Hello Guys! I have another great fix, this time I figured out how to play Nova 3 with the full graphic effects on, and better yet, with no noticeable lag!! See my 4 simple steps below and enjoy Nova on the Primes the way it should of been released! Who said Tegra 3 cant do this, blame Gameloft for being too lazy!
*Purchase the game!* (no bootleg copies required)
1) First, you must be rooted for this to work! (and trust me rooting is a MUST for Prime and easy to do) If you are not rooted, please use this great, simple one step tool to root! Should take less than 10 minutes to do-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526487
2) Once you have confirmed root, I would recommend(but NOT required) that you overclock your device. I use EZoverclock, and my settings for balance are set at 1.3ghz, and performance mode now set at 1.6( no big hit on battery at all)
3) Ok, now download and install Chainfire 3D(free). Once it is installed, please open the app, and select Install the CF3D driver. Once selected the Prime will reboot. ** also, be sure that the root installed superuser! If not, you will need to install this for all root-required apps like chainfire 3D to work!
4) Now this part is not really required, but for those still having gaming issues with the Prime, please follow my settings on the thread below. For a lot of people including myself, this removes all random rebooting, lag and gaming issues for the Prime!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690619
That's it folks!! Launch Nova 3, and enjoy it in all it's graphic, IPS glory with barely any lag on the powerhouse that is Tegra 3!! Also, try it in IPS+ mode, it looks sweet. Let me know if you guys have any questions..enjoy!!
**Things to note**
I have my Prime overclocked to 1.6 in performance mode, playing the game this way, it's just FAST!!! However, if you want to stay at the regular balanced mode, it plays just as well as having the graphic effects OFF before this fix!
Lastly, there is ONE bug that I have noticed, when pressing the sprint button, you do not see your character run Fortunately, you really don't need to use the sprint button that often, and you can still "see" the environments, so you CAN use the button, but you will have to adjust to not actually seeing your character move. Again, this is a MINOR inconvenience to have all the graphic effects turned on until Gameleft updates the Prime (if ever). I will continue to play around with some settings to see if I can solve this issue.
Have fun guys!!
I'll have to give this a shot...
So by default, some effects are disabled on the Prime?
seeknom said:
I'll have to give this a shot...
So by default, some effects are disabled on the Prime?
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Give it a try, it works! Yes, the game runs on the Prime (an IPad 3) with high graphic effects turned off.(fire on buildings, smoke effect while shooting guns etc). This trick enables it. I guess that Gameloft didn't want to show that the Tegra 3 can handle effects that the IPad 3 cannot! Lol
I carried out 1-3 as suggested on .28 and this fix seems to work really well, nice find. My other 3D games also perform much better without any issues as well Lets hope it lasts!
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I carried out 1-3 as suggested on .28 and this fix seems to work really well, nice find. My other 3D games also perform much better without any issues as well Lets hope it lasts!
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Glad to have helped buddy, enjoy!!
Erm.... doesnt chainfire driver illuminate the tegra3 specific effects?
So no water effects and so on?!
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Erm.... doesnt chainfire driver illuminate the tegra3 specific effects?
So no water effects and so on?!
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No, follow my instructions. You are not installing the plugins from chainfire, just the driver. This tricks the apk file to use the games full features by default.. which was cut off for tegra by gameloft
Seems like a pretty big coincidence that you posted this just 3 days after this thread said the exact same thing... Whatever, I guess you're able to use all the effects.
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Seems like a pretty big coincidence that you posted this just 3 days after this thread said the exact same thing... Whatever, I guess you're able to use all the effects.
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Wow...two things about me, if i received any info from another source or thread, I ALWAYS give whomever i got the info from props. Secondly, I dont even own a galaxy note, so there would be no need for me to view that thread whatsoever. However, if you do a simple google search, there are multiple postings on how to use chainfire to fix the nova 3 issue. My instructions were on how to optimize it to work better for our Primes (no lag etc)
I have been using chainfire since I rooted my Prime, that's how i noticed that Nova 3 worked well, but it was really laggy. So i played around with the settings that i listed and it helped a lot. Thanks for pointing that thread out though!
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Wow...two things about me, if i received any info from another source or thread, I ALWAYS give whomever i got the info from props. Secondly, I dont even own a galaxy note, so there would be no need for me to view that thread whatsoever. However, if you do a simple google search, there are multiple postings on how to use chainfire to fix the nova 3 issue. My instructions were on how to optimize it to work better for our Primes (no lag etc)
I have been using chainfire since I rooted my Prime, that's how i noticed that Nova 3 worked well, but it was really laggy. So i played around with the settings that i listed and it helped a lot. Thanks for pointing that thread out though!
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No problem buddy. Although, having used this fix since reading that thread earlier this week, I haven't noticed any difference? It might be only on the few levels I've tried it and taken some screenshots, but really have seen no improvement. Which are you seeing higher graphics/details and or better performance?
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No problem buddy. Although, having used this fix since reading that thread earlier this week, I haven't noticed any difference? It might be only on the few levels I've tried it and taken some screenshots, but really have seen no improvement. Which are you seeing higher graphics/details and or better performance?
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No worries lol! Someone would have to be a complete idiot to claim responsibility for someone elses post on XDA, but then again nothing surprises me anymore
You dont see the fire effects on the buildings on the first level, the smoke effect after shooting your guns? These were not on the tegra-released versions before the fix. Did you already have chainfire installed before trying the fix? That would explain why you didn't notice the graphical difference
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No worries lol! Someone would have to be a complete idiot to claim responsibility for someone elses post on XDA, but then again nothing surprises me anymore
You dont see the fire effects on the buildings on the first level, the smoke effect after shooting your guns? These were not on the tegra-released versions before the fix. Did you already have chainfire installed before trying the fix? That would explain why you didn't notice the graphical difference
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I turned it on mid-game, a few levels in and haven't seen a big difference on those levels atleast (inside the ship and on the desert planet as of yet). But if it helps with the first few missions I'm all for it!
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I turned it on mid-game, a few levels in and haven't seen a big difference on those levels atleast (inside the ship and on the desert planet as of yet). But if it helps with the first few missions I'm all for it!
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You should see the smoke effects on the desert planet (that's the level i am on now) Every level is updated to show the max-graphics when you use chainfire as instructed in my OP
I installed chainfire and saw immediately the improvement in graphics. I would do some comarison sreenshots. But I don't see the option to turn off Chainfire without uninstalling.
Why can't we see the max details in NOVA 3 w/o Chainfire? Is it a fault of Gameloft or Asus?
Funny I was reading up in the s3 thread and they were using chainfire to get ipad3 effects so I posted right away in the nova 3 thread not realizing this one already existed since I used tapatalk and went straight to my subscribed thread. Lol. Thx for posting this though. Now I feel like I should start the game from the beginning again just so I can enjoy the game more. Haha
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Funny I was reading up in the s3 thread and they were using chainfire to get ipad3 effects so I posted right away in the nova 3 thread not realizing this one already existed since I used tapatalk and went straight to my subscribed thread. Lol. Thx for posting this though. Now I feel like I should start the game from the beginning again just so I can enjoy the game more. Haha
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lol..it seems everyone with chainfire installed "discovered" this huh lol. Also, the Ipad 3 DOES NOT have the full graphical effects eneabled, but the Ipad 2 does! Many Ipad 3 owners are upset on how the Ipad 2 performs better graphically then the Ipad 3. Its all due to the Ipad 3's gpu being eaten up by the retina display/higher resolution. It can not handle that plus the graphical display of nova 3....the Ipad 3 developers should o gave the device more ram/gpu power to run gmes better
Next game you should find a solution for Modern Combat 3. That one is plagued with connection lost issues. Love that game but it's very frustrating. Especially if your having an epic round!
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jjdevega said:
Next game you should find a solution for Modern Combat 3. That one is plagued with connection lost issues. Love that game but it's very frustrating. Especially if your having an epic round!
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I had this issue when connecting to my home router but tethered to my phone was no issue. And yea its Fn frustrating when you get disconnected and you're on a killing streak.
When I want to Sprint (Run fast) i get a black screen with a red line across the screen. (nova 3)
I tried the multiplayer Modus and saw this. Can anyone help me?
Stocki96 said:
When I want to Sprint (Run fast) i get a black screen with a red line across the screen. (nova 3)
I tried the multiplayer Modus and saw this. Can anyone help me?
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I have exactly the same problem.
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so i just got my second TFP, and i friggin love it. previous version had all of the known issues, especially the reboot/lockup, so i sent it back. i updated this one to ICS asap to see if it would do it too. it hasnt! what can i do to really tax this baby and see if itll handle the load? wanna make sure this is the one im keeping before applying screen protectors and rooting
Thanks in advance, guys!
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so i just got my second TFP, and i friggin love it. previous version had all of the known issues, especially the reboot/lockup, so i sent it back. i updated this one to ICS asap to see if it would do it too. it hasnt! what can i do to really tax this baby and see if itll handle the load? wanna make sure this is the one im keeping before applying screen protectors and rooting
Thanks in advance, guys!
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Underclock it to 159mhz on a single core and play the tegra 3 version of shadow gun. Now THATS funny.. download a huge file and listen to music at the same time for good measure.
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Underclock it to 159mhz on a single core and play the tegra 3 version of shadow gun.
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you get a thanks for the smile...
James Harrison said:
Now THATS funny.. download a huge file and listen to music at the same time for good measure.
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was this a legit suggestion? or part of the flame?
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you get a thanks for the smile...
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was this a legit suggestion? or part of the flame?
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Lol no, I was simply saying that i've underclocked it that far and played a stupidly intense game and it's just funny to see it spit the dummy! The rest is just to make sure it has even more of a hard time ontop of all that haha
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Lol no, I was simply saying that i've underclocked it that far and played a stupidly intense game and it's just funny to see it spit the dummy! The rest is just to make sure it has even more of a hard time ontop of all that haha
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well i appreciate the entertainment. i helped entertain you in the troll thread, ty for returning the favor
i wanna try something that will seriously tax this thing as best as i can. most i have been able to do is install a ton of apps at once, and ill get a market FC or wait, but once i hit wait, it catches up. it only seems to happen when the app is being installed. we all know the prime has a slightly slow write speed on its internal flash. ill try some tegra 3 games, thats about the best idea i got lol
I've found the main trigger is during something intensive after its been on for a day or more and has changed wifi networks 2-3 times to change the orientation while its loading the market. Honestly they are pretty hard to crash if I didnt use it so much I might think it crashes too much but then I realizes its been running for 18 hours with notifications 10 apps background running and I decided to change the market orientation while installing two games and connecting to wifi...and reboot.
Speaking of Reboot anyone remember that cartoon ? I just had a flash back
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Speaking of Reboot anyone remember that cartoon ? I just had a flash back
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Bob was the Shiz, Megabyte can suck it
ill try your method btw, thank you
Why are you looking to force a reboot?. Use device as normal and see if it does. Any device will reboot if you tax it too much n runs out of ram. All this will mean is that you forced a reboot. It didn't happen naturally on its own. Meaning there is nothing to complain about when it does reboot. It was of your own doing.
Also don't try that underclock thing. You will be in for a big surprise when your device rebooted n won't cut back on anymore...lmfao because the clock speed too low. That's playing with fire. Not all primes act the same. You've been warned..lmao
Try WiFiKill on it!
It worked for me.
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Why are you looking to force a reboot?. Use device as normal and see if it does. Any device will reboot if you tax it too much n runs out of ram. All this will mean is that you forced a reboot. It didn't happen naturally on its own. Meaning there is nothing to complain about when it does reboot. It was of your own doing.
Also don't try that underclock thing. You will be in for a big surprise when your device rebooted n won't cut back on anymore...lmfao because the clock speed too low. That's playing with fire. Not all primes act the same. You've been warned..lmao
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oh no, we aint doin that. ive had the underclock/overclock problem before on my evo... i get what youre saying though. makes sense. hasnt froze yet!
Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
I was able to get better wallpaper using zedge on the market. It doesnt zoom in like selecting from folder.
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Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
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Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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Well ACTUALLY I was only speaking of my note... If you took the time to read my post before rudley trying to correct me!!!
Also thank you for your help in this matter...
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Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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But how is it that we're the only 2 ppl with lag out of all the new notes that came out???
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Mine was lagging really bad as well... at least with the tw launcher. I dl go launcher with the ICS theme and its slightly faster but still lagging
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Are all of you closing down your background apps and/or running on power saver mode?
There is no reason you should be that laggy.
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I have not Seen any Lag Unless I Use a Launcher. othcr than that Seems to Be just as Smooth as my Skyrocket.
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
Actually my note is kinda "laggy, sluggish, choppy" as well. I'm kind of a sad man right now, I still LOVE this thing but it's performance is not all that great at the moment for me.
Not entirely sure why either...I tried a few launcher none make it better and some make it worse.
grrr...
what kind of Lag. I have only Seen It while Using a Launcher. It actually Is JUST as Smooth as my Skyrocket when right next to it .
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Really strange. I am completely stock right now with all the bloat still installed, microbes live wallpaper, and I just tried this in the market and get no lag whatsoever.
I went to the AT&T store and the Note was laggy. I killed background tasks, eliminated widgets, removed bloatware... nothing
I really like the screen size + google maps navigation but I'm not good at rooting so I've gotta see if this lag stuff continues on stock before taking the plunge.
Hmm :/ I'll take a video of it tomorrow. All power saving options are off, nothing much running in the background. Maybe I should take it into an ATT store and compare it side by side to the ones on display.
I'm glad most others aren't having this problem, that means its something that can get fixed or replaced rather than just being an underpowered processor for the resolution of the screen.
Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
Oh and have a nice day
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
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I've just spent the last 24 hours trying to customize my gnote. now u say hard reset may fix my problem... has anyone tried this yet?
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Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
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^Somebody needs to get laid STAT!
I'm absolutely willing to do all of that, and I will, but going from a captivate, to an infuse, to this, and having it be the slowest out of the box when the other two were single core just strikes me as not right. And with others stating that they don't have this issue, makes me think there must be something going on here. Before I mask the problem with the OC kernel and a new launcher I'd rather know that there isn't something wrong with my specific note.
Glad the lag doesn't bother you
imitenotbecrazy said:
Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
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Hey there all,
I was wondering... my Tablet S device is quite sluggish, delays between swipes, opening & closing programs, typing etc.
Does anyone else have this issue?
I tried reformatting 3 or 4 times to no avail.
Latest version of the Honeycomb OTA update 3.2.1.
Also, flash on the web is ridiculously slow and causes extreme slowdown. For e.g. on the Youtube website, the flash applet itself causes lag when activated (Using Opera Mobile) and I can only watch up to 480p. Anything above that lags and is unwatchable --- I remember reading that this is due to the hardware limitations of the Tegra 2 chip.
Anyhoo,
If anyone has any ideas or just helpful tips on how to make the device run smoother, could you let me know? I bought this device two days ago and am regretting it hard atm hahah. My phone (Gala SII feels so much smoother/responsive than this tablet)
Thanks all.
Well mate I dont have any experience like that, in fact this is the smoothest experience for me yet (i have a evo 3d )
But I noticed some lag when we have a LWP in use, remove that first and try,
And that LWP lag is gone after I flashed UK FW from AiO tool by condi. maybe you should do the same
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And that LWP lag is gone after I flashed UK FW from AiO tool by condi. maybe you should do the same
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Oh?
My Tablet S is experiencing some sluggishness too.
Is the UK firmware better than the US firmware? Why did you flash it anyway?
Have you tried using an alternative launcher like ADW EX? The stock Home launcher from Sony is pretty poor. If you drag slow enough to make the preview windows appear at the top of the screen, the frame rate drops significantly. Always found the swipes incredibly responsive otherwise.
I've got a nice performance boost from rooting, then using AdFree and Overclock Widget.
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Have you tried using an alternative launcher like ADW EX? The stock Home launcher from Sony is pretty poor. If you drag slow enough to make the preview windows appear at the top of the screen, the frame rate drops significantly. Always found the swipes incredibly responsive otherwise.
I've got a nice performance boost from rooting, then using AdFree and Overclock Widget.
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So Overclock Widget does actually work on the stock kernel?
I'd been researching it, but wasn't game to try yet..
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So Overclock Widget does actually work on the stock kernel?
I'd been researching it, but wasn't game to try yet..
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Can't go above 1 Ghz, but you can set it and raise the minimum clock speed to get some more juice out of it. Might help the OP with some sluggishness during basic use.
I have no such problem at all with my tablet s wifi version, even when tethering with my iphone.
Why dont you take it back to the shop and make a complaint?
Thanks to everyone that replied with all those helpful comments.
I have tried everything, standard wallpaper. Format. Rooted.
Hmm maybe it is just my device?
BT keyboard input is really delayed for example. WiFi works due to that workaround (WiFi Locker app) I found using search, though I can't give much praise to the signal strength!
I just assumed the Tablet S was meant to be a bit sluggish (ref: CNET review and others: most say the tablet is a bit sluggish)
Ho dang, unfortunately I can't take it back for repair as I purchased it from eBay! x)
Maybe it's a hardware fault, a certain part(s) aren't working at optimum speeds/levels. I'll try taking it into a service center anyway.
Oh, and i'll try that Overclock widget!
Will report back with findings.
Thanks guys.
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Oh?
Is the UK firmware better than the US firmware? Why did you flash it anyway?
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Actually I had JP FW. I wanted to check if UK firmware will unlock my simlock, and bang the LWP lag is gone
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Hey there all,
I was wondering... my Tablet S device is quite sluggish, delays between swipes, opening & closing programs, typing etc.
Does anyone else have this issue?
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I have similar issue. The only solution I'd suggest:
(1) Get a cache remover like "1 Tap Cleaner Free" to remove cache. Cache can be very big ('00MB) in a few weeks.
(2) Get a task watch/killer, to find if there are any resident apps that keep reading activities/data of the tablet. You may then use the killer to kill them or uninstall them. (Frankly, many of those apps available in Play Store are susceptible. They might just want to get something from the user. So sorry that I could have no recommendation. But installing one and remove it afterwards may be fine.)
(3) Sometimes, a simple reboot helps.
Mine is working alright, though not terrific, and is having other issues to resolve. Taking back for service is always the last resort.
Its probably not what you think.
Battery is superb.
The screen, OMG its nice.
Phone is smooth as butter, despite heavy Sense.
Build quality is great.
However, so many games that I truly enjoy and have purchased do not work. The legacy menu button on so many apps eats screen real estate, and it is ridiculous.
I am aware that these aren't really the phone's fault entirely, but if the phone isn't a big seller, developers are going to drag their feet. That means we see fixes in months and in smartphone years, that's ancient.
So while I believe software will catch up, it will be later when 1080p becomes more mainstream. By that time, I am looking for another phone. So why do I want to suffer with incompatibilities?
Please don't tell me to sideload my stuff; I am getting incompatibility messages on launch as well.
As for the legacy menu, this is a two-fold problem.
1. Developers are lazy and not updating to Android standards like they should.
2. There is an abundance of false legacy menus.
The first issue needs to be fixed by app devs, period. The second one baffles me. I have a Galaxy Nexus. Not one of my apps has a legacy menu in it because if they did I wouldn't use it. Yet, my phone doesn't have a menu key either.
However, I am getting legacy menus, even in some games. What is worse, these menus don't work, or they replicate a clickable menu in the game. Why??? My Galaxy Nexus didn't have that issue. I can't even enjoy the screen to its full potential with legacy menus. I am aware I can mod this myself, but that isn't the point.
I know they are small nitpicks, but I think the screen in all its awesomeness might kill it for me as well with incompatibilities. I am not naive enough to believe that these will be cleared up any time soon.
The little black bar on the bottom doesn't bother me at all. I barely notice it. Just another one of those "opinions will vary" things.
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adrynalyne said:
The second one baffles me. I have a Galaxy Nexus. Not one of my apps has a legacy menu in it because if they did I wouldn't use it. Yet, my phone doesn't have a menu key either.
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The fact that this exists is kind of odd. When the One X(s) launched they had the same set up and it was even more annoying having less screen real estate to work with. HTC fixed it in the 4.0.3>4.0.4 update a couple of months ago. Basically, the recent apps capacitive button became a toggle. You were given three options:
1) As-is; launch recent apps
2) Long-press=recent apps, short-press=settings
3) Long-press=settings; short-press=recent apps
Check out the Teg3 One X dev forum. You should be able to find a solution you can port there.
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Here's what the menu looks like...
Ironically, HTC removed that option for the DNA.
It finally pushed me overboard. The app compatibility, that is. I returned the DNA. I got tired of playing Russian roulette with app purchases and wondering if I was going to run into a problem.
adrynalyne said:
Ironically, HTC removed that option for the DNA.
It finally pushed me overboard. The app compatibility, that is. I returned the DNA.
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VZW seems to enjoy butchering their devices from stock. There's a ton "enhancements" they made to the N2 that really don't make any sense. S-Planner is one of the coolest and most functional S-Pen enabled apps and they removed it and have Google Calendar set as the default. They also made the Wi-Fi notification toggle in to a Wi-Fi monitor so you have to go in to settings manually to turn Wi-Fi off and on. The N2 has a call and MMS blocking tool that they disabled also. Odd.
I agree about the menu button; it would have been better if it only took a small screen estate on either corners at the bottom instead.
As for compatibility issue, I have not yet came across that problem...well probably because I do not play any games. I'm sure many apps will start to optimize for the 1080p resolution, now that we have it on the phone.
I have been using Samsung Fascinate ever since it came out...even with the minimal level of developer support before it boomed with tons of roms, I had no problem using it for all of my essential needs. People usually assume that outdated devices are incapable of handling most tasks, but I think a single core is enough to cover a smartphone's functionalities. I bought the DNA because its spec somewhat overkills the current smartphone standards to the extent where it will be enough for another three or five years.
Technology will only continue to advance without ever having a "Peak", so I wouldn't stress over playing the waiting game for the next new thing to come out. Well, that's just me of course
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I'm sure many apps will start to optimize for the 1080p resolution, now that we have it on the phone.
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Now that a 1080P phone has hit the market you can expect the spec wars to continue. The rumored SGS4 is supposed to have a 1080P display as well as an unannounced LG phone. People with the N10 are having the same issue. So it'll get resolved in time it's a matter of whether you're willing to wait.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Smartphones-1080p-Screen-Retina-Display-HD,18639.html
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Now that a 1080P phone has hit the market you can expect the spec wars to continue. The rumored SGS4 is supposed to have a 1080P display as well as an unannounced LG phone. People with the N10 are having the same issue. So it'll get resolved in time it's a matter of whether you're willing to wait.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Smartphones-1080p-Screen-Retina-Display-HD,18639.html
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The only issue is that those 1080p phones won't hit the mainstream market until April-May timeframe. This even further emphasizes the fact that DNA is the phone from the future... As an early adopter, I'm loving it!
Sorry to hear you returned the phone, it was great having you in this forum. Enjoy your alternative phone choice!
I am also disappointed with game incompatibility, but keeping the DNA as I don't play that much. My son was upset about angry birds star wars turning up as a black screen though.
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cowisland said:
Sorry to hear you returned the phone, it was great having you in this forum. Enjoy your alternative phone choice!
I am also disappointed with game incompatibility, but keeping the DNA as I don't play that much. My son was upset about angry birds star wars turning up as a black screen though.
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Thank you for the kind words.
I really hope the device takes off. It has a ton of untapped potential.
I don't really game so I haven't come across any applications that don't work on this device. My two primary applications, however, are Facebook and Twitter...and the menu bar at the bottom is just a straight up pain in the ass. I don't understand why they couldn't either 1) add capacitive menu button or 2) do the menu buttons like the Galaxy S3/Note 2 etc. It just seems like an awful design decision to me, and I'm surprised more reviews didn't pick up on it.
It's things like this that lends to consumers thinking that Android lacks the 'polish' of iOS. I know it's not Android's fault by design, but the average consumer doesn't tend to care about AOSP vs. Sense, etc.
HTC completely changing sense on every update is baffling. They are so terrified of their market loss that it appears they have zero confidence.
And what happened to the button remap mod in 4.1? Gone.
I think this may be my last HTC phone if they don't get their **** together
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Thank you for the kind words.
I really hope the device takes off. It has a ton of untapped potential.
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You are definitely one of the most refreshing people that post here. I hope to see you around from time to time
Definitely admire your choice. I feel like the DNA is the better phone for me, but then again, I don't do any gaming. And the Note 2, with its screen size, S pen, memory and massive battery make it a good choice for you my friend. I wish I could own both.
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sorry to hear you returned it. When I seen your name on these forums I was excited because I always loved your work. I understand though
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Its probably not what you think.
Battery is superb.
The screen, OMG its nice.
Phone is smooth as butter, despite heavy Sense.
Build quality is great.
However, so many games that I truly enjoy and have purchased do not work. The legacy menu button on so many apps eats screen real estate, and it is ridiculous.
I am aware that these aren't really the phone's fault entirely, but if the phone isn't a big seller, developers are going to drag their feet. That means we see fixes in months and in smartphone years, that's ancient.
So while I believe software will catch up, it will be later when 1080p becomes more mainstream. By that time, I am looking for another phone. So why do I want to suffer with incompatibilities?
Please don't tell me to sideload my stuff; I am getting incompatibility messages on launch as well.
As for the legacy menu, this is a two-fold problem.
1. Developers are lazy and not updating to Android standards like they should.
2. There is an abundance of false legacy menus.
The first issue needs to be fixed by app devs, period. The second one baffles me. I have a Galaxy Nexus. Not one of my apps has a legacy menu in it because if they did I wouldn't use it. Yet, my phone doesn't have a menu key either.
However, I am getting legacy menus, even in some games. What is worse, these menus don't work, or they replicate a clickable menu in the game. Why??? My Galaxy Nexus didn't have that issue. I can't even enjoy the screen to its full potential with legacy menus. I am aware I can mod this myself, but that isn't the point.
I know they are small nitpicks, but I think the screen in all its awesomeness might kill it for me as well with incompatibilities. I am not naive enough to believe that these will be cleared up any time soon.
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nkgangew said:
You are definitely one of the most refreshing people that post here. I hope to see you around from time to time
Definitely admire your choice. I feel like the DNA is the better phone for me, but then again, I don't do any gaming. And the Note 2, with its screen size, S pen, memory and massive battery make it a good choice for you my friend. I wish I could own both.
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I think he's holding out for the next group of super phones.
adrynalyne said:
Its probably not what you think.
Battery is superb.
The screen, OMG its nice.
Phone is smooth as butter, despite heavy Sense.
Build quality is great.
However, so many games that I truly enjoy and have purchased do not work. The legacy menu button on so many apps eats screen real estate, and it is ridiculous.
I know they are small nitpicks, but I think the screen in all its awesomeness might kill it for me as well with incompatibilities. I am not naive enough to believe that these will be cleared up any time soon.
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Wow, this post was spot on! I'm an android newbie and DNA is my fist phone without the menu button. So all this time I'm seeing these 3 dots at the bottom taking up precious real estate and I JUST signed up in this forum so that I could ask what is it and how to remove it. I'm glad I found this thread cause I've about reached the point where I'm ready to return this phone back!!
Let me ask you this, do you think it will better? Also in the end I didn't get it, is it the apps fault or is it HTC sense that's at fault for not letting us have a choice. Also one final question, are there any other mods that allow you to change the setting, making the recent apps button act like a settings buttion?
and lastly THANK you for sharing my frustration! At least I know I'm not alone or crazy for being so annoyed that I'm losing at least .3 of an inch. What's the point of advertizing that it's a 5" phone then?!
this phone will get better with time .. it hasn't been out that long , nor has the unlock... The devs are starting to rip it apart , and then the fun starts
My HTC DNA
Damented said:
sorry to hear you returned it. When I seen your name on these forums I was excited because I always loved your work. I understand though
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I don't believe he returned it yet.
Yeah I use to run your kernels on the Dinc adrynalyne
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latebeat said:
Wow, this post was spot on! I'm an android newbie and DNA is my fist phone without the menu button. So all this time I'm seeing these 3 dots at the bottom taking up precious real estate and I JUST signed up in this forum so that I could ask what is it and how to remove it. I'm glad I found this thread cause I've about reached the point where I'm ready to return this phone back!!
Let me ask you this, do you think it will better? Also in the end I didn't get it, is it the apps fault or is it HTC sense that's at fault for not letting us have a choice. Also one final question, are there any other mods that allow you to change the setting, making the recent apps button act like a settings buttion?
and lastly THANK you for sharing my frustration! At least I know I'm not alone or crazy for being so annoyed that I'm losing at least .3 of an inch. What's the point of advertizing that it's a 5" phone then?!
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Note: it can be fixed through root and mods. HTC may patch it as well eventually.
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this phone will get better with time .. it hasn't been out that long , nor has the unlock... The devs are starting to rip it apart , and then the fun starts
My HTC DNA
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Oh I know. The menu thing was fixable. It was the app compatibility that made me decide.
I am wondering if anyone has tried the Reicast DC Emu and has a problem with the phone just soft rebooting randomly.
It runs amazingly and my phone has no issues with any benchmark, highend game or emu so I am guessing is a matter of the alpha status and maybe not fully compatible with the adreno 800 yet but want to see what others are getting.
UPDATE 02/04/2014
Attached one APK that did not reboot my phone when playing Skies of Arcadia like all others have been doing.
shaolin95 said:
I am wondering if anyone has tried the Reicast DC Emu and has a problem with the phone just soft rebooting randomly.
It runs amazingly and my phone has no issues with any benchmark, highend game or emu so I am guessing is a matter of the alpha status and maybe not fully compatible with the adreno 800 yet but want to see what others are getting.
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Yeah it seems they have problems with 3d rendering. Definitely an app problem
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Yeah it seems they have problems with 3d rendering. Definitely an app problem
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Thanks for checking. I found time specific spots that make it reboot so at least it is easier to test now like in skies of Arcadia it will reboot my phone right after winning the first battle.
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shaolin95 said:
Thanks for checking. I found time specific spots that make it reboot so at least it is easier to test now like in skies of Arcadia it will reboot my phone right after winning the first battle.
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Can you send the developer a log? Perhaps it helps
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I need to figure out how to do the log part LOL
But yes, I contacted them and offered to beta test for our chipset. I really want this thing to work!
LOL, I just read that as "Racist", and went "say whaat?! "
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hahaha that is funny! Not to mention my "FUN" instead of PHONE
shaolin95 said:
I am wondering if anyone has tried the Reicast DC Emu and has a problem with the phone just soft rebooting randomly.
It runs amazingly and my phone has no issues with any benchmark, highend game or emu so I am guessing is a matter of the alpha status and maybe not fully compatible with the adreno 800 yet but want to see what others are getting.
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I can't get it to run. I did everything in the folders and it still tells me the files are missing
In the root folder create a dc folder then inside dc create a data folder.
Also make sure the two files you are adding there are the correct name as per the steps showing on their website or even the Google play link.
You may have to rename the if needed.
Phone rebooting is definitely a driver and security issue, and not a problem on the application. I don't have a snapdragon 800 device (getting new android devices is a really expensive thing), but i'll do some testing on adreno 203 that I do have. Perhaps I can fix the issue, but the blame is on the drivers
Well, knowing where the issue is, for sure beyond my knowledge but as long as I get a fix, I will be one happy man! :highfive:
shaolin95 said:
Well, knowing where the issue is, for sure beyond my knowledge but as long as I get a fix, I will be one happy man! :highfive:
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I have the galaxy note 3 (Snapdragon 800) and everything works perfect.
I have read of the same issue from other adreno users and even my brothers snapdragon 600 adreno 320 does it too, so not sure.
I just updated to 4.3 and still get the same.
shaolin95 said:
I have read of the same issue from other adreno users and even my brothers snapdragon 600 adreno 320 does it too, so not sure.
I just updated to 4.3 and still get the same.
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Can you document a way to reproduce it on github.com/reicast/reicast-emulator/issues/47 ?
(oh god, that spam filter is aweful)
Reported.
Thanks
Somewhat functional, decent for alpha release.
I have managed to get Sonic Adventure 2 working on the EU Flash but Daytona, South Park Chef's Luv Shack & Super Runabout- San Francisco Edition have caused hard & soft resets. At first I thought it was due to incorrect region flash files but tested them all on each game to no avail.
Still, amazing that this emu is finally on the march forward.
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I have managed to get Sonic Adventure 2 working on the EU Flash but Daytona, South Park Chef's Luv Shack & Super Runabout- San Francisco Edition have caused hard & soft resets. At first I thought it was due to incorrect region flash files but tested them all on each game to no avail.
Still, amazing that this emu is finally on the march forward.
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Not sure how you guys set this up, but i have done what it asked for with the folders and nothing seems to work.
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NoFate82 said:
I have managed to get Sonic Adventure 2 working on the EU Flash but Daytona, South Park Chef's Luv Shack & Super Runabout- San Francisco Edition have caused hard & soft resets. At first I thought it was due to incorrect region flash files but tested them all on each game to no avail.
Still, amazing that this emu is finally on the march forward.
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Not sure how you guys set this up, but i have done what it asked for with the folders and nothing seems to work.
Then it is not as it is supposed to be or it will be working mate.
Did you make sure the Bios file names are correct?
shaolin95 said:
Then it is not as it is supposed to be or it will be working mate.
Did you make sure the Bios file names are correct?
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Yup i googled the bios. And it keeps telling me to the file in its respectable folder. I also checked that is was named accordingly
I have managed to get the emulator running, but most roms don't work / have serious graphical glitches.
I've tried several bioses, but no change.