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This does not sound very good if true. The Fascinate is only a good phone because of the developers. It sounds like Verizon may already know who we are (as in, those who have rooted) and may have evil intent planned.
I can not go back to Stock on this phone. 2.2 w/ voodoo is the way. 2.1 Stock, please say ain't so! (That is if Verizon doesn't choose to deactivate us first). I don't tether so maybe they are only targeting that crowd...
I think I will not upgrade until a phone comes out that doesn't require rooting or ROMing. May have to put up with some bloat, but the new phones don't need to be overclocked, and the Dual Core's (rooted or not) seem to have virtually no lag. Android provides much custom option even without root.
I really hope the Galaxy SII comes to Verizon. I have my doubts.
I'm straight up leaving any carrier that does this. I refuse to let a random company tell me that I cannot do what I want with a device that I bought, especially given the inherent open nature of Android.
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This is not going to be pretty. Anyone remember Napster? Ticketmaster?
I don't think there is any confirmed source for this that it is actually happening, just that it could happen along with the locked boot loaders to "protect" users.
This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen...
On Monday, the U.S Copyright Office ruled that jailbreaking an iPhone or other mobile device will no longer violate federal copyright law
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This was one of the headlines circulating last summer, and it is true. You can read more here.
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And as far as I know it is still legit to this date. So there is nothing any company can really do once the device is paid for. Now I don't know if this pertains to subsidized phones or corporate phones.
I would assume that doing this would be a HUGE violation by verizon and any carrier who participates. It is law that we are able to do what we want with our devices....for now.
Didn't they do this exact thing with the Moto Droid 1?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020494
Sounds like FUD to me. There is very little financial incentive for VZW to do this. Track yes, but do anything about, no.
VZW would quickly find that it's better to sell a unit for whatever reason than to lose a sale to another carrier/phone. (AOSP?)
Look at other embedded devices.
Linksys found it's better to just live with allowing 3rd party firmware than to fight it. They continue to offer a 'full' linux version of the WRT54G routers. Newegg even promotes it as being compatible with DD-WRT.
Since getting my android I don't keep up with media players but as far as I know, no providers are blocking RockBox. This is from 2006 but I still think shows how some companies embrace the value of 3rd party firmware:
"CNET reports that SanDisk is courting open source developers to port Rockbox to its popular MP3 players. SanDisk is currently the world's second most popular MP3 player manufacturer after Apple. Rockbox is an open source OS for most major MP3 players".
Carriers mostly get your money up front (and in your monthly usage bill). Not much financial incentive to stop how you use your phone. Ask yourself this. Why does VZW allow Google Maps if they offer VZ Navigator? Simple they sell more phones by including Google Maps than by 'forcing' you to use VZ Navigator.
Just my 0.02
Yeesh, I payed for the phone, and am paying for the data plan and all those other crappy fees. They better at least let me do what I want with the phone itself.
need to read this. from the guys at blackhat.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
if they shut off our service it will be legal. itll be in contracts. if you dont like them and wont sign them then you wont get service or whatever.
ugh.
what makes me mad is that devs and companies leak roms etc to us on purpose so we can test them better than they could in-house. pretty cheap testing if you ask me. then then fix things and release the offical updates.
just go after the bandwidth and warranty abusers.
I will not purchase another smart phone if this all comes to pass. I left the iPhone because of the draconian control the corporation exerted over *my* device, if Android goes the same way, I'll leave them too. I'd sooner drop back to a no-frills cell phone than to put up with a locked down and bloated to **** smartphone.
hasnt this battle already been won?? i mean with the Geohot situation last July that resulted in "jailbreaking" or modifying any mobile device being made legal? i dont think there is really anything they can do even if they do track us down and see who is rooted . mobile devices are safe im pretty sure . and hell , if Geohot comes through on this ps3 situation , gaming consoles will be too .
i suppose like the article says , they could deny us data ...maybe . but im pretty sure the law that was passed ... making it legal , would deny them the ability to punish us for doing something thats legal ..
i dunno , will be interesting to see how it plays out . if it does happen ... someone , somewhere , will find a way around it .
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This was one of the headlines circulating last summer, and it is true. You can read more here.
Clicky
And as far as I know it is still legit to this date. So there is nothing any company can really do once the device is paid for. Now I don't know if this pertains to subsidized phones or corporate phones.
I would assume that doing this would be a HUGE violation by verizon and any carrier who participates. It is law that we are able to do what we want with our devices....for now.
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iPhone's jailbreaking was never illegal even before the reassuring news press event. This has been covered by many different news.
However, it is the company's decision to go with whatever policy they want. Apple clearly stated that it is your decision to jailbreak your phone, but this will invalidate your warranty.
If Verizon starts cutting off rooted users, I will find a new carrier. They already rip us off with their pricing, but dictating how we use our phones? No way.
It isn't like anything illegal is being done with our phones. I root it to take off the **** that they put on. I rooted it because they won't hand over my 2.2 update. I root it so that I can customize it to my liking. A rooted phone is what Android is supposed to be like, not the crap that Verizon (or even Samsung) feeds us.
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This was one of the headlines circulating last summer, and it is true. You can read more here.
Clicky
And as far as I know it is still legit to this date. So there is nothing any company can really do once the device is paid for. Now I don't know if this pertains to subsidized phones or corporate phones.
I would assume that doing this would be a HUGE violation by verizon and any carrier who participates. It is law that we are able to do what we want with our devices....for now.
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yeah just so you know... it never was illegal. they just confirmed what we already knew.
I was in the ios scene for years before I came here, everybody made a big deal out of that bill but it didn't change anything at all really.
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hasnt this battle already been won?? i mean with the Geohot situation last July that resulted in "jailbreaking" or modifying any mobile device being made legal?
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Rooting/jailbreaking being legal wouldn't, in any way, stop carriers from deeming it a violation of the terms of service and denying access to the network.
The issue with Geohot was that Apple was trying to get the act of Jailbreaking considered a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and therefore, illegal. The courts concluded it wasn't, but the carriers can still draft any terms of service they like.
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If Verizon starts cutting off rooted users, I will find a new carrier. They already rip us off with their pricing, but dictating how we use our phones? No way.
It isn't like anything illegal is being done with our phones. I root it to take off the **** that they put on. I rooted it because they won't hand over my 2.2 update. I root it so that I can customize it to my liking. A rooted phone is what Android is supposed to be like, not the crap that Verizon (or even Samsung) feeds us.
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If they do go ahead with this it will be because of the largest data users being the ones most likely to flash a custom kernel that removes data throttling and enables free tethering. If 75% of the people who would be paying for tethering and use the most data aren't paying for the data/services then Verizon would see that as a huge loss of revenue and undue burden on the quality of their network.
Average Joe would view these users the same as P2P torrenting file sharers. Thieves. The term "root" will become synonymous with "bittorrent" even if you don't use it for mischevious practices. Both will be considered bad. You have to realize average Joe doesn't root or even understand it. The number of people who they are targeting is like 3% of Android users but they are probably using 20-30% or better of network resources. Its a win-win for Verizon. They lose relatively few customers and gain back a ton of network resources to sell to average Joe.
Bet your ass if its not already in your Verizon contract that using modified or unauthorized devices on the network being a breech of contract, that it will be added before you renew.
I have no issues with carriers tracking rooted users for the purpose of finding those that are tethering illegally (ie. without the proper data plan). However, if they start shutting off users that have rooted their devices just for the sake of rooting and cleaning them up or improving their functionality, that is over the line and I'm sure carriers such as MetroPCS and Cricket would love to see a nice new crowd of users come their way.
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I have no issues with carriers tracking rooted users for the purpose of finding those that are tethering illegally (ie. without the proper data plan). However, if they start shutting off users that have rooted their devices just for the sake of rooting and cleaning them up or improving their functionality, that is over the line and I'm sure carriers such as MetroPCS and Cricket would love to see a nice new crowd of users come their way.
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The bad part is, Verizon won't miss us. We are tiny. They stand to gain far more than they will lose.
One solution if they are tracking who took their ota update would be to odin to stock, receive update then just odin/flash back to super clean or whatever you use
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I purchased a phone from craigslist didn't know that t mobile had a imei system and didn't have t mobile service at the time bought the phone with case phone looked brand new etc i activate phones not working turns out bad imei.
The good news is that i have the text from seller and a tmobile rep told me that he is a tmobile customer i asked if he could check if the phone was purchased on the account to check if it matched up and he told me he couldn't give me anymore information anyone know how i should go about this situation with the police?
Nothing you can do except using the phone as an ipod.
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Probably not much u can do especially if he included the words "as is" anywhere in the post, but if he didn't you can probably go to your local police station and file a police report and take the guy to small claims court......I think anyway.......you might want to ask Binary he's a cop he would know better then me.
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Probably not much u can do especially if he included the words "as is" anywhere in the post, but if he didn't you can probably go to your local police station and file a police report and take the guy to small claims court......I think anyway.......you might want to ask Binary he's a cop he would know better then me.
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Well he can report it to his local police station but there's not much they can do. This is actually more of a civil action unless you can provide reasonable doubt that the seller is selling stolen merchandise. And if the post says "AS-IS" or anything similiar then you're SOL. You can try to contact Craigslist and report the seller for selling stolen merchandise. They might cooperate with you to take the seller to civil court.
That's about the best that you can do.
Good luck!
That's what you get for buying on craigslist. If it was ebay at least you would have been protected.
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Well he can report it to his local police station but there's not much they can do. This is actually more of a civil action unless you can provide reasonable doubt that the seller is selling stolen merchandise. And if the post says "AS-IS" or anything similiar then you're SOL. You can try to contact Craigslist and report the seller for selling stolen merchandise. They might cooperate with you to take the seller to civil court.
That's about the best that you can do.
Good luck!
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Thanks everyone who helped, Binary i know that normally with craigslist stuff if you get scammed its pretty much on you. But the guy told me he got the phone off a upgrade and decided to stick with his old phone therefore he is lying. I also know that the number he was using to do the business with is linked to t mobile which leaves his information for the police vulnerable. Luckily my mom works at a high school and i have access to a police officer. Since you're a police officer i was wondering if i had information showing that the phone he sold me is directly linked to his account and shows that he said the phone was stolen/lost i can report him to asurion insurance and get him in trouble for insurance fraud at least. The one thing i was wondering is if he would say i stole the phone from him but i have the box with unopened accessories and text showing we were meeting up etc.
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That's what you get for buying on craigslist. If it was ebay at least you would have been protected.
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I don't see how this is helping can keep the negative comments to yourself lol
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Thanks everyone who helped, Binary i know that normally with craigslist stuff if you get scammed its pretty much on you. But the guy told me he got the phone off a upgrade and decided to stick with his old phone therefore he is lying. I also know that the number he was using to do the business with is linked to t mobile which leaves his information for the police vulnerable. Luckily my mom works at a high school and i have access to a police officer. Since you're a police officer i was wondering if i had information showing that the phone he sold me is directly linked to his account and shows that he said the phone was stolen/lost i can report him to asurion insurance and get him in trouble for insurance fraud at least. The one thing i was wondering is if he would say i stole the phone from him but i have the box with unopened accessories and text showing we were meeting up etc.
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I'm actually thinking that did the insurance fraud thing. He likely called Asurian to tell them that he lost the phone and would like a replacement. Asurian then puts the IMEI on a black list so it can't be activated again since it was reported "Lost/Stolen" and shipped him another. He then sold it to you. Now without a Bill Of Sale it's all on you. If you have the text message then you have his number. Contact the seller directly and inform him. Best case scenario he did not actually with full intent attempt to sell you a stolen phone. He may be able to call Asurian and say that he had found the device and they might then be able to remove it from the black list. However they will probably want the replacement back. The most that you can really do is threaten him to call the police... but this is really a civil matter. Just because you have the box and phone number doesn't mean anything. Here's an example. If you were a criminal and robbed someone's house, took their tv, computer, jewelry, phone, box for phone, etc you can also take their identity since almost everyone has bills laying around. At least mail. So they can have your name, phone number, address, IMEI, original packaging... whole nine yards. Does that still prove that you know eachother? Can he still use that to prove that the sale was legit? No way. This is a civil matter and not so much criminal so you're not going to get much assistance from the police.
My advice, contact the seller and tell him that you need ALL of his information. Name, address, contact information for his account, etc and tell him that you have to use it to get his information removed from the black list. Try to get his DL number too. Tell him that the insurance company requires a copy of it to remove it from the list. Make up something clever like that. Then use that information to file for court. It's up to you if you want to try to settle it in court or not but it's your best bet. PD has a lot more to worry about than Craigslist scams and unless the insurance company or TMobile wants to provide informatino willingly to a law enforcement official. They may or may not because they are under no legal obligation to comply unless it's ordered by the court. But again... that's really up to you.
One other option is to consult with your local prosecutor's office. Laws and procedures vary state by state, and between jurisdictions, but in Florida a lot of jurisdictions will operate some type of citizens dispute mediation program using volunteer mediators.
The idea is that by bringing both parties to the State Attorney's Office they will reach an agreement, or the more guilty party will make things right, and actually follow through on it because they believe it has a little more authority attached to whatever resolution is decided upon when in reality it may be an incident that is more civil in nature and could never be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal court.
we are talking about a $350 phone. just the court claim costs $200(at least here in IL).and there is no way you can get that guys information. the fact that he was able to sell you a bad imei phone means he is a pro, cuz not everybody can do that, you gotta have done it before. I am just curious how did you buy the phone without even trying to put a sim card on it..
What Binary said makes a lot sense otherwise not sure what else "Bad IMEI" could be implying.
If this is true, and t-mobile blacklist the phone for activation, may be you can try unlock and see if it works under other carrier such as AT&T? If works, you can try switch carrier or sell to AT&T users.
contact a subrogation service. They will scare the crap out of the guy and will get your money back...I got about 8 years ago on ebay when it wasn't so safe, someone sold me a laptop but it was just a poster of a laptop. Problem was in the description it never said laptop, it said item and it was basically a poster of laptop with its specs. so what I got was a laminated poster of a laptop for 1100 dollars. Subrogation services is a good thing. look into it.
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we are talking about a $350 phone. just the court claim costs $200(at least here in IL).and there is no way you can get that guys information. the fact that he was able to sell you a bad imei phone means he is a pro, cuz not everybody can do that, you gotta have done it before. I am just curious how did you buy the phone without even trying to put a sim card on it..
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Well i was switching from sprint to tmobile back in the day you could pop a sim in and thebphone would just work even if lost or stolen i guess things changed and i got hustled im not to worried im sure i can get it unlocked and make atleast the 330 i spent back its just that i signed a 2yr contract got scammed and want him to face some sort of consequence
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Well i was switching from sprint to tmobile back in the day you could pop a sim in and thebphone would just work even if lost or stolen i guess things changed and i got hustled im not to worried im sure i can get it unlocked and make atleast the 330 i spent back its just that i signed a 2yr contract got scammed and want him to face some sort of consequence
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U can never unlock an imei blacklisted phone.
tmobile block the imei number of the phone, when the phone ever was reported stolen lost or the guy asked for an exchange and never return it, there is no way to unlock the imei number so you are screw,
i say get together with some friends find this guy a kick his ass!!
when did you sign your contact.... If you just activated you might be under buyers remorse
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I was informed i could unlock and use on other networks just not tmobile with a bad imei? i was planning on selling on ebay including the info that it has to be unlocked and switched to anyone besides tmobile.
I signed the contract because i have a 14day period where i can cancel without a fee i figured i would find a way to change the imei if worse came to worse.
Last i was told by a t mobile rep that they were changing my imei and it will take around 2hours.
I thought it was as simple as putting in your sim card? I guess tmobile is getting with the times.
If the guy never used the phone asurion would never do a claim for him! They have to see the imei active for them to file a claim!
And it is possible to unblock a imei asurion can do it.
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Asurion told me it was up to T-Mobile T-Mobile said no I call again
they say they are changing it for me it will take 2hours been 2hours still no service
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/26/dmca-update-makes-new-phone-unlocking-illegal/
What's this gonna mean for the community? We'll all be felons next year?
More 'big brother' intruding in our lives. Seems like a good waste of taxpayer money and government time that could be spent on real problems.
how would this affect us?
android is open source, and it is still gonna allow rooting
I read it to mean that unlocking smartphones WILL be allowed still...they're extending the legality for another 3 years. Switching carriers will soon be illegal though.
http://m.cnet.com/news/feds-uphold-...0756?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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eXplicit815 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/26/dmca-update-makes-new-phone-unlocking-illegal/
What's this gonna mean for the community? We'll all be felons next year?
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This won't affect us in any way. The unlocking they're talking about refers to unlocking a phone to be used on another carriers network, not unlocking bootloaders, rooting, etc. It will be interesting to see how this affects some of the smaller carriers though, as they seem to tacitly encourage the re-flashing of devices originally sold by Sprint and Verizon to activate on their networks. This business model should be illegal under the new ruling, I'll be curious to see if there are still as many cell phone shops advertising the ability to reflash handsets and activate them on pre-paid services next year (that's pretty common around my neighborhood, but maybe not so much in better areas). Ideally I'd like to see that practice eliminated as it's the easiest way to monetize a stolen phone, and I'm still p*ssed that my EVO LTE was stolen last week.
What I'm surprised about is that it will be illegal to jailbreak/root tablets but legal for smartphones once this new ruling goes into effect.
Yeah that's interesting. I misread it, I thought it was rooting in general.
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What I'm surprised about is that it will be illegal to jailbreak/root tablets but legal for smartphones once this new ruling goes into effect.
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Stupid really especially for a device 9/10 will be bought without the carrier as the middle man, a fully owned, unsubsidized device. I mean hell. If I enter sudo or login as Root on my netbook/laptop wouldn't I be just as guilty lol?
BTW my laptop is an HP TM2 tablet. :silly:
Haven't read the article yet but as far as rooting goes, htc dev unlock *blegh* is basically a contract between you and the oem giving permission to modify your device as long as you leave their proprietary alone. Unless they specify that your are not allowed to exploit their software and specify in particular what area of their software (hurrah for grey legal areas) We can probably still soff the phones
Hi, so after searching the forum for a bit I've decided to post my question, this is also my first post even though I've been a member for awhile.. Just the first time I haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. So hey hi hello. Okay. So. I am in need of a tutorial for the uninstall and replacement of the sim/micro sd port. Solder points ect. I'm not a master at modding devices, but I'm pretty sure this is within my ability. So yeah, thanks in advance.
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Hi, so after searching the forum for a bit I've decided to post my question, this is also my first post even though I've been a member for awhile.. Just the first time I haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. So hey hi hello. Okay. So. I am in need of a tutorial for the uninstall and replacement of the sim/micro sd port. Solder points ect. I'm not a master at modding devices, but I'm pretty sure this is within my ability. So yeah, thanks in advance.
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Why would you wanna do this , are you planing to taking over the world???? anyways you may be able to find a tear down of the phone and go from there. Maybe this link
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haha, nothing that sinister. im just having trouble getting my device unlocked for gsm networks. just a thought i was having. anyways, i couldnt get sprint to do an international unlock on it because it didnt have a sprint number attached to it. apparently.. ive used chainfires region lockaway. didnt seem to work, as i was going through the terminal emulator i couldnt get the sim lock to turn off. which i assume affected the editing of the build.prop i couldnt add the ril. and ro. lines. which in turn affects editing the apn, i cant add a straight talk apn. so now im sitting just going through files looking at all of them, wondering if i do some hardware modding and then edit the corresponding files... if there is a way around sprints customer service ineptitude.
maybe get a sprint prepaid service for a month or two, and tell them you going out of the country:fingers-crossed:
yeah i was coming to that conclusion myself. really id only need a sprint card long enough to activate it with them. i was really hoping to avoid giving that ... evil evil company, anymore money. ill keep digging for a day or two and post any progress.
kylemcallister4444 said:
yeah i was coming to that conclusion myself. really id only need a sprint card long enough to activate it with them. i was really hoping to avoid giving that ... evil evil company, anymore money. ill keep digging for a day or two and post any progress.
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Yes sprint is a evil company ... How dare them not unlock a phone they are losing money on .... They pay full price and people want to get them cheap and unlock .. my phone is unlocked and had no problem doing it ...I have had sprint for about 10 years ... Do you really think that you should get a $700 phone and get it unlocked for like $200 and sprint just eat the rest. .. It's the reason there are international gsm phones ... You pay $700 and it's yours ... I just don't understand how all you people think by stealing these companies will not continue to allow this .... Should have got a vzw phone the government made them unlock them
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Sorry if I offended you. I assumed xda was a community of individuals that enjoy the challenges of outsmarting giant companies that.. I'm sorry, aren't losing money off these phones. I don't believe for a second sprint pays 700 + for this device. And regardless, what is the percentage of consumers that take the time to learn how to do anything technical enough to be considered rude or less profitable to the company? ..1 maybe 2 %? Like I said.. Sorry if I offended anyone, definitely not my intention. I bought this phone full priced.. Because I ran the meid through straight talk byop and it came up as compatible for their service. Then spent another 60 at Walmart to buy their activation kit. Yeah I consider a company that will put regional and domestic locks on their devices to turn more profit evil, and not just that, if you remember the launch of this device they didn't come out and tell people what they were doing with the locks; they waited until their was too many negative comments and videos going around to ignore. Even now people/business's that are less tech savvy are paying full prices to unlock their phones because their told it's the only way. My bad.
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Sorry if I offended you. I assumed xda was a community of individuals that enjoy the challenges of outsmarting giant companies that.. I'm sorry, aren't losing money off these phones. I don't believe for a second sprint pays 700 + for this device. And regardless, what is the percentage of consumers that take the time to learn how to do anything technical enough to be considered rude or less profitable to the company? ..1 maybe 2 %? Like I said.. Sorry if I offended anyone, definitely not my intention. I bought this phone full priced.. Because I ran the meid through straight talk byop and it came up as compatible for their service. Then spent another 60 at Walmart to buy their activation kit. Yeah I consider a company that will put regional and domestic locks on their devices to turn more profit evil, and not just that, if you remember the launch of this device they didn't come out and tell people what they were doing with the locks; they waited until their was too many negative comments and videos going around to ignore. Even now people/business's that are less tech savvy are paying full prices to unlock their phones because their told it's the only way. My bad.
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If you paid full retail. .... If .... Yes they should unlock for you but you also have to see the company side. ... They are there to make money ... They are a public company ... They answer to Stock holders. .. They don't pay 700 but yet they pay way more than 200 and they get their money back by the customer fulfilling the contact they sign. ... If they lose 400 on one out of 20 phones. ... That amount is at least double that on s4 and lg g2 just because they are easier to unlock .... I can tell you this is not acceptable to the ceo and others running sprint . So I can almost guarantee it will get harder to unlock these phones because of it . I am not offended but I see both sides of the argument
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If you paid full retail. .... If .... Yes they should unlock for you but you also have to see the company side. ... They are there to make money ... They are a public company ... They answer to Stock holders. .. They don't pay 700 but yet they pay way more than 200 and they get their money back by the customer fulfilling the contact they sign. ... If they lose 400 on one out of 20 phones. ... That amount is at least double that on s4 and lg g2 just because they are easier to unlock .... I can tell you this is not acceptable to the ceo and others running sprint . So I can almost guarantee it will get harder to unlock these phones because of it . I am not offended but I see both sides of the argument
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Geez I just realized my reply didnt post. If I remember correctly; it was really long winded, basically only amounting to one actual point, I just said I totally understand that aspect of it, and that I completely support the capitalistic way of life. Everyone from a CEO to a cashier at McDonald's is just trying to get paid and make the people around them happy. Really the only thing that bothers me is when they've clearly made their money off me, and now are gouging me for the few pennies and nickels I have left. I'm a typical poor college kid, so money really matters to me when I get it. And yes I did *really* pay full price for the phone, so this is just that much more annoying. I've mostly given up on getting it to work, aside from today, I put about 2 hours into digging around the net and snooping through the devices root directories. I had a thought that maybe if i could get a log of another note 3 source codes as a unrecognized sim was inserted, pushing the msl unlock prompt. maybe I could write an adb command emulating that. The problem I'm still stuck at is having an invalid sim error, tried 2 different carriers sim cards now (straight talk and verizon) having verizon show as invalid confused me because they are CDMA as well. Not really sure, Oh also getting a prepaid sprint plan apparently is a no go because their prepaid service only works for like three or four of their phones, and the note 3 isn't one of them. so I couldn't activate it if I wanted to.
kylemcallister4444 said:
Geez I just realized my reply didnt post. If I remember correctly; it was really long winded, basically only amounting to one actual point, I just said I totally understand that aspect of it, and that I completely support the capitalistic way of life. Everyone from a CEO to a cashier at McDonald's is just trying to get paid and make the people around them happy. Really the only thing that bothers me is when they've clearly made their money off me, and now are gouging me for the few pennies and nickels I have left. I'm a typical poor college kid, so money really matters to me when I get it. And yes I did *really* pay full price for the phone, so this is just that much more annoying. I've mostly given up on getting it to work, aside from today, I put about 2 hours into digging around the net and snooping through the devices root directories. I had a thought that maybe if i could get a log of another note 3 source codes as a unrecognized sim was inserted, pushing the msl unlock prompt. maybe I could write an adb command emulating that. The problem I'm still stuck at is having an invalid sim error, tried 2 different carriers sim cards now (straight talk and verizon) having verizon show as invalid confused me because they are CDMA as well. Not really sure, Oh also getting a prepaid sprint plan apparently is a no go because their prepaid service only works for like three or four of their phones, and the note 3 isn't one of them. so I couldn't activate it if I wanted to.
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They are first cdma phones not true gsm ... so sprint just like Verizon will never let another cdma phone on their system.... The only way to do such a thing is to change esn to a known good vzw esn ...which is illegal by the way ... You could never get vzw lte bands with this phone which is the only reason it has a sim card ... it can be put on cricket etc some other carriers as well ...do some research
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I own and I mean own a OnePlus Nord N10 5G on a T Mobile carrier. It's a decent phone I think, but the folks at T Mobile in the US apparently have a problem unlocking devices even though you own them. I spent over two hours on the phone and visited the store where I bought it from only to have wasted a ton of time. Can anyone tell me how to get around this? I want to root and flash my rom to global so I can, well you know why.. I have all my documentation to prove my device is legit I just need help. OnePlus Nord N10 5G
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Hint: Add OnePlus Nord N10 5G to this thread's title thus mainly owners of such a device get addressed.
jwoegerbauer said:
Hint: Add OnePlus Nord N10 5G to this thread's title thus mainly owners of such a device get addressed.
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Thanks! I'm new to this world and have a ton to learn.
You do not have any pending payment. Then tmobile must unlock your phone. You can use their app. T
You can call to customer care and ask for unlock code.
When you add other sim card, it is ask for code?
Mobilelearner said:
You do not have any pending payment. Then tmobile must unlock your phone. You can use their app. T
You can call to customer care and ask for unlock code.
When you add other sim card, it is ask for code?
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No, I don't owe money on the device, I paid cash at the carrier store. Apparently when you but a carrier phone from T-Mobile they require you to use it in network for 40 days before they will send you a token. To me this is a bunch of crap. I haven't put a new sim in as I am still using this carrier for service. It's just aggravating that this company wants so much control. Point being; it's MY PHONE!! I can get them to send my token for OnePlus in a month from now, so if there is a way I can get around that I am all ears. OnePlus Nord N10 5G T-Mobile
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40 days for locked mobile to unlock. You have no pending money. You can ask for unlock code. You can temporary unlock for 15 days using their apps.
I called them again today, spent an hour to hear the lady say that it wasn't their policy but the FCC? I don't know what the hell is going on.
i have a 300 dollar phone that is paid for and no obligations to them and yet because my ignorant American ass go at carrier based phone I now have to wait . If I could just wax the thing or trade it at this point I would.
Total BS
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I called them again today, spent an hour to hear the lady say that it wasn't their policy but the FCC? I don't know what the hell is going on.
i have a 300 dollar phone that is paid for and no obligations to them and yet because my ignorant American ass go at carrier based phone I now have to wait . If I could just wax the thing or trade it at this point I would.
Total BS
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no you dont lol
complain on facebook or dm me and ill give you corprats number they over ride aanyhting
I agree, you really did get shafted paying cash for a jailed phone mate. Why did you buy from t-mobile instead of ordering an unlocked phone from oneplus website?
You could have had verizon stick a sim in it immediately instead of getting forcibly bent over by t-mobile. You definitely have my sympathy. That really blows.
To be fair to T-Mobile, this has been their policy for years, and is publicly visible. It only would have required a little reading to discover. It's not really their fault if you didn't do your due diligence.
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To be fair to T-Mobile, this has been their policy for years, and is publicly visible. It only would have required a little reading to discover. It's not really their fault if you didn't do your due diligence.
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Lol at being fair to a major corporation that's apart of an oligopoly. Who do you think drafted the laws and rules that they hide behind? They ****ing did. I mean seriously bro... How much did they pay you to be shillin'? LMAO fair to T-Mobile... That's like saying "Now to be fair to the Nazis...". GTFOoH.
Just threaten them with false advertisement if they're playing the FCC game.
The ability to unlock your phone and when is in their fine print. Like on tv where everyone can see it, with a magnifying glass.
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Lol at being fair to a major corporation that's apart of an oligopoly. Who do you think drafted the laws and rules that they hide behind? They ****ing did. I mean seriously bro... How much did they pay you to be shillin'? LMAO fair to T-Mobile... That's like saying "Now to be fair to the Nazis...". GTFOoH.
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Can we be adults here? Or will we devolve to childish mud-slinging?
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I agree, you really did get shafted paying cash for a jailed phone mate. Why did you buy from t-mobile instead of ordering an unlocked phone from oneplus website?
You could have had verizon stick a sim in it immediately instead of getting forcibly bent over by t-mobile. You definitely have my sympathy. That really blows.
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I was certainly ignorant. This is the cherry popper device. I had never attempted nor knew about modding at all. Lesson learned.
If you paid full price for the phone, then T-Mobile has to unlock it for you. Try to contact their T-force support on Twitter.
I have one I got from Metro by T-Mobile for $40 as a port-in deal, but they have a different unlock policy, after 6 months you can unlock it.
Oh I filed a FCC complaint and TMobile super high up ended up unlocking every TMobile phone I needed unlocked. Even my woman's phone which she just got lol
For anybody currently reading through this post, and are considering purchasing a new device at full price...
Let this be a lesson to always ALWAYS look for an unlocked variant if you intend to fully own the device without carrier lock qualms. Unfortunately buying any device direct from a carrier store will inevitably contain the fine print we so often skim through right before handing them that cash money moolah. Buy unlocked if possible, and if not then go for the carrier variant you intend to stick with. Avoid this hoedown of a waiting for the ****hawks to swoop down to free you simply because you didn't do your due diligence. I mean, you don't buy an appliance that runs on 240v only to find you won't be able to run it in the US grid and complain to the seller for selling you a locked device that you now fully own, right? There's a certain degree of basic consumer knowledge required especially for a consumer who intends to modify the device through advanced technical methods, right?
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For anybody currently reading through this post, and are considering purchasing a new device at full price...
Let this be a lesson to always ALWAYS look for an unlocked variant if you intend to fully own the device without carrier lock qualms. Unfortunately buying any device direct from a carrier store will inevitably contain the fine print we so often skim through right before handing them that cash money moolah. Buy unlocked if possible, and if not then go for the carrier variant you intend to stick with. Avoid this hoedown of a waiting for the ****hawks to swoop down to free you simply because you didn't do your due diligence. I mean, you don't buy an appliance that runs on 240v only to find you won't be able to run it in the US grid and complain to the seller for selling you a locked device that you now fully own, right? There's a certain degree of basic consumer knowledge required especially for a consumer who intends to modify the device through advanced technical methods, right?
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Kinda. Up until maybe three months in, none of us were really clear about carrier variants. So a lot of people did buy expecting the usual metro crap, but not the TMobile fine print.