Looks like I'll be keeping my s2 longer than I thought. One of my main criticisms of it is battery life. Currently < 4 hours screen time is normal for me (actually pretty good as other roms were struggling to get 3 at times).
How much actual difference does it make? I'm not interested in tweaking voltages or under or over clocking btw, as tried all that and they introduce their own set of problems IMO. On paper the difference is only about 20% but I've heard some say it makes more difference than the paper figures would suggest?
Improved battery life would solve one of the phones main limitations for me.
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Yes it will make difference. How much depends on your use.
If you unplug at say 8 am and your phone dies at 5 pm, this bump will get you pass 8 pm.
Less than 3 hours?!!!
I use mine virtually all nite at work (9 hour shift), I watch a movie, flash new ROM's, surf, text, you name it........ and I've not a yet ran out thru the nite!!
And then I charge it for about an hour or so before finishing, and again when I come back the following nite, before it all starts again!!
That's why I said, depends on use, and therefore put an example.
Should not be taken literally.
Yes. Been using one for > 6 mths & definitely better than stock battery (obviously, as you'd expect). How much difference does it make ? Approximately 20% I've found over an average period of 'mixed' (within a charge light/moderate/heavy usage) use (again as you'd expect given 2000mAh is a bit over 20% > than 1650mAh). More difference than the paper figures would suggest ? Lots of people on XDA make all kinds of outrageous/ridiculous claims about lots of things (battery calibration anyone ? ). I'll leave it at that.
I guess I was lucky as my I9100P came as standard with a 2000mAh battery.
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Stop that.
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Stop trying to bump up your post count.
Thanks for the replies. Roughly a 20% increase as you may expect I guess.
My phone is currently on 9.5 hours on battery, and 1 hr 54 screen time. Current battery level is 32%. This is typical / decent for me! Not spectacular!
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tameracingdriver said:
Looks like I'll be keeping my s2 longer than I thought. One of my main criticisms of it is battery life. Currently < 4 hours screen time is normal for me (actually pretty good as other roms were struggling to get 3 at times).
How much actual difference does it make? I'm not interested in tweaking voltages or under or over clocking btw, as tried all that and they introduce their own set of problems IMO. On paper the difference is only about 20% but I've heard some say it makes more difference than the paper figures would suggest?
Improved battery life would solve one of the phones main limitations for me.
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Getting these extended batteries doesn't really help alot. You need a good kernel and ROM combination to get the best battery life.
If you're using ICS, Get Fluxi XX Kernel. Resurrection Remix and Fluxi will vastly improve your battery life. With heavy use, I can get 12-odd hours out of my battery. You also need a good modem because crap modems are battery hogs.
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Tried fluxxi on CM9, at best it was no better than my current ROM, probably worse in fact.
Sammy ROM all the way for me, I get the fewest bugs and smoothest running.
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Tried fluxxi on CM9, at best it was no better than my current ROM, probably worse in fact.
Sammy ROM all the way for me, I get the fewest bugs and smoothest running.
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Try NeatROM, it's a high performance, battery friendly version of Sammy rom
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I tried the 2000mah battery and didnt notice any big difference from my original battery...
For me it was a waste of money...
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Try NeatROM, it's a high performance, battery friendly version of Sammy rom
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I've looked at that ROM, and although it looks nice enough, I don't see any compelling reason to change the one I'm using, which, although it doesn't seem spectacular on battery life, is actually as good as most other ROMs I've used (and certainly better for me than the likes of CM9).
I've tried the whole undervolting / clocking, and just end up with a device that runs more "choppy" than as standard, and that annoys me more than having slightly iffy battery life.
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I tried the 2000mah battery and didnt notice any big difference from my original battery...
For me it was a waste of money...
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Well I thought about this yesterday, basically from 100% to about 5% the phone lasted about 15 hours, and with just under 3 hours of screen time.
If I kept the configuration of the phone the same, I'd be getting approx 30 minutes extra screen time and about an extra 3 hours of standby time.
Realistically, it doesn't seem worth it. I'll probably just do what I do now and if I know that I will need the phone later in the evening, just keep it plugged into my USB cable at work when I'm not using, and, if necessarily, take my charger with me. Its not really a big deal.
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I've looked at that ROM, and although it looks nice enough, I don't see any compelling reason to change the one I'm using, which, although it doesn't seem spectacular on battery life, is actually as good as most other ROMs I've used (and certainly better for me than the likes of CM9).
I've tried the whole undervolting / clocking, and just end up with a device that runs more "choppy" than as standard, and that annoys me more than having slightly iffy battery life.
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You don't need undervolting/clocking to get good battery life. You just need a good kernel. My device isn't choppy at all and I've got my max clock speed set at 1.3 and I'm really happy with my battery life.
If you don't like the look of NeatROM, try Resurrection Remix, which Fluxi or N.E.A.K kernel.
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You don't need undervolting/clocking to get good battery life. You just need a good kernel. My device isn't choppy at all and I've got my max clock speed set at 1.3 and I'm really happy with my battery life.
If you don't like the look of NeatROM, try Resurrection Remix, which Fluxi or N.E.A.K kernel.
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Thats just it though, I've tried Fluxxi (on CM9), Siyah, Redpill (back in the GB days) and probably others I've forgotten about. I find them much of a muchness.
I'm always amazed at the figures some people get mind. Its a bit like MPG in cars, in certain cars, I never seem able to match what other people get in the same cars even by being really careful!
Edit: Are you a fellow geordie then or are you from the "other" newcastle?
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Thats just it though, I've tried Fluxxi (on CM9), Siyah, Redpill (back in the GB days) and probably others I've forgotten about. I find them much of a muchness.
I'm always amazed at the figures some people get mind. Its a bit like MPG in cars, in certain cars, I never seem able to match what other people get in the same cars even by being really careful!
Edit: Are you a fellow geordie then or are you from the "other" newcastle?
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Try these settings with Fluxi, xxTweaker - Conservative settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691129
Right now, even with 4 hours screen time and heavy use, my battery is at 54%.
I'm from Newcastle upon Tyne, fellow Geordie
Try Portal Rom with battery 2000 mah almost 3 day with 5 h screen
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Looks like I'll be keeping my s2 longer than I thought. One of my main criticisms of it is battery life. Currently < 4 hours screen time is normal for me (actually pretty good as other roms were struggling to get 3 at times).
How much actual difference does it make? I'm not interested in tweaking voltages or under or over clocking btw, as tried all that and they introduce their own set of problems IMO. On paper the difference is only about 20% but I've heard some say it makes more difference than the paper figures would suggest?
Improved battery life would solve one of the phones main limitations for me.
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An old thread I know, but somebody might find this useful.
There are 2000mAh batteries on eBay (for example) that are the same physical size as the standard battery. In fact these are just 1650mAh batteries with a different label. There are also genuine 2000mAh batteries that are slightly thicker (and more expensive and come with different battery covers) that should logically give 17.5% more life as (2000 - 1650) / 1650 = 0.175. I haven't tested one myself but this seems to match the 20% extra that others have mentioned.
My solution was to buy a battery charger and 3 spare batteries from eBay plus a retractable USB charging/data lead (all very cheap). These batteries are labelled 1800mAh but I doubt they are - they last no longer than the original 1650mAh one, but they were cheap so who cares?
When I'm at work I plug my phone into my PC if it needs it and when I'm driving I always charge it in the car cradle. If I don't have the opportunity (or forget) to charge it and the battery gets very low then I simply slap a full battery in and recharge the flat one. Changing batteries is quick and easy if you discard the nasty standard battery cover and use a Samsung mesh or Casemate case to hold the battery in and protect the phone. Works for me.
Definitely worth it, I have had one for a few months now. Stick with OEM tho! Got mine for $25 USD shipped through eBay. Had to hunt for weeks to find that and the seller was sold out in a day or 2.
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Definitely worth it, I have had one for a few months now. Stick with OEM tho! Got mine for $25 USD shipped through eBay. Had to hunt for weeks to find that and the seller was sold out in a day or 2.
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How can paying over 5 times more for 20% extra battery life possibly be worth it? The cheapest 1650mAh battery on ebay.com is currently $4.99 with free shipping. Samsung OEM batteries perform no better than cheap knock-offs in my experience.
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The Galaxy S III unit is certainly big enough. When they said they would improve the battery life on their next Galaxy, I was thinking at least 2,300 mAh. A small gripe, but something to be desired.
I can't complain with 7 hours of screen on time..
How long do you need your phone to last? A bigger battery would always be nice but I'm definitely not complaining. I average around 4-5 hours of screen on time from one charge on complete stock with good brightness. Do we really need more?
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The battery is very good..it`s a smartphone not a nokia 3310
MrIwik said:
How long do you need your phone to last? A bigger battery would always be nice but I'm definitely not complaining. I average around 4-5 hours of screen on time from one charge on complete stock with good brightness. Do we really need more?
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The question is, do we really need less? There's already small 4.3" display phones that run over 3,000 mAh. With the size of this unit, they simply could have taken to task their claim of wanting to improve battery life a little more sufficiently. The more powerful these devices get, the more demanding their battery life is.
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The battery is very good..it`s a smartphone not a nokia 3310
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lol do i miss the days of nokia..my battery used to last almost 4 days. but alas all good things come to an end..its the era of android now nokia iphone and the rest are just old news
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The question is, do we really need less? There's already small 4.3" display phones that run over 3,000 mAh. With the size of this unit, they simply could have taken to task their claim of wanting to improve battery life a little more sufficiently. The more powerful these devices get, the more demanding their battery life is.
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The DROID RAZR also has a non-removable battery which probably contributes to that.
Removable or not, it's still been done. I'm not saying this phone should go 3,000+ mAh; as that would sacrifice body thinness, but they probably had more to work with that they didn't utilize.
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Removable or not, it's still been done. I'm not saying this phone should go 3,000+ mAh; as that would sacrifice body thinness, but they probably had more to work with that they didn't utilize.
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Possibly, but apparently the general population cares more about thin devices than battery life.
Either way, I'm generally not going to use the phone for 7 hours everyday so it makes no difference to me.
Honestly, I expected less than what I am getting from the battery life, so I am more than happy. You also have to remember, battery life is a big selling point for the next models. I am certain they could have easily tweaked the design/battery and given this phone another 10+ hours standby or something like that, but that limits the sales features for the next model. You want to make your new device good but not so good that the next new model doesn't seem as impressive.
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Honestly, I expected less than what I am getting from the battery life, so I am more than happy.
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Same. I've been using mine plenty today since 7 in the morning (can't call it heavy usage, but definitely was not "light") and it still has over 60% (its now the end of the day here). Couldn't be happier with the battery.
Well... obviously I could, but I definitely can't complain.
I wish mine was gd too.. but kworker processes are draining my battery life yet no ideas how do resolve yet...
I get 11 hours at 60% yesterday, so that's excellent on stock Rom with all the bloat, sure cm9 Rom at same hours and same use was still 86% and I always leave bt gps wifi and full brightness always on
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Removable or not, it's still been done. I'm not saying this phone should go 3,000+ mAh; as that would sacrifice body thinness, but they probably had more to work with that they didn't utilize.
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Probably Samsung will bring an extended battery(+modified back cover) just like they did with the sgs2... having said that I have no problems the battery life with the stock battery
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Don't forget The SGS3 battery is 3.8v, whereas the SGS2 battery is 3.7. If you look at the watt hours, SGS3 is just under 8, where as stock 1650mah battery is just over 6. 33% increase in batter size!
I'm rooted and running stock Vodafone rom (OTA update), but I've frozen a lot of the rubbish (and installed siyah kernel!). I'm getting very good battery life with 3-5 hours of screen on. Basically, it's not ever once not "got me through the day", even when I first got the phone and I was abusing it.
Standby times could be slightly better, and there are some other issues that are draining battery (fast dormency is a pain in da ass!!), but considering the SGS3 is fresh out the battery life is amazing!
When I use the internet I'm using about 12% of the battery per hour which is pretty damn good and fairly close to S2 so I've got no complaints, and the last update made a noticeable improvement on battery, but the only real complaint is the battery takes over 2 and a half hours to charge so more than ever I do need a spare battery for those times I get caught short on charge.
I noticed a big improvement in battery life with the stock rom I9300XXALF6 + modem I9300XXLF5. Using only for calls, on average, by 10 hours consumes 10% of the battery.
This battery is big and enough for day to day use but when i want to watch some episodes I'm always carrying a backup charger.
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I noticed a big improvement in battery life with the stock rom I9300XXALF6 + modem I9300XXLF5. Using only for calls, on average, by 10 hours consumes 10% of the battery.
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Some here - 1 hour/1% with moderate use (a few calls, messages, random goofing). (att, stock rom, int. version, sync off, auto brightness)
Im quite satisfied, battery is like just as i expected
I tried Vigor360, and though I hate Sense, it was.. okay...except battery life was worse than on my Thunderbolt. I've tried flashing different kernels but more problems usually arrise out of the blue and I have NO CLUE which kernels are actually good , good as in they actually male an effort to improve the battery life. I'm currently on a CM9 ROM and holy hell! The keyboard lags and battery life is ATROCIOUS ! I haven't even hardly installed any apps!
I tried Newt's One XXX, v5.1.1 but couldn't stand the minor bugs, but I assume battery life on that ROM is way worse than on Vigor360 (since usually, the higher the version of Sense, the worse it is on the battery) when I had a galaxy Nexus, the picture quality was a joke, but I made it well through the day with it! I'm not getting an extended battery. The phone is thick enough -.-
My current usage is about 7 hours,an hour and a half of screen time, battery is at 7%. I can sort of stand sense 3.6 so long as it isn't theme. What ROM/kernel combo do you guys use to get through the day, or did I make a mistake getting this phone? (No offense)
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I tried Vigor360, and though I hate Sense, it was.. okay...except battery life was worse than on my Thunderbolt. I've tried flashing different kernels but more problems usually arrise out of the blue and I have NO CLUE which kernels are actually good , good as in they actually male an effort to improve the battery life. I'm currently on a CM9 ROM and holy hell! The keyboard lags and battery life is ATROCIOUS ! I haven't even hardly installed any apps!
I tried Newt's One XXX, v5.1.1 but couldn't stand the minor bugs, but I assume battery life on that ROM is way worse than on Vigor360 (since usually, the higher the version of Sense, the worse it is on the battery) when I had a galaxy Nexus, the picture quality was a joke, but I made it well through the day with it! I'm not getting an extended battery. The phone is thick enough -.-
My current usage is about 7 hours,an hour and a half of screen time, battery is at 7%. I can sort of stand sense 3.6 so long as it isn't theme. What ROM/kernel combo do you guys use to get through the day, or did I make a mistake getting this phone? (No offense)
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going to need some things from you:
1. are you s-on or off
2. what firmware are you on
3. do you like sense or aosp more
edit: 7 and 1/2 hours screen time. that is awesome for the REZ. the HD screen is what kills the battery the most. if you can get 7 hours then bravo.
He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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Wow!! The big reason I have this phone is.. well..
Had a Nexus, broke it and sold it for $75, relative let me use an iPhone 4... I lasted a week before caving and bought a Thunderbolt for $90.
I couldn't stand the ancient android OS and the phone was having random data drops, so I got Verizon to replace it with another thunderbolt. The replacement had the same issue + the vibrate motor decided when and when not to work. The guy on the phone was like "well, since you've had several replacements of this phone, we're gonna see about sending g you a different phone to resolve your issues once and for all, but the phone you receive won't come with a battery cover or battery." I told him I had a battery cover and battery for a Rezound and asked if that could be sent to me, he said "sure, we should be able to do that."
This phone killed my 32GB microSD card :'(
I have S-OFF. I prefer AOSP, but they seem get get home horrendous battery life.
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He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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didnt see that lol. sorry. work sucks today.
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I have S-OFF. I prefer AOSP, but they seem get get home horrendous battery life.
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newt's sense 4 roms are great on battery life. but when i moved to cm9 i now get about 18hours of life with a little under 5 hours screen on. im running rage 1.9.1.
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I tried Vigor360, and though I hate Sense, it was.. okay...except battery life was worse than on my Thunderbolt. I've tried flashing different kernels but more problems usually arrise out of the blue and I have NO CLUE which kernels are actually good , good as in they actually male an effort to improve the battery life. I'm currently on a CM9 ROM and holy hell! The keyboard lags and battery life is ATROCIOUS ! I haven't even hardly installed any apps!
I tried Newt's One XXX, v5.1.1 but couldn't stand the minor bugs, but I assume battery life on that ROM is way worse than on Vigor360 (since usually, the higher the version of Sense, the worse it is on the battery) when I had a galaxy Nexus, the picture quality was a joke, but I made it well through the day with it! I'm not getting an extended battery. The phone is thick enough -.-
My current usage is about 7 hours,an hour and a half of screen time, battery is at 7%. I can sort of stand sense 3.6 so long as it isn't theme. What ROM/kernel combo do you guys use to get through the day, or did I make a mistake getting this phone? (No offense)
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When asking for help you usually shouldn't trash every kernel/rom made available to us by our hard working devs. Also, your theory on the sense number being higher = higher battery usage is way false. Sense 4 & sense 4.1 were actually designed to decrease battery usage and lag so I would stick with one of those. Also, try underclocking your cpu and changing governors.
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He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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People need to stop judging battery life based on screen-on time and hours of use. It varies per person depending on how many accs/apps are syncing. I am tired of all this "better battery" and comparing usage time. If you want more battery, stop syncing on all apps/account. I wish people would stop posting screenshots of their usage. It just means they don't use their phone as much in terms of accs and apps running. Stock rom/kernel best for stability.
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People need to stop judging battery life based on screen-on time and hours of use. It varies per person depending on how many accs/apps are syncing. I am tired of all this "better battery" and comparing usage time. If you want more battery, stop syncing on all apps/account. I wish people would stop posting screenshots of their usage. It just means they don't use their phone as much in terms of accs and apps running. Stock rom/kernel best for stability.
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It might vary somewhat, but screen-on time and total time are still good yardstick level indicators of battery charge longevity. It's not like when you sync your google account your battery only lasts 1/3 as long - it's maybe a 10% difference, depending on your signal strength, if you're on wifi, etc.
Dr. Hax said:
Wow!! The big reason I have this phone is.. well..
Had a Nexus, broke it and sold it for $75, relative let me use an iPhone 4... I lasted a week before caving and bought a Thunderbolt for $90.
I couldn't stand the ancient android OS and the phone was having random data drops, so I got Verizon to replace it with another thunderbolt. The replacement had the same issue + the vibrate motor decided when and when not to work. The guy on the phone was like "well, since you've had several replacements of this phone, we're gonna see about sending g you a different phone to resolve your issues once and for all, but the phone you receive won't come with a battery cover or battery." I told him I had a battery cover and battery for a Rezound and asked if that could be sent to me, he said "sure, we should be able to do that."
This phone killed my 32GB microSD card :'(
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Try reformatting the sd card on your computer via a card reader.
Rage ROM 1.9.1 is a good ROM, nice and smooth. I got about 2 and a half hours of screen on time with that ROM and Snuzzos Funky Kernel. Very nice combination.
If you want to be real fancy you can build a CM10 ROM. There's a guide for it in the Dev section. (Well, the guide is to make CM9, but it's easy to modify the commands to make it build CM10 instead). I get about 3 hours and 15 mins of screen on time on average with the stock battery, no kernel modifications or anything fancy. Brightness is at 25%. I ran it with brightness on 100% for a day and got about 2 hrs and 15 mins of screen on time.
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People need to stop judging battery life based on screen-on time and hours of use. It varies per person depending on how many accs/apps are syncing. I am tired of all this "better battery" and comparing usage time. If you want more battery, stop syncing on all apps/account. I wish people would stop posting screenshots of their usage. It just means they don't use their phone as much in terms of accs and apps running. Stock rom/kernel best for stability.
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As much as you dislike this method of determining battery life, it is really the only way to gauge battery life on a forum. You are right that it also depends on apps syncing and such but a Rom that can get 12hrs with 3hrs screen time is more battery friendly than a Rom that can do that same12hrs but with 1.5hrs screen on time with the same setup and usage.
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How much battery account sync uses is dependent on just how popular you are we have push sync. This isn't Android 1.5 wen're talking about. Push sync uses very little battery.
And sure, I could build a CM10 ROM, but won't it basically be useless cause most things will be broken or barely working?
I've been running it as a daily driver since the 12th. It's surprisingly stable. No random FCs or anything. There are some graphical artifacts while watching streaming video like on YouTube and Project Butter isn't working, but it's still pretty smooth. Bluetooth calling isn't working either, but nor is it on AOSP ICS either. That's pretty much it for problems.
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And just to clarify, I'm not.dissing ROM's or developers, in fact, I'm going to admit, I'm a huge Newtoroot fanboy lol. Maybe its cause I've known of him since the Droid Incredible! But I've been running One XxX Rom for about a day now and battery life is still pretty bad, what are some good Sense kernels for battery life?
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And just to clarify, I'm not.dissing ROM's or developers, in fact, I'm going to admit, I'm a huge Newtoroot fanboy lol. Maybe its cause I've known of him since the Droid Incredible! But I've been running One XxX Rom for about a day now and battery life is still pretty bad, what are some good Sense kernels for battery life?
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Try snuzzo's 1.6rc2 kernel with it . I am on ecliptic Rom, but have run Newts and switched to that kernel on both. It's in his funky kernel thread.
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I have tried all the sense roms and Nilsp business sense 4.0 gives me the best battery life
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I have tried all the sense roms and Nilsp business sense 4.0 gives me the best battery life
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That's good. About average for a sense 4+ Rom
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SteveG12543 said:
Rage ROM 1.9.1 is a good ROM, nice and smooth. I got about 2 and a half hours of screen on time with that ROM and Snuzzos Funky Kernel. Very nice combination.
If you want to be real fancy you can build a CM10 ROM. There's a guide for it in the Dev section. (Well, the guide is to make CM9, but it's easy to modify the commands to make it build CM10 instead). I get about 3 hours and 15 mins of screen on time on average with the stock battery, no kernel modifications or anything fancy. Brightness is at 25%. I ran it with brightness on 100% for a day and got about 2 hrs and 15 mins of screen on time.
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how the heck are you guys getting these ridiculous screen on times with the stock battery?? the best ive ever gotten WITH AND EXTENDED BATTERY is like 3hr screen on time and ~13 hours unplugged with countershrikes AOSP and Funky Kernel
and no where near that with my stock battery
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how the heck are you guys getting these ridiculous screen on times with the stock battery?? the best ive ever gotten WITH AND EXTENDED BATTERY is like 3hr screen on time and ~13 hours unplugged with countershrikes AOSP and Funky Kernel
and no where near that with my stock battery
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I've been wondering that myself lol. I haven't done anything different; same apps, same sync settings, same display brightness, just the ROM + kernel is different. I'm not even undervolted like I was and I'm doing better than before lol... Must be the ROM/stock CM10 kernel I guess.
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http://www.amazon.com/Official-Capa...Note-Blue/dp/B008VPQIF2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_16
did a quick search and didnt find anyone post these yet... thinking about trying one out since its pretty cheap unless someone already has?
what u guys thnk?
I'd give it a try. Looks likes it is the same size as original so it would fit without a new back cover
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May u do a review on the battery?
Is that another fake 3450mah? Theoretically, it should give extra 38% battery life, however, even if it gives extra ~15% i will give it a try
I'm curious too.. Seems too good to be true
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If and when someone buys the battery, can we get a report whether it fits under the OEM battery cover and does it last 38% longer than the OEM battery?
For the price, I'm taking the plunge. I ordered it yesterday. It should arrive sometime next week. Once I get it I'll let you guys know if it's good or not.
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Ordered it on the day I saw the OP, got it delivered yesterday.
1. Yes, it fits in the stock I717 cover, without having to force anything. You can tell it's not a stock OEM battery, but it fits just fine.
2. Charged it to full capacity using a Samsung external charger (took an hour or so) and then started using it.
3. Off the bat, it appeared to keep a charge significantly better than my stock batteries, but I'm not sure how much of that was because it was just a newer battery vs the higher mAh.
4. Using the phone HEAVILY (flashed a ROM, a couple kernels, mods, etc, did a couple Nandroid backup/restores, ran the v6 SuperCharger script), I'd say I got about 20% better battery life. I'll have to go through a couple cycles on it and do some comparisons with Better Battery Stats, etc (under more "daily use" scenarios), in order to truly evaluate the difference.
My way-too-early conclusion:
A noticeable improvement in battery life, while not mind-blowing, was IMO absolutely worth the price (which isn't too bad)... especially since the boost in power doesn't come at the expense of a ridiculous extended back cover. I'd say don't claw over someone to get a hold of one, but if you were already thinking about adding a battery to the mix - I say go for it.
You need to be systematic with testing. It's not very useful to "use the phone like normal" when that varies a lot. For example, simply putting my phone on a different side of my desk will yield a different battery life because the cell signal changes by a bar or two.
To avoid this, I test by setting airplane mode, a specific brightness (usually brightest) and then playing a video on loop using the software decoder on the same version of video software. No standard sized battery will go past 4 hours in my experience.
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You need to be systematic with testing. It's not very useful to "use the phone like normal" when that varies a lot. For example, simply putting my phone on a different side of my desk will yield a different battery life because the cell signal changes by a bar or two.
To avoid this, I test by setting airplane mode, a specific brightness (usually brightest) and then playing a video on loop using the software decoder on the same version of video software. No standard sized battery will go past 4 hours in my experience.
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But that 4 hours is for CONTINUOUS use. The "test" he did reflects more of real life use, although it is not scientific.
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But that 4 hours is for CONTINUOUS use. The "test" he did reflects more of real life use, although it is not scientific.
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What you said doesn't actually say anything?
If the stock battery lasts 3.5 hours and the test battery lasts 4 hours under the same conditions then we know it's actually better. This will translate into real-life.
"Real Life Conditions" just means "didn't use it the same way" and cannot translate back into "worse case scenario". Placing my phone on the other side of my desk means I lose 15-20% more battery life over a workday.
You simply _must_ use the same conditions to actually be able to tell if it's better.
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But that 4 hours is for CONTINUOUS use. The "test" he did reflects more of real life use, although it is not scientific.
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Getting 15-20% more life from a NEW li-ion battery vs a used li-ion is not exactly shocking. The fact is, thinking that any third parties are going to achieve a greater power to mass ratio than OEM is pretty naive. Any battery the sane size as the Sammy battery being 2.5Ah or less is highly probable unless there's a change in battery technology.
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Just wanted to touch base again with an update...didn't mean to start a flame, just trying to report my results for anyone interested.
That said, my "continuous use" described above is (as much as I hate to admit) generally the norm, not the exception, with my usage habits. I used it just as I used the stock battery immediately prior, and I did notice the improvement. I didn't go to great lengths to make sure I eliminated every single variable for testing purposes, but it was one of those "I could just tell" type of things.
HOWEVER, at this point the new battery has been 4 or 5 cycles, and unfortunately is pretty much interchangeable with my other two stock batteries in terms of battery life. As I pondered in my first post, as well as being mentioned by someone above, it seems my improvement was probably just chalked up to the battery being significantly newer than the others. In fact, considering the older batteries have a good 8 months of age on this new battery, you could almost say that they're improving BETTER than the i9220 battery - considering the circumstances. Also I've noticed the battery can be prone to overheating at times of heavy use (more so than the stock battery). So take that FWIW I guess.
Hi, I have a problem with my Ace. When I only use 2G and use my phone for calls/sms, my battery lasts for like 3 days. But if i have 100% full battery and I use the internet with (or without 3G), my battery lasts for like half an hour, drains from full to 0 and then phone turns off. If i turn on my phone again, it shows like 30% or more battery left, but if data connection is still on, I lose 1 percent in like every second.
This is not only with data connections. I drained my battery from 100% to 0 in like 1,5 hours with just looking some pictures and using the calculator. I would like to think my battery is dead, but it lasts like 3 days when used for calls/sms only.
I have tried recalibrating my battery many times, used different ROMs (stock and custom), still same.
Is there anything else I could do to check my battery status??
Anyway, I am looking for a new battery but not the original one. Im looking from eBay. I contacted the sellers and asked for the weights. Original battery weighs like 30g. I got replied that these two (2050mAh High Capacity Replacement Battery for Samsung Galaxy S5830 and aoonen 2PK NEW Li-Ion Battery for Samsung S5830 Galaxy ACE 1800mAh fast shipping) batteries weigh 50g and 60g. This makes them less likely to be the fake gold ones, or what do u guys think? Has anyone bought one of those batteries? Or can anyone recommend a battery with more capacity than the original one (1350mah)
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I'm 100% sure that something is wrong with your battery.
I've never heard about such long-life battery in Galaxy Ace.
3 days calls and texting ?
It's normal that battery drains faster when using mobile data, but not that fast.
If You can, ask a friend to borrow You battery from Galaxy Ace.
If everything will be okay then You'll know the naswer.
If other battery won"t last longer, then i suggest to check you phone for "short circuit".
Maybe something is wrong with your motherboard that is connected with 3G .. ?
okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
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okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
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I believe so, they both use the same sized battery (1350 mAH, Li-ion Batteries)
Though I may be wrong someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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Hi
Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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My batter is two years old and it works good.
I use CM7 and no super widgets. Maybe it saves energy.
Try another ROM, remove or switch off everything You don't need.
Maybe it will help You. If not, it's time to buy another battery.
Don't ask which browser is the best, because we don't know what You need.
I need my browser to browse websites. I don't use favourites on mobile phone, so everyone is the best.
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Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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There's an app called "Battery Drain". Try charging your phone to 100%, turn on Battery Drain and select everything except Vibrate, and let us know how long it takes to fully discharge.
I have a stock battery, and it lasted ~3 hours.
Myth
Hi.
Nothing works in my ROM, most of apps are useless (all?)
Changed to LastMyth, after some days I'll be back to share the experience
try to delete the battery.stats
real myth
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try to delete the battery.stats
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Hello Jenson.
Sorry to desapoint you but de advantage of deleting battery stats is a Myth [not The Lastmyth] :cyclops:
See this
I re-installed ZDBox (old version) and helps a little, probably have to use a kernel
let's wait and see
For clearing ram Try Fastreboot
It's an app n will not run all time like other task killer apps and widgets
just click on icon it will clear ram
The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
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The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
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Hi, if you use search you'll find lots of information, such as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098513
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877831
everything is inconclusive, except that there are advantages to using the stock
I have tried many ways to calibrate it and my conclusion was that this broken.
I compare it with another and mine is somewhat swollen
New battery on the way
Wow, just too many variables! For instance.. Any idea how many mA the vibrator uses when typing with haptic feedback? What about the extra battery used by the radio when your in a poor reception area, does my micro-sd use more power than yours? Etc.
Battery life comparisons will only be meaningful in conditions where the battery is the only changed variable. So i would charge two or more batteries; discharge one, then another, measuring the times. Both batteries would need to be new unless you just want to compare something tired and worn with just out the factory.
Not 100% but I think it's relevant how many amps you take at a time, in relation to total capacity.. The chemical tech. may be difference, but lead-acid cells give differing amounts of charge dependent on temperature, and rate of discharge. In most applications capacity (C), is measured over 20 hours (C/20). C/100 will see many more amps capacity, and C/10, fewer! Also consider a used battery could last a considerable time, if only the high drain occasion is minimal. Something simple like the vibrator could send an old battery 'over the edge' if the drain is too high.
What does all this mean to me? Unless you wanna spend hours discharging your phone battery finding out (not really), get a fresh battery online; they still don't cost much and are easy to find. Gold batteries have been available for some time so go with your gut on that one! Perhaps, like me, you think it's worth the risk.
If you really love your phone and think you'll still be holding on to it in a couple of years time - you'll be thankfull you bought a spare battery or two while they were still cheap
Peace!
-mt-
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Hello, problems of battery are the most important in the management of smartphones increasingly sophisticated. I know of no silver bullet, so it makes sense to always have an alternate (note that battery life depends on time, even without use)
I found a small application, very cool, which is PowerTutor, which gives us interesting information from the battery usage. However'm with JuiceDefender Ultimate (free version exists). The only application which effectively spare battery was Greenpower. [all in gplay]
I hope I helped
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Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
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Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
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This is usually the fix. It's amazing how fast some batteries start failing. Old batteries and cold temperatures are usually the top cause of poor battery life, especially in secondhand phones.
Try Juice Defender :thumbup:
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I have been trying out various 4.4.x ROMs (CM, Resurrection Remix, SlimROM) and had varying levels of success but the one issue that I have had consistently with all of them on my SGS2 is battery. 4.4.x seems to devour my battery no matter which ROM I am using (and the different ROMS are using different kernels usual). CM11 has far and away been the most stable so I have stayed with that but it too as failed to resolve my battery issue. I have never had much luck with battery life before but half a day is ridiculous. I thought about trying a different kernel but not sure that would help as #1 I would think the CM team would know better than I what would be the optimal kernel and #2 I have been trying different kernels anyway when I have been trying different ROMS as I believe the different ROMS have all had different kernels. Has anyone else had this issue? More importantly has anyone had any luck resolving this?
I suggest you to replace your battery. Beaware from cheap ones!!! I have I9100 too, i also try many methods to increase my battery life but i reach maximum 10 hours. Then i buy new batteries. It is not original galaxy s2 batteries but i think better than the original one.(1800mAh buy from ebay) Now i use RR kit kat rom with stock kernel my mobile data is always on and I go to bed at %35 percent of batteries.
1. If your battery is quite old, replace it.
2. Check whether you are having any wakelocks. Does it go to deep sleep?
3. When you say battery life as half a day, what is your actual usage? Screen on time, Wi-Fi, 3g, calls etc?
4. Betterbatterystats and greenify are your friends.
ottoasd said:
I suggest you to replace your battery. Beaware from cheap ones!!! I have I9100 too, i also try many methods to increase my battery life but i reach maximum 10 hours. Then i buy new batteries. It is not original galaxy s2 batteries but i think better than the original one.(1800mAh buy from ebay) Now i use RR kit kat rom with stock kernel my mobile data is always on and I go to bed at %35 percent of batteries.
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Thanks. My battery is about 2.5 years old, its an Anker battery, 1900mAh that I bought on amazon (I honestly don't know what constitutes "old" for batteries, is 2 1/2 years old?). As for ROMS I was actually running an older version of RR but had serious stability issues (related to sdcard, never was able to resolve it) and battery wasn't great (better than now though) when I upgraded to the newest RR I had some lingering stability issues and battery issues too so just settled on CM11 this time.
banjara said:
1. If your battery is quite old, replace it.
Sorry, but what in your all's opinion makes for an "old" battery? 2, 3 years? or are we talking 4+ is there a way I could test my battery to see if it going bad perhaps?
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2. Check whether you are having any wakelocks. Does it go to deep sleep?
I am not totally clear on wakelocks and deep sleep, I have "Battery Stats" installed (guess its not the same as the betterbatteryapp but seems to give some similar info) but its not clear to me how to read it all. In this case it sayd the stat period is 3 hours 8 minutes and out of that it has been in deep sleep 1h 51m and running time 1h 17m and wifi time 1h 25m and my batter is down to 74%, I am assuming that is not normal? In terms of applications the hogs are defintely the two audio apps poweramp and dogcatcher (they are just at the top of the list, the numbers it gives don't really make sense to me)
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3. When you say battery life as half a day, what is your actual usage? Screen on time, Wi-Fi, 3g, calls etc?
Well I have a 3 hour idea of my usage above, I don't use 3 g, I have wifi on about a third of the day perhaps, and actualy screen time probably just an hour or two, I do use it quite a bit for podcasts and music though. But I had tried it with my audio apps uninstalled for a few days and it still drained fairly quickly.
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Will take a look, I kind of liked the battery stats option to compare to stats that others have uploaded, but I haven't checked out greenify.
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Thanks!
If your battery is 2.5 yrs old, that's almost certainly the cause of your issues. Good advice to stick to original Samsung batteries; though there's nothing wrong with the 2000mAh genuine Samsung battery Vs the 1650mAh one - I used one of these for almost two years.
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If your battery is 2.5 yrs old, that's almost certainly the cause of your issues. Good advice to stick to original Samsung batteries; though there's nothing wrong with the 2000mAh genuine Samsung battery Vs the 1650mAh one - I used one of these for almost two years.
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Doh, was hoping I wouldn't have to replace the battery. Actually... that said. Should a 2.5 year old mostly unused 1650mah samsung battery still be good? I think I still have the factory battery around somewhere now that I think about it. When I purchased the Anker battery I seemed to remember it was mainly for price and reputation reasons, not that the Samsung battery had such a bad reputation but the Anker had such a good reputation and a pretty good price.
I will give another battery a try if you say 2.5 years is old, but I do have to admit that the battery drain was not nearly as much of an issue with the older ROM I was using (RR 4.2.x) before, it wasn't stellar but not like this so it seems to me its more than just the batter thats giving me problems here.
Anyway, my phone is still golden other than the battery issues so if i can squeeze another year and a half out of it I'd be a happy camper. Any other thoughts would be welcome (and appreciated!)
Batteries discharge over time if they're stored/not used, ideally you should charge it up to/keep it at around 60-65% every few mths if you're going to store it for that long. If you've not touched it at all in that time, it might not be able to take/hold a charge anymore because that wasn't done.
Only way you're going to find out is if you charge it & use it.
Yeah, if you ended up getting 4 yrs out of a smartphone you'd be rather happy indeed.
If you really want to satisfy yourself as to whether it is indeed the age of the battery you're currently using causing your problems, do a clean install of stock & test that for a week. If it does the same thing with stock, you'll know for definite it is the battery. I'd be very surprised if it isn't though; they're not designed to last much longer than what you've had yours if you're charging/discharging constantly.
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Batteries discharge over time if they're stored/not used, ideally you should charge it up to/keep it at around 60-65% every few mths if you're going to store it for that long. If you've not touched it at all in that time, it might not be able to take/hold a charge anymore because that wasn't done.
Only way you're going to find out is if you charge it & use it.
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doh, yeah haven't touched it; and the life lessons continue (didn't know that about batteries). will try it out, if its gone its gone, lesson learned.
Yeah, if you ended up getting 4 yrs out of a smartphone you'd be rather happy indeed.
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Yeah, I suppose I am pretty easy to please, I don't do games and don't really do video and don't feel that my phone is particularly slow (yet) so so far happy enough
If you really want to satisfy yourself as to whether it is indeed the age of the battery you're currently using causing your problems, do a clean install of stock & test that for a week. If it does the same thing with stock, you'll know for definite it is the battery. I'd be very surprised if it isn't though; they're not designed to last much longer than what you've had yours if you're charging/discharging constantly.
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Thats a good idea, given what you've said i don't doubt that a large part of my problem is the battery (like I said before, with the older rom it was better but not stellar) do you know where I can find a stock rom nowadays? (sorry on the ROMS page they all seem to be custom roms, or perhaps i missed something?)
Thanks!
Stock roms @ Samfirmware, get one for your carrier/country (not 4.0.4 though, anything else is fine), if there's only 4.0.4 for your carrier/country, any other stock rom will do really -I just tell people to stick to carrier/country in the first instance as these have modems bundled with them that should have been tested by the carrier to give most people on their network good connectivity most of the time.
Or, Wanam has a thread in one of the development sections (I forget which; do a search or have a rummage around) that has CWM flashable stock roms if you'd prefer to do it that way; haven't had a look at the thread for a while so not sure if links are still live, but Wanam is a very active dev & I'd be surprised if he doesn't still have them hosted somewhere.
Does it drain more at a locationw where you use a certain Wifi?
I'm asking cause wlan-rx drains are know Android phones in big open Wifis as the phones get bombarded with signals from other computers/phones and are not filtered and keeps the phone awake.
Easiest way to find out is using Betterbatterystats.