Galaxy S3 VS EVO 4G LTE - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Galaxy S3 VS EVO 4G LTE - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

hey everyone, I currently have the EVO 4g LTE, and really like it. although, I'm wondering if I should switch to the galaxy s3. do you guys think that its worth the switch?

Oh please no. Threads like these cause chaos
Here's the bottom line though and this applies to everyone:
You will never have the "best" phone out there because there will always be something better. And not only to that point, but different phones have different strengths and weaknesses. I recommend you try the S3, either go to the store or if a friend of yours has it swap phones with him or her for a couple of days. Don't make the decision based on what's the "best" phone but rather what is the best phone for yourself.
Considering the fact that you really like your Evo, there's no need (in my opinion) to jump onto a new device.
On a personal note, I dislike Samsung phones (although their monitors are AWESOME) so while I do like the hardware components of it, it would not invoke a switch for me. Not to mention the LTE is a brand new phone anyway and I'm not planning on spending full retail for any phones in the near future
Either way, whatever you decide, I hope it works out for you. In the future though, don't post these threads in a forum which is dedicated to either phone. You will get answers results because people that have the phone have it for a reason

Points you'll here from people who wouldn't give it a thought:
1. Higher Pixel Density Screen Thats Visible In Sunlight (3 sub pixels for every pixel compared to the samsungs 2 sub pixel pentil display)
2. Current App Market Has No Use For 2GB of RAM (I can open 20 apps on my phone and it wont lag)
3. Higher Aperture Camera And Better Camera Software Plus A Camera Button
4. Beats Audio, Sense Widgets, and HTC's better radios.

MARIO SHARK said:
hey everyone, I currently have the EVO 4g LTE, and really like it. although, I'm wondering if I should switch to the galaxy s3. do you guys think that its worth the switch?
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Follow-up question: Which is better - Mac or PC?
You will obviously always be able to find somebody to tell you what you want to hear. If one device was perfect, there wouldn't be any other devices.
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im in the same boat as you OP and i've been thinking about it for the past couple days and, no doubt, for the next coming days until launch. but until it touches down you have to decide what you would rather have in a phone:
screen (realistic + vibrant vs oversaturation + deeper blacks)
UI --> sense vs twiz OR stock vs custom roms
kickstand + camera button vs not
form factor vs case (if youre going to put it in a case then form factor hardly matters anymore)
non\removable battery (keep in mind, replacing an nfc battery will prob cost more than usual)
the biggest thing to consider, i would think, is the user interface. for a stock experience, the s3 has more goodies, but if youre going to rip stock off whichever phone you get then next to consider is the screen, which i would determine by going to a sprint store and comparing the displays btwn the lte and the nexus, which is pretty fricken hard, but good luck
something to keep in mind: thinking about jumping ship to another phone can be seem more tempting bc you've already passed the "honeymoon" phase by already having the lte, dont let the shiney newness of the s3 make you to make the wrong decision - compare the facts, when you think you've decided, compare them again.

The only thing better is the ram. A different launcher pretty much eliminates what people think of when they see the word touchwiz or sense.
The evo feels way better to hold. i had a nexus s and while it did feel ok it was very plastic. The gs3 will be the same.
Pretty much the use of the phone will be the same. They will both have their hitches every so often which is an Android issue. It really comes down to personal preference.
What opinions do you think you will get in the evo forum.

Hmmmm ok. I'm only thinking that I should make the change since I've been with HTC for 3 years. I'm wondering if its time for a change
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I think it honestly boils down to better screen vs. 2 gigs of RAM. Take your pick.

MARIO SHARK said:
Hmmmm ok. I'm only thinking that I should make the change since I've been with HTC for 3 years. I'm wondering if its time for a change
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
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Might be, I did just the opposite. My entire android experience besides a brief time with a hero has been with Samsung. I decided to switch without looking back and couldn't be happier I did. These high end gadgets will always have their pluses and minuses but in the end either way the experience is much better once you commit and start enjoying what you have and not comparing anymore.
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I know people say the extra ram won't matter But let me remind you all that the htc sensation had 768 (or close) to it ram and the gs2 had 1 gig the htc evo 3d also had 1 gig and the phones with 1 gig didn't suffer from the lag the sensation had from lower ram, they were much smoother . My old pc had half a gig of ram in it an it ran like **** slow very slow. My friend put another half a gig stick in the computer and when it booted up i couldnt believe it that much faster. Point I'm trying to make I's there not putting a extra 1gig of ram in the phone for nothing ,there's gonna be a difference but I'll let it playout when the gs3 release . I'll keep my told you card in my back pocket till then lol. Still keeping my evo unless Samsung pull off a greater phone i pre ordered the gs3 with intentions to sell it on Ebay .
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Cry Havoc said:
I think it honestly boils down to better screen vs. 2 gigs of RAM. Take your pick.
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I agree. The Pentile screen is a deal breaker for me, but boy am I jealous of the 2 gigs of RAM. While others may not see the benefits of it, I sure would.
Choosing between high end devices is simply an evaluation of your needs vs the feature set, not which is the best per se.
Maybe one day all of us can have our specific needs and wants addressed and have the perfect phone..... for us.
(I've also heard there's a big difference in the quality of the radios which also swung me towards the EVO)

The pentile screen on the sgs3 isn't the noticible... A friend of mine got the global version of the sgs3 and you can even tell the difference between sgs3 screen to the EVO 4g LTE screen... Very minor differences.

Network, Network, Network
I would honestly say that the difference between the two phones will be pretty slim. Question becomes what you need the phone to do when you are in your normal routine. Luckily I live 10 blocks from my place of employment in a mid-major metropolitan area (nearly 300,000 people) and I am on Wifi most of the time. Unfortunately Sprint will not be rolling out 4g here anytime soon. If I didn't have Wifi as much as I do I would have switched to Verizon a long time ago. Was promised Wi-Max with the OG and never got close to getting it within 150 miles. I would think that the Evo would have a more dedicated development community from my experience with the OG but I could be wrong.

My question is more based towards rooting, and development.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removable battery, thus a battery pull cannot be done in the event of a boot loop.
The Sammy GS3 on the other hand does have a removable battery.
What are some thoughts on this?

silentstryder said:
My question is more based towards rooting, and development.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removable battery, thus a battery pull cannot be done in the event of a boot loop.
The Sammy GS3 on the other hand does have a removable battery.
What are some thoughts on this?
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Holding the power button for 20 seconds or so does the same thing. It interrupts the circuit as if you pulled the battery.
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AllI know is a tablet like the transformer prime has 1gb ram and no one complains. The only reason people complain is because there is now a device with more, even if it doesn't matter. I doubt there is even one app in the market that can make use of more ram other than a ram benchmark.

Very legitimate question, OP. Normally this would be very easy to shrug off as flame-bait, but what we need to keep in mind is the overlap between these two devices. Because of the LTEVO's delay, its return window comes extremely close to the GS3's launch, so we're in a very unique (and beneficial) situation. Many of us are able to test both phones before making our final decision. I had my LTEVO for almost 2 weeks before returning it to Wirefly. Don't get me wrong, for the most part, I LOVED the phone, but I would have REALLY been bummed if for whatever reason the Galaxy S III ends up being a much better phone. If we're able to test both, why not wait? Wait a few weeks is a much easier pill to swallow than waiting a few months (thank you LTEVO delay).

I think it's really gonna depend on sense vs touch wiz vs custom roms and mods. I loved all the custom roms and mods that came with the original EVO. I had the S2 but my favorite developers stayed with HTC. Samsung phones are awesome, but it needs more developers.
Forgot to add that I had the S2 2x before and after LOS. Now the signal sucks and its a new kernel update every 3 days. Had a lot of software issues, but great phone.

AsinX said:
Points you'll here from people who wouldn't give it a thought:
1. Higher Pixel Density Screen Thats Visible In Sunlight (3 sub pixels for every pixel compared to the samsungs 2 sub pixel pentil display)
2. Current App Market Has No Use For 2GB of RAM (I can open 20 apps on my phone and it wont lag)
3. Higher Aperture Camera And Better Camera Software Plus A Camera Button
4. Beats Audio, Sense Widgets, and HTC's better radios.
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Don't forget to add that you have to shell out $40 for the new proprietary MHL cable that only samsung sells.

unknown_owner said:
Don't forget to add that you have to shell out $40 for the new proprietary MHL cable that only samsung sells.
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Yea Samsung is taking a page out of apple's book there..it seems to me.that although they are still android that Samsung is breaking away from whole team Android..IMOa proprietary mhlis ridiculous..what's next the charging port

firmbiz94 said:
Yea Samsung is taking a page out of apple's book there..it seems to me.that although they are still android that Samsung is breaking away from whole team Android..IMOa proprietary mhlis ridiculous..what's next the charging port
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Proprietary cables piss me off. I'm still mad that things went from mini-usb to micro-usb. I have had so many problems with micro-usb cables and ports. Never had a problem with mini-usb, was nice and solid. I think the micro-usb ports are crap... I too am having a problem deciding between S3 vs EVOLTE. I have the original EVO still. I wish sprint would just get the Galaxy Note/Journal, thats the phone I really want right now...

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Getting rid of Evo, What should I get?!?

So now it turns out that the screen is broken on my Evo3D (bottom part of the touchscreen is irresponsible to touches) this is after the whole motherboard got replaced after I had the phone for a month, so my carrier will probably let me have a new phone, though I might have to cough up 50-100$ myself...
Not sure what I should get though, so I'd appreciate some input!
I could get an Evo3d for free, but my faith is HTC just isn't what it used to be. It's not just the poor quality of the Evo3D I'm talking about (the touchscreen issue seems to be fairly common) it's also the fact that HTC is making us Evo3D owners wait until at least summertime to get ICS update, which is just unacceptable for what was sold as a top of the line phone...
Moto RAZR
They'd give me the Droid RAZR for 50 bucks, and I'm pretty tempted, since it looks like a nice phone. A great SAMOLED+ QHD screen (Yes I know about the pentile), expandable up to 48gb, a pretty good camera, and super thin Kevlar surface all line up for a pretty sweet package. The only thing kinda holding me back, is that the SGX540 GPU in it is kinda old, battery life is supposed to be just average, and the camera, while good, isn't as good as in the Samsung GSII or iPhone 4S.
Galaxy Nexus
I miiight be able to get a Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy Note if I cough up 100-200$ but not sure if I should go for it. Yes, it has an awesome screen and ICS, but whatever Android phone I get will have ICS in the next 3 months or so. The downside is a kinda old CPU/GPU combo (OMAP4430 and SGX540), a 5 mp camera, average battery life and only 16gb storage.
iPhone
Depending on what I'm willing to spend, they'll let me have an iphone4 for free, or 4S if I put down some cash. Between 50 and 200$ all depending on the 16/32/64 gb model. Now I know the iPhone option is kinda controversial, and if you had asked me a year ago, I'd never get an iPhone. But lately, I've gotten kinda disillusioned with Android. Even on a high end model like the Evo3D or SGSII isn't as smooth as iOS, and lag, even if very slight, is almost always present if you go to a list, for example. Theres also the issue of hardware quality and service. The last six months I've spent a couple dozen hours either trying to get an Android phone fixed, fixing issues with it, or taking it to repairs hops and waiting days or weeks for it to be repaired. With Apple you don't have to deal with all of that. They DO give really, really great service. If you take a broken phone to the Apple store, they often just outright replace it, and that counts for something IMHO.
I've had an ipad2 for the past 5 months, and I've really gotten to appreciate how fast and smooth the experience is, and how everything just works. The other advantages would be iMessage/FaceTime, which is really cool, having my phone work great together with my iPad, and the whole Apple ecosystem. Cameras are also top of the line, from what I've seen, and battery life is really good.
I know of the downsides with getting an iPhone, the biggest one would be the 3.5 inch screen. No matter how awesome, bright and sharp it is, it will take some getting used to, to go from a 4.3 inch screen to a 3.5 inch screen.
Other phones, like a Samsung or HTC are also available for me to get, this is just my top3. I'd really appreciate your input, and let me know what phone you'd get next in my situation... Thanks!

Based on your phone listing's looks like you have the GSM version. I would go with either the GN or the Note if it is not to big for you.
The GSM GN has pretty good battery life from what I have seen. The CDMA is not as good which is that I own. Needs the extended battery on CDMA to get decent life. There are a lot of people with the GSM version who get an average of 5 hours on-screen time. To me that is some pretty good battery life.
The downside like you said is only 16gigs of storage on the GSM GN without an SD slot. I just do not get that at all! Why only 16 on a device that cannot be expanded! Luckily the CDMA version came with 32gigs.
I owned the CDMA EVO 3D back in the day, then went to the Epic 4G touch which blows the 3D away. The GN is more in a league with the SGS2 then the EVO 3D. The GN is super smooth.
I personally stay away from Moto's, especially if you like to flash things...

I have been really fortunate not to have any trouble with my evo 3d. I also had the og evo before the 3d.
My next phone will not be htc though. Im very disappointed about ics being pushed back.
Anyway, from your list of phones to choose from i would not hesitate on switching. To the galaxy nexus. Ive had a chance to play around with it a few times and really love it. Updates will always be faster to and of course it comes with the new chip for mobile purchasing. Really comes down to your personal preference and needs really. Your listed phones are all great products. I will never purchase an apple product, but i know a lot of people that love them. Good luck to you.
Sent from one Fresh Honey Sensed Evo 3D

chROMed said:
I have been really fortunate not to have any trouble with my evo 3d. I also had the og evo before the 3d.
My next phone will not be htc though. Im very disappointed about ics being pushed back.
Anyway, from your list of phones to choose from i would not hesitate on switching. To the galaxy nexus. Ive had a chance to play around with it a few times and really love it. Updates will always be faster to and of course it comes with the new chip for mobile purchasing. Really comes down to your personal preference and needs really. Your listed phones are all great products. I will never purchase an apple product, but i know a lot of people that love them. Good luck to you.
Sent from one Fresh Honey Sensed Evo 3D
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There's no way of telling about the updates. Google's last flagship device has been completely ignored and won't get ICS. Doesn't really matter to me as I have faith in the xda community to get any updates on to it.
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XzinteR said:
There's no way of telling about the updates. Google's last flagship device has been completely ignored and won't get ICS. Doesn't really matter to me as I have faith in the xda community to get any updates on to it.
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What is Google's last flagship device that is not getting ICS?

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What is Google's last flagship device that is not getting ICS?
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Nexus S. Some of the gsm nexus s models got ics and there was a leak of an ics updates for the 4g... After that no updates..... Yet...

Any high end HTC, that is if you like and value Dev support here on XDA

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Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S2 i9100. Those two phones are by far the best supported phones development wise on this site. It's only going to get bigger with the GS2 likely decreasing if the GS3 makes a big enough impact.
No HTC phone besides the Sensation compares development wise right now. A few legacy devices here and there, but for the specs, the two phones I mentioned above cannot be beat right now.

I'm in the same boat, well I'm selling mine, I'm so disappointed in HTC, too many freezing up and restarting by itself on stock rom, moving on

chlehqls said:
Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S2 i9100. Those two phones are by far the best supported phones development wise on this site. It's only going to get bigger with the GS2 likely decreasing if the GS3 makes a big enough impact.
No HTC phone besides the Sensation compares development wise right now. A few legacy devices here and there, but for the specs, the two phones I mentioned above cannot be beat right now.
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Thanks! The one thing I REALLY liked about the Evo was the QHD screen. So I really don't want to go back to an 800*480 screen. The Moto Razr and Galaxy Nexus have pretty much the same CPU/GPU right? OMAP 4430/60

vszulc said:
Thanks! The one thing I REALLY liked about the Evo was the QHD screen. So I really don't want to go back to an 800*480 screen. The Moto Razr and Galaxy Nexus have pretty much the same CPU/GPU right? OMAP 4430/60
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They more or less are the same CPU. I would head over to the Galaxy Nexus forums and learn more about their processor and how it actually is a pretty remarkable in performance. Google picked out nice specs for their flagship.

vszulc said:
So now it turns out that the screen is broken on my Evo3D (bottom part of the touchscreen is irresponsible to touches) this is after the whole motherboard got replaced after I had the phone for a month, so my carrier will probably let me have a new phone, though I might have to cough up 50-100$ myself...
Not sure what I should get though, so I'd appreciate some input!
I could get an Evo3d for free, but my faith is HTC just isn't what it used to be. It's not just the poor quality of the Evo3D I'm talking about (the touchscreen issue seems to be fairly common) it's also the fact that HTC is making us Evo3D owners wait until at least summertime to get ICS update, which is just unacceptable for what was sold as a top of the line phone...
Moto RAZR
They'd give me the Droid RAZR for 50 bucks, and I'm pretty tempted, since it looks like a nice phone. A great SAMOLED+ QHD screen (Yes I know about the pentile), expandable up to 48gb, a pretty good camera, and super thin Kevlar surface all line up for a pretty sweet package. The only thing kinda holding me back, is that the SGX540 GPU in it is kinda old, battery life is supposed to be just average, and the camera, while good, isn't as good as in the Samsung GSII or iPhone 4S.
Galaxy Nexus
I miiight be able to get a Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy Note if I cough up 100-200$ but not sure if I should go for it. Yes, it has an awesome screen and ICS, but whatever Android phone I get will have ICS in the next 3 months or so. The downside is a kinda old CPU/GPU combo (OMAP4430 and SGX540), a 5 mp camera, average battery life and only 16gb storage.
iPhone
Depending on what I'm willing to spend, they'll let me have an iphone4 for free, or 4S if I put down some cash. Between 50 and 200$ all depending on the 16/32/64 gb model. Now I know the iPhone option is kinda controversial, and if you had asked me a year ago, I'd never get an iPhone. But lately, I've gotten kinda disillusioned with Android. Even on a high end model like the Evo3D or SGSII isn't as smooth as iOS, and lag, even if very slight, is almost always present if you go to a list, for example. Theres also the issue of hardware quality and service. The last six months I've spent a couple dozen hours either trying to get an Android phone fixed, fixing issues with it, or taking it to repairs hops and waiting days or weeks for it to be repaired. With Apple you don't have to deal with all of that. They DO give really, really great service. If you take a broken phone to the Apple store, they often just outright replace it, and that counts for something IMHO.
I've had an ipad2 for the past 5 months, and I've really gotten to appreciate how fast and smooth the experience is, and how everything just works. The other advantages would be iMessage/FaceTime, which is really cool, having my phone work great together with my iPad, and the whole Apple ecosystem. Cameras are also top of the line, from what I've seen, and battery life is really good.
I know of the downsides with getting an iPhone, the biggest one would be the 3.5 inch screen. No matter how awesome, bright and sharp it is, it will take some getting used to, to go from a 4.3 inch screen to a 3.5 inch screen.
Other phones, like a Samsung or HTC are also available for me to get, this is just my top3. I'd really appreciate your input, and let me know what phone you'd get next in my situation... Thanks!
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SGSII or EVO 3D is top choices out there iPhone is all brand and behind the curve otherwise I would take a photon or over iPhone LOL

sonspot said:
I'm in the same boat, well I'm selling mine, I'm so disappointed in HTC, too many freezing up and restarting by itself on stock rom, moving on
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Same here man.iam returning to sony.gonna get Xperia S soon
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I honestly wouldnt consider the 3vo to be one of the high(est) end devices now.

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I honestly wouldnt consider the 3vo to be one of the high(est) end devices now.
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It's no slouch at all. It's just older which puts you under the illusion that it is weak. Compared to other dual core devices, there aren't huge differences.
Sent from my HTC Evo 3D using XDA Premium App

Sold mine on Ebay. Bought a Epic4G touch. Not looking back. The only thing I appreciated about the Evo4G was the development community. Other than that, I'm getting twice the battery on a larger screen.
That would be my vote. And I paid full price for the Epic. Worth it.
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Lol I saw you post in a thread the other day that your next phone will either be an iPhone or a windows phone haha
Evo3D.

evo 3d seems very cheap now for a (once high end) mid range phone.

I've had nothing but good luck with my Evo 3d and love it, only thing i dont like is the flimsy backing plate. From reading your post i cant help but ask were you rooted? There are tons of great roms and app mods available in the forums here, all solve numerous issues and improve upon stock in any number of ways.
As far as choosing a phone goes, if you can get a new 3d free I'd stick it out and wait to see what's available withing the coming months, MWC just finished up and there were tons of greats devices announced.
Otherwise GSII gets my vote.

Have an Amaze, kinda want to get a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy?

So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
I played around with my friend's Window's phone on 7.5 and it worked really nicely. I couldn't find any "high-end" Windows phones that I liked that work on T-Mobile 4G. Maybe I should stay away from those. Thoughts about a WM phone or the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks for your input.

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So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
Thanks for your input.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/02/htc-one-s-review/
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edit: yes, you are crazy for wanting a overpriced phone that is already outdated lol

No you're not crazy man, Just don't switch to a new device just because it has a newer Android OS on it
and lol whenever i see the One S I see an Amaze with a new processor and screen
edit: Widows Phones are fun, I have an HTC Radar and can say that was a great phone, but its just too boring for my tastes, and the lack of classic emulators was disturbing, my HTC Inspire with similar specs ran an NES emulator better than the Radar

I was thinking about for a week. And finally made my decision. Keeping my amaze. The galaxy nexus is sexy but the amaze WILL get ics aosp and sense versions EVENTUALLY. Just be patient. I was looking at galaxy nexus on eBay and they're sooo cheap I was so tempted to click "buy it now". But the amaze is simply better except for the screen (which is arguable) and operating system (which we will get eventually) and probably running smoother than the galaxy nexus.
I'm keeping my amaze until around October
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using XDA

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No you're not crazy man, Just don't switch to a new device just because it has a newer Android OS on it
and lol whenever i see the One S I see an Amaze with a new processor and screen
edit: Widows Phones are fun, I have an HTC Radar and can say that was a great phone, but its just too boring for my tastes, and the lack of classic emulators was disturbing, my HTC Inspire with similar specs ran an NES emulator better than the Radar
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much better camera(s), much better processor, much better os, much much better build, thinner, lighter, much better screen.. I could go on lol, its definitely worth the upgrade (if you have the money). also all the accessories HTC is making for the ONE series is worth the upgrade.
If you don't have money to waste id stick with the amaze though since its not a bad device at all really. im probably upgrading to the Nokia Lumia 900 though I miss me some WP7
edit: how does nes run on wp7? is it playable
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I was thinking about for a week. And finally made my decision. Keeping my amaze. The galaxy nexus is sexy but the amaze WILL get ics aosp and sense versions EVENTUALLY. Just be patient. I was looking at galaxy nexus on eBay and they're sooo cheap I was so tempted to click "buy it now". But the amaze is simply better except for the screen (which is arguable) and operating system (which we will get eventually) and probably running smoother than the galaxy nexus.
I'm keeping my amaze until around October
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using XDA
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the galaxy nexus looks amazing, the camera is a deal breaker for me though =l

NES runs ok on the Radar, about 3/4 speed with the sound on, it should run the same on any WP7 phone with a 1Ghz processor and 512 RAM
and lol i read that the S4 smokes the tegra 3s so I can give you that, and I don't factor OS revisions when I look at newer phones simply because Android = portable most of the time nor accessories either. I just look at build quality and specs and work from there, for the longest time i saw "1.5 dual core, 1 GB RAM, aluminium build, no AT&T 3.5G bands"
gonna inject a lil bias here: I HATE pentile screens, everything looks like its through a fishnet to me lol, and samsung scared me away from any AMOLED screens thanks to their crazy color saturation
camera: More megapixels are great but how good the image sensor is is what counts, Amaze is better in both regards
Edit: call me crazy but I like a slightly heavier phone, helps give me a sense of how durable a phone is, even if it has nothing to do with durability

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NES runs ok on the Radar, about 3/4 speed with the sound on, it should run the same on any WP7 phone with a 1Ghz processor and 512 RAM
and lol i read that the S4 smokes the tegra 3s so I can give you that, and I don't factor OS revisions when I look at newer phones simply because Android = portable most of the time nor accessories either. I just look at build quality and specs and work from there, for the longest time i saw "1.5 dual core, 1 GB RAM, aluminium build, no AT&T 3.5G bands"
gonna inject a lil bias here: I HATE pentile screens, everything looks like its through a fishnet to me lol, and samsung scared me away from any AMOLED screens thanks to their crazy color saturation
camera: More megapixels are great but how good the image sensor is is what counts, Amaze is better in both regards
Edit: call me crazy but I like a slightly heavier phone, helps give me a sense of how durable a phone is, even if it has nothing to do with durability
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Yeah, the lumia 900 should handle it better. RAM doesn't really matter in WP7. i still would prefer 1gb though
benchmarks don't really mean anything. if the hardware isn't optimized for the software then the benchmarks wont be great. I would pick the one x over the one s anyday I don't like aluminum phones. I like polycarbonate plastic much more and the one x has that. i read somewhere that the one s will come with both though.
yeah pentile is horrible, i had the atrix. but, the pentile on the one S isn't noticeable at the slightness. htc did something, they wouldn't make it have a bad screen considering everyone hates the pentile on moto devices.
the one s, and one x have the same camera. the amaze and one s both have 8mp, but the one s has a MUCH better sensor, and a dedicated image chip.. i don't know what you're talking about lol, the camera flys past the amaze. have you seen the sample shots?
edit: megapixels count definitely, it depends on how you use them though. the way Nokia is on the pureview is great. will be the best camera on the mobile phone market. the one series will probably be in 2nd place and leave the amaze in 3rd

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So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
I played around with my friend's Window's phone on 7.5 and it worked really nicely. I couldn't find any "high-end" Windows phones that I liked that work on T-Mobile 4G. Maybe I should stay away from those. Thoughts about a WM phone or the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks for your input.
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You're not crazy man. Lately I've been thinking about this too.

lol sorry stratax, I was refering to the galaxy nexus with the whole camera comment, I've been really letting my cell phone knowledge slip there after getting the amaze so other than the bare basics I really havent looked into the One series all that heavily, and i thought the one s only had the aluminium shell that was hardened with some sort of high voltage process
and I'm not saying that megapixels aren't all that important, I'm saying there are other factors that contribute to how good a camera sensor is, compare the same photo across all kinds of phones with the same number of megapixels and you'll see a clear difference in the quality is all I'm saying
that nokia phone is rediculous though

Nah your not crazy, I had an amaze with a custom rom but they weren't anything special but a better stock experience. I recently got a galaxy nexus and I love it. HD screen, quality 5MP camera, and ICS plus it has a bigger screen with on screen keys which I like better. Never thought of going back to Amaze, especially with all the roms, mods, & customization but its all depends on your needs
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Nah your not crazy, I had an amaze with a custom rom but they weren't anything special but a better stock experience. I recently got a galaxy nexus and I love it. HD screen, quality 5MP camera, and ICS plus it has a bigger screen with on screen keys which I like better. Never thought of going back to Amaze, especially with all the roms, mods, & customization but its all depends on your needs
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HaHaHa. Is it ever about needs? Nope. For me, at least, it is about getting something new and in some cases, having a phone that not many others in town will have. Before we had 3G/4G on AT&T and TMO, I was buying a new phone every 3 months. Mainly Nokia N series. Remember those bad boys? Buy it, swap out the SIM and go. Now with the different 3G/4G bands on the carriers, it makes it more difficult to just buy a new phone and be happy. This doesn't work, that doesn't work, 2G only, etc. Without fail, the "other" carrier has the phone I want. Then when I switch to get that phone, the "other" carrier I just switched from gets another phone I want. It is never ending and I still to this day have the itch to buy a new phone every couple of months. I swear, I need phone purchasing/carrier switching rehab.

I've had people offer their GNexus for my Amaze and I couldn't justify the trade. The GNexus has a better screen and it's a Google phone and all, but the cons of that phone are too much for me to handle (no microSD slot, terrible camera, etc).

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i've had people offer their gnexus for my amaze and i couldn't justify the trade. The gnexus has a better screen and it's a google phone and all, but the cons of that phone are too much for me to handle (no microsd slot, terrible camera, etc).
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lol sorry stratax, I was refering to the galaxy nexus with the whole camera comment, I've been really letting my cell phone knowledge slip there after getting the amaze so other than the bare basics I really havent looked into the One series all that heavily, and i thought the one s only had the aluminium shell that was hardened with some sort of high voltage process
and I'm not saying that megapixels aren't all that important, I'm saying there are other factors that contribute to how good a camera sensor is, compare the same photo across all kinds of phones with the same number of megapixels and you'll see a clear difference in the quality is all I'm saying
that nokia phone is rediculous though
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oh I was about to say hahah. no, on one CES coverage someone stated that it will come in both polycarbonate and anodized aluminum. still, I would take the IPS SLCD 2 over super amoled pentile ANYDAY
yeah, the sensor is one of the most important things if you have a decent number of pixels. if you had a badass sensor with a vga camera it would look a bit funny lol. speaking of which, the galaxy nexus has crap mp count and sensor xD fail flagship device imo
edit: the most I would pay for the galaxy nexus is 300 and that would never happen lol

ive owned both the amaze and htc evo 4g lte
i notice no difference in picture quality. they both take great pictures

Owned both the Galaxy Nexus & the Amaze. They are both nice phones. However, the Amaze is just a great phone. I do have my complaints such as the battery and the fact that I am on my 4th Amaze (2 would not charge/overheating problem straight out of box, 3rd lost).
The Amaze has got to be one of the most underrated phones I know about.
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I have both the Amaze and the Nexus. Unless Samsung changes how they manufacture their phones, I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
I had my Nexus for about a month when It started exhibiting the famous charging issue. I sent it in for warranty repair (ha), and got it back three weeks later with a note that it had suffered water damage, and therefore my warranty was void. Considering the fact that the phone was never wet, this had to be a bogus claim. I tried correcting this to no avail - it's obvious that Samsung doesn't stand behind their products.
I was able to pick up an Amaze for $69 through Target, and I'm glad I'm back with HTC. The build of the phone is so much better than either the Nexus or the GS II that I have owned, and the camera is the best camera I've seen in a smartphone.
The only negative I have regarding the Amaze is Sense - I would love a stable vanilla ROM that has everything working....
But I digress - I would not recommend going from the Amaze to the Nexus to anyone.

Note VS. HTC One X AT&T

I'm really leaning towards the AT&T Galaxy Note but I am somewhat swayed by the HTC One X. Leaning more towards the Note because of the development and SD card. I just love Samsung phones and have had bad experiences with HTC phones. But the one thing keeping me from the Galaxy Note is the horrible S3 processor. Its to bad we didn't get the Qualcomm S4 chip like the ONE X got.
HTC One X Pros:
-Great Design
-Awesome screen
-S4 Chip
Cons:
-Locked Bootloader (kind of a newbie at rooting but have been successful flashing roms with the i777, and skyrocket)
-16GB internal and THAT'S IT
-Horrible at multitasking (pretty much a deal breaker)
-Many report defects with the phone: screen issues, loose buttons, dust in screen
G-NOTE Pros:
Development support (Tons of ICS roms)
Very easy to root and flash rom
Love the form factor
Spacious
SD-Card
Cons:
Processor, while faster than the Exynos chip, its still out performed
Think I answered my own question, but would love to hear some thoughts on those who have been using the Note now for a couple months. I HATE LAG and read the Note suffers from this, but I plan on flashing Saurom.

Let me attempt to help you out.
I had the onx x first and exchanged it for about 5 times for defects. Good luck getting a perfect one.
screen is better quality on one x. But the note is almost as good with bigger size.
I'm done with the one x. Happy with the note since switch.
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You pretty much said it yourself the not e is totally the way too go. I considered going to the X when it first came out but with all the little problems it seems to have and me loving everything about my Note i see no reason to get it.

I guess I've had two devices without lag or I just don't know what lag is. I guess that click an icon to and it takes half a second on occasion to do that action is lag but I'm just not that impatient.
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If you were even considering the One X why not wait for the S3? It is very comparable in size to the X. The only real difference I see is a little bit of real estate and a pen.
I am seriously looking at the S3 as a backup phone to my Note. I can't see it replacing the Note though.

This is like comparing apples to oranges...
Unless you are buying international, the one x will not be quad. Since you mentioned att I'm assuming you want an att phone, might be wrong here.
IMO note wins, love it.
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The GNote is a great phone, which has been remarkably bug free for the most part. I am also going to pick up a SGSIII after launch. I just sold my skyrocket to make room for the SGSIII. I never even considered the HOX.
I like to switch out periodically.
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With an ICS ROM there is no lag on the Note that I can tell. You would be sorry real quick with the limited storage and locked bootloader. The Note's processor has never been an issue to me. While not as "good" as the Exynos, still a quality chip with LTE support. Note is a great phone. I've owned it since day one.

I have an upgrade available and I was thinking about getting the HOX ---
but I think Im gonna wait for the S3 or the next iPhone. The HOX and its lack of features (removeable battery, expandable storage, unlocked bootloader) makes me think its going to be another Atrix. All the balls but noone to play with it. (Although the Atrix has come a long way since it was released).

If you want, get the Note first. When the gs3 comes, get that and sell the Note. I am really spoiled by the Huge screen....I dont think I will switch anytime soon. Unless 「Note 2」
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke

You come on a note forum as ask which one we'd get? Lol.
The One-X has to many shortcomings which far overshadow the few good things about the device. I wouldn't even consider the device.
The S3 seems not special enough. My next device will probably be a note 2
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If I have to use this god forsaken iPhone another day I'm gonna EXPLODE!!!

If i were you i'd get the Htc one x, and share your experience with htc with us. I had it with htc, good design but lots of hardware issues. I had the titan, issue gallore.
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I think the fact you can buy two spare batteries for the note for 15$ is a pretty good argument haha
add to the fact that you can have 48+ gb's on the note
I don't see what good a camera with zero shutter lag is if your going to fill up the 9 gb's the user has available in absolutely no time.
After upgrading to ICS, I've experienced no lags or hiccups with the S3 processor

The Note is better than the One X, but i dont think it is better the SGSIII so the SGS3 will have to give me my new phone Fix till the Note2 drops.........Cant wait on both of these devices.

I purchased the One X the day it came out, upgrading from a galaxy s2. Had to take first one back because of a broken speaker. Kept the "good" one for a week then took it back and was going to wait for the sgs3... then out of the corner of my eye I caught a glimmer of sunlight shining off the Galaxy note.
I said meh and figured I'd keep it a couple weeks and wait for the 3. Surprised to say that I cancelled my pre-order on the sgs3 yesterday (had the phone about a week now).
Love the note, the development community is great and diverse (even coming from the vastly populated sgs2 community), and the accessory / upgrade options that the note has well established.
One X multi tasking finished it off for me, sense took way too much memory, battery life hurt, screen was great but I'm spoiled by the perfect contrast of the amoled since the sgs2 (I am in darker environments most often and the inverted screens are unbeatable on amoled). Locked boot loader will eventually be cracked but I don't want to support a company (at&t or htc) doing that anyways, so it made the decision that much easier.
I'm a big benchmarker myself, so seeing some of the scores on the note felt like a punch in the gut at first. But after loading cm9 and tweaking a bit I've got mine running great with no noticeable lag at all, which is less than I can say for my sgs2 on cm9 and especially the HOX (even without sense).
Go grab the hox play with it for a bit, you get 30 days return with at&t. But know that the processor isn't something you're going to hold and look at daily (like the feel of the phone, or the bad ass screen- both of which the note wins out on IMO) :beer:
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I hadn't even seen this thread until after I exchanged for an AT&T Note, but I got the AT&T HTC One X two weeks ago.
My summary of it was: ICS and the Hardware are nice, but coming from the SGS4G, I liked having an external sdcard.
Since the HOX bootloaders are locked and s-on, not really much rom development yet. I'm sure there will be awesome roms when they unlock.
So with that, I figured I'd keep my phone stock + root for a while and wait for unlocked bootloaders. But the software on the HOX is kinda flaky. I lost my job a few weeks ago and need phone calls from recruiters. The other day I got 5 emails stating that they tried calling me but no answer. That won't work for me.
So, Now I have a note

Processor isnt EVERYTHING!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke

I swap phones all the time. I am always curious about what is new.
That being said I am a huge fan of the note, but snagged a one x at launch.
Within the first hour, or the honeymoon phase, I was in love. The one x is well built, and is a snappy phone. However, with natural and practical use - the phone loses its luster with the multi tasking. While it may not seem like a big deal - imagine an app, or a web page re loading fresh at every view.
Also, imagine a phone with no sd slot, leaving you with no greater than 8gb storage for media once all of your apps were installed. The point of owning a smart phone is a one stop shop of a device - one that you can browse the web, listen to music, make calls, use apps etc. the point of a smartphone, for me at least is to NOT carry multiple devices for life's activies. I don't have an unlimited data plan, so te fact that I couldn't store my music on the phone was a deal breaker, since I use my phone at least 5 days a week for music.
Also, the gps performance was sub par. I can not confirm that this was or was not my particular unit- but if the phone wasn't under the window of my car it would quickly lose gps signal.
Note is one of the best phones I've used. The only downside is that it requires almost constant 2 handed use. Sure you may get away with some one handed action, but not while driving.
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Don't get me wrong - rhe one x feels and looks superb. The display is, although smaller, just as beautiful as the note's. However, after the initial "wow" factor wears off, You begin to feel like the onex was kinda pushed out the gate. It's poor memory management is assumed to be directly related to allocating system resources to making sure sense runs well and good - which it does.
My final point being - of you were to try a device for 30 days, I would test a note. There are some cool things happening almost daily now to keep you interested and also improving an already awesome device. Give htc some time to figure out their situation and figure out if they want REALLY sell their flagship device or not.

When I saw the Note I just feel in love with this device from the bigging and watch story on it on youtube and web and forums about other people posted about the device.
I did look into the HTC ONE X
I was so upset it didn't support SD Card that really turn me down on this device.
don't get me wrong both are wonderful devices and it's up to you what device you would like to have and do research on it before you buy it.

SGS3 looming

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...-wireless-and-us-cellular-services-starting-m
Is it wrong that I feel slightly compelled to return my EvoLTE (got a few days left in my 14) and get the SGS3? With a global launch of nearly identical phones (save for CDMA, frequencies, etc, S4 in the US), it is gonna be a hit phone. I really have very few issues with the EvoLTE besides the goofy multitasking button (for which I installed the mod).
I know the screen is technically inferior, but most who have used SGS3 seem to agree our eyes can't tell.
2GB RAM is REALLY compelling, and I think its going to have a kicking dev community, and no locked bootloader.
Please don't write me off as a troll. I'm not a hater, I like the EvoLTE. I'm just going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years, and feel under pressure to make the right choice.

ill keep my htc. i prefer sense over crappy touchwiz or whatever its called
but if you want it so bad you should get it ^_^

I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.

There are great devs here too. For me I'm keeping the Evo.
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Crap radios,weird looking (my opinion),poor build quality,touchwiz,GPS issues ,screenes not as good.I never have a problem with a gig of ram. I just think it isn't necessary... yet anyway.it's gonna be a beast for sure, just don't like Samsung...definitely a matter of opinion .I don't think there will be that much of a difference in performance.
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Horrible radios! i was getting half the speeds of what i do now, voice and data. Never going back to Samsuck
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Why is the SGSIII screen worse than the EVO 4g LTE?

As others have said radios are not good however I guess this will be the true test as far as radios seeing how they are using Qualcomm chip with radio built in... And then we will know if its just their crappy programming or something. Lol also the screen is up to you I have a gn basically same screen as sgsiii and its ok however the sgsiii is slightly better I guess cause of spacing?
Touchwiz isn't good imo and its the same look as it has been HTC at least reinvented the wheel this time around to.make it better in some ways. The extra 100 in batt will help some probably due to the screen. However I have seen many people say and or show up over on the LTE side from the og and other places.
2gigs of ram gimmick IMO I know some people say they have reloading issues when they hit home I haveny had that or anything... Not to mention the iPhone beat the sgsiii in a drop test I want to see EVO LTE in a drop test with it lol. So its all up to you keep man. And what you like better and if you want to bite down on a 35$ restock fee or 70$ restock fee if you.get the gsiii and decide you want EVO back lol.
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I'll be sticking with my LTEvo based on looks alone. The SG3 may beat out the LTE by a hair, but not by much if any. Ive been told the US version SG3 will have the same dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor as the LTE and the only thing it has on the LTE is the 2GB ram. Its a nice phone no doubt but the build quality on the LTE is simply amazing. Im happy with my LTE but im sure the SG3 will just as nice! Its great to have two awesome phones to choose from!

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I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations

After owning an EVO Shift then a Nexus S 4G I am sticking with the EVO. The feel of the phone is better and I believe HTC uses better internal parts. I never had reboots at all on my EVO Shift. I had reboots and screen of death frequently on my Nexus.
I also will never own another phone with a pentile screen, no matter what people say I can't see.

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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
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this.
I had the Epic 4G Touch since launch and even though I had no problems with the development, it was SLOW to start. it got root fast (that's to zedomax) but everything else came slowly, AOSP came 3-4 months or so after release, everything else was pretty much dominated by one or two devs/teams. Why? Because CDMA came later and is less popular than GSM, and which is global - the International version is GSM and the conversion of roms from GSM to CDMA is more difficult and time consuming than you would think. Rest assured there will be some devs as there always is with galaxy phones but you can't compare it to the amount there are with the International/GSM galaxy phones.
This phone, and however, blew me away with what we have thus far. Why? Because there isn't a "GSM" version to suck most of the great devs away from our development. it's got the best starting development out of all the Sprint devices I've seen(next to the OG EVO, and of course)
Several of the gimmicky features of the S3 are apks that have been leaked already (posted s voice and floating video player in themes&apps section). that said, I there isn't really anything that makes the S3 unique except the 2 gb ram and the HD pentile screen (debatable)

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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much.
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
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Actually, Epic Touch had very good developer support.
The samoled hd screen is indeed inferior.
Samsung phones definitely have better build quality, but they are made of plastic, so it's a wash.
Epic Touch had good support from Samsung.
Touchwiz is actually a much better skin than Sense. Especially sense 4, which is a bloatware and a resource hog. One thing you can expect from GS3 for Sprint is that it's going to have stellar software, where everything is hardware accelerated to the max and buttery smooth and fast.
I'm probably gonna keep the evo cause I hate the look of the gs3, but I'm also hoping that we can steal some of their software.

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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
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I doubt people are going to move from the ET4G, which is less than a year old, to the GS3. I am sure some of themore hard core crowd will but most people are under a contract or are quite happy with their phone. The reason a lot of people are moving to the new EVO is because they were on contract with the OG EVO or are using their last yearly upgrade from the 3D.

The Dev's alone will keep me from keeping my EVO. They made me like my 3D even when I had buyers remorse over the S2. They almost made me not have to buy this phone, thanks to the ONE s Rom. I'm also liking what I'm seeing so far, even though the phone has only been out for a week.
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Screen : research pentile , you'll see people viewing it under a microscope with some criticisms. Shrug.
Development community.. With sprints phone being more or less identical to verizons, I think it'll be at least as good. But for me, I just want a stable cm9, which really only takes a couple good devs. And both phones will have that, so I'll concede a wash.
Gps and radios, good points. Certainly one of the reasons I chose htc after my og epic. But maybe just maybe they got it figured out?
When picking a phone for 2 years, specs are key for me. Think about your computer: twice the ram is significant. Particularly considering the multitasking issues I too have experienced on this phone. Almost no apps truly save their state when you go away from them for a few min. And we'll be hoping both android 5 and 6 go on these generation phones (via Cyanogen probably) so more ram may be significant at that time.
Didn't have any issues with my epic build quality, came to appreciate the plastic even.
Also- isn't the gpu better, or will it be the same as evo in the us models?
Argh

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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Yes, that epic touch was built like a tank.

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One more thing. Will Samsung ever make a phone that has a working GPS? I'm still waiting for my girlfriend's GS2 find a "GPS signal"
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[Q] Advice Needed: Rooted Note or SGS3

I am still within the window of returning my G Note (which i love except for a few things) and possibly getting a SGS3.
I really like the GNote and the massive screen, the extra real state is really nice! I am on AT&T and really like the idea of the HSPA network backup to the not yet present LTE here in South Florida. I am getting avg between 4-6 mbps DL.
NOTE (AT&T):
Likes:
* HSPA Network on AT&T
* Screen Size
* S-Pen (I actually use the thing)
Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
* No OC on ICS (might be wrong here)
* Potential for less Dev support once SGS3 comes out.
SGS3 (VZW):
Likes:
* Camera...I have toddler at home and a quick camera would be great (this is my biggest factor for considering this phone)
* Power...this things seems like a beast!!!
* form factor
* ICS, although I am not as concerned about software bcs it's a matter of porting by one these great devs in XDA.
Dislike:
* Smaller Screen
* Slow 3G speeds when not on LTE area about 50% of time!
Any thoughts that might help me rationalize this decision is greatly appreciate it!
Thank you!

Crey23 said:
Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
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Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.

davaj said:
Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.
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No, it's not limited to Launchers, but they do affect normal navigation. I had ran GO, ADW EX, and Holo....and Holo being the "fastest". I just installed Go Ex and it's really fast. I think it more to do with one the widgets that I was running.
But lag can be seen while unlocking, but I hear that the SGS3 is the same...something to do with deep sleep that Samsung uses. It can also be seen while playing some games like Angry Birds. It ran kind of choppy on my old htc Vision(G2) Oc'd @ 1.2 Ghz, but the Note sometimes shows that choppiness too.
One thing that also concerns me is that the RAM is ually running at 65%-75% capacity anyone else?

I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3. I sold my international note for the one x and didn't like that phone so I would probably regret trading for the gs3 as well. Once you get used to the screen on the note its hard to downgrade. Believe me when I say that the note's screen looks way better than the one x, even the guy at Walmart's at&t store agreed with me. Hopefully when we get a kernel source it will speed up our notes, although my note isn't that bad now.
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First and foremost determine what you need in a phone, do you need the Horsepower of a quad core? Most apps aren't designed to work with the quad cores and I would believe that the support of them in ICS is kind of like windows, yes they will use them, but will it use them effectively? Do you want the screen or the camera more? I know for my needs I prefer the screen and the camera is plenty quick enough for what I do, but I don't have kids. As for lag, if it's really that bad, I'd exchange it for another. I only saw lag on my phone after I had launched 20 or 25 apps, running tons of widgets and hadn't shut my phone down in 3 weeks.
So in the end, the trade off is what will you utilize more and what would be best for you. I for one wouldn't trade my note for anything, but again I came from a streak and make full use of my very large screen and not the camera so much. Not to mention, you could wait to get the S3, get it, and in a year they'll probably release a phone that has 3.2GHz quad cores with brand new LTE system that's 10x faster than what we have now.
Technology has always grown faster than we can keep up with, the real question is, how long will you wait to get the latest and greatest? That's the reason why I haven't upgraded my home PC. There's always a new CPU coming out with a new form factor, or the next best graphics card is going to be released in a month or two. My current logic with it now is, hey it works, it works well, I'll keep it until it doesn't suit my needs anymore.
Just my thoughts on it.

Apex launcher is the best launcher for the note no lag on my end. I couldn't see myself going to a smaller screen. My hands fit the phone perfect.
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I will share my views with my days with the ATT Note. If you are running stock ROM..it was a HORRIBLE experience. I had my Captivate at the time and it was super smooth compared to the ATT Note stock.
If you are cool changing ROMS, which I think you are since you are here, I would expect it to be a lot better.
As for the dev on the ATT one dying after the GS3 comes out...well , unless you are buying an international GS3, I wont expect the dev for it to be that huge either compared to the international version but this is just a guess.

davaj said:
If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
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this.

lyall29 said:
I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3....
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This is exactly my concern.....Yes it might be all that, as the hox was when it came out, but after I played with it for a bit I was not convinced and actually opted for the GNote instead despite the additional $70 that it cost me.
I guess I like to be a s bleeding edge as possible, being that at the speed of industry... in two years, by the time my contract is over, there will be 6.8Ghz eight core, 0.5 TB solid state drive phones with 21MP cameras that wipe my butt too.... But reality is that it might be overkill.
The other thing that attracts me to the SGS# is that finally an Android phone will have as many accessories as an iPhone given the number of pre-sales, and the fact that it will be the flag-ship device for the 5 major carriers in the US/Canada. I am tired of walking into a best buy and see 90 different cases for the iPhone and, if I'm lucky, finding the $hitty Speck case for my Note lol.
Lastly, my other concer is that in order to get the SGS3 I would have to go from AT&T to VZW, and I am not convinced at all of going from lightning fast VZW LTE to crawling speed 3g EV-DO signal. It is reliable in the area, but LTE does not reach 50% of my territory.
I guess I'm going to keep the GNote, root it and wait for a kernel to break 2.0 Ghz blazing fast phone. I have read a few reviews that measure web processing throughput and the Note beats the SGS3 in the benchmark. Also some of the ROMs available have been tweaked to improve DL perfromance quite drastically.
The camera is pretty snappy too....It seems to take long, but when the picture is revealed it look amazing!

Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.

I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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littlewierdo said:
Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.
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Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
lyall29 said:
I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!

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Well I bit the bullet..... I switched to VZW. Specs wise the sgs3 seems to be superior, but push come to shove, a $35 a month savings with unlimited voice and text and 4gb gigs once the new pricing plans kick in at the end of the month.
I will miss the huge screen and te s- pen. And I might regret it, but I had to do it from a logical perspective.
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Crey23 said:
Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!
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Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).

I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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littlewierdo said:
Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).
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Yeah I hear ya.....I have seen multiple videos on the the SGS3 and it seems like an incredibly fluid device. I have to say the screen real state i will miss, but since I am returning my Note today, and will get the SGS3 in early July I am back on an Blackberry Pearl 8130...the screen size is about 1/4 of the Note's....maybe less LOL. So I think by the time i get the G3 it will seem like a huge screen!
I will miss the S-Pen....I did use it quite a bit. I stopped taking my notebook to meetings bcs all I needed was my note.
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I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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You are right in the sence that many phones just need to be optimized in order to get them smooth. I did that with my htc Vision/G2 once I rooted, swaped kernels, flashed a "few" ROM's including ICS and had it OC'd to nearly 2x it's rated processor speed. BUT, and you know a but was coming....
There is something to be said of the posibilities of a device being launched nearly simultaneously on all 5 major carriers in the US...no other device has ever done that (at least under the same name, and never in so close proximity of one from the other).
The other thing impressive about the G3 is the hardware, it's got 2GB of ram, and incredible camera, a very good processor (though not the latest), and note like beautiful screen. For me the camera alone draws my attention, and the fact that the spec are as close to bleeding edge as we can get in a production device, makes me pretty happy to know that I can pull of 2 years of no upgrades.
In fact, when I purchased the htc G2 on T-Mobile nearly 2 yrs ago, it was the only phone on 4G network, and it was the best phone out there for a while, and I found no reason to envy any other devices. I switched from it bcs I got tired of the poor data strength of T-mobile in my area, and the fact that sitting at my office, getting signal was a hit/miss situation, but the device itself it's still kicking....it's my toddler's mini tablet at the moment.

littlewierdo said:
my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone.
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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..

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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..
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Ive seen it first hand (the international version). The screen is probably the biggest thing about the SG3, its a better quality screen than the Note.
Samsung has NAILED every phone. Would people be buying it otherwise? Look at the world wide sales, look at the tech reviews, there is hardly anything negative to say about it.
In fact, the only negative is that it doesnt have the latest processor, big whoop in my opinion. Oh, and maybe touchwiz, but touchwiz is decent now, nothing like the pile of poo it was on the Captivate.

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