Hi i just got my SGSII Im ready to root it but before install anything I want to make a backup, but im not sure. Can I install clockworkmode CWM before root it and make my backup?? I have read but can not fine the specific answer. I really want to have my stock rom in case something goes wrong even with out root
You can back up some data using Samsung Kies. But if you wanna create a nandroid backup, you need to root first. Rooting is safe and does not mod your stock rom. It will add some extra features like ClockWorkMod, busybox etc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
You can flash CF-root and then start to install apps and then use for example Titanium Backup to make backups. If you for some reason want to flash your original firmware back, your apps won't be wiped.
ok then i will use the chainfire root files. I had the doubt because when i root one tab i first made the backup, i thought i would be the same
you can simply get the firmware for your phone at sammobile.com. if you ever need to restore your phone back to the state before rooting, just flash that firmware with odin and you are done.
awesome, every where i checked on the web i never find the specific firmware (not even mention my carrier) i was afraid i could not find it, but with that page i got it
Once you have done what you are doing, get kTool and backup efs too. Very important data in the efs.
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kTool saved my life twice.
DO NOT neglect it !
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I see a lot of Titanium threads, which afaik requires root. I would like to find a good method to back up everything before I try rooting, if possible.
I found a similar question in Nexus S and matt2053 responded "...you do NOT have to be rooted to make a Nandroid backup." He didn't elaborate.
From what I have read, I believe that a nandroid is a complete image of the system, data and apps, which would allow me to go back to exactly where I was. Is that right? That would be great.
Would someone help me there? Do I use adb, or do I need an app, or what?
Thanks,
You need to be in recovery to make a nandroid. A far as I know you cannot do this unless you are rooted with s off
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If not nandroid, then?
Do you know of any method to make a complete backup before rooting?
This can be accomplished on some devices such as the Droid that don't require you to downgrade firmware (i.e. on some devices you can flash recovery without ever touching the rom) like the TB does to get s-off. So as you posted from your searching something similar may be true for the NexusS.
On the TB w/ the required firmware flashing steps, I don't think you can ever get a usable custom recovery without losing your current stock rom one way or another. I could be wrong as I haven't looked into it.
Basically, root (Superuser) is within the rom. For phones that allow you to flash a custom recovery without touching the rom, you can nandroid your original stock rom without su. For phones that can't, the only way is to flash a rom that is not rooted (does not include su).
I'm not personally aware of a way to make a full backup image other than that, sorry.
Can I make an exact image of my phone as it is; settings, apps, saved passwords etc without root to revert to in case rooting goes wrong somehow? If not, I assume I need to add a rooted kernel via Odin and then purchase CWM from the market and backup there?
Last one, how does backup work in CWM, does it create an exact image to revert to or just backs up a stock image as if it was just purchased as new?
Thank you for any help you can give a newb.
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Can I make an exact image of my phone as it is; settings, apps, saved passwords etc without root to revert to in case rooting goes wrong somehow?
No as you need CWM and root
If not, I assume I need to add a rooted kernel via Odin and then purchase CWM from the market and backup there?
No its free and part of the CWM and Root kernels .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Last one, how does backup work in CWM, does it create an exact image to revert to or just backs up a stock image as if it was just purchased as new?
Backs up the phone as is at time of backup whatever the firmware is .
Stock firmware is not held on the phone the meaning of factory reset is reinstall last installed firmware .
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hi there xperia community
got my hands on my wife mini pro so i'm gonna mess it up a bit..
first, i just wanna state that it's a real bummer that you guys got locked BL and there's no easy way to root .62 firmware
now onward to my problem:
i've got sk17i with .62 firmware and i'm gonna root 'cause it's no fun without the POWER OF ROOT!
does the rooting procedure (downgrading to .42, rooting, upgrading to .62) mess with data and apps? my wife will kill me if i loose her sms/mms and she's using gosmspro i don't have a way to back it up
was searching quite a while and couldn't find a way to make a full backup without root and in this xperia i can't root without flashing firmware..
I think there is no way not to lose the data. You could try flashing .42 without wiping data, but I can't promise anything.
Are you sure you can't backup the SMS?
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Have you tried - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844032 And yes you will lose data when flashing from one FW to another if you haven't backed it up.
@mihahn
i'd like to have full backup to be on the safe side
gosms wants money to backup and stock sms app don't see messages from gosms :/
@XperienceD
it's for 4.0+ devices 'cause it's just a script for adb backup command which doesn't work on GB
so there's no way to backup before rooting? bummer :crying:
Yes, just search on Google play store for Mobile Backup, does all the work.
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it doesnt backup mms :/
anywany, i made backup with go backup and everything is fine now.
got rooted, lited stock rom and applied some tweaks
for future reference, use go backup for backup.
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cwm on /system partition is a pain in butt
damn locked bl
WiCiO_MeDi said:
it doesnt backup mms :/
anywany, i made backup with go backup and everything is fine now.
got rooted, lited stock rom and applied some tweaks
for future reference, use go backup for backup.
ps.
cwm on /system partition is a pain in butt
damn locked bl
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then unlock it and enjoy speed, smoothness and battery life of custom kernel
plus u also got permanent cwm.
GT-I9300 International No carrier
Current FW v 4.1.2
hxxp://i.imgur.com/DxDXONZ.png
Update Details
hxxp://i.imgur.com/18JE68Z.jpg
Phone Rooted using CF-Auto-Root
SuperSU and Busybox installed
CWM not installed
Using Stock ROM
Using Stock Kernel
As you can see Kies has prompted me an update and the update seems to have already downloaded OTA using WiFi.
It is prompting me to install the update again and again.
My question is, if I do select to install this update,
1.) Will it remove root?
2.) Will it completely wipe my phone? (previous incremental updates haven't wiped my data, but the phone wasn't rooted then.)
3.) Can I root again using CF-Auto-Root?
Thank you.
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GT-I9300 International No carrier
Current FW v 4.1.2
hxxp://i.imgur.com/DxDXONZ.png
Update Details
hxxp://i.imgur.com/18JE68Z.jpg
Phone Rooted using CF-Auto-Root
SuperSU and Busybox installed
CWM not installed
Using Stock ROM
Using Stock Kernel
As you can see Kies has prompted me an update and the update seems to have already downloaded OTA using WiFi.
It is prompting me to install the update again and again.
My question is, if I do select to install this update,
1.) Will it remove root?
AS per thousands of posts YES.
2.) Will it completely wipe my phone? (previous incremental updates haven't wiped my data, but the phone wasn't rooted then.)
NO
3.) Can I root again using CF-Auto-Root?
YES
All this is posted multiple times .
jje
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JJEgan said:
Jaxx89 said:
GT-I9300 International No carrier
Current FW v 4.1.2
hxxp://i.imgur.com/DxDXONZ.png
Update Details
hxxp://i.imgur.com/18JE68Z.jpg
Phone Rooted using CF-Auto-Root
SuperSU and Busybox installed
CWM not installed
Using Stock ROM
Using Stock Kernel
As you can see Kies has prompted me an update and the update seems to have already downloaded OTA using WiFi.
It is prompting me to install the update again and again.
My question is, if I do select to install this update,
1.) Will it remove root?
AS per thousands of posts YES.
2.) Will it completely wipe my phone? (previous incremental updates haven't wiped my data, but the phone wasn't rooted then.)
NO
3.) Can I root again using CF-Auto-Root?
YES
All this is posted multiple times .
jje
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Sorry about that. Maybe my searching skills aren't good enough or maybe I don't know how to use this forum coz I found only one thread that too with a Gingerbread FW, which is why I posted this Q
Really sorry.
Thanks for the quick reply.
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Device status modified and cannot update
tried using triangle away and did not reset the flash counter
Because triangle away can reset your flash counter only if you're running stock recovery, stock kernel, stock rom etc.
CF-AutoRoot should not make your status "modified" but probably like you see it did. Maybe some other apps did that, maybe not, nobody knows anyway. If you really need these updates then you should flash newest firmware from samsung through odin and then root it + reset flash counter, it should work also for further updates (but I'm not sure).
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Because triangle away can reset your flash counter only if you're running stock recovery, stock kernel, stock rom etc.
CF-AutoRoot should not make your status "modified" but probably like you see it did. Maybe some other apps did that, maybe not, nobody knows anyway. If you really need these updates then you should flash newest firmware from samsung through odin and then root it + reset flash counter, it should work also for further updates (but I'm not sure).
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Thanks a lot.
I know where to get the FW updates to flash via Odin but don't really understand how to reset the flash counter if not by using TriangleAway.
Could you please be kind enough to guide me?
And these are the apps I used after root
SuperSU
Busybox
Root checker
Titanium Backup
Lucky patcher
Market enabler
Greenify
Could any of these apps modify the stock kernel, rom or recovery? Coz I never flashed any custom ones just rooted using CF-Auto-Root and installed the root apps
P.S: I was able to do the FW update via Kies and now the status is back to normal, but I'm afraid to root coz the status might go back to modified.
It's more like, you know. If we're talking about warranty then they'll find that your rooted your phone anyway. If we're talking about updates then probably it's still better to keep an eye on some stock-based custom roms, mostly because of frequent updates (nearly instantly after new baseband), while you still need to wait some time for OTA to arrive. Of course it's much easier to apply OTA than whole custom rom but hey, how often are you doing that?
About your question - busybox is my choice because it modifies /system apps, many of them.
And lastly - in odin you have a checkbox to reset flash counter, so you don't need to worry about anything using this tool. At least in general.
Overall I'd stick with pure stock non-rooted firmware if you don't need it in general or rooted custom rom (f.e. mine ) for much better experience. I couldn't go back to stock after getting used to much better performance, less battery drain etc.
Choice is yours.
Lucky patcher
Warez is totally banned on XDA you are stealing from developers .
As its a warez app who knows what sort of malware it could add to your phone .
I would wipe the phone install original firmware .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978840
Then update it and to stick with unrooted stock .
jje
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It's more like, you know. If we're talking about warranty then they'll find that your rooted your phone anyway. If we're talking about updates then probably it's still better to keep an eye on some stock-based custom roms, mostly because of frequent updates (nearly instantly after new baseband), while you still need to wait some time for OTA to arrive. Of course it's much easier to apply OTA than whole custom rom but hey, how often are you doing that?
About your question - busybox is my choice because it modifies /system apps, many of them.
And lastly - in odin you have a checkbox to reset flash counter, so you don't need to worry about anything using this tool. At least in general.
Overall I'd stick with pure stock non-rooted firmware if you don't need it in general or rooted custom rom (f.e. mine ) for much better experience. I couldn't go back to stock after getting used to much better performance, less battery drain etc.
Choice is yours.
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Thanks for the quick response
I rooted mainly coz I needed to use market enabler
In Odin are you referring to the option F. Reset time??
I am using the Odin version provided by Chainfire in his S3 rooting thread in which all options are disabled except for Auto reboot.
@JJEgan I don't even know how to use half of the apps I mentioned, I only installed them as my friend suggested it as must have root apps.
As you might see, I am still a N00b at this and am in the learning process.
BTW Thanks for the link to the guide.
Jaxx89 said:
Thanks for the quick response
I rooted mainly coz I needed to use market enabler
In Odin are you referring to the option F. Reset time??
I am using the Odin version provided by Chainfire in his S3 rooting thread in which all options are disabled except for Auto reboot.
@JJEgan I don't even know how to use half of the apps I mentioned, I only installed them as my friend suggested it as must have root apps.
As you might see, I am still a N00b at this and am in the learning process.
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I suggest going through my flashing guide located in ArchiDroid thread, with newest odin and newest methods for flashing/rooting.
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I suggest going through my flashing guide located in ArchiDroid thread, with newest odin and newest methods for flashing/rooting.
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Thanks a lot.
If I'm not mistaken, ArchiDroid is a Custom ROM(pre-rooted) which requires a Custom Recovery.
I will be learning a bit more first before I install a Custom ROM.
A question though. Will I have to take a backup of my app data if I decide to install a custom ROM?
Also if I want to install the stock FW via Odin, will I have to take a backup first?
Thanks and I'm really sorry about asking such questions.
Jaxx89 said:
Thanks a lot.
If I'm not mistaken, ArchiDroid is a Custom ROM(pre-rooted) which requires a Custom Recovery.
I will be learning a bit more first before I install a Custom ROM.
A question though. Will I have to take a backup of my app data if I decide to install a custom ROM?
Also if I want to install the stock FW via Odin, will I have to take a backup first?
Thanks and I'm really sorry about asking such questions.
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Yes it requires custom recovery for installing .zip package.
There is nothing to learn if you ask me, you have complete guide for installing everything you need in step-by-step howto. If you want to keep your data then you need to use some nice app for that f.e. Titanium Backup but for that you need root and... yeah. It's easier to start from scratch on new pre-rooted rom.
I'd suggest flashing custom recovery (tutorial in my topic) and then you can create a backup directly from that, with everything you want to, including actual system, efs folder, recovery, kernel etc. So you can easily get back to original rom whenever you want to. Keep in mind that you still need custom recovery for that.
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Yes it requires custom recovery for installing .zip package.
There is nothing to learn if you ask me, you have complete guide for installing everything you need in step-by-step howto. If you want to keep your data then you need to use some nice app for that f.e. Titanium Backup but for that you need root and... yeah. It's easier to start from scratch on new pre-rooted rom.
I'd suggest flashing custom recovery (tutorial in my topic) and then you can create a backup directly from that, with everything you want to, including actual system, efs folder, recovery, kernel etc. So you can easily get back to original rom whenever you want to. Keep in mind that you still need custom recovery for that.
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Ok Now I'm really confused
I still haven't learnt how to use Titanium Backup to backup, or how to do a nandroid backup. I have read it's better to do a backup b4 installing a custom ROM. And if I'm not mistaken, I need ROOT to do a nandroid backup too.
As I said before that I used CF-Auto-Root, I just followed the instructions to the word.
I had tried doing a ADB backup before root, but for some reason it kept exiting(I guess coz I have just about 1GB memory left on my Internal memory SD card)
Thanks for the quick reply. Man ur really fast in answering questions. :good:
EDIT: Just did the CF-Auto_Root again and didn't install any other apps like busybox(uninstalled all root apps) and used triangleaway to reset the flash counter. But the counter still stuck on 1
The device status shows normal though.
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Ok Now I'm really confused
I still haven't learnt how to use Titanium Backup to backup, or how to do a nandroid backup. I have read it's better to do a backup b4 installing a custom ROM. And if I'm not mistaken, I need ROOT to do a nandroid backup too.
As I said before that I used CF-Auto-Root, I just followed the instructions to the word.
I had tried doing a ADB backup before root, but for some reason it kept exiting(I guess coz I have just about 1GB memory left on my Internal memory SD card)
Thanks for the quick reply. Man ur really fast in answering questions. :good:
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First of all you need custom recovery to perform nandroid backups. So you can stick with my first 10 steps in my howto. After that enter recovery, enter backup section and make a custom backup (or default, doesn't matter) of everything you have, especially /efs folder as it's really important. When you finish doing backup then boot to your normal system and copy these backups to your PC. Now you're sure that they won't disappear and if you want to backup your phone from that then simply put them back on your phone and restore them from the recovery.
But overall I'd suggest clean start without these backups. Of course it's always recommended and I recommend it as well but as long as you won't want to go back to original rom, there is no real point for backing it up. You can always download latest official firmware and flash it through odin.
Hey guys,
Do I lose all my data on a downgrade? (4.4.4 to 4.4.2) because I think it's just like a update, just the other way round.
Thanks in advance, _Heisenberg
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Hey guys,
Do I lose all my data on a downgrade? (4.4.4 to 4.4.2) because I think it's just like a update, just the other way round.
Thanks in advance, _Heisenberg
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yes you will lose all the data. it not exactly an update. its more like a factory restore. if you dont select system while flashing than you might retain the data but it'll create other problems i think like FCs and such. if you want retain the data, like game progress and such i suggest you use helium app, it can backup entire data and restore it when you have flashed anything else. but if you gonna unlock your bootloader and flash a lollipop ROM than its not gonna help as file placement is different in lollipop, i dont know whether even titanium will help in that case, you might have to start completely from scratch.
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yes you will lose all the data. it not exactly an update. its more like a factory restore. if you dont select system while flashing than you might retain the data but it'll create other problems i think like FCs and such. if you want retain the data, like game progress and such i suggest you use helium app, it can backup entire data and restore it when you have flashed anything else. but if you gonna unlock your bootloader and flash a lollipop ROM than its not gonna help as file placement is different in lollipop, i dont know whether even titanium will help in that case, you might have to start completely from scratch.
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Okay, i just want to flash the downgrade for root and recovery, so I think there is no problem with it, is it? And if I downgrade, I think I am able to backup everything with Titanium Backup. Do you think that's possible?
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Okay, i just want to flash the downgrade for root and recovery, so I think there is no problem with it, is it? And if I downgrade, I think I am able to backup everything with Titanium Backup. Do you think that's possible?
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You can root and then update using the PRFtool and you'll retain root,probably even after OTA you will retain root, but i've heard that it varies with different people, you may or may not retain root after simple OTA, also i'm not sure how much help titanium backup will be before rooting as it requires root for backup function, as i suggested, use helium app, no root required. keep the backup safe, flash the prf through recovery, the flash the baseband and kernel through the ftf, then you'll be on latest FW with root and then you can restore the data from helium backup.
Edit: just now understood, you meant use titanium after downgrading and rooting probably, you will lose all the data during downgrading, so nothing will be left after downgrading to backup. have to backup before downgrading.