv today and accidentally pressed the power button and my tv turned off. Sorry, couldn't resist, but the reason you lost your footage is because the camera app does not save your video to the sdcard until you press the stop recording button. So when you accidentally hit the power button all of the footage that was in the video cache was lost. I don't know if it would behave differently if you set you camera up for internal memory instead.
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Highlighted in red. You made a user error, and you're blaming it on the phone manufacturer.
That's like driving a car, and you want to stop, but instead of the brake, you hit the gas, and then get upset at your car manufacturer.
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Your car analogy doesn't quite apply. It would be more like accidentally kicking it into reverse while driving on the freeway. The car should realize that's not an intended function while driving 80mph forward and not allow it. News flash, it does just that! Furthermore, the top button is not exclusively used to power off the phone. Even when you do want to power off the phone, it gives you a warning! It doesn't just instantly power itself off. So why should it be any different when doing other crucial tasks such as recording video (say in a more dire situation, evidence for use in court or something)?
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the reason you lost your footage is because the camera app does not save your video to the sdcard until you press the stop recording button. So when you accidentally hit the power button all of the footage that was in the video cache was lost.
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Yes, precisely the reason of the rant. The software should at the very least save the video before closing, it's a pretty reasonable suggestion. Don't you think?
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Your car analogy doesn't quite apply. It would be more like accidentally kicking it into reverse while driving on the freeway. The car should realize that's not an intended function while driving 80mph forward and not allow it. News flash, it does just that! Furthermore, the top button is not exclusively used to power off the phone. Even when you do want to power off the phone, it gives you a warning! It doesn't just instantly power itself off. So why should it be any different when doing other crucial tasks such as recording video (say in a more dire situation, evidence for use in court or something)?
Yes, precisely the reason of the rant. The software should at the very least save the video before closing, it's a pretty reasonable suggestion. Don't you think?
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I agree with most of your argument I don't think it would be very hard to add in a prompt before closing while recording however I think that it probably wasn't thought of because its not something that typically happens
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stiv2k said:
Was recording Ron Paul at an event and accidentally pressed the top button. Lo and behold it quit the camera app and I instantly lost 20+ minutes of footage. Way to go HTC!
This should serve as a warning to those LTE users out there, if you're recording something, don't accidentally press any buttons!
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I think you are on to something that is a simple oversight by HTC. But more importantly why bother telling us your at a Ron Paul event. People not being sympathetic to your ineptitude is one thing, and trust me I can relate. However being a Ron Paul supporter may put a bigger target on your back than you just being silly with a smarty phone.
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Were you recording in portrait? If so there's your first problem. One should not simply record video on a cellphone in portrait.
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Your car analogy doesn't quite apply. It would be more like accidentally kicking it into reverse while driving on the freeway. The car should realize that's not an intended function while driving 80mph forward and not allow it. News flash, it does just that! Furthermore, the top button is not exclusively used to power off the phone. Even when you do want to power off the phone, it gives you a warning! It doesn't just instantly power itself off. So why should it be any different when doing other crucial tasks such as recording video (say in a more dire situation, evidence for use in court or something)?
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It applies fine -- the power button did it's function as it was designed to do. A quick tap closes the app or puts the phone to hibernate/sleep/whatever. A long hold gives the prompt to turn of the phone, reboot, etc. It's a power button -- that's what it does. if you pressed the power button and it started dialing someone, then I'd agree with you. If you pressed the power button and it turned the volume all the way up or down, then yeah, that'd be a problem. But it did what it's supposed to. You were the boob that pushed it, even if it was by accident. You threw the car into reverse (which you can do, but you shouldn't!) while you were driving 80mph down the road. The problem is not HTC, it's you. You were the one who used it inadvertently, and dun goofed up. I don't have that problem, and lots of people don't have that problem. There are plenty of times that I went to reboot the phone and then realized I didn't want to -- why can't I undo the reboot command? How about when they updated my phone at the store when I bought it, and it is now at hboot 1.15? why can't I undo that? Because it's not designed to allow for it. That's the way it works. Maybe the app should consider it's users before it allows you to use it, have you do some practice stuff first, so you can painstakingly learn how to keep your fingers away from the buttons. If your finger/thumb got in the way of the lense, would you be upset at HTC because the lense caught your finger? No. No, you wouldn't. Because you put your finger there, you did everything, it is and always will be your fault.
stiv2k said:
Yes, precisely the reason of the rant. The software should at the very least save the video before closing, it's a pretty reasonable suggestion. Don't you think?
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No, it shouldn't, because you turned it off.
DCWS6 said:
Were you recording in portrait? If so there's your first problem. One should not simply record video on a cellphone in portrait.
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...unless you're a hobbit!
skw5115 said:
I agree with most of your argument I don't think it would be very hard to add in a prompt before closing while recording however I think that it probably wasn't thought of because its not something that typically happens
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Make a camera app and figure in all the stupid things people do, then make the options to undo them. You won't win that battle, because they're always someone who will do something stupid.
Ryno_666 said:
I think you are on to something that is a simple oversight by HTC. But more importantly why bother telling us your at a Ron Paul event. People not being sympathetic to your ineptitude is one thing, and trust me I can relate. However being a Ron Paul supporter may put a bigger target on your back than you just being silly with a smarty phone.
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Hey now. I like Ron Paul.
That being said, it's not an oversight, unless you think someone can figure all of the ways that things can be messed up. I want my phone to float and gently land on the ground if I drop it, but they don't have that. I want to not misdial numbers that I've called before, and I don't want my Spotify to play a song that sucks in the Radio option.
You're going just *a little* to far I think. I agree with you in general, this isn't an issue, a button was mispressed at an inopportune moment, and the consequences sucked.
With that being said, I'm sure it's not too much for HTC or android to prompt when in video mode recording and the power button is hit to show a prompt. Especially if it's not going to be saved.
Going in the opposite direction of your examples: wouldn't a more accurate comparison be anytime, on every OS ever, if you try to delete a file you're prompted with "are you sure you want to delete this file?" That's there to catch mistakes. If we never made mistakes, they'd never have to build that prompt into virtually EVERY operating system. And in essence, when you hit the power button while recording, you're deleting that video. From a technical standpoint, it's not saved, I know, just cached, but close enough.
Again, I do, in general, agree. But no reason to get so extreme explaining why the OP is a "boob"
With that being said, OP, you ARE a boob. Jk. I look at this post as more an fyi, but wouldn't consider this any sort of defect.
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If you're writing something up in Microsoft Word, and you turn your computer off, unless it autosaved (which it only does when you don't need it!!!) you're the boob that pushed the power button on the computer. Plenty of times that I've saved a file that was in the temp folder originally, and then when I went to open what I thought was the right file, none of my changes were there. I was the boob that didn't pay attention. Boob is not a horrible term -- stuff happens. We all do stupid things. I don't, however, hold Asus responsible for my goofs.
If I save a file on my USB drive and then I pull the drive out before it's done, that's my fault. It'd be great if it said something like "looks like you dun goofed, friend! Please insert the drive to try again!", but it doesn't. The file either ends up being corrupt or not there at all.
Just a minute ago, I was changing some groups on my work messaging Jabber client, and I goofed something. I did something to it that it's not supposed to do, and now I suffer the consequences of my actions. I take responsibility for my actions.
If there were a way to circumvent screw-ups (which we all do!!) then the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, there isn't a real "easy" button, or a "rewind life" button. You can't give for every situation, and when you start compensating for one person's screwup and not another, you end up having massive, unneeded bloat.
Do you really need text on your coffee cup to tell you that the hot cup of coffee you ordered is hot?
Do you really need a bottle of poison to have a warning label in small print that no one but an older child/adult can read tell you that it's bad for you to drink it?
I'll tell you something -- I learn from my screwups. Grab a burner while it's flaming hot, you can guarantee that I won't touch it again. If it automatically turned off when human skin comes close to it, that would be freakin' awesome, and the technology is available (with a few modifications), but they don't make stoves that way. Sucks, but that's the world.
And yes, it is a bit far, but...I didn't start off that way. If you want something to work that specific way, then sure, make it work. But I don't want extra weight on my app. I don't hit the button, and if I do by accident, then it's on me.
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You're going just *a little* to far I think. I agree with you in general, this isn't an issue, a button was mispressed at an inopportune moment, and the consequences sucked.
With that being said, I'm sure it's not too much for HTC or android to prompt when in video mode recording and the power button is hit to show a prompt. Especially if it's not going to be saved.
Going in the opposite direction of your examples: wouldn't a more accurate comparison be anytime, on every OS ever, if you try to delete a file you're prompted with "are you sure you want to delete this file?" That's there to catch mistakes. If we never made mistakes, they'd never have to build that prompt into virtually EVERY operating system. And in essence, when you hit the power button while recording, you're deleting that video. From a technical standpoint, it's not saved, I know, just cached, but close enough.
Again, I do, in general, agree. But no reason to get so extreme explaining why the OP is a "boob"
With that being said, OP, you ARE a boob. Jk. I look at this post as more an fyi, but wouldn't consider this any sort of defect.
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If I have something not saved in Word open, and go to turn off the computer, as Windows is shutting everything down it will prompt if I want to close Word without saving my changes.
And just like you learn from your mistakes, we'll all learn from the OPs mistake, bc he gave us all a warning.
I don't see why asking for a prompt is that big of a deal.
And I don't find the term boob offensive at all, but it's definitely not a compliment.
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I can see the reason for wanting a warning message about closing when you power off in the middle of using the camera. That said, I have an actual camcorder; a dedicated device for taking video. It has an On/Off button. If I press that button the camcorder powers off. It appears to work as designed.
E: To clarify, it does this regardless of whether I'm recording at the time. There is an understood assumption that I knew that I was pressing the On/Off button. I have yet to lose footage due to this.
Go Ron Paul! The other choices aren't great, Obama has already proven it and Romney you can just tell
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Maybe something wrong with my phone but, I just tested video recording something then pressed my power button and it recorded up to the point of power off. I'm rooted Rejuvenated ROM so maybe that's the difference.
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I'd like ron paul as my grandpa, that's about it.
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puhiniho said:
Maybe something wrong with my phone but, I just tested video recording something then pressed my power button and it recorded up to the point of power off. I'm rooted Rejuvenated ROM so maybe that's the difference.
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Hahaha I just tried this too, and mine was saved as well. And I'm definitely saving to my storage card.
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I was walking in to the kitchen and smashed my pinky toe on one of the legs of the table chairs... DAMN YOU IKEA FOR NOT MAKING THE LEGS OF THE CHAIRS A TINY BIT SMALLER.
I also went to grab the my bottle of water off of the desk next to my computer but forgot my headphones were on. well they got ripped off my head because i ran out of cord...i ended up ripping the usb plug out of the usb port and now the headphones dont work any more... DAMN YOU TURTLE BEACH! YOU SHOULD HAVE MADE THE CABLE LONGER!