WWDC 2012 -- Apple's Copycat Conference. - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Anyone watching the LiveBlog for the WWDC 2012 on Engadget?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-wwdc-2012-liveblog/
iOS 6 for iPhone is showing few things that HTC currently has, and has had for a while. It's pretty humorous.

What I want to know is why doesn't HTC patent the stuff then? If Apple can patent the shape of a laptop or opening a youtube app link then why can't HTC patent their customizations?

I saw they can now send a text message when you can't answer the phone..Holy cow that's innovation.
They can also send pics from their galley straight to Facebook now.AHHHMAAZING
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BrianBaker said:
I saw they can now send a test message when you can't answer the phone..Holy cow that's innovation.
They can also send pics from their galley straight to Facebook now.AHHHMAAZING
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Yeah, and the new feature I saw in Sense 4 where you can remind yourself to call someone later... Yeah, I guess Apple "re-invented" that...

wow, no kidding. HTC could deny that thing for ages. how are they going to find a work around for all those things??? lol hit em w/ it htc!

At least apple actually releases the OS updates to all of their users without requiring them to jailbreak/root...
*continues slamming the update button on his Incredible 2*

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At least apple actually releases the OS updates to all of their users without requiring them to jailbreak/root...
*continues slamming the update button on his Incredible 2*
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Yeah, if there's one thing they do right, it's that.

What I love is all the apple lovers thought they were getting a new iPhone today, SORRY no iPhone 5 today! Lmao
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PharmCAT said:
At least apple actually releases the OS updates to all of their users without requiring them to jailbreak/root...
*continues slamming the update button on his Incredible 2*
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Let's not forget some updates killed older devices
The LTEVO says hello!

Haha I was bored so I watched a live stream of it. I actually laughed several times when they talked about something we have been able to do for a long time and the crowd goes nuts like Jesus's return was just announced.
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Some people get happy just to satisfy their purchase
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Love how Apple is pretty much copy and pasting from Google Maps into their own software. 3D maps and all. And who the hell wants to navigate from their lockscreen?
Still, wondering how this will effect Google maps traffic/revenue. But yeah, it's pretty humorous to see the stuff they tout as groundbreaking or new. "Safari is the most popular browser in the world."

Doomstang said:
Haha I was bored so I watched a live stream of it. I actually laughed several times when they talked about something we have been able to do for a long time and the crowd goes nuts like Jesus's return was just announced.
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They cheered because now they can go to their Android friends and be like, "Look, our phone is just as good now." (Still isn't even close to 'as good')

kidstechno said:
Still, wondering how this will effect Google maps traffic/revenue. But yeah, it's pretty humorous to see the stuff they tout as groundbreaking or new. "Safari is the most popular browser in the world."
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I'm sure it is...on apple products. Lol
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I think that most of these things that Apple is stealing from Android has more to do with the Android OS than it does HTC or Sense. So, I would think that Google would have to patent these things, yet can't because they're open source. Is that correct?

PharmCAT said:
At least apple actually releases the OS updates to all of their users without requiring them to jailbreak/root...
*continues slamming the update button on his Incredible 2*
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Well its a lot easier to roll updates for a company that only makes one type of phone, as to how many different types of android phones there are. So apple will always beat android in that category of updates.
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So not only are they "stealing" from android but google themselves with their "VIP" mailbox which google put out a couple month's ago for gmail Lmao.
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Rydah805 said:
wow, no kidding. HTC could deny that thing for ages. how are they going to find a work around for all those things??? lol hit em w/ it htc!
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.....one problem with this......HTC would have to be on top of their game and of submitted for a patent on said innovation...
Sad thing is Apple comes out with these things they have patents submitted for ages ago....
Hopefully HTC has something to lock this up....though I doubt it

wow! i just went and looked thru the liveblog briefing and i cant believe all the BS that they feed out and brain wash the masses. i feel so disgusted.
heres a few that i just copied and paste that made me go wtf? r u sirious?
as mentioned about
"Next up is Safari. Safari is the best and most popular web browser on the planet."
"Audience is eating this up. We heard a few "wows" and "Google Maps is screwed" comments."
"iOS 6 with 200 new features added to the world's best mobile operating system."
"It's the best OS X yet."
"OS X Mountain Lion, the ninth major release of the world's best desktop operating system."

PharmCAT said:
At least apple actually releases the OS updates to all of their users without requiring them to jailbreak/root...
*continues slamming the update button on his Incredible 2*
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When there's only three phones that are almost identical its not hard to keep them updated.
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Related

Even Woz thinks Android is a threat to apple's empire

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/14/even-woz-thinks-the-android-bests-the-iphone.html
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Transformer? What type of phone is that?
oohaylima said:
Transformer? What type of phone is that?
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its a tablet. lol
tuscani1821 said:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/14/even-woz-thinks-the-android-bests-the-iphone.html
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Very Interesting article. I especially like the part about Siri not being able to used when it cannot reach an internet signal. Im currently on a business trip with my father and he has the iphone 4s and he repeatedly tried to have Siri call one of his employees while we were on the road. All she did was apoligize that she could not complete the action. All Siri is really good for is a party trick. I would take my android any day over his Iphone.
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Very Interesting article. I especially like the part about Siri not being able to used when it cannot reach an internet signal. Im currently on a business trip with my father and he has the iphone 4s and he repeatedly tried to have Siri call one of his employees while we were on the road. All she did was apoligize that she could not complete the action. All Siri is really good for is a party trick. I would take my android any day over his Iphone.
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Most Android voice recognition can't be used without signal, either.
SolsticeZero said:
Most Android voice recognition can't be used without signal, either.
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I have noticed that mine works in a lot of places that Siri doesn't though. It will be interesting to see how well google's version of Siri will be when it launches.
Jraw23 said:
Very Interesting article. I especially like the part about Siri not being able to used when it cannot reach an internet signal. Im currently on a business trip with my father and he has the iphone 4s and he repeatedly tried to have Siri call one of his employees while we were on the road. All she did was apoligize that she could not complete the action. All Siri is really good for is a party trick. I would take my android any day over his Iphone.
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I agree that siri is just a gimmick. But most consumers love gimmicks, which the article does point out but more specifically how ios is geared towards the tech illiterate
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sgt. slaughter said:
its a tablet. lol
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Lol Got me.
I dunno.. I love Wozniak. But he drops the same line that other apple pacifists always annoyed me with.
"I wish my iPhone does what android does"
Well.... Then get an android!
felacio said:
I dunno.. I love Wozniak. But he drops the same line that other apple pacifists always annoyed me with.
"I wish my iPhone does what android does"
Well.... Then get an android!
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Yea. If the iPhone did what Android does, what would be the point?
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It was nice to see the co-founder of Apple not rage on Android how Jobs used to. At least he acknowledged the flaws of both.
Nsandhu23 said:
It was nice to see the co-founder of Apple not rage on Android how Jobs used to. At least he acknowledged the flaws of both.
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Well thats easy... Because the Woz isn't a sociopath. Lol. There have been numerous studies that show that many CEO's or extremely successful people have sociopathic tendencies.
...scary when you think about it.
felacio said:
There have been numerous studies that show that many CEO's or extremely successful people have sociopathic tendencies.
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Can you cite any of these articles? Just curious because I have access to a great number of databases in the medical, psychological and sociology fields and I did a quick search for sociopath and CEO and didn't find a single article.
ExploreMN said:
Can you cite any of these articles? Just curious because I have access to a great number of databases in the medical, psychological and sociology fields and I did a quick search for sociopath and CEO and didn't find a single article.
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https://www.google.com/#q=sociopath....,cf.osb&fp=783523947f19e669&biw=1069&bih=568
ExploreMN said:
Can you cite any of these articles? Just curious because I have access to a great number of databases in the medical, psychological and sociology fields and I did a quick search for sociopath and CEO and didn't find a single article.
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http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/436/the-psychopath-test
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/15...17145&creative=399349&creativeASIN=1594488010
http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828/ref=pd_sim_b_1
http://www.newstoday.com.bd/index.php?option=details&news_id=47203&date=2011-12-16
Hell, if you read the Steve Jobs Biography he comes off as a borderline Sociopath in his early years and many times again in his life.
Why does people still care what woz has to say? The old apple man that just goes around getting paid to show off what he had bought with the same money many people gives him says something and whether its in favor to android or not.... It doesn't matter.....
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Funny. Anyone remembers the times of the G1 and how android was made fun off? Ahh memories.
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I still have my g1 LOL at the 50MB of free int mem ......how far android has come ....
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I love reading articles like that. It's funny to talk to die-hard iPhone fans because all they do is say "Well, my phone is still better." They'll take it to the grave that the iPhone is the best phone on the market, but when it comes to people that really matter and look at both products and see where Android succeeds over iOS (Woz), it just makes every iPhone fanboy sound stupid.

New Google Policies

Okay... soo uhh I feel really uncomfortable even though I really love my phone... I might be heading back to my blackberry after this...
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/318518
Gross... Smh. I hate the internet sometimes. Ridiculous. Yahoo... Here I come.... I guess
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rbaruch said:
Okay... soo uhh I feel really uncomfortable even though I really love my phone... I might be heading back to my blackberry after this...
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/318518
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Hope you don't use Facebook. You'll REALLY freak out.
Wtf google. Dangerous move.
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marleyfan61 said:
Hope you don't use Facebook. You'll REALLY freak out.
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+1. Especially if you load all of "your" pics to their site.
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Get off the internet entirely then. This is inevitable and bound to eventually happen. You can avoid android, google, gmail, but there will always be another site you use that do the exact same thing your trying to avoid. (Facebook? bing? Yahoo? etc... )
Your fighting an already lost war.
apple has been caught doing worse to their consumers, WP7 has complete "crap" you are agreeing to when you first start your phone up, but obviously nobody reads all of it. now google yaaaaay. looks like blackberry will be the only protected OS, along with whatever Nokia is working on. cant wait for BB10
Maybe I am missing something here but I fail to see why this is a bad thing. Sure they collect and store your information but its to better serve you as the user across all of their services.
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stratax said:
apple has been caught doing worse to their consumers, WP7 has complete "crap" you are agreeing to when you first start your phone up, but obviously nobody reads all of it. now google yaaaaay. looks like blackberry will be the only protected OS, along with whatever Nokia is working on. cant wait for BB10
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Honestly considering moving back to blackberry...
BB10 looks to be huge, not to mention I'm reaally missing RIMs policies + security features..
Sorry bud, but Google's taking over the world.
Might as well be on their side when it happens
rbaruch said:
Honestly considering moving back to blackberry...
BB10 looks to be huge, not to mention I'm reaally missing RIMs policies + security features..
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Blackberry will be glad to hear this. They're struggling right now.
The unified policy doesn't bother me. Facebook is really worrying though.
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craigtut said:
Maybe I am missing something here but I fail to see why this is a bad thing. Sure they collect and store your information but its to better serve you as the user across all of their services.
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So Big Brother watching over is ok with some I guess. It's not "bad," it's invasive. Who's to say Google won't start selling my search profile to marketing teams to start spamming? If it's to help serve us, why isn't it optional? Who really thinks Google isn't good enough as it is? There is no reason for this. Facebook tried something similar yrs ago when I was on that site, but everyone revolted so they changed their mind.
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marleyfan61 said:
Blackberry will be glad to hear this. They're struggling right now.
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That's because they haven't made a great device since the Curve 8900. Lol. They do have the best security though
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Well mind you, people can't see your information since all of them are tied together using a program that will pick your likes and output it to you. Unless they made an internal program within google company to sift through all those data just to grab some dirt on a politician or something...... Are you a politician? IF not, then you got nothing to worry about....
mcs117 said:
Well mind you, people can't see your information since all of them are tied together using a program that will pick your likes and output it to you. Unless they made an internal program within google company to sift through all those data just to grab some dirt on a politician or something...... Are you a politician? IF not, then you got nothing to worry about....
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I suppose. I wish I were a great legal mind so I could see it for what it really is. I hate being tricked and have become used to being tricked... #paranoid
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glacierguy said:
Facebook tried something similar yrs ago when I was on that site, but everyone revolted so they changed their mind.
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Tried? They do that now! Have been.
I am not a lawyer but I'm still not seeing how merging privacy policies gives Google more data. I would think they had the data before, it's one company.
Personally I was a freaked out more by the Google DART cookie setup a few years back. When Google basically said we are going to have this cookie on your computer tracking what you do. Since so many sites use Google Analytics, Google AdSense, etc. that means they know a lot about what you do even outside of Google sites. Since you can't really "log-out" of Google services on your Android phone I've always wondered how much they track.
Google ad opt out add on, moved email to hushmail and deleted contacts. I win.. unless they truly don't delete stuff. If not that should be illegal.
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djdanska said:
Tried? They do that now! Have been.
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Smh I hate Facebook lol
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Apple blocking imports of HTC phones.

So, has anyone seen this? I hope Steve would be proud. This temp ban is ridiculous. Glad most of the devs for their hands on the one x, but block the new evo from even being released is going too far. I hate apple....
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Yeah, pretty crazy. Too bad HTC doesn't have the legal heavy weight that Samsung has, or they would have been able to work something out. Apple sucks. Shutting down imports due to "pinch to zoom" or something equally rediculous.
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I read something like that about a year ago. Is there anything to back it up? I know nothing came of it previously.
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its for clicking links in the text app. If you're running sense 4 go ahead and try it.. the hyperlinks and phone numbers are blue but clicking them does nothing. htc removed this because of apples bull**** patent
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JeramyEggs said:
So, has anyone seen this? I hope Steve would be proud. This temp ban is ridiculous. Glad most of the devs for their hands on the one x, but block the new evo from even being released is going too far. I hate apple....
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Link, please?
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EmerikL said:
Link, please?
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The story is in Engadget. Check over the last few days.
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Did someone patent the Internet yet? I'm going to apply for that.
Omg I want to burn that place to the f*king ground with everyone inside! I was wondering why text links and phone numbers weren't working. Steve jobs dying just wasn't enough
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/15/htc-one-x-and-evo-4g-lte-delayed-at-customs-due-to-itc-exclusio/
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Omg I want to burn that place to the f*king ground with everyone inside! I was wondering why text links and phone numbers weren't working. Steve jobs dying just wasn't enough
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Yikes. I don't care for Apple personally, but I certainly don't wish death upon anyone.
If they really have patents on their technology, then they are doing the right thing by protecting their intellectual property. You just can't go around stealing other peoples stuff. I'm not saying HTC or Samsung or anyone else stole anything, just saying that IF they did - then they are facing their consequences.
The Patent War has gotten out of control with ALL the manufactures. Just seems this is the first that has actually stopped a device in its tracks. All this patent stuff is BS I would hate having the job of making sure a device doesn't infringe on one of Apples, Samsungs, Motorola, Googles, etc's patents. I would be willing to be that just about any device would infringe on some patented somewhere.
BTW I'm currently Patenting how I tie my shoes SO WATCH OUT..
My old blackberrys from back in the day had this feature far before the iPhone. Who grants these patents.
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zone23 said:
The Patent War has gotten out of control with ALL the manufactures. Just seems this is the first that has actually stopped a device in its tracks. All this patent stuff is BS I would hate having the job of making sure a device doesn't infringe on one of Apples, Samsungs, Motorola, Googles, etc's patents. I would be willing to be that just about any device would infringe on some patented somewhere.
BTW I'm currently Patenting how I tie my shoes SO WATCH OUT..
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It has gotten out of control. Something so minor should not be enough to block a shipment. Plus, that is a feature BUILT into Android, so they should not be after HTC but Google for that. I think devices that have skins can be attacked more because they added those patent violating features themselves vs. just building from google's source.
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My old blackberrys from back in the day had this feature far before the iPhone. Who grants these patents.
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blackhand1001 said:
My old blackberrys from back in the day had this feature far before the iPhone. Who grants these patents.
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The patent they are talking about was applied for back in 1996 and granted in 1999. It is for clicking on a recognizable text string and bringing up a menu or performing a UI action. So, yes, clicking on a telephone number will no longer bring up the dialer, or clicking on an email address will not bring up the email app, etc. Which I think is ****ing bull****. It's common sense that when I click on a telephone number it brings up the dialer. Who wouldnt think of that? I didnt think things that were blatantly obvious were patentable. But I guess if you're crApple you can get anything patented.
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The patent they are talking about was applied for back in 1996 and granted in 1999. It is for clicking on a recognizable text string and bringing up a menu or performing a UI action. So, yes, clicking on a telephone number will no longer bring up the dialer, or clicking on an email address will not bring up the email app, etc. Which I think is ****ing bull****. It's common sense that when I click on a telephone number it brings up the dialer. Who wouldnt think of that? I didnt think things that were blatantly obvious were patentable. But I guess if you're crApple you can get anything patented.
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real question is how did they remove this, so the devs can add it back.
thats what we do best here.
I'm sure the judge has an iPhone and they probably pay him off with free iproducts for life to find in their favor. That's how apple wins
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badogg said:
Yikes. I don't care for Apple personally, but I certainly don't wish death upon anyone.
If they really have patents on their technology, then they are doing the right thing by protecting their intellectual property. You just can't go around stealing other peoples stuff. I'm not saying HTC or Samsung or anyone else stole anything, just saying that IF they did - then they are facing their consequences.
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This patent crap has gotten out of control. This is basically how computers work.
Imagine on your home computer, clicking on a link in xda and it doesn't open, just highlights it, then you have to copy and paste to go to that page.
Why would apple be given a patent for this? Its ridiculous and HTC has ALREADY removed the feature from their phones so the fact that they are still blocking them is asinine.
http://www.dailytech.com/Game+Over+...uition+as+ITC+Blocks+Imports/article24691.htm
That's a more informative article talking about the actual patents and the absurdity of this whole situation... Apple really disgusts me...
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This patent crap has gotten out of control. This is basically how computers work.
Imagine on your home computer, clicking on a link in xda and it doesn't open, just highlights it, then you have to copy and paste to go to that page.
Why would apple be given a patent for this? Its ridiculous and HTC has ALREADY removed the feature from their phones so the fact that they are still blocking them is asinine.
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Oh I agree, but that is for the courts to decide. I think it needs to be more in-depth. Like prove that the programming code was stolen or something. Not just that the end result is the same. Kind of like prescription drugs. There are the brand names that have the rights to it, and then there are generics that are the same thing but branded differently.

The Waiting Room - Off-Topic Chat

While we're waiting for our phones, I thought I would start a thread where we could just talk without worrying about going off-topic. If you want to talk about how other phones compare to the Evo, rant about rotten fruit and the vegetables that use them, etc, than this is the place.
Just please remember that all of the forum rules still apply here though.
New EVO LTE feature just announced!
I just received my EVO LTE today, It seems that it was shipped with the new stealth invisibility feature enabled by default...Nice feature, huh?
Vinchenzop said:
Considering Google just got the go ahead to buy Motorola (and it's patents)...this could get interesting.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...rola-deal-expected-to-be-finalized-next-week/
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Now that is going to be awesome!!
Is there any writer, reporter here in XDA to start a petition or something so we can ALL sign. Don't you guys think it would be a great IDEA to voice it out our opinions? I am just thinking how big XDA network is, Dev's who started from here still on Android now have there own site can always get the word to them as well..
Can someone call this Guys already
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I just received my EVO LTE today, It seems that it was shipped with the new stealth invisibility feature enabled by default...Nice feature, huh?
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Hey off topic but what kind of case is that?? I've been searching for a clear one to no avail!
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Clear case
fhnguyen said:
Hey off topic but what kind of case is that?? I've been searching for a clear one to no avail!
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/23079101275...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1745wt_1163
$4.99
Should look something like this but even better if it ever arrives.
alchemist316 said:
Yup more than Exxon, google has about half the spending cash as apple
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You're crazy.
Exxxon, Shell are the biggest companies in the world by revenue.
I saw this posted on AC. Thought it might lighten the mood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhq-CurxORE&feature=youtu.be
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mrshades812 said:
I saw this posted on AC. Thought it might lighten the mood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhq-CurxORE&feature=youtu.be
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Lol nice video..
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exSD said:
You're crazy.
Exxxon, Shell are the biggest companies in the world by revenue.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottde... apple is near half trillion total market cap
A little factoid.
Smartphone adoption fastest in the US than any other device in history
http://www.mobilebloom.com/smartpho...-us-than-any-other-device-in-history/2213748/
Disregard - wrong package
Just wanted to say a quick hey to my fellow EVO enthusiasts! This is my first of hopefully many posts in the LTE forum. Coming from the OG EVO. I've rooted, unrooted, rooted again, flashed crashed and bashed. Really looking forward to this new phone! Here's hoping good news on Monday! See ya soon!
Started this thread "2nd January 2012, 02:14 AM"......The Force is with you xHausx!
Did anybody see last nights NASCAR race with the fourteen million signs saying EVO 4G LTE....pissed me off lol
Gordon Ramsay said:
Did anybody see last nights NASCAR race with the fourteen million signs saying EVO 4G LTE....pissed me off lol
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saw it. watch them all here every week. What I thought was funnier was the phone they were using in the Speed social media center(social garage) was the Samsung Epic 4G Touch...least thats what it looked like when R. Wood was showing off the Nascar app....Found it real interesting they didn't give him an EVOLTE to use....esp if they had a ton of signage for it...
Gordon Ramsay said:
Did anybody see last nights NASCAR race with the fourteen million signs saying EVO 4G LTE....pissed me off lol
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Yes I did and yes it was everywhere. Last year they were showing off the EVO 3d to all the drivers and even the announcers had them. its also in the best buy ad this morning. I bet a lot of people go there and are pissed when its not
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Just wanted to say a quick hey to my fellow EVO enthusiasts! This is my first of hopefully many posts in the LTE forum. Coming from the OG EVO. I've rooted, unrooted, rooted again, flashed crashed and bashed. Really looking forward to this new phone! Here's hoping good news on Monday! See ya soon!
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sgt. slaughter said:
Started this thread "2nd January 2012, 02:14 AM"......The Force is with you xHausx!
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lol, I've been preparing for this moment for a long time
My ex old lady used to always say she thought I was psychic afterall, or was it psycho.. don't remember
I've been having problems with my OG Evo for like a month now. I didn't know about the charge dock problems even though I'm always here flashing new roms. I was anxiously waiting for the new one and then all of this happened. For a while, I was seriously considering cancelling my order but then I realized that that would be a win for Apple and I could not contribute to their gain. I decided to wait patiently for my phone.
In terms of the patent I think its BS, and this is coming from a software engineer. I don't want to go deep into that discussion but working with code is a whole different ballgame.
In terms of the whole GS3 vs. EvoLTE vs. iPhone5 thing, I think both the GS3 and the EvoLTE are good phones. I don't know much about the iphone5 specs yet. What I can say is that apple products are not that unarguably better overall for them to have so much money and crazy fanboys right now.
The best apple product was the iPod by far. It revolutionized the industry. Everything else from there has come off branding. You can argue about the OG iPhone and iPad being nice too but that feels like a century ago. Like I said, everything else is marketing. Its funny people buying expensive macs just to log in to facebook and serious customers run parallel half of the time to use windows programs.
Right now, we have competition and we have android developers working their a** off to get a small share of the pie and that's why I can't cancel my order. After I read this, I was shocked by how this blind fanaticism is hurting the industry around the world. I don't wanna be a part of that. Like I said, some Apple products are great, but they are not unarguably so ahead of the curve for them to be squashing everyone that easy. My two cents...
see this...
http://taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2012/05/21/2003533313
now go back off topic....
david279 said:
see this...
http://taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2012/05/21/2003533313
now go back off topic....
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Awesome I guess, but who cares thats not off topic man!
Lets continue the talk about Nascar ... Yes I saw all the branding and yes it ticked me off..
Now watching the New cars at Indy, wow they are funny looking. I can't get used to them. They do go fast though, unless of course your car has a Lotus motor in it... those suck. Chevy is dominating! YES!

Maybe a great marketing idea?

Yes this may never work, but currently at the end of my shift at work, and I started thinking what would really show people what's going on behind the scenes with Apple suing HTC and Samsung. And this is the idea that I came up with, with the idea that it probably would never work, but hey its just a thought lol.
We've seen HTC comparing itself to Samsungs GSIII, just trying to compare itself. What if HTC and Samsung did it together with Google as the head supporter of Android, with a headline of something around, "Apple's run scared, attempting to ban these phones from you." Or "Meet the phones that Apple is terrified off..." Something in that sense to stir up curiousity and interest in. And on my mind, YMMV, I picture the OG EVO commercials with the Andrioids flying around the phone and showing it off with quotes from reviews.
But in the end, a for more info go to here, to show the potential customer what is going on since none of Apple's lawsuits are very big in the news unfortunately.
Obviously HTC and Sammy fans don't get along too well, but the Android OEMS seriously need to stick together for some time if they're ever going to have a chance if Apple keeps chipping away at them with court.
Reminder, this is just my personal opinion, but please share what you think of it. Or what you would add / change because I'm curious of this would ever be a true way to really give Apple some SERIOUSLY BAD PR, or if I'm just some nut case, who needs to get a job with daytime hours lol.
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I work nights as well and I sometimes wonder if I am crazy bc my ideas make so much sense. I really like your idea. But any revenge on apple right now seems good to me.
Apple will always have their hardcore followers. No matter how much better my EVO LTE is the hardcore apple-ites will say Apple has better blah blah blah. And they will inevitably say "that's the phone that violated all the apple patents!" *snarl/*
Anyways, I like your idea. Don't think it's gonna happen though.
You know the iPhone's use of google maps generates 40% of Google's income? And now that Apple is deciding to make its own map app to replace Google maps as the default in iPhone it seems like an all out break in the companies.
Apple isn't innovating anymore, all they're doing is filing stupid patents and suing. They'll probably win because they are on top and have the $ to pay lawyers where other companies don't.
Sorry about the rant, I usually post on android central. Come here to check out the mods and roms so I don't post much.
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Anthonicia said:
You know the iPhone's use of google maps generates 40% of Google's income? And now that Apple is deciding to make its own map app to replace Google maps as the default in iPhone it seems like an all out break in the companie.
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Put the crack pipe down..40% of Google's income does NOT come from iPhone users..its more closer to 2%..You missed a few key words in your remark.
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Great idea, might happen with the next nexus's
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BrianBaker said:
Put the crack pipe down..40% of Google's income does NOT come from iPhone users..its more closer to 2%..You missed a few key words in your remark.
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Lol wondered where he got that from.
fpineda101 said:
Great idea, might happen with the next nexus's
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And this is true with 5 devices to be made by diff manufactures we shall see tho!
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BrianBaker said:
Put the crack pipe down..40% of Google's income does NOT come from iPhone users..its more closer to 2%..You missed a few key words in your remark.
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I don't know what the percentage is but I bet it's a good amount, much more than 2% but no where near 40%.
"Mobile ads associated with maps and location data account for about a quarter of all mobile ad revenue. That's money Apple wants and Google doesn't want to lose out on."
http://www.businessinsider.com/wsj-apple-will-ditch-google-maps-on-ios-later-this-year-2012-6
It would be a much bigger blow if Apple were to get rid of Google search all together but I do feel the maps thing will put a bit of a dent in Google's bottom line.
ausch30 said:
I don't know what the percentage is but I bet it's a good amount, much more than 2% but no where near 40%.
"Mobile ads associated with maps and location data account for about a quarter of all mobile ad revenue. That's money Apple wants and Google doesn't want to lose out on."
http://www.businessinsider.com/wsj-apple-will-ditch-google-maps-on-ios-later-this-year-2012-6
It would be a much bigger blow if Apple were to get rid of Google search all together but I do feel the maps thing will put a bit of a dent in Google's bottom line.
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A quarter total that means all devices that use maps. Android etc... It may be more then 2% but not that much...
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IPhone accounts for about 40% of Google's MOBILE revenue..but Google as a whole its close to about 2%
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BrianBaker said:
IPhone accounts for about 40% of Google's MOBILE revenue..but Google as a whole its close to about 2%
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That makes sense but that 40% probably made up of mostly of searching yes?
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Just read it on usatoday tech news I believe. Let me find the link. Maybe it's google mobile.
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Yes, 40% of google mobile search ad revenue. Or 1.5 billion. Not a whole lot right?
The first article I read did not make it abundantly clear what part of google it was. They are just estimates too. Because even tho we are talking about iPhone users they will still be able to figure out how to use Google maps
Well, u would think.
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ckoadiyn said:
A quarter total that means all devices that use maps. Android etc... It may be more then 2% but not that much...
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BrianBaker said:
IPhone accounts for about 40% of Google's MOBILE revenue..but Google as a whole its close to about 2%
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ckoadiyn said:
That makes sense but that 40% probably made up of mostly of searching yes?
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I agree, I'm just saying it's going to sting a bit at Google. Hopefully it might help them get on the manufacturers and carriers a bit more to make sure they're selling quality products, I love Android but some of the stuff that gets put out there is absolute crap.
I know this thread has gotten off topic so I say to the OP, that might help if Google were to advertize. They make almost all their money off of ads but don't advertize themselves. The carriers do advertize phones a bit but they're more interested in selling you on their network than a specific phone. Not to mention the fact 3 of the 4 national carriers sell the iPhone so they wouldn't put down one of their own products.
Yeah, just came up with 40% off the top of my head because I was smoking crack.
Reading news on apple/google
Smoking crack
I can see how u would see the relation there.
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Anthonicia said:
I work nights as well and I sometimes wonder if I am crazy bc my ideas make so much sense. I really like your idea. But any revenge on apple right now seems good to me.
Apple will always have their hardcore followers. No matter how much better my EVO LTE is the hardcore apple-ites will say Apple has better blah blah blah. And they will inevitably say "that's the phone that violated all the apple patents!" *snarl/*
Anyways, I like your idea. Don't think it's gonna happen though.
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Lol at least someone understands where I'm coming from. I doubt this will ever work but it was just an idea at the time.
But overall, I feel Google needs to help the OEMs stick together, for some amount of time, just to make it harder for Apple to try to make its dream of shutting Android down. Yes it would be hard, but on their current path, they may get their chance.
I laughed at some of the comments, but I guess the question I was trying to get around to ask,
Do you think google and the OEMs should make commercials with Google as the headliner to tell the world what Apple is suing about? I think if the overall general public knew, besides us tech enthusiasts , maybe people would see Apple for who they really are...
Just my two cents, and go!
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ausch30 said:
I know this thread has gotten off topic so I say to the OP, that might help if Google were to advertize. They make almost all their money off of ads but don't advertize themselves. The carriers do advertize phones a bit but they're more interested in selling you on their network than a specific phone. Not to mention the fact 3 of the 4 national carriers sell the iPhone so they wouldn't put down one of their own products.
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I agree, that's why I never suggested the carrier's to make the commercial because they don't want to have conflicts I suspect, and they only care to sell, regardless the product.
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AJilka89 said:
Lol at least someone understands where I'm coming from. I doubt this will ever work but it was just an idea at the time.
But overall, I feel Google needs to help the OEMs stick together, for some amount of time, just to make it harder for Apple to try to make its dream of shutting Android down. Yes it would be hard, but on their current path, they may get their chance.
I laughed at some of the comments, but I guess the question
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This is actually what I've been hoping would happen for quite a while. It's much easier to pick them off one by one than to attack a united front. Unfortunately the all-mighty (dollar, euro, whatever) always wins out. If the manufacturers and Google could put aside their differences and come together and attack Apple, I think Apple would be forced to back down. For the first time in 4 years Android's world-wide usage dropped last quarter. It only dropped about 0.6% (from, I think, 51% to 50.4%) but a drop none the less. Symbian had over 50% of the market 4yrs ago, now it's dead. "Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it" -Winston Churchill
ausch30 said:
This is actually what I've been hoping would happen for quite a while. It's much easier to pick them off one by one than to attack a united front. Unfortunately the all-mighty (dollar, euro, whatever) always wins out. If the manufacturers and Google could put aside their differences and come together and attack Apple, I think Apple would be forced to back down. For the first time in 4 years Android's world-wide usage dropped last quarter. It only dropped about 0.6% (from, I think, 51% to 50.4%) but a drop none the less. Symbian had over 50% of the market 4yrs ago, now it's dead. "Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it" -Winston Churchill
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+1
This is what I was aiming for. Google needs to make serious friends, not just wayside acquaintances, to make Android that much stronger.
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