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I'm still waiting for an order of the TF201 to actually go through for me and now I'm beginning to wonder if that’s a sign. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is now stuck in the uncomfortable situation of decided whether to continue trying to get the TF201 or to suck it up and wait a few months for the new Prime to come out.
Asus is trying to market the TF700T as some sort of Transformer Prime HD, but, due to the TF201's issues, this looks like a "quick fix" model leaving the early adopters of the Prime behind. I've noticed some arguments going for both sides and I was wondering if anyone had a clear argument for waiting.
Not a lot of information is out there right now, but to me the argument is as follows:
Is paying $100 more and waiting ~5 months worth better GPS/WIFI/BT, Resolution, & front-facing camera?
I would appreciate any input from current TF201 users.
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I'm still waiting for an order of the TF201 to actually go through for me and now I'm beginning to wonder if that’s a sign. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is now stuck in the uncomfortable situation of decided whether to continue trying to get the TF201 or to suck it up and wait a few months for the new Prime to come out.
Asus is trying to market the TF700T as some sort of Transformer Prime HD, but, due to the TF201's issues, this looks like a "quick fix" model leaving the early adopters of the Prime behind. I've noticed some arguments going for both sides and I was wondering if anyone had a clear argument for waiting.
Not a lot of information is out there right now, but to me the argument is as follows:
Is paying $100 more and waiting ~5 months worth better GPS/WIFI/BT, Resolution, & front-facing camera?
I would appreciate any input from current TF201 users.
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I am in the camp where I do think this TF700T is a bug fix release. I do not care for the higher resolution screen which may introduce other unknown issues. The current Prime is an excellent tablet. The only issue for me is knowing there is a design defect with the back plate. I may never use GPS but I do not know what I will be do in the future and that is what pisses me off. You will need to decide if that is a big deal for you or not.
So, I got my prime today from amazon. Then i noticed the tf700t post. I should be pissed but I'm enjoying my prime too much. And I don't know the specs of the tf700t yet. If its a tegra3 with 1920x1200 then its worth it.
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Tracks3 said:
I'm still waiting for an order of the TF201 to actually go through for me and now I'm beginning to wonder if that’s a sign. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is now stuck in the uncomfortable situation of decided whether to continue trying to get the TF201 or to suck it up and wait a few months for the new Prime to come out.
Asus is trying to market the TF700T as some sort of Transformer Prime HD, but, due to the TF201's issues, this looks like a "quick fix" model leaving the early adopters of the Prime behind. I've noticed some arguments going for both sides and I was wondering if anyone had a clear argument for waiting.
Not a lot of information is out there right now, but to me the argument is as follows:
Is paying $100 more and waiting ~5 months worth better GPS/WIFI/BT, Resolution, & front-facing camera?
I would appreciate any input from current TF201 users.
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Well i currently own the prime and its awsome I would rather have my prime then wait over 6 months for the next one just to get basically a better screen resolution. The screen on the prime is already very crisp and clear and you probably wont notice that much of a diffrence between this screen and the new ones screen. As for gps, its really over rated because you really arent going to be using it al all. Wifi and BT preformance is pretty good on the prime. So basically your paying 100$ more and waiting at least 5-6 months for GPS and a higher res display
Well judging by the many faults I'm finding with the TF201, I think I had my fill of going on hype buys from ASUS.
Show me ICS and I'm done.
Unless you really want that higher res display and you actually are going to use the GPS, I would just get the current Prime. By the time the TF700T launches, there will probably be faster quad cores
Five months in the tech world is not "waiting", it's a generational change.
Should I buy (insert any product here) now or wait 5 months for (next generation product) has been the same question since the first Macintosh came out, it seems.
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I'm still waiting for an order of the TF201 to actually go through for me and now I'm beginning to wonder if that’s a sign. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is now stuck in the uncomfortable situation of decided whether to continue trying to get the TF201 or to suck it up and wait a few months for the new Prime to come out.
Asus is trying to market the TF700T as some sort of Transformer Prime HD, but, due to the TF201's issues, this looks like a "quick fix" model leaving the early adopters of the Prime behind. I've noticed some arguments going for both sides and I was wondering if anyone had a clear argument for waiting.
Not a lot of information is out there right now, but to me the argument is as follows:
Is paying $100 more and waiting ~5 months worth better GPS/WIFI/BT, Resolution, & front-facing camera?
I would appreciate any input from current TF201 users.
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A) where u gonna get a old prime from now?
B) Why would you even get a broken, poorly supported product
and C) (opinion) be patient and get a good tablet..
Hell at this Rate the Lenovo Pad is looking better than this crap
seven2099 said:
A) where u gonna get a old prime from now?
B) Why would you even get a broken, poorly supported product
and C) (opinion) be patient and get a good tablet..
Hell at this Rate the Lenovo Pad is looking better than this crap
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I take you don't have a Prime and you have been overly influenced by the issue discussion that ignores the 95% of happy users. Love my PRIME!
Grab that Lenovo!
I have and love my Prime and I am getting the keyboard dock in the mail tomorrow. Am I upset about todays announcement? Not at all. Everyone that is *****ing needs to get over themselves. ASUS runs a business and if you think the tech you purchase today isn't outdated two weeks later, you are surely misinformed. Relax!!
I am going to enjoy my prime and dock for the next 4 to 5 months and then sell the TF201 and upgrade when it comes out in Q2. The dock is said to work on both models.
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colbyb25 said:
I have and love my Prime and I am getting the keyboard dock in the mail tomorrow. Am I upset about todays announcement? Not at all. Everyone that is *****ing needs to get over themselves. ASUS runs a business and if you think the tech you purchase today isn't outdated two weeks later, you are surely misinformed. Relax!!
I am going to enjoy my prime and dock for the next 4 to 5 months and then sell the TF201 and upgrade when it comes out in Q2. The dock is said to work on both models.
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Ditto. My current Prime will just get happily handed on down the line come May/June when/if the new Prime comes out. Current order of succession in my family is Prime > Kindle Fire > Asus EP121 > iPad 1
Its a race you can never win, Im also not a prime owner yet, still waiting to hear that the primes sold are with normal wifi and without much problems[dont need the gps gonna get a galaxy nexus soon]. Can anyone recommend me a good supplier to order from with 95% that ill have a good wifi one? REALY REALY appriciate .
spending 100$ more just for screen... maybe on a fullHD TV but not on this..
Prime is still a great buy. Plus Thursday everyone gets free Ice Cream..yayyyy! I scream, you scream, We All scream for Ice Creaaaaam!
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Its a race you can never win, Im also not a prime owner yet, still waiting to hear that the primes sold are with normal wifi and without much problems[dont need the gps gonna get a galaxy nexus soon]. Can anyone recommend me a good supplier to order from with 95% that ill have a good wifi one? REALY REALY appriciate .
spending 100$ more just for screen... maybe on a fullHD TV but not on this..
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I don't think there's any "good supplier" because the defects are because of ASUS, not the stores. So I guess it just depends on whether you're lucky or not. I got a 32GB Grey from Best Buy that had absolutely no problem and now my 64GB Grey from NewEgg is also absolutely perfect. Besides 1 dead pixel that fixed itself after a couple of hours.
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Prime is still a great buy. Plus Thursday everyone gets free Ice Cream..yayyyy! I scream, you scream, We All scream for Ice Creaaaaam!
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Yeah... try tonight everyone gets ICS! 8 pm (PST)
everyone that is except me... still waiting on my 11/22 pre-order
vitalero said:
Its a race you can never win, Im also not a prime owner yet, still waiting to hear that the primes sold are with normal wifi and without much problems[dont need the gps gonna get a galaxy nexus soon]. Can anyone recommend me a good supplier to order from with 95% that ill have a good wifi one? REALY REALY appriciate .
spending 100$ more just for screen... maybe on a fullHD TV but not on this..
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I hear both Bestbuy and Office Depot recently had them in stock. I got my Prime on Dec. 23 from Gamestop and the keyboard dock from Bestbuy that arrives in the mail tomorrow.
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I say you wait for it so when it finally comes out you can asked yourself the same question about the TF700T cause the super duper optimus prime x3 gets announced. it's a endless cycle bud
If the 700 comes out 5 months from now, it will be absolutely clobbered. It packs specs to compete with January-March/April devices. 5+ months from now, even higher resolution, more RAM, A15 processors, and similar spec bumps will start coming out. The 700 has 3 months to come out before it's too little too late.
I ordered I Transformer Prime on 12/23, didn't receive nothing and now they're announcing the "new" prime??? I'd love to resist the urge the get "this" Prime and wait some more MONTHS, but i've waited nearly 2 month. Can't resist any longer.
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I ordered I Transformer Prime on 12/23, didn't receive nothing and now they're announcing the "new" prime??? I'd love to resist the urge the get "this" Prime and wait some more MONTHS, but i've waited nearly 2 month. Can't resist any longer.
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I know exactly where you're coming from, and after reading these posts, I have decided to stick with the TF201. Now I just have to hope that my OfficeDepot order doesn't get backordered again.
Is it just me or does anyone else think that ASUS knew about the GPS WiFi issues prior to release and just thought
You know what lets take a chance and release it anyway
My thoughts round this are more believable now the TF700 has been announced and physically shown.
How long does it take ASUS to build a fully finished and working TF700 ?
a week ?
a month ?
This has been on display at CES
Now the Prime has only been on sale worldwide for a few weeks
So why would they totally redesign the back of the TF700 if they weren't aware of any issues with the GPS / WiFi etc. with the Prime
Sounds fishy to me
If it aint broke why all of a sudden fix it !!
Does anyone else agree here or is it me just thinking about the whole fiasco too much.
Dean
(ex-Prime owner, returned due to pretty pointless feature of GPS on prime that I paid for but didn't receive)
Again, not everyone has a wifi problem. For instance, my wifi works great.
Again, the TF700 is a different product aimed at people who want the best. It's their high-end model. The TF201 is the middle of the road and cheaper for it.
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Again, not everyone has a wi fi problem. For instance, my wifi works great.
Again, the TF700 is a different product aimed at people who want the best. It's their high-end model. The TF201 is the middle of the road and cheaper for it.
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I can appreciate your comment on Just Wifi, but the GPS is pretty much an issue on all Primes (i.e No GPS without Wifi - pointless GPS solution)
But Why redesign the Beautiful Spun Aluminium Back from the Prime with a Plastic window on the new TF700 if they didn't think there was a problem with the Primes Design.
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I can appreciate your comment on Just Wifi, but the GPS is pretty much an issue on all Primes (i.e No GPS without Wifi - pointless GPS solution)
But Why redesign the Beautiful Spun Aluminium Back from the Prime with a Plastic window on the new TF700 if they didn't think there was a problem with the Primes Design.
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The OG prime was highlighted for wifi problems back in November which would allow more than enough time to make one prototype.
Agreed
So don't you think ASUS would have held off releasing the prime being as they probably knew what they were letting themselves in for
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Everyone has the same issue, not everyone notices or or has the same wifi situation. We're talking about physics. Your prime doesn't alter the physical properties of aluminum.
Did they know? Absolutely. Did they gamble on early adopters? You bet.
The proof should be either in the driver configs on our primes or in the fcc certification application.
You'll find it.
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jptech said:
Everyone has the same issue, not everyone notices or or has the same wifi situation. We're talking about physics. Your prime doesn't alter the physical properties of aluminum.
Did they know? Absolutely. Did they gamble on early adopters? You bet.
The proof should be either in the driver configs on our primes or in the fcc certification application.
You'll find it.
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Well said.
I just think we have been cheated by asus
Removing the spec from the website mid ship
To stop new buyers from having the right to complain
And to rub salt in bringing a new fixed prime out so soon
I could accept that after a few months
But hell they haven't even fulfilled this order yet!
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Do you think ASUS knew about the GPS WiFi issues prior to release?
100% for sure
jester27 said:
Is it just me or does anyone else think that ASUS knew about the GPS WiFi issues prior to release and just thought
You know what lets take a chance and release it anyway
My thoughts round this are more believable now the TF700 has been announced and physically shown.
How long does it take ASUS to build a fully finished and working TF700 ?
a week ?
a month ?
This has been on display at CES
Now the Prime has only been on sale worldwide for a few weeks
So why would they totally redesign the back of the TF700 if they weren't aware of any issues with the GPS / WiFi etc. with the Prime
Sounds fishy to me
If it aint broke why all of a sudden fix it !!
Does anyone else agree here or is it me just thinking about the whole fiasco too much.
Dean
(ex-Prime owner, returned due to pretty pointless feature of GPS on prime that I paid for but didn't receive)
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Yes they knew about it and yes they shipped them out anyway just like any business they just want to make money and took their chances I don't know how well it's paying off for them.
Non-conspiracy theory reason for different backplate: 3G version planned, which requires an RF window.
My HTC Desire HD is pure Aluminum back and inside a case mate tough case never had any problems with GPS that Fasterfix from the market didn't fix. I am rooted on my Prime now on ICS with Prime Time just got my Prime today as well so haven't properly tested GPS. If any issues I will be trying out Fasterfix and setting it on UK pool as that's my location and seeing if it improves in any way.
Might be worth others giving Fasterfix a go too if your rooted.
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The DHD doesent hade å solid aluminium back in got three plastic pieces for the antennas the GPS antenna is located under the led flash
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ASUS certainly knew about the problem and went ahead anyway. Many posters here explain why; "my $500+ plus tablet does not function the way I expected it to but it's still awesome and I didn't need those features I paid handsomely for anyway...and so on and so forth". Too many rationlizations for a subpar device.
It's even more scary to think ASUS DIDN'T know about the problem. If that's the case they need to get out of the business.
Maybe not before release but for sure before they told us about it. It is clear from the new uglier, more functional design of the 1080p tablet they announced and apparently have built.
I still want to see a gps test with the back removed before making a final judgement on Asus statement about it.
Im getting an instant GPS fix with Fasterfix.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Im getting an instant GPS fix with Fasterfix.
That's an AGPS application that uses wifi to help isn't it? Won't help you without wifi I think.
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That uses AGPS does it not?
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The prime.behaves pretty normal GPS wise. IMHO. I don't have one yet but every device with agps has some problems when not connected to wifi/3g. Its the same with my dhd when i don't have a signal. But phones usually have a signal to assist GPS.
Most wifi only devices don't have GPS at all because of that. I think its cool asus put it in anyway. If you didn't knew that before the purchase and are unhappy because of that return in it. What's the big deal?
They knew but GPS was not their primary design goal! If you want that functionality use your phone or buy a standalone GPS! The ipad 2 wifi model doesn't have GPS either!
There goal was to give you a slim light tablet and be the first to the market with a quad core! With an exceptional battery life! (GPS slaughters battery life BTW!)
Remember you get to chose 2 good cheap or fast!
Asus seems to have chosen cheap+ fast!
Apple on all their products chooses good twice as their products come out almost 6-12 months after other. Equvilant products but they do not have issues at all! But you pay up the butt for them!
But remember its better to buy something that does one task perfectly (a garmin) then buy something that does multiple tasks well (the prime!) stop *****ing!
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Wordlywisewiz said:
They knew but GPS was not their primary design goal! If you want that functionality use your phone or buy a standalone GPS! The ipad 2 wifi model doesn't have GPS either!
There goal was to give you a slim light tablet and be the first to the market with a quad core! With an exceptional battery life! (GPS slaughters battery life BTW!)
Remember you get to chose 2 good cheap or fast!
Asus seems to have chosen cheap+ fast!
Apple on all their products chooses good twice as their products come out almost 6-12 months after other. Equvilant products but they do not have issues at all! But you pay up the butt for them!
But remember its better to buy something that does one task perfectly (a garmin) then buy something that does multiple tasks well (the prime!) stop *****ing!
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And what do you have to say about the poor WiFi performance? Was that also not a "primary design goal" for their WiFi only tablet?
The original transformer, which I owned, did quite well with GPS. I don't know why we take a mistake from ASUS, giving us less functionality than the earlier model, so lightly. The idea that a manufacturer can toy with the spec's of a product AFTER they start selling it and not get called out for it is a dangerous precedent.
So I've been patiently waiting for income tax money to get a new tablet, been reading a lot between the tf101 and the tf201 and I want a tablet that will have good development, I know the prime is too new and it has his fair share of issues including wifi and GPS, I can care less about GPS but I need wifi so as long as I can get a decent wifi signal so I can seat in my couch or my bed and pickup my wifi I'll be good, now the light bleeding from what the videos I've seen on YouTube wouldn't be a big problem but I don't know if I would be able to deal with dead pixels, now to my question , is there anyone that upgraded to the prime from the transformer and do you feel like it was a mayor upgrade or do you think the original is still a mayor contender? Is a $100 difference so is not that much of a difference in price, but from reading how Asus might have released it prematurely makes me wonder if I should go for the older more stable with more development transformer tf101.
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The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
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The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
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Thanks for the reply! I'm probably getting it and if those are my only issues(wifi/GPS) then everything will be great, just hope the development here will grow soon and increase the choices of roms and stuff.
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i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
1SiK1500 said:
i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
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the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
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I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
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Spidey01 said:
I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
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I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
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While some say GPS is no big deal, look at the amount of whining about it. I want it for alot of reasons. It automatically updates weather to the location, etc.
I purchased mine Less than two weeks ago from Best Buy. I have NO GPS at all. mine is a BCOKAS134452 serial number. My wifi isnt that bad actualy but i feel it is lacking when compared to my rooted nook color. I will try to open mine tonight and make one mod to see if it improves, if not, it goes back tomorrow.
Im not going to exchange it. Im going to return it receive my FULL refund. Then Re-purchase another unit so i have ANOTHER 2 weeks, incase there are issues.
While some may not find this right. I have noticed some people have major issues 3 or 4 weeks after purchase. That is what worries me. Just my .02$
Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
demandarin said:
Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
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Thanks it looks like there's a lot of people very happy with theirs in that thread, definitely looking forward to having one.
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roloracer said:
I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
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IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
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IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
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Thanks for your input, I had originally thought about the tf101 because of how good is said to be for the price, but I changed my mind thanks to all of you guys and also from browsing thru the positive thread, I'm definitely getting the prime, can't wait for the income tax money to get here, it should be about another week.
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Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
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jassari said:
Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
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+1....ATP RULES...see decline prices on ipad 2, no match for ATP.
roloracer said:
So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
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Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
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Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
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Totally agree. You can doo eeet!
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roloracer said:
the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
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I read an article stating that less than 5% of extended warranties are ever used. Something to think about.
GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
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GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
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That's why I said in OP that I could care less about GPS working, but wifi is a big thing for me.
My money came into my account yesterday, not sure but I might pick one up from best buy, play with it and decide what to do before the 14 day return period ends.
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I know the Acer A510 has a slightly better (prime comparable) tegra 3 but I don't feel like theres that big of a performance gap. I know that the Acer is $50 more but forgetting about the price, what would you guys recommend considering your past experiences with Asus? Btw the Wifi and Gps issues seem to be fixed according to Anandtech in this version.
Advantage TF300t = screen
Advantage A510 = battery
Thanks in advance and sorry if this post upsets some.
I was playing with the TF300 last week, it is nice but the screen is a lot darker compared to the TF201. I have had some problems with my TF201 that should not happen to a 2 month old tablet that has been taken well care of. And hearing the RMA horror stories on this board and others, I am starting to loose faith in Asus
slap88 said:
I was playing with the TF300 last week, it is nice but the screen is a lot darker compared to the TF201. I have had some problems with my TF201 that should not happen to a 2 month old tablet that has been taken well care of. And hearing the RMA horror stories on this board and others, I am starting to loose faith in Asus
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yea but it seems to me that Asus has been trying to fix issues and keep customers happy. What problems after 2 months are you referring to?
aamir123 said:
I know the Acer A510 has a slightly better (prime comparable) tegra 3 but I don't feel like theres that big of a performance gap. I know that the Acer is $50 more but forgetting about the price, what would you guys recommend considering your past experiences with Asus? Btw the Wifi and Gps issues seem to be fixed according to Anandtech in this version.
Advantage TF300t = screen
Advantage A510 = battery
Thanks in advance and sorry if this post upsets some.
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How can you ask this question when ln we don't own the tf300
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aamir123 said:
I know the Acer A510 has a slightly better (prime comparable) tegra 3 but I don't feel like theres that big of a performance gap. I know that the Acer is $50 more but forgetting about the price, what would you guys recommend considering your past experiences with Asus? Btw the Wifi and Gps issues seem to be fixed according to Anandtech in this version.
Advantage TF300t = screen
Advantage A510 = battery
Thanks in advance and sorry if this post upsets some.
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Tegras are all the same, the clock speed, easily changeable, is different.
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Here is a Acer A510 vs Asus Prime review.
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=42524
For me I'm staying with an Asus product. I like a more bleeding edge product and Asus is in the process of developing a closer relationship with Google.
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yea but it seems to me that Asus has been trying to fix issues and keep customers happy. What problems after 2 months are you referring to?
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I got those spots on the screen called LCD mura which seems to be very common with the Transformer Prime. I had a problem with the micro sd card slot, another very common problem and the docking port connector broke and the pins bent back. Fortunately Asus fixed it all under waranty
texstar said:
Here is a Acer A510 vs Asus Prime review.
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=42524
For me I'm staying with an Asus product. I like a more bleeding edge product and Asus is in the process of developing a closer relationship with Google.
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Very interesting but I'm still hesitating about what to choose. After reading the Acer A510 vs Asus Prime review, I will probably get an A510 but I need to investigate more.
Thanks again for the link.
Another A510 vs TF300 review:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-iconia-tab-a510-vs-asus-transformer-pad-300/
I still feel the great thing about the Transformer Series is the Dock. If I wouldnt need it i'd look for any other tablet with good battery life and a full size USB port. But i still feel like you cant get a better well rounded deal than the Prime (or the tf300 if you want to save some money or dont need the better features of the prime).
I love to use the Prime without the dock for browsing/reading/gaming and stuff but lf of the time the thing is docked, there are so many situations like this one right now, or when emailing, taking notes etc. Wouldnt wanna miss it.
I have since bought the Acer A510 and for any of those hanging in the balance, this is an amazing device. The only issue I and others have with it is that it gets a warm/hot in the lower right hand corner. Mine to me doesn't feel that bad and it only happens when pushing the tablet with games. I absolutely don't regret my decision. Today is the last day of my 14 day return period and I will not be returning this thing. I know Asus has very good support but to me it seems like they mess stuff up and then put updates out in order to fix their own mistakes. Imo they should test their updates more. But that doesn't make Asus bad at all. If anyone has any questions I'll answer them.
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I have since bought the Acer A510 and for any of those hanging in the balance, this is an amazing device. The only issue I and others have with it is that it gets a warm/hot in the lower right hand corner. Mine to me doesn't feel that bad and it only happens when pushing the tablet with games. I absolutely don't regret my decision. Today is the last day of my 14 day return period and I will not be returning this thing. I know Asus has very good support but to me it seems like they mess stuff up and then put updates out in order to fix their own mistakes. Imo they should test their updates more. But that doesn't make Asus bad at all. If anyone has any questions I'll answer them.
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thanks
1 what is your battery life, browsing internet with auto-britghness?
2 heat during games: can you hold in hand ???? what if you use a ps3 pad ( so you don't hold tha tablet...))
I'm potentially getting a used one today to replace my iPad. I'm moving from the apple ecosystem to android. Had an android phone now for a while and would rather have a tablet as well versus incomplete syncing of the two.
I last had an android tab in January and the app scene was very bad for tablets, and I read the prime had a lot of issues.
Did either resolve?
I'm getting it cheap, so I don't mind the infinity coming out and may switch to it later. But want to get a head start on moving my extensive ecosystem to google
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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Wow... Sadly I don't know an alternative non-7 inch android tablet...
I feel your pain, as I'm also interested in a 10" tablet with plenty of storage, and there are no great options at this point. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. Between the slow ass I/O issues that they obviously can't fix, the firmware releases that keep fixing one thing and breaking 3 others, the cheap parts used (search the forum for LCD mura), the poor design choices (good luck connecting to a far away Wifi signal), and the terrible support (read some of the horrible RMA stories here), I wouldn't touch another Asus product with a 10 foot pole.
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maybe the best will be to wait a lil bit more and see the TF700. But in any case, I really don't see the point of buying the Tf201 right now, with the 300 offering a very similar experience (imho there some quite recognisable slow downs overally speaking but it's still close enough for the price difference) for a cheaper price, and the Tf700 to be shipped in the following weeks. For those proficient in french, here is a test of the device
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/tablet...pad-infinity-tf700-avec-dock-p13514/test.html
and as far as the wifi goes, it's as smooth and stable as the 300 (if not better). So no matter how many software updates Asus is going to throw at us, it is highly unlikely that our beloved prime Tf201 (yes I still love the tablet even though it pisses me bigtime to have such a mediocre wifi connectivity) going to achieve that performance.
I would look into Samsung if i could do it again or Acer Iconia as a close second.
I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
I have two primes and one 300. I like them all. My unlocked prime with wookie ROM is the best. It is faster than my laptop. Why not buy a prime if your getting it for a good price?
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jjdevega said:
I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
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I generally agree with jj here.. I love my Prime. Yes, there's a few little quirks here and there, but nothing as world ending as some people would have you believe. Compared to the other devices on the market, I'd still go with this one if I had to again.
(Now, if a Nexus 10 comes out.. mmm.. bets might be off
As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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That and I just can't see anyone (in their right mind) that would post positive "complaints" on a developer/troubleshooting forum...
My $.02: I have it, it's OK. I would not buy one again. Basically when you buy a Prime keep in mind that you're buying an "almost ready for beta" product.
Bottom line: if you don't mind beta testing for ASUS (yes, 8 months later and we're still beta testing) then go for it!
If you're getting it for $300 or under then do it. Otherwise go for a Galaxy Tab.
Go for it! been loving mines since I got it in dec. not everyone has issues. jjdevega summed it up best.
I think you have to accept the mindset that you are going to have to tweak your Prime to get everything just right. Coming from an iPad this will be a different experience.
Personally I have experienced all the issues mentioned above on my Prime. I even RMA'd and refunded my 1st unit. However, I have been having a lot of fun applying the different tweaks and experimenting with what works best for my individual use case. I can tell you that my Prime is absolutely BLAZING right now - it is completely stable and performance is beyond my expectations.
I was pessimistic for a long time, but now I know I prefer having the options (because of an amazing developer community) to tinker and modify.
If this is appealing to you, the Prime is a great choice.
well , i think i have been top complainer on the prime. However i love this tablet.
its not perfect yet but i trust in asus that they start working on it now the google tablet is done.
some weeks ago i was really pessimistic but developers like wookie, motley baboo, ckhtml and more, and demandarin for his help with submitting issues, gave back hope.
and tbh, asus support has been great since tf101 however something went realy wrong with ICS on both devices , cant ignore that.
conclusion: for a good price i would buy it. buy with s/n c4 or higher.
keep calm and see what asus is offering in the future. their new devices is still kinda like in beta mode, endless problems waiting to be fixed. im not even sure nexus 7 is safe to use. best is hold ur horses and see what others review abt it.
the TF700T is supposed to come out next month at $499, which is what the prime sells for new right now. so I would keep this in mind when buying a used prime...
I have had my Prime since December and it has been fine. However right now I would recommend waiting until Mid-July and buying the TF Infinity. It will start at the same base price ($500) has a better screen and a plastic panel that should fix any wifi/gps problems people have had with the Prime. Plus it is compatible with practically all TF-Prime accessories including the keyboard dock.
Right now that is likely to be the best choice for a 10" Android tablet.
good read
If money isn't an concern, I would get a prime.
I as well moved from the IPAD. It's great for what I use it for, however my wife uses it as well.
I wanted her to have her own and so I started the search for another tablet that would suit the needs I have.
After roughly three months of research it came down to two things.
Either buying a Transformer Prime or TF300. Or waiting for the TF700 to hit in July.
Personally I've seen hi-res screens, unless your a graphics designer and your going to do EXTREME graphics rendering and modeling
(which at that point you should be using a PC or MAC desktop - my thoughts that is. )
then getting the Prime is the way to go. I got mine a few days ago, and it's done everything my IPad can do + some, no issues with Wifi - havent tested the GPS because I don't need it for that.
I've used several SD cards and again no issues what so ever.
The ONLY thing I will say in making your decision, is always get the bigger storage size, I have the 64gb and It's EXACTLY what I want / need!
nyijedi said:
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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i second this... i have had it with Asus. i was one of the first one to get Prime cause i love android. but Asus's ability to integrate the software is driving me crazy. and not to mention how they handled GPS issue... me personally are jumping ship back to ipad..... at least i won't get ANR everything 10mins.....
I'm also happy with the prime so far. My only concern about is that after months of daily using I really see a big advantage in the 7 inch form factor in many use cases. There was a great video interview with Matias Duarte on the verge about the design of the nexus 7 tablet two days ago or so and it nailed it on the head. So my next tablet will be the Nexus one, but I'll keep the prime as well.