[Q] Starting Off - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

I have the following:
Samsung-SGH-I777
2.3.6
I777UCKK6
2.6.35.7
GingerBread.UCKK6
I have spent a lot of time reading XDA and other Android Boards hoping I could find a pretty straightforward way to get control of my phone (su access?). I want to get rid of apps that T put on and I also want to be able to hotspot my phone. But I really want to understand what I am doing. Every thread seems to assume a level of knowledge I just don't think I have. I'm tempted to jump in but feel like I'll then just be a poster saying HELP BRICKED MY PHONE.
When I come across a youtube or pdf that looks promising - it invariably has comments associated with it like: Oh, if you upgraded to 2.3.6 watch out.....or, I did this and now my wifi doesn't work.
Here is my question - can anyone point me to a thread or website that really walks a novice through the basics like the difference between a Rom and a kernel, how the SD card works etc.
And certainly if someone can point me to a solid root procedure for my phone (see above) please feel free.
Thanks for listening
Peter

Stackman1 said:
I have the following:
Samsung-SGH-I777
2.3.6
I777UCKK6
2.6.35.7
GingerBread.UCKK6
I have spent a lot of time reading XDA and other Android Boards hoping I could find a pretty straightforward way to get control of my phone (su access?). I want to get rid of apps that T put on and I also want to be able to hotspot my phone. But I really want to understand what I am doing. Every thread seems to assume a level of knowledge I just don't think I have. I'm tempted to jump in but feel like I'll then just be a poster saying HELP BRICKED MY PHONE.
When I come across a youtube or pdf that looks promising - it invariably has comments associated with it like: Oh, if you upgraded to 2.3.6 watch out.....or, I did this and now my wifi doesn't work.
Here is my question - can anyone point me to a thread or website that really walks a novice through the basics like the difference between a Rom and a kernel, how the SD card works etc.
And certainly if someone can point me to a solid root procedure for my phone (see above) please feel free.
Thanks for listening
Peter
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Sorry man, That level of knowledge you speak of, is what you need. If you cant find the info, dont root your phone.
We dont hold hands here, there is plenty of info around. Find it and put it to use.
If you searched for everything your looking for, you'd find your answers.
Its obvious that you HAVE NOT spent anytime looking for the answers you seek.
Good luck peter.

Like what was said above, getting the information for all these things is really simple.
Read the stickies.
All of the warnings and disclaimers are tacked onto the instructions because people don't want you to blame them if you don't follow directions or if something that works for someone else doesn't work for you.

Stackman1 said:
I have the following:
Samsung-SGH-I777
2.3.6
I777UCKK6
2.6.35.7
GingerBread.UCKK6
I have spent a lot of time reading XDA and other Android Boards hoping I could find a pretty straightforward way to get control of my phone (su access?). I want to get rid of apps that T put on and I also want to be able to hotspot my phone. But I really want to understand what I am doing. Every thread seems to assume a level of knowledge I just don't think I have. I'm tempted to jump in but feel like I'll then just be a poster saying HELP BRICKED MY PHONE.
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Are you using the AT&T phone on T-mobile? Just curious.
When I come across a youtube or pdf that looks promising - it invariably has comments associated with it like: Oh, if you upgraded to 2.3.6 watch out.....or, I did this and now my wifi doesn't work.
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Just my personal opinion, but I would forget all the other sites, and youtube videos, and stick with what you learn here.
Here is my question - can anyone point me to a thread or website that really walks a novice through the basics like the difference between a Rom and a kernel, how the SD card works etc.
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I'm not aware of such a guide. Some of the information is so basic that no one would think to make a guide for it. But I can give you one tip: in my guide there is a link to extra information for newbies. That can be fairly helpful.
And certainly if someone can point me to a solid root procedure for my phone (see above) please feel free.
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In my opinion, my guide is the best, but if you must, you can also use Jivy26's how to root guide.
Thanks for listening
Peter
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Creepy -
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I am using the AT&T network.

Hey man, you gotta be willing to take that big plunge. Over in the Dev section there is some good info. But you gotta be willing to take that challenge on. Just be prepared to have a brick if you do it wrong.

BigRob1712 said:
Hey man, you gotta be willing to take that big plunge. Over in the Dev section there is some good info. But you gotta be willing to take that challenge on. Just be prepared to have a brick if you do it wrong.
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It is really hard to brick your phone following the instructions here.
As long as you don't flash anything outside the AT&T Galaxy S2 Forums.

Id recommend Creepy's guide, Ive used this myself and can vouch for it. Avoid (no offense meant) using Zedomax's method to avoid the headache of breaking wifi and trying to get it back. and READ and RE READ before starting the process.
enjoy your soon to be freed phone

I very strongly agree with the advice to follow creepyncrawly's guide. Taking the time to read, understand and follow it will make the process easy and save you a lot of headaches. Don't be afraid to ask for clarification, but read, read and then read some more can't be stressed enough. Take it from a fellow novice.

I will continue to read and take the plunge soon. Definitely look into Creepy's guide.
Thanks to all that chimed in without lecturing.....

Try this link:
forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ROM-VS-Kernel

mmarquis said:
Try this link:
forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ROM-VS-Kernel
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What link? Here ya go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ROM-VS-Kernel
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That's an OK summary of firmware, but the use of the word ROM as a generic term for firmware needs a little explanation.
A ROM, or read-only memory, is a computer memory chip that has machine executable code built into it when it is manufactured. The code can not be changed. Later models of the chip were programable, and were called PROM, or programable read-only memory which can be programed once, and ePROM, or erasable programable read-only memory, which can be reprogrammed. These type of chips were used in the earliest micro computers, up until current computers, to accomplish the first step in the boot-up process.
Smart phones do not have a ROM or similar memory chip. They use NOR, P-SRAM and/or One-NAND, forms of non-volatile flash memory. The Galaxy series uses NAND memory to store the firmware. The iPhone uses PSRAM.
The use of the term ROM to refer to the firmware which contains the operating system for the phone is merely a convention, but one which has a huge amount of traction, so much so that we all use the term. There are some who would like to see the term ROM disappear in favor of the term firmware, but that is unlikely.

xhepera said:
I very strongly agree with the advice to follow creepyncrawly's guide. Taking the time to read, understand and follow it will make the process easy and save you a lot of headaches. Don't be afraid to ask for clarification, but read, read and then read some more can't be stressed enough. Take it from a fellow novice.
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+1 to this. Also, if you ever need help, you can check out the IRC channel. There's usually someone there that can help.

creepyncrawly said:
Are you using the AT&T phone on T-mobile? Just curious.
Just my personal opinion, but I would forget all the other sites, and youtube videos, and stick with what you learn here.
I'm not aware of such a guide. Some of the information is so basic that no one would think to make a guide for it. But I can give you one tip: in my guide there is a link to extra information for newbies. That can be fairly helpful.
In my opinion, my guide is the best, but if you must, you can also use Jivy26's how to root guide.
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I believe I used creepy's guide, entropy's posts. Gotta focus on one thing: getting clockwork recovery mode on (CWM). Get that and you can load a from from here. Don't use rootwiz or anything else. Make XDA your some source.
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Irc channell.... so many people in there can answer and if ur going to for some reason use zedomax tutorial.. as i did with my Mac do it with entropy daily driver kernel
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
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Moving to Q&A

All i did to root my sgs2 was get the proper drivers on pc (kies installs them i believe?). Downloaded odin 1.85 and any kernel that has cwm (i used siyah). put the phone in download mode (lots of places tell you how to do this). Put the kernel in the pda spot in odin. And flash.
Now you have a rooted phone with cwm (if all went right).
then you just download your favorite rom (i used serendipity 9.4) and place on sd card. Boot to recovery. Wipe cache/dalvik cache and factory wipe. Then flash your rom.
That's how i did it any way
Must be something in the water...

murauder said:
All i did to root my sgs2 was get the proper drivers on pc (kies installs them i believe?). Downloaded odin 1.85 and any kernel that has cwm (i used siyah). put the phone in download mode (lots of places tell you how to do this). Put the kernel in the pda spot in odin. And flash.
Now you have a rooted phone with cwm (if all went right).
then you just download your favorite rom (i used serendipity 9.4) and place on sd card. Boot to recovery. Wipe cache/dalvik cache and factory wipe. Then flash your rom.
That's how i did it any way
Must be something in the water...
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The bolded statement is inaccurate. If you followed this sequence exactly as stated, you were not rooted until you installed serendipity.

Noob to noob
The information creepy posted is the way to go. I used his superoneclick with root to get out of a failed clockwork mod loop back to stock with root.
The post was I777UCKH7OCD Root no BL.7z. This will give you clockwork mod recovery from which you can do further modifications.
The program is a 7zip file. READ about 7Zip. Follow the instructions.
Practice getting your phone into download mode (dry runs).
Don't panic.
After reading if you still have questions, read some more. All the information is here.
When you sucessfully root, look in the dev section and read about the custom roms/firmware and see how they operate, problems, successes before choosing.
Personally I like the AOKP by Task, but it is all preferences.
Good luck, you can do it.

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Rooting

Hey guys I recently got the Amaze (2 days ago). When I got it, it was on GB but I went to T-mobile to get a new sim and the guy updated my phone to ICS. Now ive tried rooting it but it does not work, i tried with the all tool kit program and the one click root. IS their anything I am doing wrong? Also do I have to be in recovery mode or can I be at the home screen? Debugging is on.
The only thing I can tell your doing wrong is your not reading enough. There is an Amaze Bible. There are How To Root Tutorials. It's been asked multiple times.
I haven't used All In One (AIO) Tool Kit but I think there's a Tutorial.
Sorry..its just frustrating coming to a forum and everyone ask the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over......you catch my drift?
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pakakid said:
Hey guys I recently got the Amaze (2 days ago). When I got it, it was on GB but I went to T-mobile to get a new sim and the guy updated my phone to ICS. Now ive tried rooting it but it does not work, i tried with the all tool kit program and the one click root. IS their anything I am doing wrong? Also do I have to be in recovery mode or can I be at the home screen? Debugging is on.
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If you searched the word "root" in my thread, there are many posts mentioning that it does not work and I said I was gonna eventually fix it.
On other terms, flash this in recovery
Try the tool kit again, note that you have to install a custom recovery before trying to root via the tool kit, once you have a custom recovery, boot into recovery then hit the root option, it should ask you to press enter once you're in recovery, do this and you shall be rooted.
Dark Nightmare said:
Try the tool kit again, note that you have to install a custom recovery before trying to root via the tool kit, once you have a custom recovery, boot into recovery then hit the root option, it should ask you to press enter once you're in recovery, do this and you shall be rooted.
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As mentioned below, this might not be working for everyone. It pushed all the files for me but did not result in root. Flashing the superuser zip linked below is what finally worked for me.
hasoon2000 said:
If you searched the word "root" in my thread, there are many posts mentioning that it does not work and I said I was gonna eventually fix it.
On other terms, flash this in recovery
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Double0EK said:
The only thing I can tell your doing wrong is your not reading enough. There is an Amaze Bible. There are How To Root Tutorials. It's been asked multiple times.
I haven't used All In One (AIO) Tool Kit but I think there's a Tutorial.
Sorry..its just frustrating coming to a forum and everyone ask the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over......you catch my drift?
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On a separate note,
I very much appreciate the help that can be received here and there quite a few tutorial threads. The problem I think some people have, including me, is that what is written doesn't always make sense to those who don't live and breathe android. I'm fairly tech savvy (have built computers, know basic bash scripting, and have spent excessive amounts of time troubleshooting and hacking in Linux) but instructions like "flash stock RUU in hboot" don't make much sense until you've spent a lot of time reading.
Hasoon's tool is very close to what is needed. Hopefully whatever issue there is with the root option can be fixed. Or maybe it's just a matter of better understanding of how to use it.
droidux said:
As mentioned below, this might not be working for everyone. It pushed all the files for me but did not result in root. Flashing the superuser zip linked below is what finally worked for me.
On a separate note,
I very much appreciate the help that can be received here and there quite a few tutorial threads. The problem I think some people have, including me, is that what is written doesn't always make sense to those who don't live and breathe android. I'm fairly tech savvy (have built computers, know basic bash scripting, and have spent excessive amounts of time troubleshooting and hacking in Linux) but instructions like "flash stock RUU in hboot" don't make much sense until you've spent a lot of time reading.
Hasoon's tool is very close to what is needed. Hopefully whatever issue there is with the root option can be fixed. Or maybe it's just a matter of better understanding of how to use it.
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That's why we have an amaze bible thread bro, we have every and anything about the amaze from the simplest term broken down and explained, that includes but not limited to hboot, s-off, fastboot, bootloader, etc. Check it, you'll be glad you did.
droidux said:
As mentioned below, this might not be working for everyone. It pushed all the files for me but did not result in root. Flashing the superuser zip linked below is what finally worked for me.
On a separate note,
I very much appreciate the help that can be received here and there quite a few tutorial threads. The problem I think some people have, including me, is that what is written doesn't always make sense to those who don't live and breathe android. I'm fairly tech savvy (have built computers, know basic bash scripting, and have spent excessive amounts of time troubleshooting and hacking in Linux) but instructions like "flash stock RUU in hboot" don't make much sense until you've spent a lot of time reading.
Hasoon's tool is very close to what is needed. Hopefully whatever issue there is with the root option can be fixed. Or maybe it's just a matter of better understanding of how to use it.
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Google is your friend. I taught myself many things from Google before I asked a question. If I am TRULY stuck, I'll ask a question.
Look at the threads I made, I rarely ask a question because I found it from Google.
You can learn a lot by yourself and just searching stuff online. Not that hard lol
hasoon2000 said:
Google is your friend. I taught myself many things from Google before I asked a question. If I am TRULY stuck, I'll ask a question.
Look at the threads I made, I rarely ask a question because I found it from Google.
You can learn a lot by yourself and just searching stuff online. Not that hard lol
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I completely agree. I've taught myself tons about programming and such using Google, but you also have to have enough background knowledge to know what to look for and recognize when you find it. I've mostly asked questions here but it wasn't until I did a lot searching and trying things. Eventually, when something doesn't work you can stop and ask a question or keep messing around. In the later case, you either brick the phone or become one of the experts (after bricking the phone ).
Problem with google is that it often points to a thread here which invariably results in someone new asking a question that's been asked before. Happens in all forums.
Dark Nightmare said:
That's why we have an amaze bible thread bro, we have every and anything about the amaze from the simplest term broken down and explained, that includes but not limited to hboot, s-off, fastboot, bootloader, etc. Check it, you'll be glad you did.
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I did.

[Q] REALLY CONFUSED about Roms/Apps/Kernals

I feel like there is a huge gap of information I'm missing with regard to certain things people have been posting, like roms, apps and kernels.
I was able to root my SII i989 (tmobile usa) I have downloaded some apps from the Play store, as thats pretty straight forward. What confuses me is how to download these roms onto the phone. do i have to do it from my phone, or from my PC to phone?
a lot of times I dont even understand what certain things will do, im obviously steering clear of doing anything I dont understand. but I think there is a lot of implied knowledge in many posts (I dont blame you guys) but id appreciate a VERY VERY SIMPLE AND CLEAR guide.
thanks in advance :highfive:
Hi the guides are out there in the sticky threads at the top of list. My advice would be to find the forum specific to your model version and read. Once you know how to root and have acquired the necessary software then read how to recover your phone should anything happen. Once you have all this information and software then start to root. I have no background in software, IT or programming and I learnt the basics on this site. All the best
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HANDSY said:
Hi the guides are out there in the sticky threads at the top of list. My advice would be to find the forum specific to your model version and read. Once you know how to root and have acquired the necessary software then read how to recover your phone should anything happen. Once you have all this information and software then start to root. I have no background in software, IT or programming and I learnt the basics on this site. All the best
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thanks for the reply! I have been modding phones since my Nextel phones and through to my iphones, but I got this SII a couple months ago, I rooted it yesterday, but I feel like the guides youre talking about dont give enough details, lol. what im asking for is for someone to hold my hand the first time. lol
If you've already rooted it then that's the biggest step, in my opinion. Installing a new rom is relatively easy. Most devs give an installation guide in their thread, as you don't have the same model as me and all ROMs aren't installed in exactly the same I'm hesitant to "hold your hand". Have you found the forum specific to your model?
Users there may be better qualified to guide you. Happy flashing.
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DiploDroid said:
thanks for the reply! I have been modding phones since my Nextel phones and through to my iphones, but I got this SII a couple months ago, I rooted it yesterday, but I feel like the guides youre talking about dont give enough details, lol. what im asking for is for someone to hold my hand the first time. lol
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Why did you laugh out loud twice writing that?
You're in the wrong forum, and if you don't understand the terms you describe, ignore the stuff on this site and continue to enjoy your phone.
KERNALS
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Thanks for everyones replies, i found the correct forum.
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I thought it'd be handy for me to give you some of the following brief definitions.
Stock ROMs - Original/OEM Phone Firmwares made & developed by manufacturers i.e. Samsung, Sony, HTC, themselves. Comes with your phone.
Custom ROMs* - Firmwares that are developed by individuals (often built from Android Open Sources). Requires root to install these ROMs.
Apps - Android applications.
Kernels - Essential Android component; Execution of your Android operating system. Speed and battery life of your phone can be said to be mainly connected to it.
*Here's a compiled list of custom ROMs managed by Recognized Contributor GaboWinter.
To install (A.K.A. flash) a new ROM, it is done via your phone itself.
Usually the steps are:
1. Download the ROM in .zip format
2. Transfer the .zip to your phone (if you downloaded it into your computer)
3. BackUp your existing app data (using Titanium Backup App)
4. Reboot your phone into ClockWorkMod recovery mode
5. Perform a NANDRIOD Backup
6. Wipe Cache Partition + Wipe Dalvik Cache + Wipe Data/factory reset
7. Choose .zip file from your phone storage
8. Flash the .zip (You've installed a new ROM at this stage)
9. Reboot back into your system
10. Enjoy your new custom ROM.
Please correct me if I made a mistake somewhere.
don't forget to add
RIL
MODEM
it's KERNEL not KERNAL
keith: NANDROID backup also?
kmetek said:
keith: NANDROID backup also?
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[Q] Help

Ok I need help i have just Unlocked my prime , and I have a lot of questions. First let me say Im aking because i have already researched so please no smart a$$ comments! I am on ICS .28
1) what do I do next?
2) do i need to root or do the roms give me root
3) do i need to do nv flash i looked at the instructions and im lost.
4) I dont have any other progrms so not sure what i need
5) do I install clockwork recovery mod or twrp does it matter?
I really need help to make my prime great , please help!!!!!!
jaisan72980 said:
Ok I need help i have just Unlocked my prime , and I have a lot of questions. First let me say Im aking because i have already researched so please no smart a$$ comments !
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Simple advice: read more! The questions you ask are all very basic and have been answered in depth on this forum. It is really important you understand what you are doing before proceeding further since Asus in their wisdom have adopted a policy which makes their devices particularly easy to brick.
It is a very good thing you are on ICS so whether you find it difficult or not your first step must be to understand and implement NVFlash. This is your insurance policy and you really should go no further without it .
Why exactly did you unlock your Prime? What was the limitation or the roadblock that you ran into that unlocking solved?
Jgrimoldy said:
Why exactly did you unlock your Prime? What was the limitation or the roadblock that you ran into that unlocking solved?
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did you miss this part "to make my prime great"?
whycali said:
did you miss this part "to make my prime great"?
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Actually, I saw that. I was a little curious about specifics. Among the countless threads of folks bricking their Primes, it's amusing to read a justification of "to make it great".
I partially unlocked in order to replace the stock ROM with one that didn't have a gimped download manager. The default download manager will give a fake error and then actively delete the file upon completing any .APK (yes, it judges on the extension) download from a website that doesn't give it specific headers, which is used to stop people from pirating apps via common file sharing sites (which are not set to give these headers)... but also stops a lot of normal android dev page downloads from working as well (for example emulator programs not available in the market).
Previously I needed to download things with Opera (which has it's own download manager and thus doesn't pass files to the stock one) in order to get around this anti-piracy code, but that's just a chore. After swapping ROMs, I haven't had that happen (though the ROM I swapped to forgot to remove similar protection on bluetooth files, which I'm going to report now as soon as I get 10 damn posts).
Also when I updated to Jelly Bean, I lost root (Voodoo root keeper was used but it failed, read around to see I'm not the only one that had the root backup wiped out when doing the official Jelly Bean upgrade), and so far unlocking in order to be able to flash custom updates is the only way to regain it.
Anyways the OP will want to install some recovery.flash thing like TWRP so they can flash their own files to the ROM, like the su binary, which is needed to root.

Pardon my ignorance...terms, instructions, methods, etc

Being newly interested in rooting and tweaking my devices (started with my S3) there are a lot of terms that are mentioned in customizing threads that I do not understand, and a lot of those threads don't have detailed instructions for someone that's new to tweaking. Is there one post somewhere on xda that lists terms, methods, etc for newcomers like me?
I don't trust any forum other than xda because I simply think its the best forum for tweaking, etc so I don't really trust links outside xda. I also know that the way some things need to be done is device specific.
I'm confused about how to "flash" something in "recovery' (such as removing the wifi notification thread), flashing a custom recovery, using Goomanager to flash, etc. Don't get me wrong; I can follow detailed instructions as long as they are there......but if they aren't, that leaves me and a great deal of newcomers in the dark.
Some of these things are done via the phone and some have to be done via PC....and many times there aren't detailed instructions so I'm unsure what I an supposed to do and don't want to brick a $700 device.
So....is this information contained in all separate posts throughout the forum? Or is there one thread per device that details it? Being as some of these things are device specific, I'm hesitant to even look in other device forums.
Thanks for reading, and any assistance is appreciated.
wolfgrrl said:
Being newly interested in rooting and tweaking my devices (started with my S3) there are a lot of terms that are mentioned in customizing threads that I do not understand, and a lot of those threads don't have detailed instructions for someone that's new to tweaking. Is there one post somewhere on xda that lists terms, methods, etc for newcomers like me?
I don't trust any forum other than xda because I simply think its the best forum for tweaking, etc so I don't really trust links outside xda. I also know that the way some things need to be done is device specific.
I'm confused about how to "flash" something in "recovery' (such as removing the wifi notification thread), flashing a custom recovery, using Goomanager to flash, etc. Don't get me wrong; I can follow detailed instructions as long as they are there......but if they aren't, that leaves me and a great deal of newcomers in the dark.
Some of these things are done via the phone and some have to be done via PC....and many times there aren't detailed instructions so I'm unsure what I an supposed to do and don't want to brick a $700 device.
So....is this information contained in all separate posts throughout the forum? Or is there one thread per device that details it? Being as some of these things are device specific, I'm hesitant to even look in other device forums.
Thanks for reading, and any assistance is appreciated.
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Well, this can be a complex arena to play in. For the S4, you'll want to download Odin v3.07 and a copy of the stock ROM just in case you break something.
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289325
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189539
ROM = read-only memory - this is the part of your phone's internal storage you're not really supposed to be able to play with (like /system, or the phone's radio for example)
The act of "flashing" is writing data to ROM
Recovery just means that you should always be able to boot your device into this mode to RECOVER from a software problem; IE: flashing a bad ROM (IE: one that doesn't work and you can't start your phone anymore).
I don't really know a whole lot more than that, I just poke around and pretend like I do =)
OverkillSD said:
Well, this can be a complex arena to play in. For the S4, you'll want to download Odin v3.07 and a copy of the stock ROM just in case you break something.
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289325
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189539
ROM = read-only memory - this is the part of your phone's internal storage you're not really supposed to be able to play with (like /system, or the phone's radio for example)
The act of "flashing" is writing data to ROM
Recovery just means that you should always be able to boot your device into this mode to RECOVER from a software problem; IE: flashing a bad ROM (IE: one that doesn't work and you can't start your phone anymore).
I don't really know a whole lot more than that, I just poke around and pretend like I do =)
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Thanks As I learn more, I think I'm going to make a post that contains everything I learn, so others have it all in one place.
Well, there's a LOT to learn...like I said; complex arena. So much so that there's no way to make a single post take you from newbie to knowledgeable newbie in one read.
Then there's Google;
"what is rom"
"what is flashing rom"
"what is recovery mode android"
Eliminates the need for said post
Plus, by the time you get it all written, it will have all changed ^_^

[Q] Phone Will Not Flash New Rom, Encrypted, TeamWin Recovery

TeamWin Recovery Version: 2.5.0.0
I encrypted my device about two weeks ago. Today I tried flashing a new rom, which was Android 4.1.2. When it prompted me for my encryption password, I entered it correctly but it wouldn't accept it. I tried flashing another rom, which was 4.3, it accepted the encryption password but got bootlooped. My old device was on 4.3 to my belief. When I tried wiping /data in recovery it says it cannot mount /data. Help please?
Flash back to stock and decide if you want encryption or a device you want to flash.
That Won't Help.
imnuts said:
Flash back to stock and decide if you want encryption or a device you want to flash.
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I've tried Google and that already. Sarcasm will not fix my problem so if you don't have a solution please move on and stop spamming.
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Can anyone help?
So you used Odin and flashed your phone back to stock? No where in your post did you mention anything like that, or even allude to the fact that you flashed back to stock with Odin. If you want help, post better information, or figure it out yourself. Also, you can't have a device you want to be flash happy with on ROMs and an encrypted device. The two don't work, so you choose one or the other, not both.
Um...
imnuts said:
So you used Odin and flashed your phone back to stock? No where in your post did you mention anything like that, or even allude to the fact that you flashed back to stock with Odin. If you want help, post better information, or figure it out yourself. Also, you can't have a device you want to be flash happy with on ROMs and an encrypted device. The two don't work, so you choose one or the other, not both.
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...How can I fix this. I flashed it using my recovery.
imnuts said:
So you used Odin and flashed your phone back to stock? No where in your post did you mention anything like that, or even allude to the fact that you flashed back to stock with Odin. If you want help, post better information, or figure it out yourself. Also, you can't have a device you want to be flash happy with on ROMs and an encrypted device. The two don't work, so you choose one or the other, not both.
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Do you know how to do this or is this something you can't fix?
Read droidstyles thread at the top of this section. It has all of the information you will need to flash back to stock.
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*Sigh*
This is why XDA annoys me. The "Recognized Developers" waste their time and other forum members time about how what they typed wasn't good enough for them. They could save a lot more time just asking questions that would help them understand the situation rather that be a nanny and tell the user how they didn't type up to their expectations, what they can do to make them satisfied, and then not respond for another 30 minutes.
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This is why XDA annoys me. The "Recognized Developers" waste their time and other forum members time about how what they typed wasn't good enough for them. They could save a lot more time just asking questions that would help them understand the situation rather that be a nanny and tell the user how they didn't type up to their expectations, what they can do to make them satisfied, and then not respond for another 30 minutes.
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You screwed yourself by saying I wasn't be helpful and to stop the sarcasm. You want help, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Flashing back to stock is a very simple process and well documented here and in other Samsung device forums. If you can't figure it out on your own, pay someone to do it for you, and then leave your phone stock. Rule 1 of modifying your phone should always be know how to recover, which you apparently do not. And posts like the two you've now made in this thread are not how you get help, and will most certainly turn everyone else that may have offered it away as well, since you're apparently too good to do any work on your own and criticize people when they aren't spoon feeding you.
Um
imnuts said:
You screwed yourself by saying I wasn't be helpful and to stop the sarcasm. You want help, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Flashing back to stock is a very simple process and well documented here and in other Samsung device forums. If you can't figure it out on your own, pay someone to do it for you, and then leave your phone stock. Rule 1 of modifying your phone should always be know how to recover, which you apparently do not. And posts like the two you've now made in this thread are not how you get help, and will most certainly turn everyone else that may have offered it away as well, since you're apparently too good to do any work on your own and criticize people when they aren't spoon feeding you.
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He/she didn't bite the hand that fed them because you didn't help at all lol. I agree with this users statement and the only other complaint I have is how you need to make 10 posts before being able to post links but that I understand.

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