review of .28 update - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Gentlemen and ladies,
I am opening this thread for constructive feedback of the TFP in real world use after the .28 update. Please stay on topic, HELPFUL and RESPECTFUL. By having an open an honest forum, we can help drive development and troubleshooting. Please be thoughtful and give it some time so you get a good sense of the changes.
My review will be here sometime this week and I will update regularly.
First two hours:
General feeling is that it's is considerably faster and smoother. Swype actually functions like it should with no lag, which is huge for me. Wifi signal is stronger, went to the opposite side of the house which is through a brick wall , a refrigerator, and another wall, about 30 feet in total. Used to get 1 bar, now a solid 2, total signal loss of 36% on wifi analytics app. I did get two ANRs on Facebook using dolphin, got it on stock browser too. had this scenario twice so far: 2ANRoD, two ANR of death, on stock browser with flash heavy objects, I'll get two popups and wait doesn't fix it and browser crashed. Still Pleased so far. More to come.
After first full day (6/14/2012):
The happiness with the update is starting to fade a bit as some old problems remain. I cold rebooted to see if there was any improvement, (not really)
Browsing: I have been experiencing a few ANRs messages consistently, they are way less than .21, but a few time an hour. I have noticed that google news website no longer produces the ANR on dolphin, where previously it did. Some sites that are flash work great, others not so much. FB webpage creates the ANR message everytime. I do continue to get some hangs or web pages that do not load completely, but generally the experience is faster loading. Stock browser continues to perform better than Dolphin, so I have to switch back and forth a bit which is annoying. .28 is still a step in the right direction by clearly not up to par. From Gary's post, I look forward to the next update to clear this up.
Productivity: opening pdf files is noticeably faster but still EXTREMELY slow by comparison to my sgsII. (For example, my sgsII opens a 3mb pdf of 180 pages in less than a second, whereas the TFP takes at least 10 seconds or longer to load a 3mb file of 10 pages.) I find this to be unacceptable as I bought the TFP specifically for work related tasks. using swype is still better, some glitchiness but far less.
WiFi: still better than .21 consistently in my home. Signal has been noticeably improved. I am definitely pleased there.
UI: Definitely there is a sense of more smoothness and snappiness most of the time. The TFP is pretty tempermental at times with increased lag, slow downs, or out and out unresponsiveness for 10s or greater. Sometimes its perfectly fine with no rhyme or reason. Definitely an annoyance when this occurs.
Battery life: I haven't notice a huge difference yet, but my use patterns are typically 2-3hrs so i don't stress the battery too much, i do have a vacation coming up so we'll see then. I do notice on the that when the dock is plugged in, it transfers battery to the tablet sooner. A few weeks ago i had a class for 9 hours, i noticed the tab would discharge to almost 50% before the dock kicked in. Now, the dock kicks in right away. after about 30 minutes i'm down to 80%, as it charged the tab about 15% then seemed to stop charging it for a while. looking at the battery meter i notice that it made a small sine wave, kicks in a little, then lets the tab discharge a bit. cool. ps- can i request a better battery graph? maybe some numbers and xy lines?
24 hour impression: This update is a step in the right direction as there are some improvements, but those improvements by an large are hard to quantify, other than the WiFi. I believe that the website loading is better most of the time. I am definitely disappointed by the ANRs and processing; my belief is that there should be improved processing over my sgsII dual core. I'll say this now because it came to mind over the last 24 hours: though less than .21, erratic performance and continued problems nearly 7 months out from release, with an update that took a long time to come out makes me suspicious of larger issues. I believe that there are solutions, and .28 shows that things can be better, I begin to wonder how much of a time investment will make in the tf201 over the long run to get it to where it should be. Over the weekend I am going to be using the dock and probably playing more games, so I will round out my review at the five day mark.

Wifi/BT on the new firmware I am actually seeing an improvement now. I used to get about 1-2mb when using my headphones out of 20M. Now I'm seeing about 3-5.. so they messed with something good thankfully. It seems Netflix doesn't buffer for me as long as I'm getting 1-2mb down so I'll take anything better than it was
Browser was not an issue with ANR for me before but seems fine as well after the update I set my plugins to ondemand in Advanced settings. No wait messages yet

give it time to settle in though. people can't say update is really bad and haven't even ran it for more than an hour yet..lol just saying.
constructive criticism always good. ill vote.
for me, running this update over 2 weeks now, its been running great. battery life improved alot. wifi performance better(for me). no browser ANR or crash in 2 weeks. most graphic heavy games playable now without crashing. overall faster feeling device. no random reboots. I like this build way better than. 21..lmfao

No ANR messages so far (although I've only had the update for a half an hour or so). On 0.21 I would get the wait popup on a regular basis while using the stock browser and other apps such as Engadget. Things seem snappier overall but I think that may be primarily due to the absence of the ANR popup.
Its actually a little weird now, I got so used to reaching towards the screen to cancel the ANR popup and now I don't have to do that at all, I can just keep my hands on the keyboard/trackpad.

Wifi Direct seems to work, lets me connect to my Nexus now, but after its connected though not sure what I can do with it. I looked in File Manager for it but not sure where it would be

Super happy thus far......
went from......
GPS.....V6.9.16 to.......V6.9.20
Bluetooth....V9.27 to......V6.9.29
Wifi....V6.1.1.22 to...........V6.1.1.24
Kernel.....2.6.39.4-00003-g12de84f [email protected]#1 to.....2.6.39.4 [email protected]#1

Not much improvement
2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'

roofy said:
2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'
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Did you reboot? Do that so the update 'settles'.

roofy said:
2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'
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Troll much? I mean seriously this is your first post.

Been using the update for about 2 hours. Had one ANR while setting up face unlock, but since then it has been phenomenal. All games play now, couldn't play shadowgun, riptide or dead space before. Web browsing is incredibly smooth. Haven't done wifi tests yet, but I can tell that it has improved. Very happy with the update.
Face unlock is stupid....

Suprisingly wifi has improved for me too.
I tested right before the ota on a fresh boot and right after in the same spot
Averages Before (On a 18mbit up/down connection):
Download: 2mbps
Upload: 3mbps
After:
Download: 5mbps
Upload: 7mbps
I am VERY happy with this ota.

Download went well, but I could tell that there was major upgrade in firmware just when putting in my password. WiFi is much better, website pop open. The web moves faster then on mine laptop. I like it! Please do make sure to reboot or do a soft reboot before running with it, you will notice the difference.

roofy said:
2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'
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Really glad you signed up, for that single post!
I just want to say that it's nice to see that Asus, in spite of the fact that they've since released the TF300 and will soon be releasing the Prime Infinity, are still working to improve the Transformer Prime, and haven't given up on it!
I, for one, appreciate their efforts!
My Prime has been very stable before the update, and I've had no complaints about wifi. I don't really use GPS on my Prime, using my car's GPS and my Thunderbolt much more often.
The one issue I have is the task manager will on occasion give me a "Task Manager has Quit" message, or something to that effect. Hopefully, that'll be resolved, but again, it only happens maybe once every three, four days.
I do like the face unlock feature, and the ability to show stats after locking the status bar at the bottom is a nice touch, if slightly unnecessary. My battery life has never been a problem, as I generally have over 40% in the evening, even after heavy use. I always charge it when I go to sleep.
I do hope that this update solves issues that I realize other people have been having.

ShelW said:
Really glad you signed up, for that single post!
I just want to say that it's nice to see that Asus, in spite of the fact that they've since released the TF300 and will soon be releasing the Prime Infinity, are still working to improve the Transformer Prime, and haven't given up on it!
I, for one, appreciate their efforts!
My Prime has been very stable before the update, and I've had no complaints about wifi. I don't really use GPS on my Prime, using my car's GPS and my Thunderbolt much more often.
The one issue I have is the task manager will on occasion give me a "Task Manager has Quit" message, or something to that effect. Hopefully, that'll be resolved, but again, it only happens maybe once every three, four days.
I do like the face unlock feature, and the ability to show stats after locking the status bar at the bottom is a nice touch, if slightly unnecessary. My battery life has never been a problem, as I generally have over 40% in the evening, even after heavy use. I always charge it when I go to sleep.
I do hope that this update solves issues that I realize other people have been having.
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yeah, Asus task manager has been buggy since the beginning. it looks like they trying to improve it though. or at least its looks..lol

Installed update, rebooted after the first boot, as mentioned a couple of times. Restored root with Rootkeeper. Had 2 ANR in the space of one minute while trying to load www.hotnews.ro (the desktop version). Chrome doesn't seem to do ANRs, although it also froze for 1-2 seconds a couple of times (and is also definitely more sluggish than the stock browser during page load).
Doing stuff during market updates is much less irritating now, seems to move better overall.
Will keep testing.

adancau said:
Installed update, rebooted after the first boot, as mentioned a couple of times. Restored root with Rootkeeper. Had 2 ANR in the space of one minute while trying to load www.hotnews.ro (the desktop version). Chrome doesn't seem to do ANRs, although it also froze for 1-2 seconds a couple of times (and is also definitely more sluggish than the stock browser during page load).
Doing stuff during market updates is much less irritating now, seems to move better overall.
Will keep testing.
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I just tried that site you mentioned. it loaded up fine for me with no problem. no ANR. cool looking news site. too bad I don't understand that language

Can we keep root with OTA root keeper?

Yes we can. Just restored root about two minutes ago.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk 2

I am seeing alot of ANRs with the facebook app. Specifically, it occurs more often and responses slower the further down I scroll; until it reaches a point where the app will no longer respond even after waiting a while. G+ on the other hand seems to be smoother.
I have gotten 1 ANR with chrome, but after waiting it started responding again.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-6

wifi is better. Over all feel smoother. Tried stock browser still has ANR so I will still use Opera Mobile.
face unlock is neat...now i need to remember my pattern now in case face not working

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Reboot-bad battery issues for some-suspect bad update/app to be the cause

Hello guys
Being a long time member, and having rooted many of my devices before (Xoom, HTC Sensation etc) I have seen complaints like people are posting where some here are experiencing no battery/rebooting issues(like me) while others are experiencing the opposite. The first thing that any experienced developer here on XDA would tell you is that something went wrong when updating to the new .13 update, which is why some are experiencing problems, while others are not. It does not make sense that a good majority of us, have no issues...if the new .13 update was bad/faulty, then it would affect all of us, not just some. I would highly recommend that people with issues reformat/start from scratch, as this has helped others with similar issues. If this does not help, then unfortunately you just experience a bad update, which of course the only fix would be is to try to reinstall the update (easy to do if rooted) or wait for a new update from Asus.
Also, if your battery is dying quickly, check to see if it is warm to the touch even if you are not using it. If so, then this would definitely point to an app trying to do something in the background without your knowledge..maybe there is an app trying to sync but your wifi is off, or an app that you installed that does not play nice with ICS. I would suggest that those with problems can list their installed apps, and those without issues can see if they have any of the apps on their devices...this can help narrow the issue down and hopefully find the culprit.
Thanx
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Hello guys
Being a long time member, and having rooted many of my devices before (Xoom, HTC Sensation etc) I have seen complaints like people are posting where some here are experiencing no battery/rebooting issues(like me) while others are experiencing the opposite. The first thing that any experienced developer here on XDA would tell you is that something went wrong when updating to the new .13 update, which is why some are experiencing problems, while others are not. It does not make sense that a good majority of us, have no issues...if the new .13 update was bad/faulty, then it would affect all of us, not just some. I would highly recommend that people with issues reformat/start from scratch, as this has helped others with similar issues. If this does not help, then unfortunately you just experience a bad update, which of course the only fix would be is to try to reinstall the update (easy to do if rooted) or wait for a new update from Asus.
Also, if your battery is dying quickly, check to see if it is warm to the touch even if you are not using it. If so, then this would definitely point to an app trying to do something in the background without your knowledge..maybe there is an app trying to sync but your wifi is off, or an app that you installed that does not play nice with ICS. I would suggest that those with problems can list their installed apps, and those without issues can see if they have any of the apps on their devices...this can help narrow the issue down and hopefully find the culprit.
Thanx
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All fair points, but many people suspect that there are at least two batches of Primes floating around with different hardware. After all, even before this update, there were groups of people that had freezes and reboots and others who had none.
Another telling point is that as far as I can tell, .13 update completely fixed Primes that were previously having sleep of death and reboot problems, and caused sleep of death, reboot and battery problems only on Primes that were previously working fine. This also suggests two different hardware sets to me (e.g., they tested the .13 update only/mostly on the set of Primes that had previous problems).
the bad update/ flash/ application as a culprit to all the Primes problems went out the window long ago this is all horse**** the problem is with the tegra3 in some way and different hardware variances in X Prime vs B Prime vs Z Prime etc....etc...etc...
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All fair points, but many people suspect that there are at least two batches of Primes floating around with different hardware. After all, even before this update, there were groups of people that had freezes and reboots and others who had none.
Another telling point is that as far as I can tell, .13 update completely fixed Primes that were previously having sleep of death and reboot problems, and caused sleep of death, reboot and battery problems only on Primes that were previously working fine. This also suggests two different hardware sets to me (e.g., they tested the .13 update only/mostly on the set of Primes that had previous problems).
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But that doesn't make sense either, because I had no rebooting issues before and no battery issues after updating to .13.
What we need here is hard data evidence from something such as a battery/hardware/resource monitor, which I have not seen from anyone with battery issues.
I don't have the issue so there is really nothing for me to monitor and gather data from.
Just had this issue pop up. Was using my Prime this morning on the charger, closed the screen (have the dock) pulled the plug put it in my bag for the day. Went to class, and then to work pulled it out at 6pm to check out a new note taking app and found my Prime to be HOT, like I left in in the car on a sunny day hot. Opened it up and it wouldn't come to life, held the on/off till it "shut off" then powered it back on. Battery life is 80% prime 14% dock. As requested my apps are as follows.
AdFree
Adobe Air
Adobe Flash
Amazon Kindle
AnTuTu Benchmark
B&N Nook
BatteryCalibration
Battleheart
Beautiful Widgets
BusyBox
CacheMate
Chrome Beta
Dolphin Browser HD
Dropbox
Elixer
Elixer Widget
Emit
Exactly
Galaxy Pack
GameBoid
GenPlusDroid
Google+
GPS Test
Hacker's Keyboard
LogMeIn
Mame4Droid
Muffin Knight
MX Video Player
N64oid
Netflix
PicSpeed
QR Droid
Rom Buddy
Rom Gripper
SD Speed Increase
SD Tools
Skype
Speed Test
Spirit
Stick it!
Stumbler Tablet
Titanium Backup/pro
Voodoo OTA RootKeeper
WiFi Analyzer
wow, didn't realize I had so many apps.
tigertechmi said:
Just had this issue pop up. Was using my Prime this morning on the charger, closed the screen (have the dock) pulled the plug put it in my bag for the day. Went to class, and then to work pulled it out at 6pm to check out a new note taking app and found my Prime to be HOT, like I left in in the car on a sunny day hot. Opened it up and it wouldn't come to life, held the on/off till it "shut off" then powered it back on. Battery life is 80% prime 14% dock. As requested my apps are as follows.
AdFree
Adobe Air
Adobe Flash
Amazon Kindle
AnTuTu Benchmark
B&N Nook
BatteryCalibration
Battleheart
Beautiful Widgets
BusyBox
CacheMate
Chrome Beta
Dolphin Browser HD
Dropbox
Elixer
Elixer Widget
Emit
Exactly
Galaxy Pack
GameBoid
GenPlusDroid
Google+
GPS Test
Hacker's Keyboard
LogMeIn
Mame4Droid
Muffin Knight
MX Video Player
N64oid
Netflix
PicSpeed
QR Droid
Rom Buddy
Rom Gripper
SD Speed Increase
SD Tools
Skype
Speed Test
Spirit
Stick it!
Stumbler Tablet
Titanium Backup/pro
Voodoo OTA RootKeeper
WiFi Analyzer
wow, didn't realize I had so many apps.
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That's not alot..lol. that's a lil bit. I have most of what you have n have no battery issues. Ill look closer n cross refermce with mines to let you know what I don't have. I have wayyyy to many apps to list.. probably over 200.
Crazy how my prime is never affected negatively from these updates. Ill check n see.
tigertechmi said:
Just had this issue pop up. Was using my Prime this morning on the charger, closed the screen (have the dock) pulled the plug put it in my bag for the day. Went to class, and then to work pulled it out at 6pm to check out a new note taking app and found my Prime to be HOT, like I left in in the car on a sunny day hot. Opened it up and it wouldn't come to life, held the on/off till it "shut off" then powered it back on. Battery life is 80% prime 14% dock. As requested my apps are as follows.
AdFree
Adobe Air
Adobe Flash
Amazon Kindle
AnTuTu Benchmark
B&N Nook
BatteryCalibration
Battleheart
Beautiful Widgets
BusyBox
CacheMate
Chrome Beta
Dolphin Browser HD
Dropbox
Elixer
Elixer Widget
Emit
Exactly
Galaxy Pack
GameBoid
GenPlusDroid
Google+
GPS Test
Hacker's Keyboard
LogMeIn
Mame4Droid
Muffin Knight
MX Video Player
N64oid
Netflix
PicSpeed
QR Droid
Rom Buddy
Rom Gripper
SD Speed Increase
SD Tools
Skype
Speed Test
Spirit
Stick it!
Stumbler Tablet
Titanium Backup/pro
Voodoo OTA RootKeeper
WiFi Analyzer
wow, didn't realize I had so many apps.
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If your TFP is hot it could be an indication that the processor is running something and causing heat.
Try an app like SystemPanel to monitor resource usage. You may have to get the paid version in order to track app resource usage history
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel
Here is another good website to find other apps to monitor usage and find out what exactly is using your battery.
http://android.appstorm.net/roundup...nitor-usage-stats-and-tweak-system-utilities/
Have people experiencing the issues gotten the OTA or did they do the update via file where you system partition is formatted? Wonder if some file(s) didn't get updated properly via OTA but work fine via .zip update.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
unknown_owner said:
Have people experiencing the issues gotten the OTA or did they do the update via file where you system partition is formatted? Wonder if some file(s) didn't get updated properly via OTA but work fine via .zip update.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
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That's actually a pretty good question! Along with posting a list of apps...thinking a widget is trying to sync constantly?? Also, have you guys checked your app intervals...too many apps syncing at a low interval will kill your battery
I couldn't do the OTA, so I had to do the wipe and full install from .zip
unknown_owner said:
Have people experiencing the issues gotten the OTA or did they do the update via file where you system partition is formatted? Wonder if some file(s) didn't get updated properly via OTA but work fine via .zip update.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
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So is your Prime working fine?
Sent from my HTC Legend using xda premium
MRCANNADY said:
That's actually a pretty good question! Along with posting a list of apps...thinking a widget is trying to sync constantly?? Also, have you guys checked your app intervals...too many apps syncing at a low interval will kill your battery
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Although I didn't suffer from issues here ln battery, after hearing about it, I went in and changed all intervals and cut off anything unnecessary. I especially made sure to raise email interval. As that's the thing that goes off the most. When it does it also causes the audio to go off constantly. So far I've been getting even better battery life than before in deep sleep. Actually very impressed how lil energy is used while in deep sleep. Before o took my screenshot and used tablet, it was in deep sleep for over 7-8hrs. And didn't budge from 100%. That's pretty impressive.
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So is your Prime working fine?
Sent from my HTC Legend using xda premium
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Yes! My wifi signal strength matches my Moto Xoom, I haven't had one reboot..GPS is weak but I honestly didn't buy the tab for that (Ipad users don't have it, but who cares its not a navigation device) . My 1080p movie playback is flawless, colors are rich. This is truly a sexy, powerful beast of a tablet! I'm sure that we all can agree on that...I'm sure that Asus will work out the kinks that some are having soon.
Everywhere I go, even Ipad owners love the way this Tablet looks, especially the screen display
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Although I didn't suffer from issues here ln battery, after hearing about it, I went in and changed all intervals and cut off anything unnecessary. I especially made sure to raise email interval. As that's the thing that goes off the most. When it does it also causes the audio to go off constantly. So far I've been getting even better battery life than before in deep sleep. Actually very impressed how lil energy is used while in deep sleep. Before o took my screenshot and used tablet, it was in deep sleep for over 7-8hrs. And didn't budge from 100%. That's pretty impressive.
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What's up guy, still spreading those chrome rumors??
Yeah, I'm wondering if people have their update intervals low an the system is constantly trying to update apps in the background?? This would explain the warm/hot backs of the Primes by the batteries for some
The battery, sleep of death and random reboot IT IS CAUSE BY THE NEW OTA .13
i have factory restore 3 times no app install, same problem
i have push the OTA .13 MANUALLY TWICE same problem without installing app.
there's no way to get around this, only a new firmware fix or backflash to .11 only solution for us having problem with this new .13
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eduardmc said:
The battery, sleep of death and random reboot IT IS CAUSE BY THE NEW OTA .13
i have factory restore 3 times no app install, same problem
i have push the OTA .13 MANUALLY TWICE same problem without installing app.
there's no way to get around this, only a new firmware fix or backflash to .11 only solution for us having problem with this new .13
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
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So then why is it only affecting some, but not others. Lets rule out all possibilities an not pretend like we know things for certain when you don't
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So then why is it only affecting some, but not others. Lets rule out all possibilities an not pretend like we know things for certain when you don't
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Why are any users experiencing the range of issues this tablet is presenting while others are not? We have 3-5 major bugs that are sporadically scattered across a wide range of serial numbers. I believe its downright obvious that TFPs have a variation in hardware quality and/or quality control issues. It's fracking embarrassing. To say that only some people are having this battery issue just continues to follow the trend that has been ASUS the past 3 months.
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Why are any users experiencing the range of issues this tablet is presenting while others are not? We have 3-5 major bugs that are sporadically scattered across a wide range of serial numbers. I believe its downright obvious that TFPs have a variation in hardware quality and/or quality control issues. It's fracking embarrassing. To say that only some people are having this battery issue just continues to follow the trend that has been ASUS the past 3 months.
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Im guessing the reason for most of these problems is going from HC to ICS without a full wipe.
I have flashed thousands of roms on my devices since Windows Mobile 6.1 and when portion of people have issues they are told to check md5 sums and full wipe.
A little from column a and a little from column b perhaps.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Wipe? Doesn't an OTA format everything?
nyijedi said:
All fair points, but many people suspect that there are at least two batches of Primes floating around with different hardware. After all, even before this update, there were groups of people that had freezes and reboots and others who had none.
Another telling point is that as far as I can tell, .13 update completely fixed Primes that were previously having sleep of death and reboot problems, and caused sleep of death, reboot and battery problems only on Primes that were previously working fine. This also suggests two different hardware sets to me (e.g., they tested the .13 update only/mostly on the set of Primes that had previous problems).
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This.
I had no sleep of death problem until the update, and it's ridiculous how fast it's burning through battery now.

about to return second prime and sure won't buying a third one

I'm on my second prime. first one had nasty reboot/boot loop problem, see here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462704.
The second one started good, no reboots and seems to work ok for me. although GPS doesn't work at all in any conditions. I knew that and couldn't blame others. wifi is weak but in my smaller home, I can manage to use it.
then the thing broke again after .13 update. blackscreen/reboots about 3 times a charge. Battery drain is about 2-3% per hour while sleeping. one of the most important reason I wanted the prime was good battery life. I guess now I have no reason to keep it. some other company may have my 500 bucks when they release their tegra 3 tab.
leo221 said:
I'm on my second prime. first one had nasty reboot/boot loop problem, see here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462704.
The second one started good, no reboots and seems to work ok for me. although GPS doesn't work at all in any conditions. I knew that and couldn't blame others. wifi is weak but in my smaller home, I can manage to use it.
then the thing broke again after .13 update. blackscreen/reboots about 3 times a charge. Battery drain is about 2-3% per hour while sleeping. one of the most important reason I wanted the prime was good battery life. I guess now I have no reason to keep it. some other company may have my 500 bucks when they release their tegra 3 tab.
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Sorry bro! Seems like the latest update did bonk some primes, especially that sleep bug. Hope you have better luck with your next purchase.
Are you claiming the .13 update gave you problems? Because that is news to me and I have not heard anything about it. There certainly aren't 5 threads on the first page alone full of people complaining about it
I just got a new one from BB and I recommend not doing the update if you get a new one.
If you exchange it again wait and check the forums for future updates that completely squashes all known bugs.
leo221 said:
I'm on my second prime. first one had nasty reboot/boot loop problem, see here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462704.
The second one started good, no reboots and seems to work ok for me. although GPS doesn't work at all in any conditions. I knew that and couldn't blame others. wifi is weak but in my smaller home, I can manage to use it.
then the thing broke again after .13 update. blackscreen/reboots about 3 times a charge. Battery drain is about 2-3% per hour while sleeping. one of the most important reason I wanted the prime was good battery life. I guess now I have no reason to keep it. some other company may have my 500 bucks when they release their tegra 3 tab.
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You know you can go back to the .11 update, right? I did, even though my only issue was slightly reduced battery life on .13.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
Sorry to hear that. Besides HW acceleration I have not seen enough to make me upgrade. I'm still on HC 3.2.1 and don't have any issue besides the known gps. I'm gonna wait till everything settles down.
leo221 said:
I'm on my second prime. first one had nasty reboot/boot loop problem, see here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462704.
The second one started good, no reboots and seems to work ok for me. although GPS doesn't work at all in any conditions. I knew that and couldn't blame others. wifi is weak but in my smaller home, I can manage to use it.
then the thing broke again after .13 update. blackscreen/reboots about 3 times a charge. Battery drain is about 2-3% per hour while sleeping. one of the most important reason I wanted the prime was good battery life. I guess now I have no reason to keep it. some other company may have my 500 bucks when they release their tegra 3 tab.
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Good luck and I can't wait to see your post about that next "flawless " tablet that you believe you will buy. Not to mention that lack of updates that would surely not come to fruitation. But you are making a good decision for yourself and again good luck.
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My opinion: if you return and stop using a device just because of some software issues caused by a patch in the early stages of a device's lifespan, you dont really need/want that device. EVERY product with software will have some software related issues at one time.
And this is android. Bootloader gonna be unlocked any day now. Custom roms usually are better than stock roms. And they'll be coming. So chill
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Dianne Hackborn from Google's already said here that the h/w acceleration in ICS is the same as HC. The low-level code from HC was the base for ICS and changes were mostly UI based. ICS is a much bigger deal coming from GB than HC.
There you go..lol. you love you some Dianne she does make great points n her article though.
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Dianne Hackborn from Google's already said here that the h/w acceleration in ICS is the same as HC. The low-level code from HC was the base for ICS and changes were mostly UI based. ICS is a much bigger deal coming from GB than HC.
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Thanks for the info. Even more reason for me not to upgrade =). When I did upgrade my 2nd Prime the browser and some apps were smoother and the overall usage was smoother. But either way I'm happy with HC for now.
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I think I've confirmed .15 for battery life issues.

Well I had two choices last night, exchange my perfect transformer prime (working gps/wifi, no bleeding) in for another one due to averaging 4-5 hours of battery life after .15 on powersaving - or to unlock the bootloader and test to confirm it's not the battery.
I decided the more risky choice to void the warranty because I didn't want to gamble getting a bad unit. Installed CWM, flashed virtuous (.14 version) - battery is performing quite well so far.
Still need to test it a few discharge cycles but it's looking like .15 was a bad egg at this point.
Um, er... Battery life on mine is much better on .15. I can get 10 hours ebook reading, light browsing, etc. 7 hours on heavy browsing, video, etc. The only thing that would take me down to less than 7 hours is heavy gaming (e.g., Shadowgun). And this is all running on Balanced mode with auto brightness.
I haven't heard of poor battery life being a hardware-specific issue (although it's possible, I suppose). But it's also not specific to .15. I'd think that anything that limits to 4-5 hours is either than quite unusual hardware problem or some app or background service that you were running that was causing problems.
There were at least 3 reports that I'm aware of that .15 was a battery killer. My battery life was never amazing (think my tf101 gets better life) but on .15 it was just ridiculous - which lead to speculation that my unit may have a bad battery. As far as apps go - BBS said my browser was killing my battery - but I'm using the same browser on a different rom without as serious of a drain.
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There were at least 3 reports that I'm aware of that .15 was a battery killer. My battery life was never amazing (think my tf101 gets better life) but on .15 it was just ridiculous - which lead to speculation that my unit may have a bad battery. As far as apps go - BBS said my browser was killing my battery - but I'm using the same browser on a different rom without as serious of a drain.
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you have to think about it, that's only 3 reports out of over 320 xda prime owners here. I've got great battery life also with .15. well at least you getting good battery life with virtuous rom. that's all that matters.
.15 fixed all battery drain problems that all people experienced with .14. .14 caused significant battery problems for everyone without exception, and .15 fixed it for everyone, without exception.
If you're having battery problems, it's definitely not related to .15.
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.15 fixed all battery drain problems that all people experienced with .14. .14 caused significant battery problems for everyone without exception, and .15 fixed it for everyone, without exception.
If you're having battery problems, it's definitely not related to .15.
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You're joking, right? I would actually amend my own post to say that it COULD be .15, but likely if there's some app that a person is running that doesn't play well with .15 for some reason. My point was only that I would look hard at running apps and services before concluding either that the hardware is bad or that .15 is NECESSARILY bad, in and of itself.
Doesn't mean, though, that .15 couldn't be interacting with something on this user's machine that previous updates did not...
Why'd you do it, ickkii, why?
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Well I had two choices last night, exchange my perfect transformer prime (working gps/wifi, no bleeding) in for another one due to averaging 4-5 hours of battery life after .15 on powersaving - or to unlock the bootloader and test to confirm it's not the battery.
I decided the more risky choice to void the warranty because I didn't want to gamble getting a bad unit. Installed CWM, flashed virtuous (.14 version) - battery is performing quite well so far.
Still need to test it a few discharge cycles but it's looking like .15 was a bad egg at this point.
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Question. Why void warranty to find out? Why not just root it, and go back to stock .14 Asus official image, using the "replace the blob" process in the dev section? I had some issues with .15 myself - the very first FW update that did not agree with my Prime. Nothing disasterous, but some static lines, and bobbing of the screen a few times, but it blew away the best GPS numbers I had achieved to date (I know, I know, but I am stubbornly hanging onto the dream, LOL!) Anyway, I rolled back to stock 14 and all is well again. Unless you had issues there as well?
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Doesn't mean, though, that .15 couldn't be interacting with something on this user's machine that previous updates did not...
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And that is EXACTLY why we need Asus to provide SOME kind of documentation with these updates, otherwise, it's like we are all walking around in the dark, applying everything they put out there. I can see the logistic issues with changelogs, but really, this method is madness. I commend Asus for providing fixes, but without documentation, they have limited value to people trying to resolve an issue or 3
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Question. Why void warranty to find out? Why not just root it, and go back to stock .14 Asus official image, using the "replace the blob" process in the dev section? I had some issues with .15 myself - the very first FW update that did not agree with my Prime. Nothing disasterous, but some static lines, and bobbing of the screen a few times, but it blew away the best GPS numbers I had achieved to date (I know, I know, but I am stubbornly hanging onto the dream, LOL!) Anyway, I rolled back to stock 14 and all is well again. Unless you had issues there as well?
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that's what I trying to tell him in his other thread instead of going the drastic route. but if its working well for him then so be it. only thing is, flashing that rom wouldn't really tell you what the issue was. that virtuous rom going to get decent battery life anyways because its optimized, Zip aligned, and stripped of some stock apps.
I'm so tempted to try out Virtuous rom. all I here is good things about it. plus it has 1.6Ghz overclock built into Asus quick settings.
Kudos I guess? lol I'm having to resist that damn Unlock apk like crazy
I'm hitting on the second day on .15 with my dock At this moment the dock is at 17% and the tablet at 74%. Battery statistics are jacked up thanks to the dock so I can't provide a screenshot of my time off the charger
Hope ASUS or Virtuous and the like will somehow fix that so we can get an accurate look at our batteries even with the dock.
I have noticed though, that .14 was loving 102 MHz and .15 loves to sit at 475 MHz. Seems they put the same idea of a fix for .15 vs .14 as they did .13 vs .11, they're just leaving the lower states actually intact. I mean, they're being used, just not as much as they were.
Only problem I had with battery life was on .13 - .14 and .15 have been back to normal on my C1, no issues here...
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Question. Why void warranty to find out? Why not just root it, and go back to stock .14 Asus official image, using the "replace the blob" process in the dev section? I had some issues with .15 myself - the very first FW update that did not agree with my Prime. Nothing disasterous, but some static lines, and bobbing of the screen a few times, but it blew away the best GPS numbers I had achieved to date (I know, I know, but I am stubbornly hanging onto the dream, LOL!) Anyway, I rolled back to stock 14 and all is well again. Unless you had issues there as well?
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And that is EXACTLY why we need Asus to provide SOME kind of documentation with these updates, otherwise, it's like we are all walking around in the dark, applying everything they put out there. I can see the logistic issues with changelogs, but really, this method is madness. I commend Asus for providing fixes, but without documentation, they have limited value to people trying to resolve an issue or 3
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because i didn't feel comfortable with the brick rate. I still have 30 day exchange with gamestop anyway... I doubt they boot their exchanged units into recovery to check if the bootloader is unlocked - and even if they do, I'm exchanging it through gamestop's rules - not necessarily asus's.
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Kudos I guess? lol I'm having to resist that damn Unlock apk like crazy
I'm hitting on the second day on .15 with my dock At this moment the dock is at 17% and the tablet at 74%. Battery statistics are jacked up thanks to the dock so I can't provide a screenshot of my time off the charger
Hope ASUS or Virtuous and the like will somehow fix that so we can get an accurate look at our batteries even with the dock.
I have noticed though, that .14 was loving 102 MHz and .15 loves to sit at 475 MHz. Seems they put the same idea of a fix for .15 vs .14 as they did .13 vs .11, they're just leaving the lower states actually intact. I mean, they're being used, just not as much as they were.
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Do you think a tool similar to setcpu would work on tegra 3 to lower the minimal cpu speed? Perhaps that could be the problem. In sleep my unit purrs, but I'm thinking the tegra 3 could also be running too high on average for remedial processes, kind of like you said.
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Do you think a tool similar to setcpu would work on tegra 3 to lower the minimal cpu speed? Perhaps that could be the problem. In sleep my unit purrs, but I'm thinking the tegra 3 could also be running too high on average for remedial processes, kind of like you said.
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Yes and no. Others seem to successfully be using it.
Whenever I use my SetCPU I'm greeted with random reboots, especially if I use profiles to try and underclock.
You might could use ViperControl or the other in the dev section to at least manually set it through terminal emulator to run some tests as to whether or not that is your issue.
But the higher CPU states are definitely what were killing my battery on .13 and now .15 (although it's not nearly as bad... for me... but it did provide me with my first random reboot caused by the system).
I've used both SetCPU and Vipercontrol since picking up my TFP, and not once under any firmware so far have I had any random reboots.. AT ALL. Everything works fine.
Did you ever try a factory reset and run it stock for a day or two to see if it went away? It's an easy way to rule out an app causing it.
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Did you ever try a factory reset and run it stock for a day or two to see if it went away? It's an easy way to rule out an app causing it.
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I had it stock for 5 or 6 hours last night and it was still .15 and the battery usage didn't seem to improve.
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I had it stock for 5 or 6 hours last night and it was still .15 and the battery usage didn't seem to improve.
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That's quite odd as I have great battery on same firmware. Don't know what to tell you man.
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Yes and no. Others seem to successfully be using it.
Whenever I use my SetCPU I'm greeted with random reboots, especially if I use profiles to try and underclock.
You might could use ViperControl or the other in the dev section to at least manually set it through terminal emulator to run some tests as to whether or not that is your issue.
But the higher CPU states are definitely what were killing my battery on .13 and now .15 (although it's not nearly as bad... for me... but it did provide me with my first random reboot caused by the system).
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I think I may need to undervolt my tablet.
Oh absolutely. After undervolting, my phone went from 1 to 3 days use.
What am I looking at here though, what's that app? Just another way of looking at the percentages spent at each state huh?
That's a solid amount at the 1.2 GHz there. I only show that kind of usage if I forget and leave Shadowgun or GTA III running while I take one of my strolls around town. Even spending an hour and a half on Skype last night, the majority of my time was spent around 880 MHz.
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What am I looking at here though, what's that app? Just another way of looking at the percentages spent at each state huh?
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It's setcpu, info, time in state. thought you said it caused reboots for you. Are you using an old version

Android 4.2.2, did Google finally get it right?

This latest release has me really pleased with my Nexus 10's speed, response, and stability. It appears they got it right for the use of my tablet. :victory: It will be very interesting to see what the priorities and advantages will be going forward with custom ROM and kernel development!
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This latest release has me really pleased with my Nexus 10's speed, response, and stability. It appears they got it right for the use of my tablet. :victory: It will be very interesting to see what the priorities and advantages will be going forward with custom ROM and kernel development!
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I'm thinking it's not better at this point...my device still powers off when I put it on or take it off a charger....It's my one complaint from an otherwise flawless device.
I used to get random reboots. Now it never reboots!
So 4.2.2 is great on mine.
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I'm thinking it's not better at this point...my device still powers off when I put it on or take it off a charger....It's my one complaint from an otherwise flawless device.
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Really sounds like something is not right. I've never had that issue with my N10, and have been using it heavily pretty much every day since early December.
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I used to get random reboots. Now it never reboots!
So 4.2.2 is great on mine.
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Yup. I really liked it before, but now with 4.2.2 it seems that this lone issue was finally resolved. I'm going on 61 hours uptime since installing the update, and haven't had a single hiccup. Fast, smooth... Fantastic. Loving it.
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The OTA has fixed every issue I've had with my N10. Wifi and bluetooth are rock solid now, I've had 0 reboots, and chrome no longer freezes my device!
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I'm thinking it's not better at this point...my device still powers off when I put it on or take it off a charger....It's my one complaint from an otherwise flawless device.
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Sounds like you have a hardware issue.
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do you know for which countries is the 4.2.2 update available? i did not receive any update (Bucharest/Romania). Thanks
They finally fixed the time bug that caused mine to constantly be behind 10 minutes.
My experience is a little mixed. I play a lot of MC4 without any stutters or lag prior to 4.2.2. But now I am getting constant stutters during multiplayer game play. I found myself going back to 4.2.1 to be able to play my MC4. That was the only issue that I encountered while on 4.2.2.
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Since upgrading to 4.2.2, I have not had chrome freeze or the n10 reboot. That's wonderful!!!
I have Battery Monitor Widget Pro running with an alarm set if the battery hits 95d f. Since 4.2.2 I had the alarm go off while charging with the pogo cable and running daydream 'colors' (first time trying daydreams) and again when a 30 minute youtube video playing through hdmi (no charger). The temp went up in less than 5 minutes after the video/animation started. Felt extremely hot around the camera. Never had that happen before, only time the temp went up was after 30 minutes of a graphical game play.
Battery temp is usually around 82, almost never above 90f and certainly not in 5-10 minutes. Gonna keep an eye on it, but it is a new problem for me and related to the video.
After update to 4.2.2 my bettary is bad. :'( on Android 4.2.1 I usually get about 7-8 hours screen on, but on 4.2.2 I get 5-6 hour screen on. But with 4.2.2 my Nexus 10 more fast and smooth
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my device still powers off when I put it on or take it off a charger....It's my one complaint from an otherwise flawless device.
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This is a hardware related issue!
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium HD app
I'm glad 4.2.2 has fixed many of the soft reboot/crashes and things like that but I still feel that the nexus 10 isn't as snappy as it should be. I feel there's still residual lag during transitions and alot of apps don't run well (I think that's more hardware optimization though). The nexus 10 menu's feel a bit slow.
IMO the nexus 4 on stock feels much smoother.
Battery life appears fine and no more random lockups or reboots since the upgrade several days ago....Very happy now!
Thanks for 4.2.2 update. I no longer face hang/auto restart.
Reboots and crashes are gone it seems. Chrome would crash every time I opened it, now it is rock solid. I would also have random reboots at least twice a day. 0 since the update. Bootlog Uptime says 4 days 4 hours.
I still have issues with Wi-Fi though. My University has multiple AP's with the same SSID, and my N10 has issues finding and staying connected to the strongest signal. It will stay connected for maybe 5 minutes, then the Wi-Fi looks like it resets or something. I tried a logcat dump and nothing notable shows anything.
these are all superceded for me by XBMC now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38001426
uncola said:
these are all superceded for me by XBMC now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38001426
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Problem with XBMC is the interface is still sluggish and is a burden to work with. Especially if you setup a samba share and let it import your PC's music and movie collection. XBMC is just way too bloaty for a tablet and is currently the #1 contender in the "How to drain your battery the fastest" department.
Video playback
Hi,
I have flashed the 4.2.2 stock rom and there are some issues, which are not fixed, and some which seem to be new.
- I had one freeze when the tablet was on standby. Only a reboot fixed it and my battery level was about 10% lower as before. Ok, this might be an app, which is misbehaving, I'll monitor it.
- Then I had the first time this time bug, where the time shown is some minutes off sync.
- The worst thing is, that 4.2.2. seems to have broken the video playback in some apps. Playback is stuttering and some frames are dropped. For example in the watchever app, which worked fine in 4.2.1
Google Movies does not seem to be affected.
Anyone else noticing the video playback issue?
Regards,
Goldstein
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I'm thinking it's not better at this point...my device still powers off when I put it on or take it off a charger....It's my one complaint from an otherwise flawless device.
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My brother had the same issue on his Galaxy Tab some time ago... He was running some Cyanogen alpha though and flashing to a newer version resolved the issue. You could investigate whether a fresh flash resolves your issues...
OnTopic: Did not notice much improvement in 4.2.2 (CM10.1) as the device was running without any problems and there was not really something to improve... However benchmarks scores did go up - Antutu went up from ~13500 to ~16500 and Quadrant from 4800 to 4950.

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After updating to Android 11 I've noticed my device seems to heat up all the time like something is working in the background. I did a FDR and setup as a new device. Even after the reset, the device seems to heat up still. Any suggestions on what to try?
Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Same problem here! After the update, phone runs hot and battery drains while charging!
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Same problem here! After the update, phone runs hot and battery drains while charging!
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Well, hopefully they release a supplemental update to address the issue. I love Android 11 otherwise. Does your phone have a random glitch with messenger or any app where you can open photos to attach or something and have to close the app then reopen and it works?
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Well, hopefully they release a supplemental update to address the issue. I love Android 11 otherwise. Does your phone have a random glitch with messenger or any app where you can open photos to attach or something and have to close the app then reopen and it works?
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I have not had that issue yet. It is laggy. There is also an "out of focus/blur" screen when it transitions from screen to screen, or should I say, app to app. It appears intentional, like a transition between scenes in a movie, but there is no point to it. The phone used to just switch screens. Now there is a transitional screen. Like the "red loading bar" of old.
I am just very disappointed with LG. and the V series. I have had most of them starting with the V10.
Sometimes I long for the old times when if you did not like the OS, you rolled back to an older version or flashed someone else's ROM onto your phone.
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Look at the attachments it's weird one says 2hrs 20 mins screen in time and the other says 4hrs 26 mins.
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Mine says 37% Battery consumed by Android System. that is insane.
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After updating to Android 11 I've noticed my device seems to heat up all the time like something is working in the background. I did a FDR and setup as a new device. Even after the reset, the device seems to heat up still. Any suggestions on what to try?
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I think we just need to go Samsung! Lol! Seriously, this sucks! Charged my phone twice today after taking it off the charger at 6AM. At Noon I was at 21% and again at 5pm I was at 15%. Crazy!
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I think we just need to go Samsung! Lol! Seriously, this sucks! Charged my phone twice today after taking it off the charger at 6AM. At Noon I was at 21% and again at 5pm I was at 15%. Crazy!
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
This is mine, looks how the screen times don't match.
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
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Which was why I went to LG a few years back.
Still, this is a major problem. My phone feels like a hot potato in my pocket and I am sure I will have to charge it in 5 or 6 hours.
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How about no! Lol. I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G there's a reason it not my daily. Samsung still needs a lot to mature it's a huge improvement but still leaking key Android features. LG isn't perfect but it keeps the great core Android features i.e. Seemless updates, more support for Google built in features and etc.
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As an LG fan and owner of a Galaxy S21 Ultra, I can say that the Samsung is miles ahead of LG at this point.
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As an LG fan and owner of a Galaxy S21 Ultra, I can say that the Samsung is miles ahead of LG at this point.
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I can agree, hardware wise not entirely software. One has good things about software and the other has good things.
Anyone else having system ui crashes whenever they pull down the notification shade? I guess been a bug on several Android 11 phones: OnePlus, Pixel, Samsung
I reached out to LG, they said to do a FDR (factory data reset) and if that did not resolve the issues to send the phone in for repair (since I am still under warrenty).
I'm on AT&T and updated to Android 11 earlier this week. It resulted in a black screen soft-brick. I could still see the touches (from dev mode) where fingers tapped the screen. And if I held down the Power button, I'd see the typical Power Down / Restart / Etc. options, and tapping on them would generate the appropriate responses. But in all other instances, it was just a black screen. I figured my HEAVY de-bloating of Android 10 when I first got the phone caused something to break.
So I went ahead and did a full factory restore using recovery/safe mode and set it up as a new phone, and haven't had any serious issues since. I went ahead and got almost everything (minus Fluid Navigation Gestures, RIP) working the way I wanted, and embarked on another HEAVY de-bloating process. Seems like I took things too far, because, upon my next reboot, I was in the exact same black screen soft-brick state I mentioned above.
Another factory reset. Another session of restoring my apps, launcher, settings, and customizations. This time, I just used Package Disabler Pro for LG from the Google Play Store to perform some more restrained bloatware disabling, and everything's been pretty great. For Android 10 and the first attempt at de-bloating Android 11, I was using ADB commands to "uninstall" dozens upon dozens of system apps. Battery life is not quite as good as it was with my heavily de-bloated Android 10 environment, but I didn't expect it to be, and I'm not going to risk messing this all up again.
My only complaint is that stock AOD (and Sidelight Notifications) don't seem to be working properly, no matter how I configure them in Settings. I'm not sure what's causing the issue, but I actually developed this problem just a few days BEFORE the AT&T OTA landed, and it's persisted through a full Android point upgrade and two factory resets, so I imagine there's a conflict somewhere. Maybe with Fluid Simulation - Trippy Stress Reliever (my live wallpaper app of choice), Energy Bar, or Nova Launcher. I haven't been able to pinpoint it yet, but since it predates the Android 11 OTA by a few days, there must be another cause.
I do miss Fluid Navigation Gestures, but I'm happy to report that the new Android 11 gestures are way better than Android 10's. Not quite as customized as I had FNG, but I've adapted. Until/unless someone figures out how to hide the navigation bar without root, LG's gestures it is, I guess.
I have a Verizon V60 and since the update the processor is pegged to 100% utilization after just a few minutes of listening to YouTube music. Nothing I do will drop the utilization down besides a reboot. Again, after a few minutes, same thing. That's what you guys are seeing. I did a factory reset thinking that might fix it. It didn't. I restored all of my apps, but not my data just to be sure that nothing weird was causing issues. Even after the restore, the CPU was pegged at 100%.
Long story short, the SW is bugged. So was 10 (voice commands broken with Maps in Incognito mode for example). I've wanted to switch to this phone as my daily for a while from my Galaxy S10, but LG keeps dropping the ball.
Regarding the Samsung, it has significantly more features and regular updates. There is no comparison, frankly. I only like the LG for the form factor, large battery, speed and head phone jack amp. Otherwise, the S10 is just a better phone. This reminds me why I stopped buying Motorola phones. Buggy updates with broken core functionality.
I bought a V50 based on the positive reviews, and I ultimately sold it due to bugs (Android Auto was an absolute mess). The V60 has been better, but still far from perfect. I find phone reviews absolutely worthless as those people seem to restrict their usage to social media and photography. When it comes to using it as an actual phone, silence.
Sorry for the long rant. I will give LG another month to see if they fix this issue. Otherwise, I'm selling this phone and will never buy another LG.
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Anyone else having system ui crashes whenever they pull down the notification shade? I guess been a bug on several Android 11 phones: OnePlus, Pixel, Samsung
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Not on an LG V60, but I've got serious other issues I'm here about.
I don't usually post here, but gotten a ton of great info here over the years, including rooting a couple phones. Thank you to all who contribute.
Since the update I've found three of my favcorite apps, all paid for, afflicted with issues that range from a couple cosmetic glitches in AccuBattery, to one app that's completely unusable. I've done one factory reset since the update.
I have a support ticket opened for the worst one; Radio Paradise's streaming app, the beta version (only one of these in beta). After clearing its cache and data, then uninstalling, then restarting (power off/>10 seconds pause/on), then reinstalling, I can sometimes get a connection and start downloading music, streaming or caching. But just once. Then it won't reconnect to the streams at all.
The other one, Weather Underground's app, now won't even start. But the notification seems fine keeping time and temp on schedule. Try to start the app and it immediately shuts down.
All three of these apps, including the RP Betas, have been solid for a year (one attraction) and all run fine on an old V10 and V30 still on the wifi. Have for years.
If this gibes with anyone else's experiance I'd like to hear about it, I haven't found these kinds of complaints anywhere. My Spidey sense suggests a possible permissioning issue but I'm not sure.

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