Q: extended battery what to edit? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok I have had a 3500mah for quite some time... I'm getting tired of the battery saying 1% for a whole day so I never know when it will die. I have read to edit build.prop but my build.prop has nothing to do with the battery mah....
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Come on guys?
I'm using cyanogen.
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Not sure if this helps, but have you tried wipeing the battery stats .bin file and reboot? Or use a battery callibration app? Sorry if ya already tried that.

Again, this has been covered in the Mugen battery thread. Due to a hardware limitation in the Atrix, the battery level from 100% to 2% covers 2000mah after that the phone will show 1% for the remaining capacitance of the battery.

gandalf_grey91 said:
Again, this has been covered in the Mugen battery thread. Due to a hardware limitation in the Atrix, the battery level from 100% to 2% covers 2000mah after that the phone will show 1% for the remaining capacitance of the battery.
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Finally someone read my post XD

gandalf_grey91 said:
Again, this has been covered in the Mugen battery thread. Due to a hardware limitation in the Atrix, the battery level from 100% to 2% covers 2000mah after that the phone will show 1% for the remaining capacitance of the battery.
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Strange....wonder if the Photon is really that much different from Atrix. I actually had modded the power-profiles.xml in the framework-res and got my phone to show the proper charge whereby I ended up with it starting at 100% and finally dying at 1% 33 hours later (showing proper charge the entireway).

gandalf_grey91 said:
Again, this has been covered in the Mugen battery thread. Due to a hardware limitation in the Atrix, the battery level from 100% to 2% covers 2000mah after that the phone will show 1% for the remaining capacitance of the battery.
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Just don't believe it...
Why on factory firmware, with full charge, let the phone die down to about 20% than reboot the phone and it will show 100% again. This would last me 3 days farily easy with a reboot or two to get a better %
With cyanogenmod it will just show 1% for a while and seems like it doesn't last as long.
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[Q] Atrix Extended Battery?

Hi i just bought an extended battery for mi motorola atrix
this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250875762047?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
And i happening something i let the battery die and then chage it all night long about 8 hours and then after i unplugged after 10 minutes i just have 78%, is unchargin 1% about every two minutes and then when the phone hit 1% it did not turn off it stay on 1% for about 3 hours
What can i do?
Thanks!!
carlos20h said:
Hi i just bought an extended battery for mi motorola atrix
this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250875762047?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
And i happening something i let the battery die and then chage it all night long about 8 hours and then after i unplugged after 10 minutes i just have 78%, is unchargin 1% about every two minutes and then when the phone hit 1% it did not turn off it stay on 1% for about 3 hours
What can i do?
Thanks!!
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Would suggest not buying batteries off eBay
stick with the reputable sources such as Seidio or OEM stuff.
You bought the battery from China.
There have been multiple cases reported about lower capacity batteries shipped out of there with a fake battery sticker slapped on to look legit.
It's best to go OEM with batteries.
Unless someone has a great rep, it's basically buyer beware...
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You need to reset your battery stats after a full charge.
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jimmer411 said:
You need to reset your battery stats after a full charge.
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Well every time you switch even from factory batteries to even anything else (even same OEM from your friends phone) battery you need to wipe stats. This will keep all batteries working great. And muuuuuch more accurate.

Train the battery?

So i am a recent convert coming from a RAZR and would like to know whats the best way to train the battery. The RAZR was horrible.
What do you mean train it?
I think he means as far as calibrate it from the beginning. Usually when I take a phone outta the box ill let the battery dir from there. No immediate charge. And then ill charge it and let it completely die 3 times. Done that with all my devices in the past few years and usually works like a charm. But when root comes we can add battery tweaks and such. My battery right now isn't too bad, but my EVO 3D was a lil better. I love this frkken phone
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Ah, I just let it die and then charged it all the way up. No issues here!
AtLemacks said:
Ah, I just let it die and then charged it all the way up. No issues here!
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Nope me either
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The app battery calibration from the market works well too
I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
brockeverly said:
I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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Because it stops taking charge when its full. Otherwise you would wake up with little pieces of your rezound all over the room .
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Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
e90driver said:
Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Doing one time is probably more helpful than hurtful though.
Yea. Where you should probably run it down low when for the first few charges. I wouldn't totally kill it. Over about a week you should see a little improvement as it settles
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e90driver said:
Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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After flashing a Rom you have to calibrate battery by letting it drain fully and then fully recharge so can't be that hurtful. Now letting it sit at 0% for 5 hours is not such a good idea.
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Grnlantern79 said:
After flashing a Rom you have to calibrate battery by letting it drain fully and then fully recharge so can't be that hurtful. Now letting it sit at 0% for 5 hours is not such a good idea.
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Well u can do that yes. Or u can wipe battery status. Or download battery calibrator from the market.
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Do most of you guys keep your phones plugged in (charging) as long as you are around a USB port/wall outlet or not? Unless I buy a battery booster, I don't like the thought of my phone being any less than topped off in the event that I can't charge it for a while. I'm aware that the battery can't be over-charged, but keeping it at 100% so much of the time doesn't seem like a good way to treat it. :/
Won't hurt it , people in the office have been doing it forever.
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Never let your battery die completely. That puts stress on the battery.
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reverepats said:
I think he means as far as calibrate it from the beginning. Usually when I take a phone outta the box ill let the battery dir from there. No immediate charge. And then ill charge it and let it completely die 3 times. Done that with all my devices in the past few years and usually works like a charm. But when root comes we can add battery tweaks and such. My battery right now isn't too bad, but my EVO 3D was a lil better. I love this frkken phone
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Thats what I always do and always recomend.
brockeverly said:
I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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Thats by design to stop it from over charging and to keep the battery fresh.
e90driver said:
Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Every one is quick to say this... But I ask you... By how much? Any hard numbers on that?
My point is... The battery is not going to last forever to begin with. If I get 12 months out of the battery that is 6 months longer than I would have used the device the battery is powering
con247 said:
Doing one time is probably more helpful than hurtful though.
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Indeed! Every once in a while it will not hurt your battery in a measurable way.
androidaddict23 said:
Never let your battery die completely. That puts stress on the battery.
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Everything you do with your phone stresses your battery.
Point being... As reverepats said... For the first few charges its good to drain it down then full charge it back up. Your not hurting the battery in such a way its going to noticeably shorten the life span.
This by the way doesnt do much for the battery itself... More for the OS. The OS compiles statics on usage, etc... This helps the OS "learn" the battery.
Now to counter point I made above...
The OS will also learn the battery over time... By doing cycle charges you are only speeding it up some. I still recommend cycle charging. I try to do it about once a week.
The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
bgmikejr said:
The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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Yeah, I have heard of others using that method as well.
bgmikejr said:
The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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But, but, that requires me to leave this beautiful phone turned off for a while, I'm not sure I can survive that torture...

Which battery i should buy

I am planning to buy a new battery bcoz the one i got is not showing accurate charge and stays on 1% most of the time from the first day.If someone knows a website from where i can buy a battery that can show correct charge reading on the battery indicator plz do tell me.I would also like to know if there is a extended battery that shows the correct charge and can fit in stock battery cover.
Thanks
Have you tried fully draining that battery? I was having the same issues where my phone would hang at one percent. But after a full drain it can solve the issue. After draining try to charge it to one hundred.
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ce12373 said:
Have you tried fully draining that battery? I was having the same issues where my phone would hang at one percent. But after a full drain it can solve the issue. After draining try to charge it to one hundred.
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I have tried that many times its not working for me and i don't think so it will work bcoz when i checked the total capacity of the battery in a root explorer charge-full-design is only showing 500 which should be 1880.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554966
Follow those instructions first then see how it acts. sounds like you just need to recalibrate
I have followed this and almost all other battery calibration tutorial threads given here but nothing worked.
When its is fully charged or says it is what mv reading do u have?
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Pbwizkid said:
When its is fully charged or says it is what mv reading do u have?
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The phone charges to 100 % before reaching the total mv but when i keep it on charge for more time it charges to 4200mv.Actually battery life is fine just like a normal battery the only problem is that the phone doesn't recognize it as 1880mah battery that's what i think bcoz charge-full-design is 500mah which should be 1880mah.
If you do end up buying a new battery, try and buy one from Motorola. There may be off-brand companies with low-priced one, but they most likely will not old a charge for as long as an OEM battery.
I'm not convinced the battery is at fault I think its a issue with ur current rom
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Pbwizkid said:
I'm not convinced the battery is at fault I think its a issue with ur current rom
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No its not an issue bcoz of rom I have I have flashed almost all the roms given in development section.
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I bought two Anker ones on Amazon and they came with a charger that charges them outside of the phone as well. Three batteries and an external charger and you're ready for anything. Haven't noticed that they last longer, but if you've got enough, it doesnt matter how long they last
tomaslxix said:
I bought two Anker ones on Amazon and they came with a charger that charges them outside of the phone as well. Three batteries and an external charger and you're ready for anything. Haven't noticed that they last longer, but if you've got enough, it doesnt matter how long they last
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How is the battery meter is it showing the charge correctly or like mine drops to 1% and stay there for many hours until the phone power off.
terminator1983 said:
How is the battery meter is it showing the charge correctly or like mine drops to 1% and stay there for many hours until the phone power off.
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Nope, hasn't happened to me. Maybe try some recalibrating or something or wipe your battery stats... Mine have been totally normal ever since I got them
tomaslxix said:
Nope, hasn't happened to me. Maybe try some recalibrating or something or wipe your battery stats... Mine have been totally normal ever since I got them
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If u have a rooted atrix can check how much value charge-full-design is showing with ur Anker battery.
/sys/class/power_supply/batter/charge_full_design.

Discharging a battery properly?

What is the proper way ? I've looked online and people say differently. People say let your battery drop to 15 percent or a little under then fully charge. Then others say let the battery completely run out until the battery dies then fully charge it, but I heard letting the battery completely is bad and not necessary. So what exactly do people when when they say fully discharge or battery manufactures when then say fully discharge a brand new battery then charge?
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Down to atleast 3%. That's how I've done it for years. Every opinion differs though
I always charge my phone when I know I will need a full charge, I never really cared about the battery percentage too much, but I do agree that there is no real wrong way.
It's my understanding that in order to properly calibrate a battery you must completely drain it.
From what I've gathered the battery needs to know what a "full charge" is and the only way to get a full charge is to be completely empty.
So following instructions from threads back on the MT4G forums I calibrate my battery by:
1. Letting it completely die.
2. Turning it back on just to make sure it dies again. And I do this til it won't turn on again.
3. Then charging it, while off, til it has a green light.
4. Then I unplug it, turn it on, turn it off and plug it back in til green.
Whether this really really makes a difference or not...well I can't say for sure
but my battery lasts longer than my sister's Amaze.
Hope that helps.
daswahnsinn said:
I always charge my phone when I know I will need a full charge, I never really cared about the battery percentage too much, but I do agree that there is no real wrong way.
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same with me, I never bother with letting it drain fully, I did with my first phone, and a few months after I got it the battery was pooched, so from then on I never cared. plus with the cost of getting a replacement, or even aftermarket batteries like anker, not following procedure to drain then charge a battery is a no brainer for me.
But, if I did care, then I'd drain it fully, then charge it back up. the percentages on my phone aren't accurate anyway. Actually today I was playing blade master and I kept getting the battery warning, and it was pretty steady from 20 down to 5, then hung there for a while, maybe an extra 15-20 mins, then died. so percentages are approximate. a full drain and then full charge should do.
What the other guy listed in steps is correct, though I'll give you a heads up, the amaze battery is total ***** when it dies completely, so be prepared to have it plugged in alllllllll night for it to charge.
Just got my self a replacement, the battery ended up dying, took me four hours to move 8%, was about to go buy a replacement the next day, but I let it charge overnight, it's been remarkable since then.
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What the other guy listed in steps is correct, though I'll give you a heads up, the amaze battery is total ***** when it dies completely, so be prepared to have it plugged in alllllllll night for it to charge.
Just got my self a replacement, the battery ended up dying, took me four hours to move 8%, was about to go buy a replacement the next day, but I let it charge overnight, it's been remarkable since then.
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Thanks Dark, I love being called "the other guy".
I'm just messin...lol.
Thanks guys for all the feedback will give it a whirl and yea the amaze battery is tough haha.
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nguyendqh said:
Thanks Dark, I love being called "the other guy".
I'm just messin...lol.
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Lol my bad bro, I was just too lazy to scroll up to look for your name.
So, if you would care about calibrating, do you let it die and fully charge every time you flash a ROM? Or just the very first time when it's new?
Seems every battery is different. I let mine die completely and then charge overnight, but had the green light after an hour and half. I let it stay on though overnight.
I personally didn't see a drastic difference.
A lot of folks day to wipe your battery stats as that helps. I have yet to try that.
Just kinda deal with the 8-12 hours I get on ICS. I used to get 12-16 with gingerbread.
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Wiping battery stats doesn't help, IMO, for the number of times I've tested it on a few devices. My results so far just shows that wiping it just fools the device to stay full longer than it should but after the battery passes the 90% physically it starts making rapid drops until it stabilizes somewhere around 50%.
Right now I'm letting the battery die. This is the life on 4g and listening to pandora lol wow. What awesome battery life this is with the brightness at 25 percent and a 2000 mah battery heh.
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Hehe this is just funny.
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Here are some facts, I hope you can find them useful:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
The link was reposted like 10 times already
ickedmel said:
Right now I'm letting the battery die. This is the life on 4g and listening to pandora lol wow. What awesome battery life this is with the brightness at 25 percent and a 2000 mah battery heh.
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2000 mah?
Which battery are you using?
nguyendqh said:
2000 mah?
Which battery are you using?
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Andida for HTC evo 3D got it off eBay though I think I prefer stock
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[Q] Anker battery issues

I recently purchased the Anker battery for my Amaze. I've done the suggested 4 full battery drains and charge, but I've noticed something odd. Right after taking my phone off the charger, the % drops pretty rapidly, roughly 10% in about 30 min, with almost no usage. The level continues to drop pretty rapidly till the % gets down to about 70%, where it seems to stabilize, and drop at a slower rate. Anyone else seen this issue, or know what might be causing it?
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Mine does it too. But it stabilizes around 80% and I can get a good 16hrs with moderate-high usage and about 3hrs screen time. I was reading somewhere that this is a common issue with Anker Batteries.
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Ok, good to know I'm not the only one! Lol.
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Yeah. Same here. I believe it is a driver issue since the battery is not OEM.
hasoon2000 said:
Yeah. Same here. I believe it is a driver issue since the battery is not OEM.
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yap, and the Anker battery is way better than the stock one.
I agree! Once it levels out somewhere around 80%ish, the battery life is amazing! A great investment indeed!
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This isn't a problem with your specific battery, it has to with overcharge prevention.
Essentially, once your battery is fully charged and the LED on your phone flashes green, the phone's battery is no longer charging, and it is actually running on stand-by off of the battery. Perpetually trickle charging the battery would shorten the life of it.
As a result, the battery consumes some energy while the device is in stand-by, but until the device reaches 80% or so, it doesn't start to re-charge. Because it is still plugged in, the device is reporting a full battery, even if it has been running on stand-by for hours on that charge.
There are kernel modifications that can change this, but unless it's an issue for you, I would avoid doing so for the long term preservation of your battery.
Ebonyks said:
This isn't a problem with your specific battery, it has to with overcharge prevention.
Essentially, once your battery is fully charged and the LED on your phone flashes green, the phone's battery is no longer charging, and it is actually running on stand-by off of the battery. Perpetually trickle charging the battery would shorten the life of it.
As a result, the battery consumes some energy while the device is in stand-by, but until the device reaches 80% or so, it doesn't start to re-charge. Because it is still plugged in, the device is reporting a full battery, even if it has been running on stand-by for hours on that charge.
There are kernel modifications that can change this, but unless it's an issue for you, I would avoid doing so for the long term preservation of your battery.
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Thanks for the explanation!! Kernel mods?? Um, I'll pass... Lol. I can definitely live with it! I'm getting 14+ hrs with moderate-heavy use!
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Could it be the voltage?
I know that the stock amaze battery is a higher voltage than a normal lithium ion (normal is 4.2v, the stock amaze battery is the newish 4.3v lithium ions)
I did a quick search and found something similar with the sensation..
Someone in said thread even mentions voltage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1319605.html
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yap, and the Anker battery is way better than the stock one.
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I have two Anker batteries, bought at the same time. Both were conditions per instructions. One of them has great battery time, the other has very poor battery time. I think it is hit or miss with these batteries.
If you're interested, I think you'd be able to get that stabilization (after then initial drop) a little higher if you tried calibrating as per here. I'm at about 90 for the one I calibrated, 80 for the other.
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If you're interested, I think you'd be able to get that stabilization (after then initial drop) a little higher if you tried calibrating as per here. I'm at about 90 for the one I calibrated, 80 for the other.
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Yes, I have done that - it is the instructions that came with the batteries.
Sorry, that was directed at the op, and fwiw conditioning (as per the Anker instructions) is separate from calibration.
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try using the battery calibration app. that always resolves battery issues when flashing new roms (at least for me it does)
xDC23 said:
try using the battery calibration app. that always resolves battery issues when flashing new roms (at least for me it does)
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Yes, I do that also, but this has not helped that 2nd Anker battery.

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