Hey, don't know if a topic on this was already started, so please delete if it was, but this whole internal and external storage creates so much frustration. All the apps just save their content to /sdcard which is just the internal memory. I would personally just like to combine the sdcard with the internal memory and create one big storage...just a thought though.
I kinda solved my own problem with this simple fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27539066#post27539066
The only problem with that would be you would then never be able to remove your SD card without corrupting all of the data, or so I would think.
We have good enough app space I wouldn't want to tank performance on the phone for that. Those features are better off for older phones or phones without good specs
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
Yea I'm having some issues trying to figure out how to move data around between storage on this device
I don't understand how this is complicated. Am I missing something? Why in the world would a device with 16GB of internal space and nothing else be preferable to one with 16GB of internal space PLUS a 32GB sd card?
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.... I never said i wouldn't want the extra storage im just trying to figure out what goes where and how to easily move data between internal and the sd card. Ive had some success astro.
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
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Regarding partitions, that's because Android is founded on the roots of Linux, if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitionsare used and needed
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.... I never said i wouldn't want the extra storage im just trying to figure out what goes where and how to easily move data between internal and the sd card. Ive had some success astro.
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Just use an app like Astro, Root Explorer, or ES File Explorer and it will allow you to easily move your data to basically wherever you want on the phone/external sd card.
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That's why I like the Galxy Nexus. It's all one HD and none of this partition crap. The down side is that there is no card to remove. I hated with my Photon I had two internal partitions and then ext-sd. I couldn't move apps to my ext-sd only interal "sd" if you can call it that. Dealing with the pains of partitions makes me prefer that all Androids should only have one internal partition and then the removable SD. After the win95/98 days and HD sizes I thought I would be done with partitions until I ran into big HD Android devices. /end rant
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Yeah, that's one of the things I like about the galaxy nexus and the one x, is just having internal. The SD card option is great, but not much of use, if all apps are going to do is save to the internal memory (*cough* Google music) and leave it up to the user to bind the folders together...but I digress.
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if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitionsare used and needed
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It's just a personal preferance. I have used many different distros of Linux along with Unix. I like to put all my money into one pants pocket. I don't like to have some money in the back, some in front, some in the left pocket.
check updated OP
I could and have easily filled 16gbs of storage! Bluray rips lol
You probably don't need an sd card slot for this device if your an average user. Me on the other hand thinks its perfect that my apps are in internal storage and my photos,music,vids use my 64gb extsd. I'm pretty sure the internal flash is faster then my class 10 card. It seems they have it partitioned correctly. I don't understand why you would want to put your apps in the sd,probably slower & becomes non removable.
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lonnydub said:
It's just a personal preferance. I have used many different distros of Linux along with Unix. I like to put all my money into one pants pocket. I don't like to have some money in the back, some in front, some in the left pocket.
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I prefer my apps in one pocket and my videos/photos in the other. Otherwise I'd be spending to much time trying to find crap in one pocket lol
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I could and have easily filled 16gbs of storage! Bluray rips lol
You probably don't need an sd card slot for this device if your an average user. Me on the other hand thinks its perfect that my apps are in internal storage and my photos,music,vids use my 64gb extsd. I'm pretty sure the internal flash is faster then my class 10 card. It seems they have it partitioned correctly. I don't understand why you would want to put your apps in the sd,probably slower & becomes non removable.
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I prefer my apps in one pocket and my videos/photos in the other. Otherwise I'd be spending to much time trying to find crap in one pocket lol
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See...I guess it's really a personal preference. It just bothers me, when I have a 32 GB card just sitting there with only 2 GB used, meanwhile my internal storage has only 2 GB free.
use link2sd....this thread has more info..basically use ext2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678817&highlight=link2sd
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Regarding partitions, that's because Android is founded on the roots of Linux, if you use Linux you would understand where and why partitions are used and needed
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Actually, I have a fair amount of Linux knowledge and have set up more than a few PC's and servers in my time. I've never understood the reasoning behind it, and it really isn't needed, as you can do a single partition install on even the most recent distros and it will operate normally. You don't need a separate system and homespace. It is unnecessary, and in my opinion managing multiple partitions in that manner is a pain and adds to clutter. I will install it that way if people want me to, but I don't enjoy it that way.
If you grab any older Linux CD, you will see that a lot of them will normally install and configure itself on one data partition unless you state otherwise, and there is a reason for that. It's bad enough that the OS by default dislikes you being an admin all the time, which I also find ignorant. If you can't use a PC without fear of breaking something then you probably shouldn't be using one. It's just another extra precaution taken to try and make it more user friendly.
I don't know if you ever have, but I wasted one hour doing some editing in vi just for me to try and save and realize I forgot to use sudo so I couldn't use the necessary admin privileges... If I have permissions to perform an administrative task, then saying "I want to be admin now" shouldn't be necessary. Most people wouldn't make that mistake, but I have, and now I'll probably never do it again.
Granted, I do see a use for apps like superuser as a seemingly legitimate app in the market could do something dangerous behind the scenes and you can't easily monitor that(and I don't have to approve root each time I use a root app, unlike having to sudo before everything)
What app are some of you are using that's taking up lots of internal storage. I can see games and game data would do that. In that case use GL to SD app. When you open the app it will list games installed (sometimes other apps) and when you click on any it will prompt for a download game data but instead of downloading to internal it will download to micro sd which will save your internal space. If you've already downloaded data prior to installing GL to SD you can just delete them and let GL to SD download it to card or you can transfer them to the games(this might be different with the current GL to SD app) folder in your sd card.
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I only have 1.4MB left on my internal SD.. And it is confusing as hell. I have all my music on my external SD. I tried cleaning out as much as possible (the things that i knew what they were, and i didn't need them anymore)
Idk what to do
I just copy all the important stuff to my cpu and format the card from the phone then put it all back
Vibrant - Bionix 1.3 - JAC's Xmod kernel- adb lag fix
Check your nandroids. If you backup alot you've probably got a crapload of old backups and they will end up rating alot of space. Delete what you don't need.
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Docavelli said:
Check your nandroids. If you backup alot you've probably got a crapload of old backups and they will end up rating alot of space. Delete what you don't need.
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I already deleted all of them except my last one..
And what exactly does formatting the card do?
formatting the internal SD card will just erased everything.. I think..
The K-Zoo Kid said:
I only have 1.4MB left on my internal SD.. And it is confusing as hell. I have all my music on my external SD. I tried cleaning out as much as possible (the things that i knew what they were, and i didn't need them anymore)
Idk what to do
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It's like this....The contents of your internal SD are....the contents of your internal SD. There's no real way for us to know what is in there. It will be different for you, me, and everyone else.
Music and video files eat tons of space fairly quickly, but since you say all your music is on your external...well it's hard to say what might be going on. You have SOMETHING eating nearly 14gb of space...
Time to get your learn on, browse through your phone's folders and see what's there. Best to do this from your PC...Best of luck
You can pretty much delete the entire contents, but I wouldn't delete the clockwork folder since it helps you recover. For some reason it doesn't like it when I delete the update.zip file thou either. Something about root and screwing around with LOL
+1 on the last two posts...
are you sure it's not 1.4GB? The 14GB internal SD is good enough for most. In fact I bet that most people with all the music and videos and other stuff still have a few GBs.
Definitely DO NOT get rid of your Clockwork folder and the update.zip. Those two will save you in a pinch. Now as for everything else, you can always re-flash a ROM and start from the beginning.
Good luck and keep an eye if that happens again. I'm not sure Samsung expected people to run out of space on the internal so quickly.
I just copied the contents of my internal card to my computer and it said there the only 620mb. WTF?? Im going to format it and report back.
Will our Photon's support it? Specs say up to 32GB but in reality will it support the 64?
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...WIA2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1327976837&sr=8-3
Nope, read it somewhere that our photon isn't compatible.
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I read it will, but has to be formatted in the phone, and afterwards, it most likely won't retain its speed classification.
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If you use a micro SDXC you can use the 64
SDHC and SDXC are different formats. Even the ad states you need a SDXC Compatable reader to read it. I dont think most computers can even read it.
EDIT: Hold the phone, I may be wrong?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
I must admit, when I first viewed this thread, I got a little hard on! But after spending several hours reading my link below...........Too many reasons to explain, but the bottom line is No, Photon cannot use this card.
If you need more than your internal phone memory and 32gb card than time to get a good cloud service. Or, try Zumocast. Streaming over Wifi is as good for me as if the file was on my device.
CCallahan said:
If you need more than your internal phone memory and 32gb card than time to get a good cloud service. Or, try Zumocast. Streaming over Wifi is as good for me as if the file was on my device.
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I already do, I have access to 2Tb on my home computer via ZumoCast. right now, I have nothing on my phone BUT, 1 minute of HD video is 100Mb. vacation or family reunion could dig into that fast! hell, I did Vegas for birthday and dumped my card in 3rd day!
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I must admit, when I first viewed this thread, I got a little hard on! But after spending several hours reading my link below...........Too many reasons to explain, but the bottom line is No, Photon cannot use this card.
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You have to format it from fat32 to another format I can't think of at the moment. I picked that from the transformer prime forums
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How much pr0n do you keep on your phone! GESH! I have trouble filling my 16!
AJC9000 said:
You have to format it from fat32 to another format I can't think of at the moment. I picked that from the transformer prime forums
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Sorry my man, your wrong (sort of) this time. SDHC is 32Fat, with a limitation of 32Gb. SDXC is ExFAT, Priopority to Microsoft (which is another issue). If you have an ExFAT compatable reader (Photon does not) you could likely format 32FAT on an ExFAT , but you would only have 32Gb fromated on a 64Gb Compatable card, which makes no sense. BTW: ExFAT can read, technically, up to 2Tb! Trust me, I dug into my link above DEEP attempting to justify the $157.00.
With that said, I would in IT. As with our servers, bigger is better to me. Photon has @ 8.9Gb usable on the phone, I also have Lexar 32Gb Class 10 card. Wanna know how much space Im using? (and I have a lot of s**t). I'm using .15 of internal storage, PERIOD!!! Card I have is blank!!!
Why? After I got ZumoCast down, why bother? I have 90Gb of music I can play with? God know's how many HD Videos on my desktop at home. The only downside with Videos, if you now around WiFi, your going to eat some data.
The only reason I still keep the space, I went to Vegas for my birthday in October. 1 minute of HD Video is 100MB roughly. On day 3 I dumped the card (granted, some of it I would never show anyone (and later deleted)) but the point is, I used some serious memory!
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Sorry my man, your wrong (sort of) this time. SDHC is 32Fat, with a limitation of 32Gb. SDXC is ExFAT, Priopority to Microsoft (which is another issue). If you have an ExFAT compatable reader (Photon does not) you could likely format 32FAT on an ExFAT , but you would only have 32Gb fromated on a 64Gb Compatable card, which makes no sense. BTW: ExFAT can read, technically, up to 2Tb! Trust me, I dug into my link above DEEP attempting to justify the $157.00.
With that said, I would in IT. As with our servers, bigger is better to me. Photon has @ 8.9Gb usable on the phone, I also have Lexar 32Gb Class 10 card. Wanna know how much space Im using? (and I have a lot of s**t). I'm using .15 of internal storage, PERIOD!!! Card I have is blank!!!
Why? After I got ZumoCast down, why bother? I have 90Gb of music I can play with? God know's how many HD Videos on my desktop at home. The only downside with Videos, if you now around WiFi, your going to eat some data.
The only reason I still keep the space, I went to Vegas for my birthday in October. 1 minute of HD Video is 100MB roughly. On day 3 I dumped the card (granted, some of it I would never show anyone (and later deleted)) but the point is, I used some serious memory!
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I found the link I was referring to. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423587&highlight=sdxc
Check page 3 I take that as a confirm
If you format the SD card to NTFS it works in the ATP...Now I don't have the cash to try this, this guy did however and I would assume it applies the same exact way...
Not arguing with you man just laying down somethings I read and don't decide to blow money on the SD card
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I found the link I was referring to. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423587&highlight=sdxc
Check page 3 I take that as a confirm
If you format the SD card to NTFS it works in the ATP...Now I don't have the cash to try this, this guy did however and I would assume it applies the same exact way...
Not arguing with you man just laying down somethings I read and don't decide to blow money on the SD card
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I read the same but couldn't find it. You my friend are a gentlemen and a scholar!
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Would it be possible to partition a 64gb sd and then just mount the second partition? Just wondering.
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Would it be possible to partition a 64gb sd and then just mount the second partition? Just wondering.
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Doesn't hurt to try. I'd try a smaller SD card first to see
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Doesn't hurt to try. I'd try a smaller SD card first to see
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Tested and confirmed that this at least works with a 16gb uSD card. Would be interested in someone testing this on a 64gb. Here was my method:
Using gparted or any disk partitioning tool I created two fat32 partitions on the SD card, and then loaded the SD card in the photon (although i also assume that this will work on just about all android phones).
Connected the phone via adb
Code:
adb start-server
adb devices
adb shell
Looking around in /dev I found the second fat32 partition at /dev/mmcblk1p2 (this could possibly vary by device)
I then used root explorer to make the root directory read/write. You can also accomplish this using remount or whatever method works for you.
I created a mount point for the second partition via:
Code:
mkdir sdcard2
and then mounted the second partition by issuing:
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mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk1p2 /sdcard2
To ensure that everything worked I pushed two test files, one to sdcard, and one to sdcard2
Code:
adb push test1.txt /sdcard/test1.txt
adb push test2.txt /sdcard2/test2.txt
After the operation finished I returned the root directory to read only and then shut the phone down and pulled the sdcard and then mounted it via card reader on my pc, and sure enough both partitions showed up with their respective files.
It would be quite easy to add a startup script to mount the second partition upon booting the phone. It may also be possible to place the mount point inside the first partition on the sdcard so it would be accessible by the system upon boot with no other modifications. These are just my findings.
Thanks
-devx
So i searched for the answer for this problem and have found no threads on it.
The problem is that my STOCK amaze 4G keeps telling me that I have "insufficient storage available" when I am trying to install updates. The updates that I'm having trouble with are HTC WATCH, Facebook, Google Maps, and a few others. These are the main ones though. I noticed that it started doing this after Google decided to switch from MARKET to PLAY STORE.
Can anyone give me any suggestions on how to fix this. I have over 250MB of RAM left on my phone, 14GB available on my SD Card, and 7.65GB of available phone storage, and 203MB available of Internal Storage.
Thanks!
try moving some of your apps to the sd card and try again. sounds like your internal memory is too low
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try moving some of your apps to the sd card and try again. sounds like your internal memory is too low
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Agreed, this is likely the issue. I finally ran across this myself, moved a bunch of big apps to sd and then had enough room.
I've literally moved everything I can to my SD card :/
I think I might just have to do a factory reset...
I had that exact issue, only went away when I rooted. Factory reset 2x; nothing.
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Hmm, I didn't want to root this phone, but I guess I have no choice, lol
slbha159 said:
Hmm, I didn't want to root this phone, but I guess I have no choice, lol
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Didn't want to root? BLASPHEMY! j/k
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haha, well with that said, which ROMS do y'all suggest for my Amaze 4G?
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haha, well with that said, which ROMS do y'all suggest for my Amaze 4G?
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I truly think Energy ROM is the best out of the ones I tried. It's the most stable and all features work solidly. The battery virtually doesn't change when the phone is locked and not in use, and its the only ROM that lasts me all day.
Bulletproof 2.5 is pretty stable, but its hosted at a different site. You will have to Google it. There are only a couple handfuls of ROMs for this phone, so if you have the time, it would be best to try them all. But as of right now, NRGZ28 (Energy ROM) and XBoarder56 (Bulletproof 2.5) are the main 2 developers for this phone, but we have quite a few others attempting to make the leap
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Thanks for the help. I've been a huge fan of NRGZ28's work for a while now, used his ROMS on my HD2. I'll definitely give these a try!
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Thanks for the help. I've been a huge fan of NRGZ28's work for a while now, used his ROMS on my HD2. I'll definitely give these a try!
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No prob... Can't go wrong with NRGZ28
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Your problem is the phone uses the internal memory as the sd card. The real sd card is actually listed as ext_sd and the phone does not use it as it should. Its strange and no one seems to be talking about it.
do you know how to fix that?
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do you know how to fix that?
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If you use the phone without the ext SD, I think that forces it to use the internal
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I've used it with my 16GB external SD since the day I got it. Still couldn't figure out why it wouldnt let me update anything.
Today i restarted my phone and noticed that it uninstalled about 15 apps out of nowhere! Decided to just do a Factory Reset, all is good so far.
205mb of internal memory thats your problem thats out of 10gigs total its full. Like i said the phone uses that internal memory 10gigs as the sd card that what its labeled as in any file manager. Go to. Sd card and open it you'll see ext_sd thats your real sd card. Dont know how to fix it seems like a programming error. The phone just dosent save anything to ext_sd so it sits unused at least for apps. I think it does store pics there.
Edit: my bad i think in your case the 7gigs free is your internal memory and the 205mb is the 2gig of phone memory either way its full.
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If you use the phone without the ext SD, I think that forces it to use the internal
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Thats not correct it uses the internal memory for apps real sd card inserted or not at least unrooted. It calls that internal space sd card for some reason i cant understand. A real. Sd card is in the sd card folder called ext_sd check it out.
same device, same freaking problem
tons of memory (48gb). Always got bogged by "insufficient storage available" and apps bizarrely disappear and reappear, and sometimes disappeared forever (need to redownload every single time).
Have tried your advice to move apps to SD but problem didn't go off. You don't need to root it. This solves it.
http://www.ganshani.com/2012/01/11/fix-insufficient-storage-available-on-android/
I had this problem this morning and tried all sorts of things
-Deleting the temp cache of used programs
-Uninstalling programs
-Moving programs to sd card.
Nothing worked.
What DID work was deleting a bunch of mms/sms messages. As soon as I did that and rebooted problem solved (for me at least).
Amaze 4G low memory
HTC posted an application on the market for this. Search for Amaze memory clear
Sometimes when you have a fresh install and if it does not allow you to install apps (insufficient storage available) even after a factory reset, this command should fix it (if you have s-off or unlocked bootloader)
Mind you, this command wipes all userdata and cache.
fastboot -w
This has fixed the insufficient storage available for me
The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.
A lot of newer apps have a setting to store in ext_sd... if they don't, you're gonna have to move the stuff manually. Aside from editing the system files and changing the variables I don't think its going to be possible unless the app supports it. Sorry, just the way it is.
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I have over 100 apps and don't have that problem. None of them are on my ext_sd... Quite a few big apps too... I've seen a few ppl with the same prob, but I don't get why. Maybe it's because I don't have any music or movies on my phone...
I guess I will consider myself lucky :screwy:
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The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.
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it is a true sd card, its just internal and its separate from the phones internal memory. i wish there was a way to default to the external sd, but no dice
I notice your rooted and from the looks of your memory it looks like your phone is using the real sd card not the internal memorh. Im not rooted and mine looks opposite of yours i have like 7gigs free on my sd card and like 700mb of internal memory. I wounder if rooting fixes this issue and thats why more people dont seem to be having the issue.
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I notice your rooted and from the looks of your memory it looks like your phone is using the real sd card not the internal memorh. Im not rooted and mine looks opposite of yours i have like 7gigs free on my sd card and like 700mb of internal memory. I wounder if rooting fixes this issue and thats why more people dont seem to be having the issue.
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It's using internal for downloads and everything on my external was placed there by me manually (except for my cwm backups - I have 3 cwm backups on my SD which is hogging most of the space. I deleted 1 BU and now have 2GB+ available on my external.
I don't know if rooting makes a difference. I mean I deleted some bloatware, but none of the stock apps are that big in size, and I only removed about 10 stock apps/widgets. I only ran my phone stock for about 4 hours so idk
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hd2joel said:
The amaze 4g seems to think of its internal memory as an sd card. Its saves things that should be going to the real sd card to the phones internal memory. If you look in astro or other file managers the real sd card is listed as ext_sd and the phone dosent use it. What gives i cant find much info on this. If you manually move the files to the real sd card (ext_sd) then the game cant find the data and wants to re download it. Apps to sd and such just move things back and forth between the phone storage and the "sd card" which is really the 10gigs of internal phone space not the true sd card. Very strange. Please help.
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The internal memory is much, much faster (test it with SD Tools or AnTuTu Benchmark), so I wouldn't be in a hurry to move things to /mnt/sd_card/ext_sd. So long as you have the camera and other apps storing on on the ext_sd card, the 9GB internal should be fine for data, right?
i love how forum responses are always anything but a response to what op asked.
this is standard behavior for devices that have their own internal (mounted on android as /sdcard) storage partitions. the point is that, if this is not done, the a device with a large internal storage sees no benefit of it other than have a ridiculously large /data partition (we'd have over 13gb for apps on the amaze 4g for example).
ics has a better way of dealing with this treating the whole internal storage (no partitioning anymore) but again, the internal storage takes priority over the sdcard.
in my opinion it's better. I hated android automatically making several directories on my sdcard, but I agree the media scanner still has a way to go including media in the sdcard.
your best option if you don't like the new setup is to get a device instead with no internal storage that relies instead on a microSD
No its not when all the new games need 700mb downloads and the only program that uses the real external sd card is the camera. I love the new games with console quality games that's why i got a phone with no battery life and a ton of horse power. It wasn't to send faster texts. But any app the has a check box to save to the sd card ends up using that internal space called sd card. So i have a full phone an empty "real" sd card and the only app the knows its there is the camera. I cant download my audio books unless i delete a game. I cant use that external space for anything but pictures. 16gb is a lot of space just for pictures. I get internal memory is faster i just wish other apps could use it. Not just the camera app. Its dumb to call that space sd card when every app thinks that space is an external sd card. No app looks for an ext_sd card. So your 32gig class 10 card you spenf $100 for cant be used for anything but pictures its a dumb programming move.
jubeh said:
i love how forum responses are always anything but a response to what op asked.
this is standard behavior for devices that have their own internal (mounted on android as /sdcard) storage partitions. the point is that, if this is not done, the a device with a large internal storage sees no benefit of it other than have a ridiculously large /data partition (we'd have over 13gb for apps on the amaze 4g for example).
ics has a better way of dealing with this treating the whole internal storage (no partitioning anymore) but again, the internal storage takes priority over the sdcard.
in my opinion it's better. I hated android automatically making several directories on my sdcard, but I agree the media scanner still has a way to go including media in the sdcard.
your best option if you don't like the new setup is to get a device instead with no internal storage that relies instead on a microSD
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Great answer if you don't like it get a phone with no internal memory brilliant! Why can't they just save the name sdcard for true external sdcards? The point of a ton of internal memory is to have a ton of internal memory so i dont get your point of no benefit. The benefit is i have 13 gigs for all these games that require almost a gig of space. I think thats why they started putting that much internal memory. With the new power of these phones the apps are getting huge. So put a lot of very fast internal storage space. And then you can use your real sdcard as you always have. Apps arnt 2mb any more. So 13gigs of app storage would be a great benefit in the day of gigabyte sized apps. SORRY FOR THE RANT IM DONE NOW. some people's kids just bother me with their logic.
Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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So... You will have the only 64GB Amaze with no light bleed? If you tape a folded piece of paper in your back cover to stop the squeaking, and somehow throw ICS on that, you can prolly sell that thing for $2M
Thanks for the clarification
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Lmao that made my night.
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Alan Corona said:
Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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Pics or it didn't happen I call full on bull**** that there is an internal "removeable" sdcard in this thing. It's a memory module aka a chip that is permanently attached to the board. I love it when kids make stuff up. Just because they named it sdcard your now super tech and going to remove and up grade it. Lol some peoples kids. Anything to make yourself sound cool get a life really. Or show me pic of this internal card shouldn't be hard for a super tech of your skill lol.
Alan Corona said:
Hey guys, ima level 3 technician and I use to work at a T-Mobile refurb center and have worked at RIM and to end some confusion.
The internal memory is in fact an sd card ranging in sizes from 4-32 gigabytes class 6, I've worked on my phone personally just to double check and found one as well
I'm currently in the process of decrypting the format of my internal sd card so I can transfer it and swap it with a 32gb patriot class 10 just a little info I wanted to share, also the capacitive buttons light leak is due to a physical malfunction in the amazes hardware where the screen and glass met which makes a slight crevice where in turn the light leaks thru creating that dreaded overshoot,
I fixed this by opening up my phone ( I do not advise this I am a professional and have all my equipment so I don't make mistakes) and putting a line of electric tape (black) between the two so there is no longer any way the light can leak thru.
again I don't advise any of this simply giving some information on these problems
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Lol a 12yearold T-Mobile rim working super tech you made my day, really thank you ,oh yeah & electric tape only comes in black just an fyi
I will post pics thank you
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hd2joel said:
electric tape only comes in black just an fyi
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Lol I hope you're joking
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hd2joel said:
Pics or it didn't happen I call full on bull**** that there is an internal "removeable" sdcard in this thing. It's a memory module aka a chip that is permanently attached to the board. I love it when kids make stuff up. Just because they named it sdcard your now super tech and going to remove and up grade it. Lol some peoples kids. Anything to make yourself sound cool get a life really. Or show me pic of this internal card shouldn't be hard for a super tech of your skill lol.
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This coming from the same guy that thought the s-off thread was bull**** because the hboot build date time stamp was the same in both pictures. Who are you again and why have you come to troll the amaze boards? You're clearly out of your league here pal....
this forum is full of haters. Why not just give the guy the benefit.
Chuck Norris CAN touch MC Hammer!
This thread has ran it's course.
Closed.
Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
Flash the Google edition ROM. Or you can get a micro SD card. Maybe use Google drive?
If you're in your return window, return it and get the 32GB version.
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Jakob13 said:
Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
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Buying an external SD card is definitely the answer.
I bought a 64GB SD from Sandisk, I was having problems just like everyone else. The card would unexpectedly unmount every few minutes, so I couldn't listen to music without being interrupted. However, Sandisk is fully aware of the problems its cards are having with Samsung phones. I contacted them, they sent me a new card with an "updated firmware". I have had the card for nearly a month now, and haven't had any issues with it. They have solved the problem.
So if you buy a card that has come right out of the factory, you, too, should have zero issues. If you buy one that is a little old, you can contact them and they'll send you a new one that WILL work.
You have very few options without a SD card. 9 GB of storage is far too little, and cloud storage is just messy. You shouldn't have to rely on mobile networks to have access to your data.
Hit thanks if I helped you, and good luck if you decide to buy an SD card.
I wish I would've waited until they released the 32 gb version, but I'm well past the return date. I've deleted most bloatware I don't want, but I still would like to keep some of it, so I can't flash the google edition rom. I'd rather just delete it myself, but I'm using root explorer and I heard that causes problems. I'll probably just get an sd card and update my phone. I don't know how seeing as I've rooted it, but I can worry about that later!
I still don't get how there can be so much bloatware. I know there's the OS, but that can't be more than 4. Most of the bloat apps aren't even that big. Anyways, thanks for the help.
Jakob13 said:
Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
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Your misc files should not change if you delete bloat. If it did decrease in size, that would be a major cause for concern, as those don't represent the bloat you deleted. Debloating really isn't going to gain you any usable space because the apps that you are deleting reside on the system partition. Bloated or not, that partition is going to remain the exact same size regardless. Deleting apps from it does not make that space available to user apps or storage- it remains available only to /system.
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Jakob13 said:
I wish I would've waited until they released the 32 gb version, but I'm well past the return date. I've deleted most bloatware I don't want, but I still would like to keep some of it, so I can't flash the google edition rom. I'd rather just delete it myself, but I'm using root explorer and I heard that causes problems. I'll probably just get an sd card and update my phone. I don't know how seeing as I've rooted it, but I can worry about that later!
I still don't get how there can be so much bloatware. I know there's the OS, but that can't be more than 4. Most of the bloat apps aren't even that big. Anyways, thanks for the help.
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No, you won't have to update your phone. Your phone wasn't causing the problem. When I said they "updated the firmware" I was talking about the SD card. If you get a Sandisk card straight out of the factory now, it should work with your S4 regardless of your root status or your custom rom.
So to be perfectly clear, Samsung didn't update its firmware, Sandisk did.
If your SD card doesn't work, simply contact Sandisk and they'll send you one that works. Simple as that. You WILL NOT have to change ANYTHING with your phone.
najaboy said:
Your misc files should not change if you delete bloat. If it did decrease in size, that would be a major cause for concern, as those don't represent the bloat you deleted. Debloating really isn't going to gain you any usable space because the apps that you are deleting reside on the system partition. Bloated or not, that partition is going to remain the exact same size regardless. Deleting apps from it does not make that space available to user apps or storage- it remains available only to /system.
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I was under the impression that doing that does free up space. An sd card really is my salvation here.
Spike96 said:
No, you won't have to update your phone. Your phone wasn't causing the problem. When I said they "updated the firmware" I was talking about the SD card. If you get a Sandisk card straight out of the factory now, it should work with your S4 regardless of your root status or your custom rom.
So to be perfectly clear, Samsung didn't update its firmware, Sandisk did.
If your SD card doesn't work, simply contact Sandisk and they'll send you one that works. Simple as that. You WILL NOT have to change ANYTHING with your phone.
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I know little about how moving apps to sd cards works, but I was saying that because I rooted before the new update so I'll need to update to move apps unless apps2sd works.
najaboy, I have a question because you seem to be knowledgeable about this. How is it that just system memory takes up 6.38 GB? Is it because of Samsung exclusive features like touchwiz and all those airgimmicks?
Jakob13 said:
I was under the impression that doing that does free up space. An sd card really is my salvation here.
I know little about how moving apps to sd cards works, but I was saying that because I rooted before the new update so I'll need to update to move apps unless apps2sd works.
najaboy, I have a question because you seem to be knowledgeable about this. How is it that just system memory takes up 6.38 GB? Is it because of Samsung exclusive features like touchwiz and all those airgimmicks?
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AH! Ok I see what your saying. I don't think it is necessary to lose root to move apps to your SD, though. I've seen a lot of positive comments about Foldermount. Foldermount should free up space in your internal storage no problem. Check it out.
I'm also pretty confident that soon the rom devs will incorporate the update that Verizon put out into their own roms.
And about your question to najaboy, the 6.38 GB is everything that makes your phone's software. Yes, air gestures, smart stay, all of that. I do find it a little misleading Samsung advertises a 16GB phone, but I like keeping my data on a card anyway.
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Spike96 said:
AH! Ok I see what your saying. I don't think it is necessary to lose root to move apps to your SD, though. I've seen a lot of positive comments about Foldermount. Foldermount should free up space in your internal storage no problem. Check it out.
I'm also pretty confident that soon the rom devs will incorporate the update that Verizon put out into their own roms.
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Root is a prerequisite.
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