Various Questions: Root, Recovery, Locked Bootloader... - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi!
I'm starting this thread because I can't find anything in the whole atrix subforum that matches my situation.
I've purchased an Atrix last month (even when sweared that wouldn't buy an motorola again since the milestone lack of support fiasco) and I'm very happy with the stock rom so far (in fact, back when I bought the milestone, I made the first battery charge and then fashed the hell out of it ).
Now I've sucessfully rooted my atrix and wish to install a custom recovery that allow me to backup my current flash and start testing things out, it's possible with a locked bootloader? In many post there are indications that ROM Manager can flash a custom recovery with only root access, but doesn't clarify wether a unlocked bootloader is necesary...
The whole point is being able to recover the original state of the phone when things get really mess up, (for the moment) I don't pretend to flash custom firmware.
Other question: When I rooted, I installed busybox, why? dunno (and this is my first mistake) but since then I noticed a longer boot time (about 30-40 seconds more). when tried to unninstall it , the app (busybox free) claims that unninstalling it will bootloop my device...
so far, thes are my concerns
this are my specs:
Atrix MB860 (made in Tierra del Fuego, Argentina: often reffered as the "Atrix Fuego" don'tknow if there is any difference with the "standard" atrix appart of this being 3g and not 4g ) Stock 2.3.6 Claro AR rom, rooted, 8gb ext-sd
Thanks for reading and sorry for my bad english!!

here is some info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262266
But in short, the locked bootloader insures that the boot partition (kernel), partition table and recovery are all signed by Motorola. Note that this doe NOT include the system partition which is all some ROMs need to flash.
So some ROMs can, and some can not be flashed and used while the bootloader is locked.
Alas, CWM recovery (or any other custom recovery) can NOT be used without an unlocked bootloader.
[Note, a rooted phone can INSTALL CWM recovery, but the bootloader will not allow it to run]
There is a decent thread on installing an unlocked bootloader and then a real recovery over in the ATRIX/general section. I would recomend either doing that or just leaving things alone

Hey, I did the same thing. Just install Titanium Backup. With this app you can force uninstall busybox. Then you are back to normal. Good luck.

exwannabe said:
here is some info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262266
But in short, the locked bootloader insures that the boot partition (kernel), partition table and recovery are all signed by Motorola. Note that this doe NOT include the system partition which is all some ROMs need to flash.
So some ROMs can, and some can not be flashed and used while the bootloader is locked.
Alas, CWM recovery (or any other custom recovery) can NOT be used without an unlocked bootloader.
[Note, a rooted phone can INSTALL CWM recovery, but the bootloader will not allow it to run]
There is a decent thread on installing an unlocked bootloader and then a real recovery over in the ATRIX/general section. I would recomend either doing that or just leaving things alone
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That's what I thought.... So at least for a while, let's leave things just like they are right now
Very Interesting thread, just got answered a couple extra questions D
chrism.brunner said:
Hey, I did the same thing. Just install Titanium Backup. With this app you can force uninstall busybox. Then you are back to normal. Good luck.
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It sounds logical, since busybox wasn't installed in the first place... But the bootloop message is scary as hell (I think it is meant to be) Will give TiBo a try...

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[Q] Atrix: Bootloader unlocked? What can I do with that?

So I've had my Atrix for a few months now, and it's mostly awesome. I'm coming from having owned an iPhone before, and it's just fantastic. I've stayed away from modding it too much however, since I knew the bootloader was locked and not a lot could really be done. But, according to several posts I see here, the bootloader seems to have been unlocked recently. Yay?
So, I ask that you forgive my ignorance. What does this mean? Does a given ROM need to be modified to work with every model of phone? If so, which ones presently work with the Atrix? Any? (It looks like the unlock was found very recently.) How does that process work exactly? Is there any way to ensure a recovery path if something were to go wrong, so that I don't brick my phone?
I'm just curious here. Presently, my phone is on the stock firmware without any upgrades at all, and I've simply rooted it and installed the webtop mod so I could play games on my TV. Other than that, it's been lots of Android Market for me. I'd like to branch out, and I don't even know where to begin.
There aren't any custom rom's for this yet, there's work being done, so it's just a matter of time. However, there is a developer build from Asia that can be flashed. There are a few issues with it, so if you are averse to troubleshooting or dealing with issues then just wait a few days.
One of the good things you can do right now though is to Unlock it, and then install the Clockwork Mod recovery port in the developer's section. You can use that to make full system backup that you can flash.
Can I flash the UK Firmware on a unlocked ATT Atrix now?
Pretty sure you can at least fastboot flash the CG from the SBF (need system and boot) not sure about flashing the whole SBF. You can try though.
schlupp88 said:
Can I flash the UK Firmware on a unlocked ATT Atrix now?
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_Dennis_ said:
Pretty sure you can at least fastboot flash the CG from the SBF (need system and boot) not sure about flashing the whole SBF. You can try though.
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_Dennis_ is right. You should sbf_flash -x to extract the UK firmware and use fastboot to flash just boot.img (CG56 in Froyo) and system.img (CG57 in Froyo). If you want to flash the radio, use a custom .sbf (for AT&T) with only the radio. We don't yet know whether you can replace your bootloader with a UK bootloader. We still flashed a signed bootloader to our phone. In the worst case, if you flash a UK signed bootloader and your boot ROM is looking to find an AT&T signature in your bootloader: BAD! It is fairly unclear that the unlock ALSO tells boot ROM not to care about signatures, it may very well still care. And the order of RSD: erase,write,verify is a little dangerous...
I as well, don't know much about this... but as far as I know, this will mean that developers will be able to create real operating systems for the phone and not have to wait for att/moto to do that...
in the past it was an OS from att/moto, and all the "roms" in xda were actually the same OS but with some skins and mods added to them...
Yes, if you look at the development forums for just about any other android phone, you will see full customized ROMs that can be installed. That's where we are headed.
_Dennis_ said:
Pretty sure you can at least fastboot flash the CG from the SBF (need system and boot) not sure about flashing the whole SBF. You can try though.
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I did a test with this.
I flashed 1.8.3 SBF over my unlocked bootloader to see if I could use moto-fastboot to flash over a 'stock' bootloader. It works to flash system (since it is still technically unlocked) but fails to flash boot.
So DO NOT TRY TO SBF FLASH A INTERNATIONAL VERSION unless you want to be stuck on the version with no way to get your phone back off.
I also would not flash the boot.img of a international version for the same reason.
beatphreek said:
One of the good things you can do right now though is to Unlock it, and then install the Clockwork Mod recovery port in the developer's section. You can use that to make full system backup that you can flash.
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I just finished unlocking and installed the new CWM recovery, just waiting for some roms! About the full system backup with CWM, does is deposit a folder to the SD card I can remove for safe keeping like TIBu? I never used CWM to backup or restore.
climo said:
I just finished unlocking and installed the new CWM recovery, just waiting for some roms! About the full system backup with CWM, does is deposit a folder to the SD card I can remove for safe keeping like TIBu? I never used CWM to backup or restore.
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I think that the backup will be found in a Clockwork folder on your sd card. I also think that when you do the backup you will get to choose the destination. Either sd or external sd.
I haven't used the bl unlock or the new ClockworkMod (Just waiting on a nice rom). But that is how it went for me on the previous CWM that didn't require the unlocked bootloader.
Maybe someone who has this newer stuff can shed a little more light on it.
beatphreek said:
One of the good things you can do right now though is to Unlock it, and then install the Clockwork Mod recovery port in the developer's section. You can use that to make full system backup that you can flash.
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Does this essentially create an image of your device? Or does it just back up the firmware?
When CWM backs up ur files it creates a image file of
Boot.img
Cache.img
Data.img
recovery.img
system.img
so yes it does use a image.
Y'all talking about custom ROM's and such, no one seems to care about overcloking.. no one seems to realize what a beast a 1.4ghz Atrix would be.
Viamonte said:
Y'all talking about custom ROM's and such, no one seems to care about overcloking.. no one seems to realize what a beast a 1.4ghz Atrix would be.
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+1.
ROMs will sometimes require you to have the custom kernel associated with them. CM7 for the Captivate comes to mind. With custom kernels, the Captivate was a beast. We had the VooDoo lagfix, which actually made the device usable on bootup. We were able to convert all partitions to ext4, and kind-of make the GPS work.
Overclocking is a possibility too. There's so much that is able to be done. It's a bit difficult coming from an iPhone where customization was limited, even with jailbreaking. But you'll soon get the hang of it.
GPS. Nice point too, but Moto itself promisses improvements on the 2.3.4 OTA. This is the most sorely needed fix for me, since my gps SUCKS. It can take anywhere up to 30 minutos to find my locations. Yes, you read that right.
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GPS. Nice point too, but Moto itself promisses improvements on the 2.3.4 OTA. This is the most sorely needed fix for me, since my gps SUCKS. It can take anywhere up to 30 minutos to find my locations. Yes, you read that right.
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Mine works great. You may have a hardware issue?
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
JayRolla said:
Mine works great. You may have a hardware issue?
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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+2
It shouldn't take that long to lock on. Mine locks on instantly.

[Q] Why do I need fastboot?

Hi All -
New to this phone obviously (RAZR MAXX). Trying to get a grasp on it, as it's way more complicated than HTC and Samsung phones. I've rooted and installed 100s of custom ROMs with those brands before. This is my 1st Motorola since the Motorola V120c if anyone is old enough to remember that dinosaur. On nTelos' network nonetheless.
I have some questions that I would like answered and I hope someone will do me the honor as the content is really sporadic.
What is Fastboot for this device, what does it do?
Safestrap & Bootstrap? What's the difference? Which is better?
Can I flash ROMS through CWM like I have in the past?
What purpose does RSD Lite serve other than to flash Fasboot files?
Why would I want to flash fastboot? (Redundant question I think)
Thanks to anyone that takes the time to help me out.
I rooted and flash the crap out of my last phone which was Samsung. This phone seems really complex. I'm really on my toes, don't want to brick my phone. But I do want to root to get rid of the bloatware and test out some roms. The stock OS is laggy at times.
Honestly I really like the Stock OS as is. It does seem laggy at times, but nothing worse than I've run into on HTC or Samsung phones.
HTC Sense UI was/is terrible since it's so bloated and Samsung couldn't make a GPS radio capable of locating a mall let alone provide directions to anywhere. Terrible phones.
So far this phone is awesome, really bought it for the battery life honestly.
I too would like to DELETE the garbage that Verizon has installed on this thing. In terms of bloat, Verizon takes it to a whole new level. Just wow.
I'm in the same boat. Only had the phone for 2 days so far. I've already rooted it, but haven't gone any farther. But in some of my reading, I thought I saw that removing the bloatware can cause OTA updates to not happen. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on that issue.
midas69 said:
I'm in the same boat. Only had the phone for 2 days so far. I've already rooted it, but haven't gone any farther. But in some of my reading, I thought I saw that removing the bloatware can cause OTA updates to not happen. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on that issue.
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I rooted mine 5 mins after activating it haha. As far a bloat, just use titanium pro and freeze it. Very simple. I froze around 35 apps and haven't had any issues associated w it. Should an ota come I should be prompted still. Just unfreeze all apps. Accept ota, reroot. If it breaks root completly then eventually it will get root again. I actually Ind, e system to run very well but honestly have no idea how just stock runs as I froze these apps instantly. I did not safe strap or bootstrap but I had previous knowledge of things I should be able to freeze and not and I figured it out myself
I find this phone so easy. There YouTube videos on everything.
To Get bootstrap, all you need to do is press one button, this phone has to be the easiest I've been on. The only people that struggle are the desperate ones that cba to search the forums And YouTube
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IdowhatIwant said:
Hi All -
What is Fastboot for this device, what does it do?
Safestrap & Bootstrap? What's the difference? Which is better?
Can I flash ROMS through CWM like I have in the past?
What purpose does RSD Lite serve other than to flash Fasboot files?
Why would I want to flash fastboot? (Redundant question I think)
Thanks to anyone that takes the time to help me out.
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- Fastboot: its just the stock bootloader, can flash moto updates/factory reset/wipe cache. it also lets you into AP fastboot, which is where u recover stock with rsd.
- Safestrap/bootstrap: bootstrap is currently our only way of CWM on the gsm phones, i understand safestrap is pretty much like dualbooting except its not(only its not completely compatible with gsm)
- can you flash with cwm: YES!
- another purpose for rsd: i have only used it for recovering after ics, so idk.
- why flash a fastboot image?: if you mess up badly or get a bootloop you can recover back to stock
midas69 said:
I'm in the same boat. Only had the phone for 2 days so far. I've already rooted it, but haven't gone any farther. But in some of my reading, I thought I saw that removing the bloatware can cause OTA updates to not happen. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on that issue.
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removing bloatware will cause you to be unable to get ota's (freezing and then unfreezing with TiB before ota update works fine, as long as you don't uninstall).
but i think its enough to just flash a fastboot with rsd (fully return to stock), then you can get the ota
Look here:
aashrey99razr.wordpress.com
Helped me out a lot!
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Addictd said:
removing bloatware will cause you to be unable to get ota's (freezing and then unfreezing with TiB before ota update works fine, as long as you don't uninstall).
but i think its enough to just flash a fastboot with rsd (fully return to stock), then you can get the ota
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I'm afraid I deleted one app before I was aware of this. TiB shows that I made a backup of it, but doesn't give me the option to restore it. Guess I'm screwed.
hehe, probably not
did you make a cwm backup prior to uninstalling the app(s)?
then you could just restore that
if not the titanium backup file should be on your internal sdcard in /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup as a gzipped .apk with a kinda cryptic filename
you could try ungzipping it and installing with a file explorer.
or you could just backup with cwm and flash the correct fastbootimage for your phone from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956
usind rsd lite
and that should do it
but why not just flash a fastboot and isntall arctic 3.0.5?
Addictd said:
hehe, probably not
did you make a cwm backup prior to uninstalling the app(s)?
then you could just restore that
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Of course not, that would be too easy
if not the titanium backup file should be on your internal sdcard in /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup as a gzipped .apk with a kinda cryptic filename
you could try ungzipping it and installing with a file explorer.
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There is a file there, but it doesn't have an .apk. There's a gzip file, inside that is a tar file. In there are imbedded data directories, but no actual files.
or you could just backup with cwm and flash the correct fastbootimage for your phone from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956
usind rsd lite
and that should do it
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Might take that route when the next update is ready.
But why not just flash a fastboot and isntall arctic 3.0.5?
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Well, as I said, I only got the phone Saturday, and I work weekends.
But I've got an issue hooking up to my work email account. I was unable to get it working on my Touchpad using CM7 or CM9. I originally bought a Galaxy Nexus and had no luck with that either, thus I bought the Razr. I still can't get the native apps to work, but at least Touchdown semi-works (no Activesync). So I'm actually a little gun shy about trying new things.
Addictd said:
- Safestrap/bootstrap: bootstrap is currently our only way of CWM on the gsm phones, i understand safestrap is pretty much like dualbooting except its not(only its not completely compatible with gsm)
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Does that mean that we can't use ROM Manager or do we just need to use Bootstrap to install CWM and than use ROM Manager like we otherwise would? I got used to that app on my old phone.
I got a GSM RAZR and I have just rooted, the root script pushed in my phone some app called Bionic Bootstrapper, which gives me options Bootstrap Recovery and Reboot Recovery, what does each of them do? I don't plan on changing ROMs for now, but I definitely need to be able to recover the system.
It appears there isn't any real root on this device since the bootloader is locked. Samsung and HTC devices have their BLs unlocked so it's easier to make a permanent Recovery that will persist on reboot. I'm speculating of course, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Reboot recovery should reboot the phone to a ClockworkMod style "DOS" menu that allows you to preform functions like Back up, install zip files or even a new ROM.
When I did it, it rebooted a triangle and exclamation point, with an android guy on it. I was worried at that point. I hit the power button and the Recovery loaded instantly. Not sure if that's normal, but it's quite shakey compared to other devices out there.
I love this phone, so don't me wrong. It's just going to take some getting used to.
i dont think all of rom managers functions will work :/
bootstrap recovery: installs recovery (you only have to do this once)
reboot recovery: reboots your phone into cwm
the thing is the bootloader is locked, so we cant put cwm into the stock fastboot.
there is however a little workaround made by J.Y.Daddy that starts cwm everytime you boot, but this is installed in your rom, not in the stock fastboot, so you have to reinstall it when you flash a new rom :/
onboot cwm link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385283
Addictd said:
i dont think all of rom managers functions will work :/
bootstrap recovery: installs recovery (you only have to do this once)
reboot recovery: reboots your phone into cwm
the thing is the bootloader is locked, so we cant put cwm into the stock fastboot.
there is however a little workaround made by J.Y.Daddy that starts cwm everytime you boot, but this is installed in your rom, not in the stock fastboot, so you have to reinstall it when you flash a new rom :/
onboot cwm link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385283
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Is there some way to otherwise boot into CWM enviroment, some combination of keys or something like on other phones? Not much use for CWM if you brick your phone and can't boot into it. Also, is installed CWM not going to cause a problem for regular OTA updates and do we need to reinstall it afterwards?
From what I understood, Motorola has put some sort of recovery environment on this phone already, but I don't know what it can be used for.
And I have GSM version, bootloader is not locked, so I don't have to worry about that.
laserburn said:
Is there some way to otherwise boot into CWM enviroment, some combination of keys or something like on other phones?
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there's a workaround by J.Y.Darry that makes it boot into cwm on every boot.
there is no keycombo for cwm booting. but you can boot into fastboot with both volumekeys + power
where you can go into stock "recovery" and AP fastboot
you will use AP fastboot in combination with RSD lite to flash back to stock if u mess up, there are also more options in fastboot, but i have never used them.
laserburn said:
Not much use for CWM if you brick your phone and can't boot into it. Also, is installed CWM not going to cause a problem for regular OTA updates and do we need to reinstall it afterwards?
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you will use cwm to flash custom roms and make backups
then if you mess up and want to recover a backup you have to
- set phone in ap fastboot mode
- connect razr to computer
- use rsd lite(or an alternative flashtool) to flash the fastbootfile for your phone
- root and install bootstrapper
- reboot into cwm and restore backup
i dont think cwm in itself will cause any problems for OTA's. but if you install a custom rom its a different story
as long as you have the bootstrapper app installed on your phone, you should be able to bootstrap recovery and boot into cwm
laserburn said:
From what I understood, Motorola has put some sort of recovery environment on this phone already, but I don't know what it can be used for.
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yes they have put a rudimentary recovery in it. but you can only use it to apply updates from sdcard (to manually download ota and install), wipe and factory reset. (someone correct me if i'm wrong here)
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And I have GSM version, bootloader is not locked, so I don't have to worry about that.
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sorry to be the bringer of bad news. but i have gsm too. mine is locked, so i'm pretty solid your bl is too
troollolotorola -.-
Damn, how I miss my old phone where rooting was 1 click on the app and you could swap ROMs as easy as swapping socks.
How could I check if the bootloader is locked and what consequences does it have?
laserburn said:
Damn, how I miss my old phone where rooting was 1 click on the app and you could swap ROMs as easy as swapping socks.
How could I check if the bootloader is locked and what consequences does it have?
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Yeah I agree with you. Rooting, flashing, CWM all 100 times easier on HTC and Samsung phones.
Don't get wrong though, I Love my RAZR Maxx, and the default OS is actually OK. Which is good because it seems that there is little to zero developement for the CDMA version of the droid RAZR/MAXX at the moment, if at all.
they're all over on the HTC/Sammy forums =D
laserburn said:
Damn, how I miss my old phone where rooting was 1 click on the app and you could swap ROMs as easy as swapping socks.
How could I check if the bootloader is locked and what consequences does it have?
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if/when we get the BL unlocked this phone will be a dream
there is this utility made by mattlgrof u can use to check bl lock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486718
IdowhatIwant said:
Yeah I agree with you. Rooting, flashing, CWM all 100 times easier on HTC and Samsung phones.
Don't get wrong though, I Love my RAZR Maxx, and the default OS is actually OK. Which is good because it seems that there is little to zero developement for the CDMA version of the droid RAZR/MAXX at the moment, if at all.
they're all over on the HTC/Sammy forums =D
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Ain't no agruing with that, but they don't make as sweet looking and solid phones i hope motorola pull their head out of their ass soon...
Development for the cdma version is found mostly on droidrzr.com (plenty of beta/alpha ICS and some GB roms) but they are missing some parts, so we have to wait till motorola release ics be4 they will be complete.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/index
for all you non-cdma users out there, u should check out the cdma to gsm patch
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/1233-cdma-port-cm9aokp-givesomelovetogsm/

Rom Manager Not Working

I just recently rooted my Verizon Galaxy S4 and swiftly installed Rom Manager. I have used ROM manager in the past before I owned an iPhone when the Moto Droids were popular. Upon installing I flashed the recovery over to CWM - However, when I reboot into recovery I still receive the default stock options. I even purchased the CWM Touch recovery to see if that would work, sadly it did not.
I am stuck as to what to do here, I have googled the problem and cannot seem to find a cure. I can not do anything with CWM - When I click backup current ROM it simply reboots into the stock recovery.
If anyone can help me with this issue I would be extremely appreciated
Thanks,
Christopher
Reneg4d3 said:
I just recently rooted my Verizon Galaxy S4 and swiftly installed Rom Manager. I have used ROM manager in the past before I owned an iPhone when the Moto Droids were popular. Upon installing I flashed the recovery over to CWM - However, when I reboot into recovery I still receive the default stock options. I even purchased the CWM Touch recovery to see if that would work, sadly it did not.
I am stuck as to what to do here, I have googled the problem and cannot seem to find a cure. I can not do anything with CWM - When I click backup current ROM it simply reboots into the stock recovery.
If anyone can help me with this issue I would be extremely appreciated
Thanks,
Christopher
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Did you remember to go to Rom Manager > Recovery Setup > Click ClockworkMod Recovery (Under INSTALL OR UPDATE RECOVERY) > Then click on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (Verizon).
Yes, since that is the only way to download and install the recovery that is what I did...
You might want to email the developer or get a mod to move this thread to the Q&A forum.
DarkMenace said:
You might want to email the developer or get a mod to move this thread to the Q&A forum.
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I will email the developer the link to this thread.
Surely I am not the only one with this problem...
Reneg4d3 said:
I will email the developer the link to this thread.
Surely I am not the only one with this problem...
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I was able to flash it with no issues.
Do you mind telling me exactly what you did (even rooting wise) - I used some compiled package that was on droid life I believe. It had all the tools compiled and was the closest thing to a one click without being one click. I think it even attempted to flash the recovery. However, that is how I rooted my device. I didn't flash another rom. Still on the stock rom.
I just rooted the device. Switched to SuperSU, restored all my programs via Titanium Backup. Then I flashed CWM.
DarkMenace said:
I just rooted the device. Switched to SuperSU, restored all my programs via Titanium Backup. Then I flashed CWM.
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I have read conflicting posts about this but is your bootloader unlocked? I read that the bootloader was unlocked before the phone was even released - Then I read somewhere else that the Verizon bootloader was super locked down and not cracked yet. Obviously, you would need some bootstrap or the bootloader unlocked before the device would even be able to use a custom ROM. Did you flash the phone to get root, or did you use all kinds of different tools to do so?
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this is the method I used - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41718543
Reneg4d3 said:
I have read conflicting posts about this but is your bootloader unlocked? I read that the bootloader was unlocked before the phone was even released - Then I read somewhere else that the Verizon bootloader was super locked down and not cracked yet. Obviously, you would need some bootstrap or the bootloader unlocked before the device would even be able to use a custom ROM. Did you flash the phone to get root, or did you use all kinds of different tools to do so?
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this is the method I used - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41718543
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That's the same method I used but I didn't unlock the bootloader. I just did the root them installed the recovery from the Play Store.
Reneg4d3 said:
I have read conflicting posts about this but is your bootloader unlocked? I read that the bootloader was unlocked before the phone was even released - Then I read somewhere else that the Verizon bootloader was super locked down and not cracked yet. Obviously, you would need some bootstrap or the bootloader unlocked before the device would even be able to use a custom ROM. Did you flash the phone to get root, or did you use all kinds of different tools to do so?
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this is the method I used - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41718543
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Please read about loki in the development forum. The bootloader is not unlocked and unlock is not needed to flash roms or recoveries.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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I will read about loki - maybe when I read about loki this will be explained, however I was always under the impression that in order to install custom ROMs you have to unlock the bootloader. I know that a bootloader or bootstrap is what tells your device what operating system to boot to and if it is locked this prevents you from loading a custom ROM. If I have this all wrong, would someone care to explain? You can use technical explanations as I will most likely be able to understand what you mean.
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reading about loki clears this up. It's simply (yet sophisticatedly) tricks the aboot into thinking the rom passes the checksum that is physically embedded into the phone and proceeds to boot the custom rom. The boot loader itself is still locked, but is bypassed.
The only problem with this is they can release an update to patch the sequence in which the checksum is done so that it cannot be loaded over itself.
My problem still remains - Clockwork Manager is not working.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Questions and help issues go in Q&A and help section
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Sorry I posted it in the wrong section. If anyone knows what is wrong please let me know, I am thoroughly confused as to why this is happening. Maybe I should restore stock and reroot the device, although I don't know what that would do.
Am I supposed to install Loki? Because I never did that, I was under the impression that rom manager would do that.
Reneg4d3 said:
Sorry I posted it in the wrong section. If anyone knows what is wrong please let me know, I am thoroughly confused as to why this is happening. Maybe I should restore stock and reroot the device, although I don't know what that would do.
Am I supposed to install Loki? Because I never did that, I was under the impression that rom manager would do that.
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Do a stock restore. Then root again. Start over.
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I cleared the Clockwork Mod data and also uninstalled and reinstalled the app and now it is working Guess it was just a fluke!

[Q] Installing CM-10.2 Android-4.3

Hey guys, I've rooted, installed CWM Recovery, Unlocked Bootloader, and installed CyanogenMod on another phone before.
The thing is, I've had this phone for about 6 months and wanted to do the same. However, after browsing through the forums, man are there a lot of scary sh*t going down. I would like the request the procedure to install CyanogenMod safely, without losing any Keys/IMEI/XReality/DRMkeys/Etcetera.
I dont know if the method given by FXP is supposed to be this straight forward, but I too like others, do not want to risk losing important stuff if it can be avoided (Keys/IMEI/XReality/DRMkeys/Etcetera).
HOWTO
Install instructions:
first time
- power off the phone:
- hold vol+ and plug usb to boot into fastboot (blu led)
- fastboot flash boot boot.img (from cm10 zip)
- fastboot reboot
- enter recovery, on boot led will be violet for 3'', during this period press vol+
- flash rom zip
- flash gapps zip
- wipe
- reboot
for update just flash rom zip from recovery
Google Apps are not included in this ROM. You'll need to find those yourself if you want them.
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Frankly speaking, the forums is pretty much jumbled up, and the existing [Guide] Threads are either incomplete (Lacking important steps), or Unclear (Non-Specific steps).
Perhaps someone could do me a favour by using the template that I have below to help me, and possibly others, to install CM 10.2 on our beast of a phone.
Template:
1. Backup TA and DRMkeys and stuff: http://forum-xda-developers-com/backup
2. Root: http://forum-xda-developers-com/root
3. Recovery : http://forum-xda-developers-com/recovery
4: Unlock Bootloader: http://forum-xda-developers-com/ulbl
5: Install FXP's CM 10.2 :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461286
Something like that would suffice I think, as long as no important steps are missing that would cause me to lose stuff unique to my phone, that cannot be recovered if I didn't back it up.
P.S. My version is 14.1.B.2.257
P.P.S. Thank you in advance.
1. Root
2. Backup TA (VERY IMPORTANT)
3. Install Recovery and unlock the bootloader, or the other way around. Both ways work.
4. Install ROM by following the "guide" that you quoted above.
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I'm on 14.1.B.2.257, I believe reverting to the previous version causes data to be lost unless you back it up right. *Sighs* How troublesome.
Xenogenics said:
I'm on 14.1.B.2.257, I believe reverting to the previous version causes data to be lost unless you back it up right. *Sighs* How troublesome.
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you will have to back up the data anyways. I think unlocking the bootloader does a factory reset, as well one is needed going from stock to CM if i unforget correctly
I am also wondering about this. I'm currently running firmware .257.
I understand that I need to back up the TA partition first (though I'm not exactly sure on what I will loose if I don't). I also understand that to do this I need to root the stock rom. I understand that in order to root, I'll need to first downgrade to an earlier firmware using flashtool. However, after that I'm not so sure what I need to do. As far as I can see, the only method of gaining root currently is to use vRoot, which is currently under investigation for IMEI mining.
How else can I root the device? I was thinking of maybe using the recovery for locked bootloaders here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
Following by flashing SuperSU from recovery as per usual.
Will this work, keeping the TA partition intact so that I can back it up before flashing CM? Assuming so, would I even need to downgrade from the .257 firmware at all?
Thanks,
i have CWM now so can flash custom roms like i did on other phones right?
what does unlocking the bootloader give me? unless i'm wrong and i have to unlock to flash?
all i've done so far is do a backup is all. (did a TA backup a while back though)
stiggy2012 said:
I am also wondering about this. I'm currently running firmware .257.
I understand that I need to back up the TA partition first (though I'm not exactly sure on what I will loose if I don't). I also understand that to do this I need to root the stock rom. I understand that in order to root, I'll need to first downgrade to an earlier firmware using flashtool. However, after that I'm not so sure what I need to do. As far as I can see, the only method of gaining root currently is to use vRoot, which is currently under investigation for IMEI mining.
How else can I root the device? I was thinking of maybe using the recovery for locked bootloaders here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
Following by flashing SuperSU from recovery as per usual.
Will this work, keeping the TA partition intact so that I can back it up before flashing CM? Assuming so, would I even need to downgrade from the .257 firmware at all?
Thanks,
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OK, so looking into this further, you already need to have root to be able to flash the "CWM for locked bootloader" rocovery. So as far as I can see, the only way to get root in order to back up the TA partition is to give your IMEI to the Chinese via vRoot?
Thank god the stock rom is so good.
tommo123 said:
i have CWM now so can flash custom roms like i did on other phones right?
what does unlocking the bootloader give me? unless i'm wrong and i have to unlock to flash?
all i've done so far is do a backup is all. (did a TA backup a while back though)
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You have to unlock the bootloader to flash custom ROMs. You can flash stock ROMs without unlocking it, but you have to unlock it if you want CM, PAC, PA etc.
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really, so what would happen if i tried to flash an aosp rom now? would the system partition essentially be read only?
sorry for the Qs but haven't had a locked bootloader since the htc desire (although the s-off for that one was to remap the partitions to allow more room for data) and the reasons for unlocking don't seem to be the same.
tommo123 said:
really, so what would happen if i tried to flash an aosp rom now? would the system partition essentially be read only?
sorry for the Qs but haven't had a locked bootloader since the htc desire (although the s-off for that one was to remap the partitions to allow more room for data) and the reasons for unlocking don't seem to be the same.
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Nothing will happen if you try it now. You can easily unlock the bootloader by going to Sony's Dev site, request your key and use Flashtool to unlock it. It takes a couple of minutes once you have Flashtool and the drivers installed. It's also perfectly safe to unlock it and you will lose your warranty. BUT you can easily relock it again if something happens to your ZU and the warrenty will be back.
Remember to backup your TA before you unlock your bootloader. It contains a lot if device info and your unique DRM keys. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe the system partition, but you will still have root, photos, music etc. (But do a backup of those just in case).
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i think that's where i got confused with drivers - unlocking.
i have already done a backup of my TA part so that side of it is ok. i'll leave unlocking until there's a rom i want to try. possibly a complete 4.4 or something.
cheers LM
tommo123 said:
i think that's where i got confused with drivers - unlocking.
i have already done a backup of my TA part so that side of it is ok. i'll leave unlocking until there's a rom i want to try. possibly a complete 4.4 or something.
cheers LM
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If you've already backed up your TA, it means that you have the drivers installed, so job done All you have to do is to install Flashtool and get your key from Sony (which you will get on your email straight away). Either way, just ask here if/when you want to unlock it so we can guide you through it (it's very easy though).
ran flashtool but gave me driver errors - missing. unable to install the drivers included (i guess due to windows 8 driver signing)

[Q] Damaged Recovery Partition / How to repair or replace

Greetings.
My recovery function is completely broken on my phone.
My Galaxy S4 is rooted, was on latest CM with CWM recovery installed. All was well... until I issued a shell command I saw on-line in a dev conf, 'dd' with parameters, and the recovery partition no longer boots. Device is functional expect for recovery mode. Attempts to go into recovery mode just dump into ODIN with "Cannot boot normally" line. Normal boots are fine. ODIN does work but attempt to write any recovery programs just fail.
I have since installed a number of recovery items like CWM, TWRP and even one for locked bootloaders, and all say they installed but none of them work. I am able to use ABD without issue and I have switched back to the Samsung stock rom (rooted) until I get this addressed.
I have not been able to locate a way using ABD to reinstall the recovery partition.
My guess is that the 'dd' command I executed changed the load point for the recovery partition or damaged something in the partition. I need to know how to completely reinstall (format I guess) the partition to make it usable again.
This one is a stumper. I have used rooted phones and customer ROMs for years and as you know without recovery you are pretty much stuck. I want to go back to using CM but it updates a lot and I can't install any updates.
Any help is most appreciated.
Using Odin to go back to the stock firmware should overwrite whatever you did to the recovery partition. As far as the 'dd' commands go, it depends on which variant of the S4 you have, which is probably where you messed up at. The Exynos versions and Snapdragon models have the recovery partition in different spots.
(i9505) dd if=/sdcard/recoveryfilename.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p21
(i9500) dd if=/sdcard/recoveryfilename.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p10
Thank you.. that makes sense. I will reload if necessary.
Question.... Do you think I could reissue the correct DD command for my phone?
I have the US Verizon version of the I545. I don't know how to find that, but I have nothing to lose I guess.
bthye said:
Thank you.. that makes sense. I will reload if necessary.
Question.... Do you think I could reissue the correct DD command for my phone?
I have the US Verizon version of the I545. I don't know how to find that, but I have nothing to lose I guess.
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You would use the one for the Snapdragon/LTE version - i9505 though since you have a Verizon version - that explains it. The bootloader is locked unless you're still on an older 4.2.2 update and took the steps to keep it unlocked while upgrading.
es0tericcha0s said:
You would use the one for the Snapdragon/LTE version - i9505 though since you have a Verizon version - that explains it. The bootloader is locked unless you're still on an older 4.2.2 update and took the steps to keep it unlocked while upgrading.
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Ok, this is all starting to make sense now. I think I did use the wrong one, killed the recovery partition, then when I upgraded to the latest stock it locked the bootloader. What a mess! I see now why I had so much trouble finding info on this. This would be a pretty rare problem.
I will reload everything, but am I stuck with a locked bootloader again? ie No work around this time?
If so I will use one of the recoveries designed for locked. I used on prior and it worked fine.
My goal is to get back to the latest CM and be able to update often.
My thanks again for the great assistance here!
bthye said:
Ok, this is all starting to make sense now. I think I did use the wrong one, killed the recovery partition, then when I upgraded to the latest stock it locked the bootloader. What a mess! I see now why I had so much trouble finding info on this. This would be a pretty rare problem.
I will reload everything, but am I stuck with a locked bootloader again? ie No work around this time?
If so I will use one of the recoveries designed for locked. I used on prior and it worked fine.
My goal is to get back to the latest CM and be able to update often.
My thanks again for the great assistance here!
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If you updated via Odin to anything past 4.2.2 MDK, then you are really out of luck since it is not possible to load CM on locked bootloader / Safestrap recovery due to not being able to load custom kernels. I find Hyperdrive to be a good TouchWiz rom, if you don't have any other options.

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