So as we all know the more times you recharge a battery they eventually stop being able to hold a full charge. So what happens when say in 1 year the Evo 4g LTE can only hold 70% of a charge? Do you have to send it to HTC to get the battery replaced?
I could see this being a problem on thicker phones where the battery can be deeper in, but on this phone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiKpHr8RLBs
The battery is a few screws away I'd be surprised if we don't see a few aftermarket batteries.
It will take way longer than a year to reduce capacity to %70 percent... for example my mac battery that is also lithium ion is 3 years old with 651 load cycles can hold %88 percent of the original capacity.
It will be fine past the two year mark I'd think. My Epic 4G's battery still still as good as new, and my Evo's battery wont be getting charged as much (because it lasts soo much longer).
What is the best way to condition the battery?
I'll just take it to Sprint and have them replace the battery. I have TEP.
I suspect you can take it to Sprint. I haven't had any issues with the battery on any my previous HTC phones. I think you'll have issues with the phone before you have issues with the battery.
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What is the best way to condition the battery?
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Do less full charges. These are lithium batteries and they will last longer if you charge from say, 30%-50% to 100 rather then totally dead to fully charged. All the tutorials you see posted where it says fully charge, then deplete, then charge and deplete, etc don't work. Old alkaline batts used to have a memory and if you didn't do that they would eventually not charge completely. You don't have that issue nowadays.
I agree Bring battery down to a low percentage and recharge it fully.
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I'll just take it to Sprint and have them replace the battery. I have TEP.
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I asked about batteries at Sprint store (repair store) 2 days ago. They said they are not taking apart the phone. They are going to replace the phone for battery issues.
I had a seidio 3500mah battery in the old evo. After about a year of use, it's capacity dropped to about 70%. The phone went from being recharged every 2 days (with a good 55-60%+ remaining) to about 20-30% remaining after 2 days.
Unless technology has improved in the current batteries, I believe we'll see similar results.
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I'll just take it to Sprint and have them replace the battery. I have TEP.
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Most of us don't want to pay $60-$90 a year in case a $30 battery goes bad.
It's quite easy to take this phone apart to replace the battery. Just requires a Torx t5 bit and a small jeweler's philips. Really takes less than 5 min to disassemble and swap out the battery.
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Most of us don't want to pay $60-$90 a year in case a $30 battery goes bad.
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No, but it saved my ass when I dropped my phone and needed a replacement without paying full price.
HTC EVO 4G LTE "Battery"
The battery is a 2,000mAh lithium ion battery degrades if you use it or not, so use it and which has an average of 500 charges, but rarley mentions if it's protected! In previous posts I seen various time of life pertaining to the battery and I just want to say that it all depends if your a power user or not! If the battery is not protected the battery will not be stable and can explode and or recharge up to 1200 cycles and puts out the correct voltage 3.7v protected or not and a LiFePO4 can charge up to 2000 time, but only puts out 3.2 V so I have to say this is strange knowing these devices needs the extra voltage! The only way to go is a Lithium polymer battery which puts out the correct voltage and on average can charge around a 1000 cycles and seems to have less drain on the battery compared to others! Protected batteries conversate back and fourth with the charger to maintain stability, but also counts the amount of cycles which is around 500 cycles for "safety reasons" Everything is marketing! I've been screaming about this video posted above and on the HTC Forum and they've been rejecting the reply's because they obviously want to hide this information! People spend more than this on a mp3 player than what they offer for a trade in and this is the perfect mini tablet/phone! I hope third party companies make batteries for this phone! (((A little off course, but helpful is when your old power tools battery dies "nickel cadmium" you can shock it with twice the voltage by scraping the connection with the appropriate voltage and will burn the crystals off that stops it from charging because this battery has a memory!))) HTC put out a update recently that caused a issue with battery lose for the HTC EVO 4G LTE and it's all over the forum there! funny how this all goes hand in hand! Sorry for the long message, but sometimes helpful...
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Most of us don't want to pay $60-$90 a year in case a $30 battery goes bad.
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That'd be a valid argument if that were the only thing the TEP covered.
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the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
Don't be lazy and search before you post.
Read this thread.
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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€25,-?!?
The 3000mAh one cost me $69 at LionBattery IIRC. And I'd rather buy from them than from a suspiciously low-pricing vendor on eBay... I'm not risking my TyTN nor my €25,- with such a vendor
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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thanks for the info... but id rather trust my device (and money) on reputable stores rather than eBay... as they say, "you get what you pay for..."
no offense, though...
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the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
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I just got this battery from Lionbattery and it is emazing. I use to get about 15 hrs with standard batter. With this one I get 48 hrs, it is really worth it for me. I only had the battery for 3 days thus far.
i just got the extended battery - and am in the process of charging it now...
well, as what most people said - the back cover that came with the battery doesnt fit snugly into the unit. there is a outcrop on the seams (much like a bulge if you were too tight a pants)...
question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
also - how does one full discharge the device? i mean, doesnt the device turn off automatically after some set of seconds? how can i keep it ON the entire time?
thanks in advanced!!!
I bought a 2800 one off ebay came with charger, and car charger for $30 last week.
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question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
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The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
Anyway, to train the battery intially, put it through 3-5 full charge/discharge cycles. I do it with normal usage. Charge it till it is full and then use it until it shuts off. Repeat. The hard part (at least for me) is not plugging it into a USB for syncing or for modding the thing... cause that'll charge it, and you don't want to apply any charge (if possible) for those first 3-5 cycles. When I get the first battery alarm, I'll back the phone up just incase, then keep going.
Also, I've heard it was important that once you start charging it, you don't stop until it is fully charged again. ie, don't unplug it from the wall to make a call... go over to the wall and make the call while it is plugged in.
There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
Li-Ion's do not have memory. They have a drastic drop once they go under a certain point of discharge.
I have the 2800 mAh, it works great and after a full day of use I have about 40% battery life.
-2 hrs on phone
-40 emails
-random web browsing
-Turn 3G and WiFi off when not used.
So you can see from the stock 1300 mAh which would last me about 9 hrs this is a HUGE step in the right direction.
Mine was on ebay for 30 bones with car charger, and Wall charger.
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
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There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
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Mark,
Great information and I am glad to hear that I don't need to cylce through charge and discharge in order to get good performance out of the battery. I have cycled my new battery twice but I am not going to do it anymore. According to the information from above site, the battery last longer on partial charge.
Thanks
alkizmo said:
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
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I bought the 2800 one off ebay for $30. Its not fake I haven't charge it at all for 2 days and its still at 70.
Seidio 3200 MAH, It Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just ordered one off ebay
I bought a 2800 mah battery for my 8525 off ebay from a cheap vendor and i admit it did give me more power but on closer inspection when i cracked the pack open it was two 1100mah wired together. I know this because they were stamped with 1100mah lol. Im still using it until this day but you truely get what you pay for. I would take the advice and buy from a reputable vendor or.... take my knowledge if you want a 2200 mah battery for 15-20 bucks.
I got an extended battery 2850mah from ebay. Initially it is no better than the regular battery.Then after a few cycles (5X) when I check my SPB battery meter which indicates the approx run time in hours it comes to 10 hours +! with the regular battery it only goes 3-4 hours. In terms of percent it stays at 100% longer.
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The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
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Sorry to have to say but in this paragraph, you contradict yourself, first you say they dont have a memory and call it a myth, then you say they do.
In fact they dont have any memory effect, its better to charge them whenever rather than let them drain completely..
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
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I bought a 2800 from 360wireless on ebay and have had it for almost a month. It certainly has doubled my usage, so with random surfing on 3G/HSDPA (roughly an hour or so of solid surfing), a keepalive connection on my IM program (on E/G for battery purposes), screen dimming after 30 seconds, and about 10 emails a day and 50-100 chat messages, I'm at about 50% at the end of my day.
I'm good with that. I don't need to open it and inspect it. If it's 2 batteries put together, as long as it does the job, I'm good.
Did HTC change the way devices operate when plugged in?
With the original evo 4g, it would run off the battery even when plugged in. Is that still the case with their newer devices (including the lte)?
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Did HTC change the way devices operate when plugged in?
With the original evo 4g, it would run off the battery even when plugged in. Is that still the case with their newer devices (including the lte)?
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I don't know the answer, but a fascinating question. Laptops don't run off the battery when charging (at least I don't think any ones I've ever owned do). So why should phones? They're basically little computers now anyway. I suppose we'll need a manual to know the answer, or an HTC rep.
While I agree with your assertion above, that was not the case with the original evo.
As is recall, this is demonstrated by using battery monitor widget or similar, with history enabled. The data would indicate that once the phone reached 100% charge, it would begin to discharge until about 90%. At this point it would start charging up again (until 100%) and the cycle would repeat.
If the phone is running off the charger while plugged in, the battery level should remain at 100% the entire time. Sure there were kernels available that would change the charge rate or thresholds. Anyone with an evo 3d care to chime in?
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While I agree with your assertion above, that was not the case with the original evo.
As is recall, this is demonstrated by using battery monitor widget or similar, with history enabled. The data would indicate that once the phone reached 100% charge, it would begin to discharge until about 90%. At this point it would start charging up again (until 100%) and the cycle would repeat.
If the phone is running off the charger while plugged in, the battery level should remain at 100% the entire time. Sure there were kernels available that would change the charge rate or thresholds. Anyone with an evo 3d care to chime in?
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That seems rather silly - what if you grab the phone off the charger when it is just down to that 90% marker? It will show up as 100% I presume, and then drop rapidly down to 90%? Hmmm... No wonder those SBC kernels are so useful!
It's the same reason most new laptops give you a battery health option that only charges to 80% if you keep a battery at full charge for an extended period of time the cells will overheat and eventually lose some of their charging ability kinda like when you use a float charge on a lawnmower battery it's on a constant charge and discharge to keep the battery healthy same rule applies here.
Whatever they do/did, I hope it's well thought out, considering the battery is not removable. Once the cells degrade,...phone is shot. A bit disappointing. I'm not here trying to fight about nonremovable battery and how long it will last, and ability yo swap out batteries. But the idea that battery degradation (which is inevitable) = shot phone DOES give me pause and concern.
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Even after a year, there is noticeable diminished battery capacity. I've had the seidio 3500 in my original evo since about feb or march of last year. Fast forward to same time this year. I'd say it easily lost 20-25% capacity. With my typical usage, I could go for up to 4 days without having to recharge (yes, light user). Now, it's 2-2.5 days. I was bothered by it enough that I did an rma. Seidio said that's normal wear and tear. Fortunately, the credit card I used had an extended warranty feature too, so that's what covered it.
There will likely be a tear apart video/howto posted eventually on the evo lte. Although the battery may not be typical user replaceable, i'm confident it is possible to open the device with minimal damage.
I'm sure there will be a way to switch batteried, you'll just have to go to a phone tech probably. I'm not worried anyways, I'm still using my stock evo battery and it's still going strong
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Whatever they do/did, I hope it's well thought out, considering the battery is not removable. Once the cells degrade,...phone is shot. A bit disappointing. I'm not here trying to fight about nonremovable battery and how long it will last, and ability yo swap out batteries. But the idea that battery degradation (which is inevitable) = shot phone DOES give me pause and concern.
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
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I'm sure you can fork over some cash and get the battery replaced. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. iPhones have survived with non-removable batteries for many years (although I always used that as a "con" in my comparisons between Apple and Google's respective phones).
My Evo 3D will discharge to 95% then back to 100% and repeat. It is done to keep the battery in good health longer.
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Bump since no one has given input after "release". Very interested if we will still need to do that "turn it off, charge, unplug, charge, repeat" thing.
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i would guess the phone uses the usb power source and not the battery because a few days ago my battery was low and i plugged it into my car charger and continued to use the phone,A few moments later i got notified that the phone was useing power faster than the charger could supply it
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I'm sure you can fork over some cash and get the battery replaced. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this. iPhones have survived with non-removable batteries for many years (although I always used that as a "con" in my comparisons between Apple and Google's respective phones).
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This is true, But iPhone users have no choice. So they get used to it.
Android, at least for now, has choices regarding removeable batteries.
IPhone users also have a 3 1/2"? size screen, which they got used to.
I'd Never purchase an Android device with that size screen, even if it was available. I highly doubt they'd sell many of them with that size screen.
Reminds me of when I thought my HTC Touch Diamond's screen was so large, compared to my previous clamshell devices prior to that lol!
It was such a nice screen for its time, just like the iPhone was a nice screen for its time, but that time has long passed, except for iPhone users :-(
I have never owned a phone with a non replaceable battery before. I have my One on it's first charge now. I am curious how many charges do you think this battery can handle before we start to see some decline in performance? I read with iPhones people can expect 300-500 before the batteries lose 20% or something like that of total capacity. I know our phone is different so that means very little here just using it as an example. I want to charge my phone as needed but would hate for the battery to be trash in 6 months or less. This is my primary fear with this phone, so guys tell me do I have nothing to worry about charge away... Or should I try to really be conscious of when I am charging?
Thanks in advance guys!
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I have never owned a phone with a non replaceable battery before. I have my One on it's first charge now. I am curious how many charges do you think this battery can handle before we start to see some decline in performance? I read with iPhones people can expect 300-500 before the batteries lose 20% or something like that of total capacity. I know our phone is different so that means very little here just using it as an example. I want to charge my phone as needed but would hate for the battery to be trash in 6 months or less. This is my primary fear with this phone, so guys tell me do I have nothing to worry about charge away... Or should I try to really be conscious of when I am charging?
Thanks in advance guys!
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That's 300 to 500 full discharge-charge cycles. If you only run the battery down halfway at the end of the day and charge until full, it's roughly half the wear of a full cycle. There's some benefit to longevity with having shallower discharge cycles, but not enough that you should worry. There's a lot of variability depending on the battery type, the charge controller, and the chosen charging profiles.
Most modern LiPo batteries can easily get 300-500 charge/discharge cycles before hitting 80% capacity. Those are full cycles. If you only partially charge or discharge the battery, you're not using up a full cycle.
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Most modern LiPo batteries can easily get 300-500 charge/discharge cycles before hitting 80% capacity. Those are full cycles. If you only partially charge or discharge the battery, you're not using up a full cycle.
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2 years is just such a long time. I guess the fact that this is my big concern right now means I have no REAL concerns with the phone so far. Besides it getting pretty hot! I think I'll notice the heat a lot less once my case arrives. What do you guys honestly think the shelf life of this battery will be even if it is just an educated guess?
Personally I feel that with technology these days, your phone becomes obsolete before you have to worry about your phone battery actually dying. Best thing to do in my opinion is charge whenever you can. From my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong, its best to keep the phone above 50% charge
Yeah, I keep a charger in the car, at work, 2 at home, and Mophie Juicepack powerstation backup. (the last one is awesome for camping amd airline travel)
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Yeah, I keep a charger in the car, at work, 2 at home, and Mophie Juicepack powerstation backup. (the last one is awesome for camping amd airline travel)
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I have all of those things too, different kind of juicepack but same idea. My fear is just charging the phone nearly 2 times a day for 2 years! Even 1 and a half times. I use my phone a lot. I won't be one of those people with 50% left at the end of the day. I know I am overreacting and I should just enjoy my new amazing phone. I just can't help but be worried that the battery is gonna crap out like on my inspire after a little over a year. I also won't be getting a new phone before the 2 years are up I'm always in for the long haul.
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I have all of those things too, different kind of juicepack but same idea. My fear is just charging the phone nearly 2 times a day for 2 years! Even 1 and a half times. I use my phone a lot. I won't be one of those people with 50% left at the end of the day. I know I am overreacting and I should just enjoy my new amazing phone. I just can't help but be worried that the battery is gonna crap out like on my inspire after a little over a year. I also won't be getting a new phone before the 2 years are up I'm always in for the long haul.
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I have the exact same concern. I'm not too sure how simple it would be to just send it in to an HTC service centre to replace after a year.
HTC in South Africa has a poor presence.
Hi fellow l9'ers
I purchased an OEM battery to have as a spare battery since I'm usually out of battery when I most need it but forget to bring it or charge it. After having so-so experiences with aftermarket extended batteries on other phones I decided that if I wanted good results on the cheap I need to make it myself. Still testing it out but initial impressions are good.
BTW.. yes it looks horrendous and I do know that it could blow up, ruin my phone, cause cancer and start WW3.... but thanks for your concern.
Source of inspiration. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800177&highlight=battery+mod
9/4/13 Update.... after using it on a daily basis and swiping back and forth between the oem battery and my jerry-rigged battery I can say its definitely working. The performance has gotten constant and I did a battery drain comparison between the 2 using the app called FAST DISCHARGE. All option selected and cpu set to full load with temp set to unlimited. I did remove two of the jumpers and only left positive and negative connected.
OEM BATTERY........... 2hr 5min 13 sec
JERRY-RIGGED BATT..........3hr 35min 21sec
I suspect that it doesn't last double since both circuits are being powered when charged...... the first battery to be fully charged send a signal to the charger to shut off hence the lack of full power.
Over all for $10 bucks I'm not complaining.
How does the battery stay in place? double side tape?
Also, what is the battery life on this uhmmmm... phone?
How is it?
I am very interested in trying this if your results are good...How has your battery life been affected? Has it doubled? Do you use a case that works with the new "power bulge"?
I did that to my old i897 captivate. you only need the positive and negative connected. you're connecting the two circuit boards together which may cause problems. i would remove that one. Unless you can find a battery charger that supplies more amperage you most likely will never get that battery fully charged no matter what the android meter says.
Ok, after a few days of heavy usage I have come across sporadic performance results. In a few occasions it would out last the original battery under the same usage and other times it would perform as a stock battery. I plan on purchasing an external charger since I suspect that both batteries are not fully being charged as the previous post mentions. I will also disassemble the second battery and take the circuit out of the equation. So far I am pleased with it's performance even though it's not consistent.
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Ok, after a few days of heavy usage I have come across sporadic performance results. In a few occasions it would out last the original battery under the same usage and other times it would perform as a stock battery. I plan on purchasing an external charger since I suspect that both batteries are not fully being charged as the previous post mentions. I will also disassemble the second battery and take the circuit out of the equation. So far I am pleased with it's performance even though it's not consistent.
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Cool. i work in batteries so i didnt check out dudes guide other than his soldering was good lol. essentially all you're doing is connecting the batteries in parallel. since both batteries have a circuit board that controls low voltage and temperature safety, you only need to use one as the battery will still be a 3.6v cell just double the capacity. stock LG charger shipped w/ L9 outputs .85 amps so if you could find one that did 1.5amps or 1500mah you'd be in good shape.
Like @Meda808 said,you only need to connect two pins... + and -.You will also need stronger charger but... There is a circuit in a phone which controls power to battery(I think that that's why is one of the two middle contacts on battery) so... Maybe with external charger?
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Well, good feature, but on the other hand smartphone becomes fat, and if I look on way I use my phone, I won't do DIY like this.
That looks interesting, but I wouldn't be able to get over the hump.
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Small update......
So far so good, no major issues. I purchased the anker standalone charger and it charges the battery but it takes way to long(10-15hrs) So I just charge it in the phone now. The battery lasts me a full day under heavy heavy usage. Prior to this by 2-3pm it was out of juice.
I have noticed that it has become less sporadic the more I use it.
Iheartradio 4-6hrs a day, dish anywhere 2-3hrs a day, calls:30-1hr. This is with WiF(thanks Home Depot), data and Bluetooth(LG Tone)on for most of the day.../.. I'm happy I did it.
I unplug at 4:45am and plug it in by 8-9pm with about 20-30% left.
I have not modified the connection yet so I suspect that it still might not be fully charged even with the aftermarket charger.
About the hump..... I got use to it quiker than I thought.
hahaha ill give ya props for ingenuity
9/4/13 Update.... after using it on a daily basis and swiping back and forth between the oem battery and my jerry-rigged battery I can say its definitely working. The performance has gotten constant and I did a battery drain comparison between the 2 using the app called FAST DISCHARGE. All option selected and cpu set to full load with temp set to unlimited. I did remove two of the jumpers and only left positive and negative connected.
OEM BATTERY........... 2hr 5min 13 sec
JERRY-RIGGED BATT..........3hr 35min 21sec
I suspect that it doesn't last double since both circuits are being powered when charged...... the first battery to be fully charged send a signal to the charger to shut off hence the lack of full power.
Over all for $10 bucks I'm not complaining.
http://techlife.samsung.com/tips-keep-smartphone-charged-1059.html
Charge Regularly
To get the most out of your smartphone's battery, you'll need to charge it properly. Most smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity. If this happens, you'll need to charge the battery more frequently and it may last only a few hours before needing a charge, for example.
Your battery will also perform better if you don't let it charge to 100 percent, so take it off the charger at about 80 to 90 percent capacity. Leaving the phone connected to the charger when the phone is completely charged may lower battery life if you do it repeatedly.
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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Wow I did not know any of this. I will be following this thanks for sharing.
how long is the battery lasting if you are only going down to 50 and up to 90?
Gees! Below 50% really. I would tend to agree somewhat. I never let my phone fall below 20% and usually charge until 97% more or less. But 90-50. I don't want to be walking around with a battery back. I need my phone to last all day and 40% of the battery just won't cut it.
Xuck that !! I have a 3000mah battery for a reason if it goes then it goes ill most likely have another phone by then.Not gonna sit here to nickel and dime my usage that's not why I got this phone .
GM makes the Li batteries last in the volt and bolt 10 years by not letting the car drain the batteries more than 2/3rds down, leaving the batteries at 1/3rd charge. Tesla does it too.
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Nah, I don't own my phones for more than a year so this doesn't apply to me. I'd rather keep using it from 100-1 just like I've been doing for years. I wouldn't be able to stand only getting an hour of use and charging it 3 times a day.
This battery information applies to all devices that use this type of battery be they Samsung or other brands. Its not just the Note 8. It applies equally to your Oral-B tooth brush! :laugh:
Ryland
this is a good habit to charge often at 50%. i usually let the battery run down to like 20% or less then charge. then when i have to go somewhere and i cant play with my phone anymore cus i worry i going to run down the battery.
Question are the "300-2500" charge cycles just as it says? I mean if I put it on the charger in the car for a 10 minute drive is that a cycle along with an overnight charge? If it is we should really only be putting it on the charger from the 50-90% with a guaranteed fast charge time of at least 30+mins to get the maximum charge cycles for the lifespan?
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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This was a really well written down to earth article about battery care. Thank you. I still have friends, family, and coworkers that insist on running their batteries to 0%. I can't convince them otherwise. Although my batteries degrade, it's never been anything easy shattering. Just notice an hour or two shaved of over a couple years life. As the article states, there is no way around this and I won't be a slave to my battery. In that note, I top off when I can.
My battery on my old phone tended to get to around the 40% at the end fo the work day, then I'd plug it in usually around the 20-30% and it still lasted 2+ years 'til I got a new battery. Now it's about 50% at the end of the day. But with Fast Charge, what do they expect people to do, plug it in for an hour, then unplug it, then go to sleep, wake up with 60% battery, go to work and then charge it for an hour when you get there?
The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
slaapliedje said:
The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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Too black and white.
It is possible to offer some water resistance to a mobile that has a removable battery, S5 for eg.
In general such water resistance is small and is often abused by the owner causing problems. Hardly any owner reads the instruction manual that outlines what ones device can and cannot do, what the IP rating means in REAL terms etc
"Forced obsolescence" mmmmm, a battery can be changed in the Note 8. I understand your point though.
Ryland
this has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too small a batteries in its top of the range device!
bonerp said:
this guff has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too smaller batteries in its top of the range device!
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Totaly agree......
We then have to ask 'ourselves' WHY! Who forced Mobile brands to make anorexic devices? WE DID. We wanted thin small large wide slim ...........we got it and now pay the price.
I personally don't care if the device is thicker with a larger battery, for me its not a problem. For so many size was a major issue so the manufacture's listened and came up with these ultra thin mobiles that are vulnerable to dropping and breaking etc. off topic.
I find it totally bizarre that we spend mega bucks on such devices only to find we are educated to use them on software that reduces said mobile to the performance of a phone costing 100€! I may add many posters where disappointed when the Note 8 didn't have a 4k screen! Can you imagine the battery issues then?
Now we read this Samsung article and find we would need to charge our mobile several times a day as well as run it on a vastly reduced software programme. In reality that article is saying the battery is only operating efficiently at 40% of its total capacity before we start to degrade its life! Its all so absurd. What are we doing here folks?
Only one answer to this, either drop the performance OR vastly improve battery technology and fast.
Ryland
I'm not sure how usefull this is for the new samsung phones though, as the release of the S8 Samsung improved the battery.
Samsung Mobile R&D VP Bookeun Oh told me, "I focused on maintaining the durability of the battery over the long term, over hundreds of charging cycles. For example, after approximately six months of normal usage, the battery in the S8 will outperform previous batteries. While most batteries hold about 80 percent of their charge after two years in usual cases, this battery should be capable of 95 percent of its original capacity."
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PC mag S8 review
I am sorry but i will use my phone all day and charge overnight. If you can't use past 50% what is the point???? My pixel xl i have had since day 1 and use all day everyday and charge overnight and noticed no real decrease in battery life except a little change with oreo!
Outdated info and not necessary.
0% on your device is still considerably above what is considered the bottom line cell voltage before excessive discharge detrimental affects capacity.
A lot of engineering has gone into these devices to squeeze every possible mAh out of the packs, have a decent life expectancy AND operate safely. There is no need to strive for certain numbers and forcibly change your usage habits. There may or may not be a demonstrably better result long term but honestly is it worth worrying about?
And for removable packs...
Forget it. That's a thing of the past.
If devices had battery life like the Skyrocket, sure I see the NEED for a swappable pack.
But not now.
Having a sealed device makes it feel solid and keeps intrusion protection intact.
Holding an older device in hand, it seems almost laughable today. It creaks and groans and feels super cheap in comparison like some dollar store toy!