Basically I recently bought a WD Elements 1TB external desktop hard drive fr backing all my media up to from my computer. While inline at the time I also got a USB OTG cable for my shiny new Galaxy s3.
Basically, I reformatted the drive from the default NTFS to exFat, and loaded a bunch of films (around 170) on to i. Then I plugged it in to the OTG cable and into my phone. Worked perfectly, like a dream. Obviously took a few mins to index though.
The next morning I back up the rest of my stuff to the drive, mostly music pictures and documents. Tried plugging it into phone with the OTG cable again and i don't get anything. Then a couple of mins after pluggng in my phone says its safe to remove my 16gb micro sd card but nothing else. No hard drive shows up or anything and I have to remount the sd card. Any ideas why this could be?
Phone is stock, and the OTG cable works still with other items like flash drives and mice. The hard drive is exFat, powered by AC and about 250GB full.
Thanks for any help
That's weird. My 1tb external works fine here, the phone even sees both ntfs and fat32 partitions just fine.
What did you mean by "Then a couple of mins after pluggng in my phone"? You mean after a while with the hdd still attached to the otg cable, you were prompted to safely remove your microsd card?
@georaldc: Your phone is not stock since stock does not have NTFS drivers included.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
(Sounds stupid but the corresponding kernel code might have an issue)
You would need root to try to manually mount it. You did not mention whether you're full-stock without root or stock with rooted kernel.
Alternative solution:
Does it work on your computer without requiring fixing?
If the filesystem is not unmounted properly it might have corrupted and thus become unmountable.
If it works in the computer, try right-clickin on it in 'My computer', then 'Properties'.
Go to 'Tools' and choose 'Check now...' under 'Error-checking'.
Make sure both boxes are ticked and click on 'Start'.
Warning: Might take several hours depending on your drive performance and contents
After having checked the drive unmount it by using the 'eject' feature, then plug it into your (again freshly rebooted) phone.
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@georaldc: Your phone is not stock since stock does not have NTFS drivers included.
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Maybe OT, but can I install these drivers on stock ROM?
d4fseeker said:
@georaldc: Your phone is not stock since stock does not have NTFS drivers included.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
(Sounds stupid but the corresponding kernel code might have an issue)
You would need root to try to manually mount it. You did not mention whether you're full-stock without root or stock with rooted kernel.
Alternative solution:
Does it work on your computer without requiring fixing?
If the filesystem is not unmounted properly it might have corrupted and thus become unmountable.
If it works in the computer, try right-clickin on it in 'My computer', then 'Properties'.
Go to 'Tools' and choose 'Check now...' under 'Error-checking'.
Make sure both boxes are ticked and click on 'Start'.
Warning: Might take several hours depending on your drive performance and contents
After having checked the drive unmount it by using the 'eject' feature, then plug it into your (again freshly rebooted) phone.
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The hard drive works fine in the computer, and as mentioned, did work fine with the phone too.
Tried restarting it already :/
Full stock, I came from rooted DHD and don't really want to root this one just yet
Doing the disk check will write back when it's done
Thanks
Hi,
Where did you get the USB OTG cable for Galaxy s3? Or can I use the cable from my Galaxy S2?.
mlhdk said:
Hi,
Where did you get the USB OTG cable for Galaxy s3? Or can I use the cable from my Galaxy S2?.
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Yea. It will work..
The error check didnt do anything for it :/ same as it was before... anymore ideas?
Update
Now when I plug it in, a minute or two after it says USB connector connected and then recognizes it as a USB mass storage it tells me it is damaged storage and may need reformatting. This is crazy, the check brought up nothing. This is after full battery pull reboots each time on the phone as well.
Argh frustrating.
Hmm that's what I feared.
Do you by any chance have or have access to a linux-based computer (Ubuntu will be fine)
If so, please use fsck.exfat (or whatever it is called on the computer of your choice) on the drive.
Are you really sure you don't want to just flash a root kernel with NTFS built-in and use your external drive with an NTFS partition?
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Hmm that's what I feared.
Do you by any chance have or have access to a linux-based computer (Ubuntu will be fine)
If so, please use fsck.exfat (or whatever it is called on the computer of your choice) on the drive.
Are you really sure you don't want to just flash a root kernel with NTFS built-in and use your external drive with an NTFS partition?
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I don't :/ does it probably need reformatting or is there other ways of fixing it via Windows or (possibly) OSX? No idea why it's now suddenly not working
I really dont wanna root. I've come from a rooted DHD and was going to but at the minute I have no reason to as at the minute I get at LEAST 2 days battery life. Last week I had three solid days, and always have either my Wi-Fi or 3G on and pretty consistent usage with alot of texting and cut the rope The risk of losing my amazing battery with a custom kernel isnt worth it at the minute.
Thanks
Hi, ive had a similar issue. I also have a WD elements 1tb portable hdd. When i connect it via the otg cable,it recognises it but says that it is either blank or unsupported. All other peripherals work fine. It also works fine on my andoid tablet.
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I don't :/ does it probably need reformatting or is there other ways of fixing it via Windows or (possibly) OSX? No idea why it's now suddenly not working
I really dont wanna root. I've come from a rooted DHD and was going to but at the minute I have no reason to as at the minute I get at LEAST 2 days battery life. Last week I had three solid days, and always have either my Wi-Fi or 3G on and pretty consistent usage with alot of texting and cut the rope The risk of losing my amazing battery with a custom kernel isnt worth it at the minute.
Thanks
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The battery life you get out of a custom kernel depends on many things, primarily your CPU settings. Custom kernels allow variable CPU frequencies + governor, so if you overclock your phone then you'll get less battery life, running at stock frequency or less gives more battery life. Almost always, if the kernel is made by an experienced dev and if you run it at stock frequency to compare with stock kernel, you'll get more battery life out of the custom kernel. That's just because custom kernels are almost always better than stock. Most devs tweak their kernels for better battery life. The right kernel + ROM combination always gives great battery life.
For example, on my DHD with stock GB ROM, with heavy, continuous use I'd barely get 2 to 2 ½ hours or so of screen on time before it ran out. Now with Lord Clockan's IceColdSandwich ROM and his custom kernel I get 4 hours of screen on time with heavy use. So if you're already getting great battery life out of your S3, think about a proportional increase in that as I had with my phone, with a custom ROM + kernel. That's the benefit.
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sashank said:
The battery life you get out of a custom kernel depends on many things, primarily your CPU settings. Custom kernels allow variable CPU frequencies + governor, so if you overclock your phone then you'll get less battery life, running at stock frequency or less gives more battery life. Almost always, if the kernel is made by an experienced dev and if you run it at stock frequency to compare with stock kernel, you'll get more battery life out of the custom kernel. That's just because custom kernels are almost always better than stock. Most devs tweak their kernels for better battery life. The right kernel + ROM combination always gives great battery life.
For example, on my DHD with stock GB ROM, with heavy, continuous use I'd barely get 2 to 2 ½ hours or so of screen on time before it ran out. Now with Lord Clockan's IceColdSandwich ROM and his custom kernel I get 4 hours of screen on time with heavy use. So if you're already getting great battery life out of your S3, think about a proportional increase in that as I had with my phone, with a custom ROM + kernel. That's the benefit.
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@bennyob01 my hard drive is not portable it is an externally powered one. From what I've read the phone might not be able to supply enough power for our drive
@sashank
I had a rooted DHD for two years so I understand how it all works. I found I got worse battery life after rooting and anyway that is besides the point as I don't plan on rooting right now.
Anyway, update. I went ahead and reformatted and it was great got all my films etc on and now its gone again. Iv been constantly safely removing from both phone and laptop. I running a portable linux now so i'll try the fsck.exfat now and let you know
Thanks
Update
fsck didnt turn anything up, it's appearing clean
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I have around a strange persistant problem.
I have around 250MB of internal app storage space left and used about 650Mb of storage of apps on my external 32Gb SDHC card.
I am using autostarts and task manager to manage the start up of apps and stop things running which works really well at prolonging battery life to the point where I reach a good 14 hours with heavy use on battery (I have five e-mail accounts pushed all sorts of widgets and use the phone fairly heavily on an average day, admittedly I get a little less if I use multimedia to any extent) I am using a stock 2.3.5 build from which I have removed some bloat stuff so I have about 35MB of rom storage left. It's rooted and has CWM installed etc.
In total I have something approaching 650 app elements in Titanium Backup depending on what I do or dont have installed at any given point.
Without the SD card the phone boots fine everytime. With the SD card in depending on the amount of .asec files in the .android secure folder the phone will often boot up and then during the processes after boot semi crash. By this I mean it will boot up then about 2-5minutes during the afterboot it will stop working and drop in a loop where it is still trying to run after boot process like scanning for media and stuff but loses connection with the carrier and then loops. Removing the sdhc card and moving some of the .asec files out of the the .androidsecure folder usually fixes this. It does not come up with safe mode or anything like that.
Has anyone else experienced this? Have I simply reached the limits of what the phone can do? My guess is that the problem lies with the process of copying/unpacking the .asec files into the /mnt/asec structure?
Can anyone offer any useful advice the 32Gb SDHC card is only class 2 (all that was available when I got it) I am thinking a faster one MIGHT solve the issue but that seems only a possibility and investing in a new card simply to find out it doesnt fix the issue would be a relatively expensive mistake. Has anyone else found similar limits?
You realise that's intimidatingly long to read right? Please write in shorter forms.
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You realise that's intimidatingly long to read right? Please write in shorter forms.
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Not exactly helpful... Its far better to have a decent descriptive long post than people who writes "I have tons of apps but I get problem with connection".
@op I also have a tons of apps, fairly close to the amount you have, but still have quite a bit of space left, do you make a lot of backups and such? Check your SD card, because I remember a post here saying that deleting files within the lost folder can save space. (some people lost GBs, some just a few MBs) Best if someone here can confirm its safe to delete the files within though.
A known problem with some phones is 32GB cards some work well others dont some phones play up others dont .64GB even worse .
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Hmmmm seems like you are stressing the filesystem's/IO scheduler's timeout limit to the max with a class 2 card.
I would recommend you doing two things:
a) You have your phone rooted, try installing SiyahKernel, Voltage Control and change the I/O schedulers - thru set on boot -> init.d script (try alternating between noop, sio, bfq and VR), if that still doesn't help, try adding Thunderbolt Scripts as well - especially the remount script via script manager (links in my sig).
b) Try a different rom perhaps? Stock ROMs are not the most optimized things under the sun in terms of SGS2... back up your media to your PC, do a nandroid/titanium backup to your external sdcard and try flashing another rom. If it doesn't work, you can always restore the nandroid.
Hope it helped somewhat ^^
Thanks for the advice guys, think I might see if I cant test a faster card off a mate see if that helps.
Otherwise I will try that syrah kernel and scripts, not too keen to go for custom roms my experience of them with the galaxy s was they all seemed to have a major bug that I couldn't live with I always ened up back on stock with mods. Haven't really tested any on the s2 but if I were to I would need to be very stable with very few bugs. I also kind of like some of the samsung stuff? for example I'm using a hack versions (fragg0rs) of TW4 with it I can run the buddies now widgit from the original galaxy s and I love that. nearest thing I can find to the carosel I used to get on the samsung omnia i8910 (great phone badly let down by symbian)
To the guy that criticised the length of the original post on top of what else that has already been said, do you have the first clue about troubleshooting? especially an issue that is not referenced anywhere else? The golden rule is the more information the better. This is an issue I have been working around now for several months, I have been searching for similar (on and off not obsessively) issues posted anywhere and found nothing that helps but thanks for your rather pointless input stick to helping with the noob posts eh?
This is known problem. I have this problem too.
Several threads already talked about this since long time ago.
Here are some of threads exactly describing same problem with OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285844
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102920
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328191
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446961
That last one is the thread I created last month and still active until now.
So here is the summary:
- This problem is side effect since ROM version 2.3.5.
- Version 2.3.4 and earlier does not have this problem.
- This problem still exists in ICS LPB leak
- It seems that Samsung does not know about this problem.
The only workaround solution:
- Downgrade to version 2.3.4 or below
For us who have this problem, please add your post to the thread I created above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446961) and rate high to keep the thread alive so it will get attention from many users and hopefully from Samsung.
you just saved me money buying a new card thanks for that.
Hi all,
I was looking into overclocking and underclocking the hummingbird processor withing my galaxy player 5.0
The overclocking is obviously for fun (I know the risks to the CPU and battery), the uderclocking is more so for power management.
I so far have not been able to go past the 1 GHz on the stock kernel.
Has anyone else tried this on stock/custom kernel and gotten any descent results?
I'm intrested in your expierences.
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I'd upload the 5.0 compatible kernel and ROM into my device to use it and try it out; I found it on this sight, but I have been stuck on attempting to backup my current Kernel and ROM, as I do not want to loose it.
(I'm trying to do it "manually" with a program that was meant for something totally different, its interesting on the parts of data I could dump, but nothing is usable).
But aside from that, I have been trying different things with just the root on stock kernel and ROM, and I have found a few things that were fun to play with like the droid wall and an SD speed up...
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honestly I do not see anything else I need/can use the root for right now...
An I missing something? Is the android that open...?!
(This is coming from someone who worked and worked to unlock an iPod touch and turned it into an iPhone and partially into a pocket PC)
I remember the kernels name: Entrophies Kernel (idk how to spell it)
(Its on this forms sight in a different category somewhere)
-I'd use it, but first I'm putting back the stock charging and battery management, I personally do not like the settings he has, Li-Ion Polymer batteries like a complete charge, and a steady charge with a taper at the end...
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Any thoughts and experiences on anything I had not asked about is also welcome.
Everywhere I look for information about this device, I keep finding random one posts with questions and never any answers.
Also, people seem to not know about this device, and also not know how to modify and back its data up, including me with my failed atempts... o_o
Ultimately, if I can figure enough out about this device, because everything I have found so far is scattered about online, I'd like to make a post and dedicate it to the galaxy 5 player eventually, with up-to-date (or as close as possible) info on many things. Because thats the biggest problem I see, nothings ever centralized.
If you have root then This should work on your 5.0 player. I just installed it (stock) to try after seeing your post and i already have my 5.0 overclocked to 1.1ghz
Tegrak Overclock is a great utility to over and under clock your CPU.
[root]How to back up your current kernel U.S 5.0 YP-G70
Download MDump Partition dumper v0.02: link in signature!
Open MDump on your device and select "mmcblk0p11"
Rename the file: mmcblk0p11.mdump -> zImage
Touch "Start Dump"
Move the file to a linux machine and put it in a tar ball. (example command: tar -H ustar -c zImage > kernel.tar)
You now have a backup of your stock kernel which you can reflash using odin! (kernel.tar)
Update: I just noticed that you wanted the ROM too, it's mmcblk0p13. You can just dump that as well; rename it "factoryfs.rfs" and include it in the tar ball.
I plan on eventually adding support for clocking at 1.2 GHz and voltage control - I've just been busy with some issues with my I777 kernel (SoDs... ) and busy with real life in general.
I won't be just grabbing rumirand's patches as his use a slightly different approach than the netarchy-style code I prefer.
wow thanks everyone for the fast replies, I'm replying to each post in order, I added quotes to show which ones I am replying to.
murph5525 said:
If you have root then This should work on your 5.0 player. I just installed it (stock) to try after seeing your post and i already have my 5.0 overclocked to 1.1ghz
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Thanks for the link, I added the app to my device, and overjoyed, I clicked on the 1.3 GHz setting and applied it!
I do not see much of a difference as my device never lagged, if that, before.
I tried a few benchmark utilities, and it seems to surpass almost all the single core CPU phones I looked at...
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Tegrak Overclock is a great utility to over and under clock your CPU.
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I was playing with the underclocking features, and my already 2-2.5 day battery looks like it will last another day...lol
Meticulus said:
Download MDump Partition dumper v0.02: link in signature!
Open MDump on your device and select "mmcblk0p11"
Rename the file: mmcblk0p11.mdump -> zImage
Touch "Start Dump"
Move the file to a linux machine and put it in a tar ball. (example command: tar -H ustar -c zImage > kernel.tar)
You now have a backup of your stock kernel which you can reflash using odin! (kernel.tar)
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I was not expecting this... Thank you very much, you just saved me a lot of trouble!
I'm trying this in a few days, I've got a couple tests to study for this week...
Entropy512 said:
I plan on eventually adding support for clocking at 1.2 GHz and voltage control - I've just been busy with some issues with my I777 kernel (SoDs... ) and busy with real life in general.
I won't be just grabbing rumirand's patches as his use a slightly different approach than the netarchy-style code I prefer.
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I really like your kernel, you have done a nice job with it!
I was just wondering if you are keeping a single serries of the kernel or one with the modified power management, and one without?
Reason asking, is that I'm an EE, and I know a few people who work with battery management, and they all tell me the Li-Ion Polymer batteries like to be fully charged. I'm just curious as to your approach/reason behind stopping the charge just short of the top?
I like your selections for the custom charging with the kernel for quicker charge times... when I eventually get your kernel onto my device, I'm going to see if I can change settings while its installed, kinda like a power charge for when needed, and a regular charge for over night for less stress...
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idk, I'm new to android, I've been stuck in i-Devices lingo for a long time and I'm slowly figuring this android stuff out...
So far, the only real thing I actually needed root for is overclocking and underclocking, droidwall, and tor... I like how open the system is (aside from the kernel/boxroom seeming to be locked when my friend tried a program called adb on it the other day).
Just curious, anything fun I can do with a custom kernel/rom? the only thing I see it can do so far from searching a few links is themes? idk, i need to look into it more...lol
I came across running ubuntu linux on the device through a vnc, even though its installed on the device... I was thinking of trying that if it looks like its ok...lol
I'm just a bit excited, I have this thing that can do so much, but idk what to do with it other than using it as a free wifi phone so far...lol
zBusterCB87 said:
I really like your kernel, you have done a nice job with it!
I was just wondering if you are keeping a single serries of the kernel or one with the modified power management, and one without?
Reason asking, is that I'm an EE, and I know a few people who work with battery management, and they all tell me the Li-Ion Polymer batteries like to be fully charged. I'm just curious as to your approach/reason behind stopping the charge just short of the top?
I like your selections for the custom charging with the kernel for quicker charge times... when I eventually get your kernel onto my device, I'm going to see if I can change settings while its installed, kinda like a power charge for when needed, and a regular charge for over night for less stress...
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I'm an EE myself. That's odd - all information I've ever seen says that Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries do NOT like to be fully "topped off" or "trickle charged".
I'll try to dig up my sources later, but, from memory:
Overcharging them can result in metallic lithium plating out, which leads to permanent capacity loss. This is why all Li-Ion chargers stop charging once current drops below a certain rate in the constant-voltage phase. In the case of almost every Samsung I've ever used, CPU/power usage counts against the charge current limit - so I'm REALLY paranoid about the charger terminating properly, which is why I make it cut off earlier, as a way of offsetting some of the stress on the battery that the charging rate bump creates.
Also, Li-Ion batteries stored at maximum charge will lose capacity far faster than ones stored at around 50% charge. (This is why almost all new devices have batteries only 50% charged or so.)
I may eventually add a feature to disable the increased charging rate at runtime, however, in the case of the Galaxy Player:
It has a 2500 mAh battery, so 800 mA is actually still less than C/3 charge rate for the battery, whereas on most Galaxy S phones, they charge at 600 mA for an (approximately) 1650 mAh battery, making charge rate slightly more than C/3.
I also reduce charge rate below stock near the top - the technique is inspired by this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/20/apple-patent-application-points-to-denser-batteries-improved-ch/
idk, I'm new to android, I've been stuck in i-Devices lingo for a long time and I'm slowly figuring this android stuff out...
So far, the only real thing I actually needed root for is overclocking and underclocking, droidwall, and tor... I like how open the system is (aside from the kernel/boxroom seeming to be locked when my friend tried a program called adb on it the other day).
Just curious, anything fun I can do with a custom kernel/rom? the only thing I see it can do so far from searching a few links is themes? idk, i need to look into it more...lol
I came across running ubuntu linux on the device through a vnc, even though its installed on the device... I was thinking of trying that if it looks like its ok...lol
I'm just a bit excited, I have this thing that can do so much, but idk what to do with it other than using it as a free wifi phone so far...lol
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Well, on many Android devices, root is needed to kill carrier bloatware. It happens that wifi-only non-carrier-branded devices tend to be less mangled and require less debloating. (Often none...) I've frequently run stock system firmware with custom kernels on wifi-only devices for long periods of time - but carrier-mangled devices almost always need an immediate debloat.
Hi all,
Im not a noob around here I have been lurking for a few years since I had my HTC hero and have been flashing my S2 for about 5 months now, very impressed with the amount of development here ...
I understand most things about flashing etc but am still unclear and have found it hard to find answers for the following:
I have Resurrection Remix 2.2 + siyah 3.3.2 + dualbooted with omega v15 4.0.3
1. Am I better off changing CPU frequencies/governers/voltages with the built in "performance" on Ressurection Remix or using the Siyah eXTweaks app
2. If I apply some settings in the extweaks app, such as an undervolt/BLN... will these settings apply to my second rom? + also, If I change settings on main rom, then load second rom, then go back to main rom will the settings still be changed on the main rom or do they get wiped.
3. I have one of those stupid small mini bluetooth keyboards which are about the same size as the phone and are under £10 on ebay... I also have a bluetooth mouse.. The bluetooth mouse works fine and stays connected for as long as I want, however does anybody know why the connection to the keyboard constantly times out after a few minutes? Very frustrating as I bought it to use with MHL adapter and have trouble reconnecting after its lost connection... I bought it because it was cheap and I dont have a lot of money to spend on that kind of thing, but if anybody has any other cheap alternatives can you post link.
4. A lot of the time recently, my phone crashes when watching a vide with MX player or playing a game... it just hangs.. dont know why, ive had RR running stable for over a week now with no tweaks applied and its still happening...
5. i have 4 copies of every folder showing up on memory card not enough space to copy data to laptop and format... any advice?
6. Advice needed on whats the best undervolt settings for me,I see multiple threads for Siyah _ extweaks but every time I mess about with that I end up breaking my rom and changing it... but when it has worked the battery life is great!
Apreciate anyone who helps or has any advice to offer, I will give thanks to you all.
~arron~ said:
Hi all,
Im not a noob around here I have been lurking for a few years since I had my HTC hero and have been flashing my S2 for about 5 months now, very impressed with the amount of development here ...
I understand most things about flashing etc but am still unclear and have found it hard to find answers for the following:
I have Resurrection Remix 2.2 + siyah 3.3.2 + dualbooted with omega v15 4.0.3
1. Am I better off changing CPU frequencies/governers/voltages with the built in "performance" on Ressurection Remix or using the Siyah eXTweaks app
2. If I apply some settings in the extweaks app, such as an undervolt/BLN... will these settings apply to my second rom? + also, If I change settings on main rom, then load second rom, then go back to main rom will the settings still be changed on the main rom or do they get wiped.
3. I have one of those stupid small mini bluetooth keyboards which are about the same size as the phone and are under £10 on ebay... I also have a bluetooth mouse.. The bluetooth mouse works fine and stays connected for as long as I want, however does anybody know why the connection to the keyboard constantly times out after a few minutes? Very frustrating as I bought it to use with MHL adapter and have trouble reconnecting after its lost connection... I bought it because it was cheap and I dont have a lot of money to spend on that kind of thing, but if anybody has any other cheap alternatives can you post link.
4. A lot of the time recently, my phone crashes when watching a vide with MX player or playing a game... it just hangs.. dont know why, ive had RR running stable for over a week now with no tweaks applied and its still happening...
5. i have 4 copies of every folder showing up on memory card not enough space to copy data to laptop and format... any advice?
6. Advice needed on whats the best undervolt settings for me,I see multiple threads for Siyah _ extweaks but every time I mess about with that I end up breaking my rom and changing it... but when it has worked the battery life is great!
Apreciate anyone who helps or has any advice to offer, I will give thanks to you all.
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1 make sure that they both are on the same settings.
2 I'm pretty sure it will only affect the rom you're on. Not both. Might want to check the dual boot thread though
3 try to forget the device and reconnect it/reboot then try to reconnect it
4 did you do a full wipe when you installed it?
5 I'm pretty sure there is a fix in rr FAQ on the op
6 not every device can handle being oc / uv.. If you break the rom on the setting increase it by 25/50 until you get it stable
Hope I could help
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kilometers4 said:
1 make sure that they both are on the same settings.
2 I'm pretty sure it will only affect the rom you're on. Not both. Might want to check the dual boot thread though
3 try to forget the device and reconnect it/reboot then try to reconnect it
4 did you do a full wipe when you installed it?
5 I'm pretty sure there is a fix in rr FAQ on the op
6 not every device can handle being oc / uv.. If you break the rom on the setting increase it by 25/50 until you get it stable
Hope I could help
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Thanks for your help! will try these now
4. Yes i follow the Extended steps to install rom on RR thread FAQ
5. I've tried that, it works temporarily but keeps coming back and messing up... (that was the original problem, it was just music and images. now its all files and folders)
6. I see... thanks
Was kinda hoping for a little more advice maybe
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Was kinda hoping for a little more advice maybe
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well the only little more advice given may be never under volt or over clock ur beast (GS2) since it never likes the same, they r only done on some specfic issues so keep the default settings
also the duplicate file issues its no more with 2.2 if u fallowed the extended installation steps in the FAQ properly
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well the only little more advice given may be never under volt or over clock ur beast (GS2) since it never likes the same, they r only done on some specfic issues so keep the default settings
also the duplicate file issues its no more with 2.2 if u fallowed the extended installation steps in the FAQ properly
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thanks mate
Do you mean it never works the same? I see, it's never been stable for me... however the extra battery life vs. risk of having to reinstall rom is a hard choice.. maybe if keep even more regular backups it may help if things go wrong..
And I have reinstalled 2.2 properly following the extended which I always do. Still have 4 copies of every file folder, and it's showing up the same in windows as well now. But i dont think it's taking up 4x the space...
Is there an easy way to fix this or am I going to have to reformat memorycard? is that best done on the phone or on windows?
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thanks mate
Do you mean it never works the same? I see, it's never been stable for me... however the extra battery life vs. risk of having to reinstall rom is a hard choice.. maybe if keep even more regular backups it may help if things go wrong..
And I have reinstalled 2.2 properly following the extended which I always do. Still have 4 copies of every file folder, and it's showing up the same in windows as well now. But i dont think it's taking up 4x the space...
Is there an easy way to fix this or am I going to have to reformat memorycard? is that best done on the phone or on windows?
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ver2.3 is going to be released today install the same with a full wipe and ur issues of duplicate file gets resolved
As I said, I'm a noob when it comes to not the Galaxy Note but also the Android Operating system. Before switching to Android in April, I was stuck on iOS (iPhone 4) for more than 2 years; before that was the good old Symbian OS on a Nokia N95 8 GB. So far, since making the switch, the experience has been great. Themes, ringtones, tons of customization are just some of the things that are easily possible with "jailbreaking" on my former device.
That being said, I'm still adjusting to my new phone even after 3 months. Thats why I'm starting this thread; I need help on a few questions. So, here it goes (I did search for a lot of these, but no solid solutions) -
1. One of the great things about my old phone was the battery life. Even after using the phone's music function, checking facebook/emails/news/weather every now and then, I would still have around 60%~80% juice left after an 8~10 hour shift at work. None of that on the Note. Just having the 4G running leaves me with around 40%~50% juice after work, with no hard usage like going on the web, or using my phone as a music player. How come? I understand that most of the juice is used by the big-ass display; but there is a still a huge consumption even when the display is not turned on at all. I recently came across a term called deep sleep on the forum; I'm not sure if my phone goes to that or not. How do I check (keep in mind that I'm a noob; I installed CPU Spy, Battery Spy and BetterBatteryStats, but what am I looking for. I'll include a pic from all these apps)? Basically, how do I increase battery life?
2. Charging/Data cables - I dont understand this.. I have included a picture of 3 cables. The 1st one of my brother's from an old HTC phone. This is the only cable I can use to transfer date to and from my phone; that too with a lot care because if I move my phone around, the connection gets lost and I cant even charge my phone unless I unplug the cable, put my phone in a stationary position and replug the cable. The 2nd one is the cable I use to charge my phone. I cant use it to transfer data (I guess because of the little head converter); again, with this cable I cant move my phone around. I have to keep the phone screen-up for it to charge; cant pick it up or move it around or no charge. The 3rd cable is useless. It came with a pair of bluetooth head set. I cant transfer data, nor charge my phone. On some cables, my phone shows its charging; but it either charges very very slow, or shows its at a 100%, but as soon as I take the cable out, the % goes down to 60~85. The phone seems to charge fine on a car charger I have (not a USB car charger, this one has no removable parts). I think it might be the USB port on my phone, but not sure.
3. The 4th picture is of the Go Task Manager widget. Currently its showing 239 MB of RAM free. I closed Battery Spy, and it came down to around 300~325 MB free. Does Go Launcher take a lot of memory? How can I free more RAM? Didnt the Galaxy Note have 1 GB of RAM; what happened to the remaining 305 MB of RAM?
4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
5. Flashing the phone with a custom ROM voids the warranty, right? Does the "flashing counter" thing work (I read somewhere that there's an easy way of flashing the counter in Recovery to 0)? I included a pic of a crack thats on my screen (long story short, I dropped my phone screen down on a rock). I'm about to send it to AT&T (since I have insurance from them) for the screen (hopefully they'll send me a new one, which will fix the whole charging/data transfer problem too). Will they check the counter too? Should I flash the counter? I have to pay $200 for a claim, be it water damage, accidental damage, theft, loss, etc; if they do check the counter, should the just drop the **** out of the phone so it dosnt work at all?
Long read, I know. Just wanted to cram in as much information as possible so that I can get answers as soon as possible. Any and all answers will be appreciated. Thanks a lot for taking the time to read through the whole thread and replying (if you do).
Ways to increase battery life:
- I hear using wifi as much as possible instead of data is a huge improvement as well as turning off auto sync and you can turn wifi off when the display is off. Also the typical of having it on a low brightness, finding out if you have any rogue apps that are causing more drain than they should. The last resort is to get either multiple batteries or an extended one with a different back case. Aside from those things, you are only going to get so much on time display from the note. I get on average 3.5 hours and can push my phone to about 22 hours from 100%. Milestone 6 Rom, KingKangKernel 5
About the cables:
- Buy a new usb cable. If you ever intend on modifying your phone or even transferring any time of data, you are going to NEED to have a secure and trustworthy connection. And by a new wall adapter. (most phone cables come with the little adapter head for outlets so just make sure it comes included). Pop it off for computer use, and pop it on for wall use. There are a ton of threads about those in the accessories section so you may want to give that a peek. They also have info there about possible substitution batteries.
Ram:
-I don't understand this too much because haha I suck with some techy stuff. But I believe that touchwiz uses a lot of the ram (could be completely wrong) But, I know that a lot of those apps that you are never going to use AT&T(insert name here) apparently constantly are using power and resources. I used to try to clear the ram all the time and it never really went down. Haha sorry I can't help more with this part.
Roms:
- Milestone 6 with KingKangKernel5 ALL THE WAY!!! I would be willing to walk you through the process step-by-step with all the files and such that you would need if you'd like. Other than that, you need to have an idea of what you want before going to the development side of things. Do you want Touchwiz, OC, UV, BLN (YOU WANT BLN lmao), miui, cm9, cm10 (haha), aokp, aosp, aocp, a stock feel, customization out the ying yang. Decide all this stuff and then your choices will narrow drastically to about two or three. From there, it is easy to experiment and possibly decide you had your requirements all wrong and start the process from the beginning haha.
Warranty:
- Get your next insurance claim through BB (best buy). Their black tie protection covers anything as many times as you want without that 200 dollar fee (might as well get a new phone at that ridiculous price!!!) for only ten dollars a month. : D
-Don't know how AT&T does their insurance stuff but I feel if your issues are physical (scratch/ port) that they have no reason to deny you a claim even if there is proof of modification because rooting doesn't crack your screen or break your port. Hahaha, but they can be uptight so I would suggest possibly getting the claim first and then delving into the developmental side of things. There is an odin flashable zip to bring your counter back to 0. I have never tried it personally but many people have had a ton of success with it so I would suggest checking out that thread and just reading carefully what other people do so that you do not make a mistake with anything.
Hope this helps. Hahahahaha, sorry it's so long.
Custom roms improve batt life greatly because on a stock phone u have tons of apps running in the background if u root and flash a rom u can freeze all of them that u want plus now we can over clock our kernels to make r note fly as far as the rom for u ....well u just have to try them diff strokes for diff folks lol i use cm9 roms alot u got to remember ur note has a huge screen so its gonna pull more batt...i also use jucie defender ultimite ...bigjoe has a super everything thread for this phone u can find all ur answers there
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1. Battery life varies strongly with usage, in CPUSpy each bar represents how much time the phone processor has spent at each speed. The more time spent at lower speeds the better for your battery life.
If you scroll to the bottom of the list the lowest speed should either be: 384 MHz or Deep Sleep
The phone only enters Deep Sleep if the phone screen is off, and no apps are calling for CPU time. This speed saves the most battery. Rogue apps could be preventing your phone from sleeping. BetterBatteryStats is a tool to help you discover these apps and either: change your usage patterns or uninstall them.
Check CPUSpy first. If Deep Sleep is not at the bottom, or its bar is relatively small then check BetterBatteryStats for the rogue app.
However even if it's in Deep Sleep if you get around the city a lot during the day the phone will be switching radio towers often, switching uses quite a bit of battery. If you stay in a single place for a while you should be able to leave it on a desk for 8 hours and find that you have lost none or almost no battery at all (Such as at night when you are sleeping).
This is a "4G" phone, carrier coverage is spotty and if you are in an area with bad reception or poor coverage, your phone's radio must switch to a higher power level to maintain a connection with the cell tower thus using more battery. 4G towers are more sparse, and therefore 4G has worse coverage compared to your previous phones.
2. You should be using the cable included with your phone. Charging cables obviously will not carry data. But data cables will do both, get yourself a good cable.
3. Don't worry about ram at all. Android has one of the finest ram management systems out there. The phone has 1 GB of ram, 200-300 MB is reserved for the kernel and kernel processes. Therefore you actually have around 700MB, the phone uses the remaining space to caches apps and other required data so that your experience is more fluid and "Lag-free". Not to mention the ram background services and apps are using. Which brings me back to my original point. Don't worry about it, fiddling with it could ruin your experience with the device and use more battery. Don't use apps to clear it, Google has already stated that this doesn't do much.
4. The original rom is your best bet if you want all of the features of the phone. Cyanogenmod is your second choice, Cyanogenmod does not have S-pen support and some of the services provided from Samsung. Cyanogenmod is very lightweight and is the most popular choice among all android devices.
Nightly-Built means that the rom is basically updated every night, so that you can receive the latest features and improvements. You can check every day and there will be a new update for your phone with the latest additions and fixes. However not all nightly builds are stable, but they are reliable at the moment.
5. The counter only counts when you use ODIN to flash bootloaders and kernels I believe. When most of us say "flashing" we mean flashing through ClockWorkMod or CWM for short. CWM does not advance the counter I believe. There are no reports of anyone being denied warranty because of the counter. Do not flash the counter reset, this does count as a "flash" and it is still detectable by AT&T.
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As I said, I'm a noob when it comes to not the Galaxy Note but also the Android Operating system. Before switching to Android in April, I was stuck on iOS (iPhone 4) for more than 2 years; before that was the good old Symbian OS on a Nokia N95 8 GB. So far, since making the switch, the experience has been great. Themes, ringtones, tons of customization are just some of the things that are easily possible with "jailbreaking" on my former device.
That being said, I'm still adjusting to my new phone even after 3 months. Thats why I'm starting this thread; I need help on a few questions. So, here it goes (I did search for a lot of these, but no solid solutions) -
1. One of the great things about my old phone was the battery life. Even after using the phone's music function, checking facebook/emails/news/weather every now and then, I would still have around 60%~80% juice left after an 8~10 hour shift at work. None of that on the Note. Just having the 4G running leaves me with around 40%~50% juice after work, with no hard usage like going on the web, or using my phone as a music player. How come? I understand that most of the juice is used by the big-ass display; but there is a still a huge consumption even when the display is not turned on at all. I recently came across a term called deep sleep on the forum; I'm not sure if my phone goes to that or not. How do I check (keep in mind that I'm a noob; I installed CPU Spy, Battery Spy and BetterBatteryStats, but what am I looking for. I'll include a pic from all these apps)? Basically, how do I increase battery life?
To increase battery life you can do a few things. Obviously, use as low brightness as you can stand using, and also try to use wallpapers with lots of black, as black pixels do not draw any power on amoled displays. Next, from your CPU spy pic it looks like a rogue may be holding your device in partial wake lock, as your 384 MHz stage has twice the time of your deep sleep stage. Uninstall any apps you dont need, like benchmarks and other one time use apps like that. Also, if you have stuff constantly syncing, that will drain battery with the screen off too. If you need push email, leave sync on, but change the sync settings of less essential apps to manual sync only, so your phone only syncs those when you use the app. Along with the syncing, if you are in an lte area, data usage will eat much more battery than the iphone for the same data usage. Lastly, if you have crappy cell service, that will also contribute to faster drain.
2. Charging/Data cables - I dont understand this.. I have included a picture of 3 cables. The 1st one of my brother's from an old HTC phone. This is the only cable I can use to transfer date to and from my phone; that too with a lot care because if I move my phone around, the connection gets lost and I cant even charge my phone unless I unplug the cable, put my phone in a stationary position and replug the cable. The 2nd one is the cable I use to charge my phone. I cant use it to transfer data (I guess because of the little head converter); again, with this cable I cant move my phone around. I have to keep the phone screen-up for it to charge; cant pick it up or move it around or no charge. The 3rd cable is useless. It came with a pair of bluetooth head set. I cant transfer data, nor charge my phone. On some cables, my phone shows its charging; but it either charges very very slow, or shows its at a 100%, but as soon as I take the cable out, the % goes down to 60~85. The phone seems to charge fine on a car charger I have (not a USB car charger, this one has no removable parts). I think it might be the USB port on my phone, but not sure.
Buy the stock Samsung wall charger/cable. It will do wonders for you. Solid connection, full speed charging, and data transfer.
3. The 4th picture is of the Go Task Manager widget. Currently its showing 239 MB of RAM free. I closed Battery Spy, and it came down to around 300~325 MB free. Does Go Launcher take a lot of memory? How can I free more RAM? Didnt the Galaxy Note have 1 GB of RAM; what happened to the remaining 305 MB of RAM?
Don't worry about ram usage, android as an os manages it just fine by itself. No need to constantly kill apps or use task killers other than the stock one if you absolutely need to kill something. Constantly killing apps/clearing ram can actually decrease your battery life as well, as constantly killing and restarting apps uses far more resources than leaving them running. Also, if you're constantly killing apps that have push syncing or interval syncing, they will just restart anyways, essentially just killing battery every time you clear ram. Lastly, use as few Widgets as possible. They are nice and pretty, but unless you need them they're just another service that is running, and will slow down your launcher performance if you have too many.
4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
Remember, there's no rush, and no "best rom", so just take your time reading how to flash each rom, and try each one out that looks appealing to you. Nobody can tell you what will suit you best, and since all of the roms are great around here, you really can't go wrong trying any of them until you find what fits you best. Custom roms are totally worth it, as they have all of the fat trimmed and are really fun to play with. Be careful though, you may find yourself developing an addiction after you get the hang of things. =].
5. Flashing the phone with a custom ROM voids the warranty, right? Does the "flashing counter" thing work (I read somewhere that there's an easy way of flashing the counter in Recovery to 0)? I included a pic of a crack thats on my screen (long story short, I dropped my phone screen down on a rock). I'm about to send it to AT&T (since I have insurance from them) for the screen (hopefully they'll send me a new one, which will fix the whole charging/data transfer problem too). Will they check the counter too? Should I flash the counter? I have to pay $200 for a claim, be it water damage, accidental damage, theft, loss, etc; if they do check the counter, should the just drop the **** out of the phone so it dosnt work at all?
Yes, flashing roms does void your warranty but only temporarily. You can set it back to stock firmware again and be just fine returning or replacing it. People have also returned their phones with the counter tripped, as it seems that as of right now, neither att or Samsung cares about it. Have you flashed anything yet? If not, get your phone replaced before you do just to be sure, then when you get your new one back, you can have already read and downloaded everything you need to root and rom it as soon as you get it back. =].
Long read, I know. Just wanted to cram in as much information as possible so that I can get answers as soon as possible. Any and all answers will be appreciated. Thanks a lot for taking the time to read through the whole thread and replying (if you do).
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tutusinghsohi said:
3. The 4th picture is of the Go Task Manager widget. Currently its showing 239 MB of RAM free. I closed Battery Spy, and it came down to around 300~325 MB free. Does Go Launcher take a lot of memory? How can I free more RAM? Didnt the Galaxy Note have 1 GB of RAM; what happened to the remaining 305 MB of RAM?
4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
5. Flashing the phone with a custom ROM voids the warranty, right? Does the "flashing counter" thing work (I read somewhere that there's an easy way of flashing the counter in Recovery to 0)? I included a pic of a crack thats on my screen (long story short, I dropped my phone screen down on a rock). I'm about to send it to AT&T (since I have insurance from them) for the screen (hopefully they'll send me a new one, which will fix the whole charging/data transfer problem too). Will they check the counter too? Should I flash the counter? I have to pay $200 for a claim, be it water damage, accidental damage, theft, loss, etc; if they do check the counter, should the just drop the **** out of the phone so it dosnt work at all?
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Ok first keep in mind I came to android with almost the same background as you and about the same time.
Question 3: anything with Go in the name I have seen huge team usage... also custom Roms will be a great thing for your ram you will see big changes if you go with anything like AOKP AOSP or AOCP. These are as close to basic unmodified android as you will find with little to no extras.
4: cyanogen mods are good in my opinion, nightly builds are not finals they are updated nightly... as for a Rom I tried a few and have found my favorite is the collective builds.they just came out with the AOCP (newly updated coming soon) and there is one member of the team that likes ultra slim builds and he slims them down to the bear bones. When ready to flash give them a shot.
5: flashing will void warranty, with that said so did the crack you have. This counts as physical damage. So insurance is the best option. I do agree best buy ins is great but as you have att ins might as well use it. With a crack screen I think you will get a different device to fix charge port but will most likely get refurb phone. I would root and flash with this one so you can do it and IF anything goes wrong you need an instant replacement any way and your not out anything
Other 2 questions I didn't feel I was the one to answer nor am I a expert on any of this, just the info I have
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Battery life isn't the greatest on the Note, but it's acceptable. If you use it a lot, the battery will drain. You can try using a different CPU governor (lulzactive, smartassv2, etc. in custom kernels) to improve battery life or just use powersave (which decreases performance but improves battery life). You also have to account for the huge screen which is OLED, not LCD. With an LCD (like the iPhone 4 has) there is an array of white LED's that illuminate the screen. There's probably 8 or so of them. The LCD glass is a color filter which colors the white light from the backlight. The LCD itself uses little power, and the LED backlight only has 8 or so LED's. The Note uses an AMOLED screen (Active-Matrix Organic LED) in which each individual pixel is four independent LED's (RGBG). They're small LED's and use little power on their own, but you have 1280x800x4 of them (well, not quite due to the pentile arrangement staggering pixels). When they're all on (white screens) it uses a lot of power, especially when brightness is up. On the plus side, when they're all off (dark screens) they use much less power. To save power on an AMOLED, use a darker background/theme.
As for RAM usage, the Note has 1GB and you really don't need to worry about checking it. Android manages RAM very well, especially when it has 1GB to work with. When you leave an app in Android it isn't closed, merely pushed back in an application stack. Only when Android determines that RAM is filling up does it start removing stale apps from this stack.
Personally I've used my Note with many different cables without issue. The included Samsung charger and cable work very well, and I think has the most solid connection of all of them, but I've had success with a cord from my Archos media player as well as my HP TouchPad tablet. The TouchPad's wall charger also gives a slight charging boost as it provides more power (2A vs. 1A) but the Note's highest charge rate is around 1.1A so you don't see a huge difference. It does need a bit more than a standard 500mA USB port provides, so if you plan to charge it off your PC or a 500mA charger, you need to turn off the screen and leave it off, otherwise the screen will eat up the power, leaving none for the battery.
My favorite ROM is CyanogenMod 9. This is a built-from-scratch (Google's source + modifications) ROM that includes a lot of nice features while retaining the stock Android look and feel. I personally do not like TouchWiz or the customizations that Samsung added to their Note ROMs but many people do. It's all about personal preference. A nightly build means that a new release of the ROM is posted (usually by an automated system) every night. This is what CyanogenMod uses for most devices, as their project has many developers and is constantly updating. You don't need to update every day, but a nightly ROM means that you always have access to the latest updates if you want them.
As for the flash counter, I would warranty the phone before flashing a custom ROM. I generally don't take warranty into account on my tech purchases because with all the hacking I do it's often void, but usually if you restore the stock firmware they will fix hardware issues obviously not caused by your ROM flashing..
Thank you all for the quick replies.
Regarding the cable, I've come across this on amazon - /gp/product/B007JZGO6S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=AR2TEZS0WRV7S
Good to buy?
@Ph0n3D0rk - Thank you. Due to the short battery life I've been experiencing, I always use my phone on brightness all the way down with "Automatic Brightness" option turned off. I only have 200 MB per month data, so wifi's the only way to go . I've been looking into extra (or extended batteries); maybe soon. I read into Milestone 6; seems pretty interesting. I might give it a go (maybe when I get the replacement). I'll private message you about it.
@JB calhoun - Thank you. I've started looking into different kinds of ROMs. Is it possible to try out 2 different types or ROMs at the same time? What I mean is that say if I install CM9, then I want to try Milestone 6; will I have to remove CM9 to try Milestone 6? Also, does installing a new ROM every time (almost all instructions say to do a "Wipe data/factory reset") means all my data (on the phone ofcourse and not on the SD card) will be lost? I'm mainly worried about my text messages and whatsapp conversations (I think all other data settings are saved by Google, and reapplied once the app is installed back again, right?)
@SkyStars - Thank you. I tried using BetterBatteryStats, but I have no idea what I'm looking for. Should I be looking at Processes, Partial Wakelocks, Other or Kernel Wakelocks; and then what in these? I've heard a lot about CyagnogenMod. When you say it does not support S-pen, does it mean that the phone has no use for it at all? Can we still maneuver the screen with it, or take screenshots? Or does it just stop working? So, I should stay away from flashing the counter? My counter (I think) right now says 4.
@welchertc - Thank you. I found out about keeping a black wallpaper to decrease battery use a few weeks ago; I've had a black wallpaper since. I'll remove useless apps, then lets see what happens. Is the link I provided in the beginning ok, or should I search for something else? I was wondering about killed apps popping up after some time (Facebook for example). I have email sync turned off. I've been trying to turn off sync for a few apps, but some of them dont give me such an option (eg. The Drudge Report). I have started looking for some ROMs. But I ask you the same question I asked JB about ROMs - Can I have only 1 ROM at a time? And, will have to erase everything every single time? The warranty problem's the same with Apple. Just like you said, it seems to be the same with Apple - just reinstall the stock iOS, and you're ready to go (I had my iPhone changed after I went back to stock from a jailbroken firmware after it also developed battery issues; the new phone I received was brilliant in the battery department). I think my counter is up to 4.
@spade1031 - Thank you. Milestone 6 is an AOKP release. I'll look into the other releases you've mentioned as well. I've been using the Go Launcher because I tried AWD, and didnt like it. Any other nice ones out there? (But maybe I wont need them after a ROM install).
@CalcProgrammer1 - Thank you for the very informative and in-depth writing. What exactly is a CPU governor? If it is what I think it is, then I think I used one back when AT&T hadnt rolled out ICS, and I had (somehow) rooted the older version. I installed an app (dont remember the name) that basically let me create profiles in which I could set the max and min CPU usages; is that it? So I shouldnt worry about closing apps using any witget? The reason I ask is because the phone tends to get a bit slugish when a lot of apps are open, and available RAM (as shown on Go Taskmanger is around ~75 MB). I'll try not closing any apps from now on and note the difference. If I do go with CyanogenMod, what exactly will I be losing in terms of TouchWiz? I have flashed before (tried ICS before it officially came out), so my flash now is at 4. Should I take a chance and turn it in as is and see if they still change it; or should I try flashing the counter before turning it in?
Once again, thanks everyone for the replies.
tutusinghsohi said:
Thank you all for the quick replies
@spade1031 - Thank you. Milestone 6 is an AOKP release. I'll look into the other releases you've mentioned as well. I've been using the Go Launcher because I tried AWD, and didnt like it. Any other nice ones out there? (But maybe I wont need them after a ROM install).
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Dude your gonna hate me but this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538926
Best launcher for the Note? Has a ton of info.. most people will still use a custom launcher after a Rom but it is all personal pref. I like apex (got the paid version) nova isn't bad but not for me... I'm now playing with sslauncher, like this as landscape and portrait can be set 2 different ways and has text icons built in and also NO GRID you have to follow for the icons
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Dude your gonna hate me but this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538926
Best launcher for the Note? Has a ton of info.. most people will still use a custom launcher after a Rom but it is all personal pref. I like apex (got the paid version) nova isn't bad but not for me... I'm now playing with sslauncher, like this as landscape and portrait can be set 2 different ways and has text icons built in and also NO GRID you have to follow for the icons
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Thanks a lot for the link.. I'm going through the thread now..
Go Launcher is alright (for now) because of all the widgets they make.. They turn out pretty crappy when used with other launchers..
Just tried Nova Launcher. Seemed good, but I think I've gotten used to Go Launcher.. But I will definitely make a switch soon..
Also, one of the very first replies to the thread you posted about suggests overclocking. Will I be able to do that when installing custom ROMs?
Regarding how to read Better Battery Stats, the developer of the app is very active on xda and you can actually get help reading the logs from the app on the app thread on xda.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Make sure you read the OP to see how to post the logs and also it'll give you insight into how to understand what the app is telling you.
tutusinghsohi said:
@welchertc - Thank you. I found out about keeping a black wallpaper to decrease battery use a few weeks ago; I've had a black wallpaper since. I'll remove useless apps, then lets see what happens. Is the link I provided in the beginning ok, or should I search for something else? I was wondering about killed apps popping up after some time (Facebook for example). I have email sync turned off. I've been trying to turn off sync for a few apps, but some of them dont give me such an option (eg. The Drudge Report). I have started looking for some ROMs. But I ask you the same question I asked JB about ROMs - Can I have only 1 ROM at a time? And, will have to erase everything every single time? The warranty problem's the same with Apple. Just like you said, it seems to be the same with Apple - just reinstall the stock iOS, and you're ready to go (I had my iPhone changed after I went back to stock from a jailbroken firmware after it also developed battery issues; the new phone I received was brilliant in the battery department). I think my counter is up to 4.
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To turn off all auto syncing, like I do, Just go into accounts and sync under settings and there should be one box or slier to uncheck to turn off all auto syncing. You can also leave it on and configure your individual accounts such as email, twitter, and facebook to sync automatically or not. =]
And yes, you can only truly run one ROM at a time. You could make a nandroid of one ROM, flash another and configure it, then nandroid the second once you have it set up, then keep restoring those two nandroids every time you want to switch. Although that is pretty ineffective if you like to keep switching things up on your homescreens, as the nandroids stay exactly the same.
You also don't need to erase everything per se. All of your pictures and stuff are a good idea to backup, to your computer or an sd card, if you're flashing a rom that requires a full wipe. Your apps and app data will be wiped, so definitely buy titanium backup pro if you haven't already, as that will allow you to restore all of your apps between flashes. Also, there are various sms backup apps, though I've never used one so I can't recommend any. email you can obviously resync quite easily, same with contacts once you have them all synced to your gmail account. Other than that, about the only thing you can't restore afaik is exactly how you have your homscreens/wallpaper setup.
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4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
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There is really only like 3-4 unique roms in there. The majority of them are peoples themed versions one of those.
CM9 is by far the smoothest but I am having problems with GAPPs 7/19 build. Im currently running AOSPxXx until I can sort out the GAPPs issues Im having.
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Thanks a lot for the link.. I'm going through the thread now..
Go Launcher is alright (for now) because of all the widgets they make.. They turn out pretty crappy when used with other launchers..
Just tried Nova Launcher. Seemed good, but I think I've gotten used to Go Launcher.. But I will definitely make a switch soon..
Also, one of the very first replies to the thread you posted about suggests overclocking. Will I be able to do that when installing custom ROMs?
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To be honest I tried overclocking only once am I was on a super light weight Rom, with that I didn't see much improvement but I have noticed the people do see am improvement are also using bigger Rom s. Again I'm sure you will see this many times more you are on here "flash it and find out" the reason is no one has done every combo out there. But over clicking will help at times just keep in mind your not happy with the battery now? And your gonna run your phone harder? Lol
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Just wondering how it going? Get your new phone? Flash anything? If so what and what do you think of it?
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My two words of advice is
1. Get extra batteries/wall charger I bought 3 batteries and charger for like 12 bucks
2. Get cm9 its amazing
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My personal impression regarding Go launcher is that its very complete (widgets included) but for my experience its a heavy battery drainer so unfortunately i had to uninstall it
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Hello guys.. I'm a flashaholic.
The reason i'm here, is because i've just realized, that i haven't had my quick fix for some time now..
Everything seems so stable, except the *mic* issue, but hey, i fixed it with a hands-free.. Otherwise, i'm very happy with my phone, it works, it doesn't use up that much battery, and it doesn't crash, you can even do normal stuff to it.
But to the point.. I really, REALLY miss AOSP, especially the theming.
I can live with the occasional bugs, though i wish it could be at least somewhat stable.. *You know, im not that picky*.
But the one thing that keeps me from using AOSP; is the camera app from Sony, because i like taking pictures of my son, and the environment..
Are there any Camera app out there comparable to the Sony equivalent?
Oh, the urge..
Shidapu said:
Hello guys.. I'm a flashaholic.
The reason i'm here, is because i've just realized, that i haven't had my quick fix for some time now..
Everything seems so stable, except the *mic* issue, but hey, i fixed it with a hands-free.. Otherwise, i'm very happy with my phone, it works, it doesn't use up that much battery, and it doesn't crash, you can even do normal stuff to it.
But to the point.. I really, REALLY miss AOSP, especially the theming.
I can live with the occasional bugs, though i wish it could be at least somewhat stable.. *You know, im not that picky*.
But the one thing that keeps me from using AOSP; is the camera app from Sony, because i like taking pictures of my son, and the environment..
Are there any Camera app out there comparable to the Sony equivalent?
Oh, the urge..
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I have the same urge, I wanna get the full output from my Xperia Z2, feel all those four cores working in my hand. But that one Sony Camera app stops me because it's beautiful. It's matchless. That's the only reason I'm not changing my ROM and be bound to what Sony's put in my phone.
I am in the same boat here! I want to flash PA so bad especially with all their features but then the camera app, the noise cancelling features and x-reality etc is really stopping me from doing so
i use to be in the same boat before i noticed there is no point to flashing roms when im on a rom which does what i want
perhaps you should find a rom which has what you want
Same here.I literally used to flash a new ROM on my Nexus 5 everyday. As has been said though, the stock Z2 ROM does everything I want it to and rooted with some xposed mods its perfect.I just have to learn to live with my phone the way most other people do.
just a note
formatting then writing a rom to your system slows your device ALOT, it also cause alot of other issues but that comes after long wear n tear
Envious_Data said:
just a note
formatting then writing a rom to your system slows your device ALOT, it also cause alot of other issues but that comes after long wear n tear
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Does this include doing a clean install? I mean doing clean install also slows the system? I've done clean install (re-install the stock Sony Z2 ROM) for 3 times till now. (Via Sony PC Companion)
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Does this include doing a clean install? I mean doing clean install also slows the system? I've done clean install (re-install the stock Sony Z2 ROM) for 3 times till now. (Via Sony PC Companion)
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included:
repair via sony pc companion
firmware upgrade
flashing custom rom
flashing ftf via flashtool
flashing via emma
all of those wear bout the same, its a matter of which one you do the most
in this case, flashing custom roms is this one
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included:
repair via sony pc companion
firmware upgrade
flashing custom rom
flashing ftf via flashtool
flashing via emma
all of those wear bout the same, its a matter of which one you do the most
in this case, flashing custom roms is this one
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But I've done clean install via Sony PC Companion for 3 times now... So does this mean my phone isn't as fast as the day I bought it? Even though I've installed a clean ROM?
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But I've done clean install via Sony PC Companion for 3 times now... So does this mean my phone isn't as fast as the day I bought it? Even though I've installed a clean ROM?
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minor signs should show about 25th time to my experiance
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minor signs should show about 25th time to my experiance
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I remember reading somewhere years ago that flashing new firmware over and over will eventually wear out the hardware and cause it to slow down/eventually fail. I can't seem to find anything for this when searching though! Would it be possible for you to shed some light on what I should be searching for or what causes this issue?
Thanks in advance!
Devzz said:
I remember reading somewhere years ago that flashing new firmware over and over will eventually wear out the hardware and cause it to slow down/eventually fail. I can't seem to find anything for this when searching though! Would it be possible for you to shed some light on what I should be searching for or what causes this issue?
Thanks in advance!
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there is something called read/write cycle life
you can only write info so many times onto a disk before it wears out and stops working
formatting a partition takes a huge amount of cycles, installing roms does the same too because its alot of data that has to write
some info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
Envious_Data said:
there is something called read/write cycle life
you can only write info so many times onto a disk before it wears out and stops working
formatting a partition takes a huge amount of cycles, installing roms does the same too because its alot of data that has to write
some info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
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Cheers for the reply! From what I read on the link, it says most flash memory have a P/E cycle of around 100,000 and from what I can remember, it varies depending on the type/quality of the flash memory used (Nexus 7 2012 had rubbish flash memory which a lot of people complained about). Just going off an assumption that the Z2 has a P/E cycle of 100,000, wouldn't it take quite a lot of ROM flashes before the memory deteriorates? Or is it more due to the size of the data being written/erased than the amount of times it is being done?
Sorry for the questions, I know this isn't the thread for it but it is interesting to me!
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Cheers for the reply! From what I read on the link, it says most flash memory have a P/E cycle of around 100,000 and from what I can remember, it varies depending on the type/quality of the flash memory used (Nexus 7 2012 had rubbish flash memory which a lot of people complained about). Just going off an assumption that the Z2 has a P/E cycle of 100,000, wouldn't it take quite a lot of ROM flashes before the memory deteriorates? Or is it more due to the size of the data being written/erased than the amount of times it is being done?
Sorry for the questions, I know this isn't the thread for it but it is interesting to me!
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I used to flash a lot roms everyday on various devices. I didn't notice any side effects of it. As I know a little about hardware there is nothing to fear. You can imagine than one memory cell is one bit of data. If it withstands 100 000 writes it literally means that you can save data (eg. flash rom on it) 100 000 times. There is no way that you can cross this number even with everyday flashing. And it doesn't matter how much data we are writing because each memory cell deteriorates individually, so if we write on 1000 cells it means that every cell will deteriorate only by one write operation which means every cell will still be able to be written 99 999 times.
Another thing is that the storage memory in smartphones is usually one chip which means that all your data including /system partition (which you overwrite during rom flashing) and your photos and music on /data are on one physical device. The conclusion is that if you are afraid of rom flashing and wiping you should also be afraid of saving photos to internal memory. And since we are using our int. memory and change files placed on it a lot it means that we can flash roms as we please without consequences.
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I used to flash a lot roms everyday on various devices. I didn't notice any side effects of it. As I know a little about hardware there is nothing to fear. You can imagine than one memory cell is one bit of data. If it withstands 100 000 writes it literally means that you can save data (eg. flash rom on it) 100 000 times. There is no way that you can cross this number even with everyday flashing. And it doesn't matter how much data we are writing because each memory cell deteriorates individually, so if we write on 1000 cells it means that every cell will deteriorate only by one write operation which means every cell will still be able to be written 99 999 times.
Another thing is that the storage memory in smartphones is usually one chip which means that all your data including /system partition (which you overwrite during rom flashing) and your photos and music on /data are on one physical device. The conclusion is that if you are afraid of rom flashing and wiping you should also be afraid of saving photos to internal memory. And since we are using our int. memory and change files placed on it a lot it means that we can flash roms as we please without consequences.
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Thanks for the thorough explanation. I had my suspicions this would be the case and you've driven it home by explaining the whole music/data/pictures scenario. I used to flash PA and other roms on my N4 more often than I care to count but I never once saw a decrease in performance so it's good to know (personally and for others) the phone's read/write performance is not going to be realistically affected! :highfive:
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minor signs should show about 25th time to my experiance
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I've flashed previous android devices ( HTC magic / Desire HD / SGS 3) 100+ times each with no obvious slow down, my albeit limited understanding was that NAND chips where rated for 100k+ P/E cycles?
ghostofcain said:
I've flashed previous android devices ( HTC magic / Desire HD / SGS 3) 100+ times each with no obvious slow down, my albeit limited understanding was that NAND chips where rated for 100k+ P/E cycles?
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Correct from the wiki link provided a few posts ago:
"Most commercially available flash products are guaranteed to withstand around 100,000 P/E cycles before the wear begins to deteriorate the integrity of the storage.[21] Micron Technology and Sun Microsystems announced an SLC NAND flash memory chip rated for 1,000,000 P/E cycles on 17 December 2008"