I just wanted to get some input about what everyone thinks about the 3rd party development concerning these two phones. I currently have, and still love, my original Evo 4g. I have it rooted with CM7 installed.
I'm on Sprint, and I love being able to use the free wifi hotspot built into CM7 without paying a ton of money to sprint. I like having emulators and playing all my old favorite games on the TV.
The difference in the screens doesn't bother me much, but I figured the extra power of the GS3 would be very beneficial with the way I use the phone. On the other hand, I've heard custom mods and development aren't near as good with the GS3.
So the main question:
Should I go for the raw power of the GS3, or the more modding and developer friendly LTEVo? I really don't want to lose my free wifi hotspot... I use it all the time and I'm not sure if I can get it with the GS3.
The free hot spot you can get when you root with any phone, so that's a non issue.
My understanding is the phones are about the same, the galaxy has more RAM it seems, but the processor is about the same. You should consider build.quality. do you like how the EVO looks and feels or the Sammy? I don't like the plastic feel of the Samsung phones myself. It's a personal choice.
Also the front buttons on the galaxy are ugly, and u like dedicated camera button on the EVO. And kickstand.
sent from my EVO LTE
You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Sg3 had more RAM
sent from my EVO LTE
More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
tjkrz said:
My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm thinking the same but usually upgrades are a pain cause so many differences and carriers, I think sprint got the best track record with upgrades but maybe is because they don't have so many phones as Verizon and att, plus this time around the device is the same @ll over the us carriers so it should be easier, I'm getting the gs3 on tmobile since I already have tmobile but I'm keeping my EVO and wait for lte and the only thing that I hate about my EVO 3g doesn't cut it sometimes, when the evo came out I had not problems with 3g and that's all I used cause 4G will kill battery quick, to the op they both are great phones I think you should try the gs3 and if you prefer sense too much(even tho you said you like cm7) then get evo lte, btw development on the gs3 will be probably better then evo only because is the same phone in all major us carriers so all those developers will make roms for each on carrier and just changed radios and what not for the other carrier so it will be amazing and that was what Myn was talking about when he choose to get the GS3
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using Tapatalk 2
I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
Your decision should come down to maybe a handful of things. Probably the biggest knock against the Evo LTE is the battery. You have the freedom to access the S3's battery whenever you please without having to remove screws. For some people, that's a dealbreaker and they would shell out for the S3. Likewise, others would prefer the dedicated camera button.
At the end of the day, the decision is yours. I'm not really sure if I ever see myself buying a phone not made by HTC. Their products are simply amazing. I don't have anything against Samsung, it's just I love the three flagship Evos I have owned. I haven't found a reason to abandon them.
I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Im running cm9 on my Evo Lte now it's almost perfect no video camera yet. I think the SG 3 already has official cm support because Samsung already released source, HTC hasn't yet. Im pretty sure once source comes out the evo will get official support too. So to me it's which phone you like better, they're so close spec wise.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
ibleedbloo said:
I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
shook187 said:
You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
stellar said:
More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
chessmyantidrug said:
I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
-------------------------
I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
regalpimpin said:
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol that's a kick I'm the nuts, 2gb of ram!! AMD a small print disclaimer saying 1gb is to run touchwiz smoothly lol screw SG3
sent from my EVO LTE
nkchri2 said:
This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
-------------------------
I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hold your horses here...
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of these "more RAM=1337 ph0ne" comments that are parroted endlessly everywhere. No Android phone has ever had 2GB of RAM before... The bottom line is that its benefits remain to be seen. From what we do know, it really shouldn't help at all (given the way Android utilizes RAM). Maybe with Android 5 or 6 (lol) down the line? Who knows.
What I do know for sure right now is that RAM it will precisely 0 effect on its emulator performance. That all comes down to developer optimization for particular chipsets. At the level Android phone emulators are currently operating (not to mention the basic systems they're emulating), RAM is the last thing that will help. Now a future PS2 emulator might be a different story, although the S4 is not nearly powerful enough to run it at anywhere near acceptable levels.
Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
IMO the big difference to consider between these two phones is software, plain and simple.
How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
Sent from my EVO using XDA
regalpimpin said:
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wasn't trying to directly compare... I was just stated that for reference. As far as the extra ram being used up by touchwiz, then that just means there is one more huge reason to keep using Cyanogen like I am now. Goodbye touchwiz, hello extra 1Gb RAM!! Even if current emulators and apps can't take full advantage of the extra RAM, I think it still does make it more future proof than the LTEvo. And even if you can't unlock the other 1GB from touchwiz, it still will make the phone faster and less laggy with dedicated RAM for the UI.
As far as the benchmarks, I'm not really sure where you got that information. A link would be nice = D
I'm not a dead set fan of either phone. I have thoroughly enjoyed my original Evo. I just want to pick the better phone for how I want to use it. So far, I haven't seen anything to sway my choice towards the LTEvo. The better/removable battery and the extra RAM are pretty big.
-------------------------
So far from this post and more research, this is what I've found.
Evo 4g LTE:
- Looks like the rear facing camera is better
- Better display
- It's not all plastic
- Kickstand!
- Hardware camera button
- Doesn't rely on proprietary accessories (a la S3 MHL cable)
- Beats audio
Galaxy S3
- Extra RAM (even if it is dedicated to Touchwiz, that is just a big chunk less of the original 1GB being used for the UI, which means more free RAM)
- Same phone across all carriers, hopefully leading to more/easier 3rd party development
- More camera functions (continuous shooting / best shot)
- Removable battery
- Longer lasting battery
- 32 Gb option available
- .6 MP larger front facing camera
- Better multitasking than the LTEvo (no reloading)
- S-Voice
@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
Love Divine said:
Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sinfiery said:
How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I missed the two post concerning my comments on the battery life. The S3 having a way better battery was the wrong way of putting it I guess. Yes, it's only 100mAh more, so it has a 5% larger battery. I guess the point is the S3 must be much easier on its battery. You mentioned gsmarena...
gsmarena(dot)com
/compare.php3?idPhone1=4804&idPhone2=4665
(Forum wont let me post links yet... so I had to list it that way)
This compares the two phones and lists the S3 having 2 hours and 30 minutes longer talk time the the LTEvo. I have seen a few other websites also showing a clear advantage in the battery life with video and surfing as well, I just can't find that link and gsmarena just lists talk time numbers. If I do I'll repost.
knlmwq said:
@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
nkchri2 said:
Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude you are in the EVOLTE forum, we are all users and fans of this phone. What do you expect? Ofcourse we will lean towards the evo more. Both are good phones, but honestly we like the evo way more otherwise we wouldnt have bought it and actively discuss and praise it. Stop trolling with the gs3 is better crap.
Related
Just bought my tab 10.1 like a week ago, but as soon as I turned it on, I could noticeably see it run much slower than my Desire..
By slow, I mean the homepages take so long to rotate, bringing widgets or apps to homescreen or relocating them takes a few long seconds etc
the actual running of apps is not a problem
dunno.. dualcore, 1GB RAM.. thought it would make me wanna throw my phone away but it's completely the opposite atm..
Stock with all the apps loaded and the system not cleaned up, yes the tablet will be a lot slower, the displays anywhere will almost never give you the real experience because its soo overwhelmed with crap to show how fast it is. If you keep tasks killed via the Samsung task killer and don't just leave the tablet to fend for itself then it will be just as fast as your phone, for a faster than phone experiance, root, and install task 14 or overcome and your tablet will cruise and do so much more and fastern than your phone
At least we couldn't brick our cell phones back in the 80s ... they were already bricks
Sent from my M865 using XDA App
My galaxy s2 feels like it's on par with my tablet on task ROM. Plays games and videos just as good
xcly said:
Just bought my tab 10.1 like a week ago, but as soon as I turned it on, I could noticeably see it run much slower than my Desire..
By slow, I mean the homepages take so long to rotate, bringing widgets or apps to homescreen or relocating them takes a few long seconds etc
the actual running of apps is not a problem
dunno.. dualcore, 1GB RAM.. thought it would make me wanna throw my phone away but it's completely the opposite atm..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel you dude, the tab is seriously slow on touch widz 3.1. Since its using the slowest dual core, the tegra 2.
My sgs2 is much faster in every way. Even apps are smoother.
Flash overcome rom made it much better since its upgraded to 3.2.
But still slower than a phone.
Finally the kang ics rom made it on par in terms on UI smoothness.
Sorry you receive so much bad comments here. Most people don't feel the pain.
After spending so much money, naturally we expect the best experience out of the box.
Sgs2 is great, superbly smooth without the need of any mod or custom roms.
But the tab out of the box experience is just bad.
Don't be a whiner, you already bought the tab, learn the flash custom rom and you'll be happy,
Despite being slower than sgs2, I still prefer using the tab as bigger screen is really much comfortable for browsing.
@Ray1, It isn't the whole idea of raging at someone over a touch device, Hell even the first Glofish/Windows based touch phones were slow as HELL, I just feel that people have forgotten what it's like to have, I don't know, patience?
Sure it's a smart device, but also realize that the loading is based on how much information it has to process, Compare a 4" screen to something that is 10" it's like comparing Windows 95 and Windows XP, In a 4" device you would have everything served asap only because the DPI is lesser compared to the tablet, I feel that your comparison of the fastest smartphone in the market at the moment versus the tablet which was supposed to be an upgrade of the 7" tablet is somewhat unfair. I guess some people can't learn to appreciate, and it's all about bringing up the "car theory" of what is the fastest.
Just so you know, no offence in any of this, but the tablet was built to handle ICS. If the Google Nexus was running HC or Gingerbread, you would even rage at how horribly slow it is. Don't blame the system for being slow, blame the OS, just a minor update, Smartphones had the evolution of smoothness from Eclair>Froyo>Gingerbread where as tablet's are still in their first era of figuring out its era of smoothness, however ICS is the perfection of what HC had failed to provide and they just didn't care about pushing it out onto the next HC update because it would be pointless to try and fix something that was way past it's testing phase, better example would be trying to upgrade a Windows XP when you have an i7, you wouldn't touch the XP now that you have an i7 now would you?
@Benzo I completely agree with you on your POV
Edit 2: I want to keep this on topic.
@xcly - Yes you are right it seems. Many smartphones are faster than tablets.
My wife's Droid (something) I can't remember the model, I just tested switched screens instantly while my tablet takes a second to render the graphics and move to a different screen. Sorry you're disappointed with your purchase.
My starting post:
Is this where that rant was?
Must have got reported and deleted.
So we can complain, but not complain about the complaining? Now that makes my day. LOL
What a double standard. But, still makes me laugh.
EDIT: Looks like this "is" where several posts got deleted, not just my own, because we "complained" with reason based explanations about posts complaining about bananas not being as red as apples. 'nuff said.
@ The Mod who removed my post(s) I send a thank you because it showed how old people get grumpy and vocal sometimes when they disagree with what's being stated.
@Misledz - It appears your latest post doesn't agree with the OP and gives reasoning. So I might expect it to be gone soon too. As will this one probably will be also. I'm off to bed.
get cm9
You should definitely try out the cm9 pre alpha build, my tablet was equally as slow, almost unbearably, to the point where there was lag when using the keyboard. But cm9 is quick and speedy and if you don't mind losing the camera on ur tab for awhile definitely worth the update.
ah well at least i know i'm not alone in this tablet slowness :/
you know.. i would've rooted it the first second i got it out of the box but it's not just for my own use so really don't have a choice on flashing a better ROM
will probably have to get meself a new phone instead lol
Tablets are also pushing more pixels than a phone with the same processor hence the UI lag
Sent from my GT-P7510 using xda premium
Misledz said:
Compare a 4" screen to something that is 10" it's like comparing Windows 95 and Windows XP, In a 4" device you would have everything served asap only because the DPI is lesser compared to the tablet, I feel that your comparison of the fastest smartphone in the market at the moment versus the tablet which was supposed to be an upgrade of the 7" tablet is somewhat unfair.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its been awhile since i check this thread.
seems that some post were deleted. lol...
seeing how long post gets deleted, i shall keep my opinions as brief as possible.
excuse for tab10 being slow due to big screen resolution is invalid.
galaxy note and tab 7.7 similar resolution, but they are very smooth with no lag.
great experience out of the box.
reason: they use the exynos chipset similar to sgs2.
the performance is great. such as loading apps, actually running them, scrolling, rotating. there is virtually no lag.
My hate here, and rant, is mainly towards NVIDEA and their hopelessly weak procerssor and GPU. tegra2 is failure, tarnish android image. so sad that all first gen tablet uses it. makes majority average users feel android is slow.
lets make playing field fair and compare base on category.
tablet: tab7.7 powns tab10.1 and every other tegra2 tab out there. benchmark and real life usage.
phones: sgs2 powns lg optimus 2x and motorola atrix(use tegra2 as well). if want to be more fair, just compare optimus 2x, since atric has qhd screen.
i always knew tab10.1 use tegra2, but i still bought it thinking there isn much difference(i was so naive at that time). but its really really bad. HC makes it even worst. as the thread starter mention, its really a shame tab slower than phone.
look at the competition. i'm not apple fan, but i admit it, ipad2 is just soooo smooth and fast. (of cos it has its limitation and weakness), but over all user experience is smooth. the tab10.1 in the out of the box state is just.....sad.(dont want to elaborate).
i'm not a whiner. since i spend so much $$ for it.
i force myself to learn about rooting, and flashing rom. now on kang ICS, the performance is in the acceptable range.
tegra2, the first dual core, also the weakest and slowest.
tegra3, first quad core. but i'm not interested, will wait and see what TI and samsung offer.
take a look how tegra 3 get powned by TI's dual core.
being the first does not guarantee good performance.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/watch-a-pa...thrash-the-tegra-3-in-a-lenghty-browser-test/
Ray1 said:
its been awhile since i check this thread.
seems that some post were deleted. lol...
seeing how long post gets deleted, i shall keep my opinions as brief as possible.
excuse for tab10 being slow due to big screen resolution is invalid.
galaxy note and tab 7.7 similar resolution, but they are very smooth with no lag.
great experience out of the box.
reason: they use the exynos chipset similar to sgs2.
the performance is great. such as loading apps, actually running them, scrolling, rotating. there is virtually no lag.
My hate here, and rant, is mainly towards NVIDEA and their hopelessly weak procerssor and GPU. tegra2 is failure, tarnish android image. so sad that all first gen tablet uses it. makes majority average users feel android is slow.
lets make playing field fair and compare base on category.
tablet: tab7.7 powns tab10.1 and every other tegra2 tab out there. benchmark and real life usage.
phones: sgs2 powns lg optimus 2x and motorola atrix(use tegra2 as well). if want to be more fair, just compare optimus 2x, since atric has qhd screen.
i always knew tab10.1 use tegra2, but i still bought it thinking there isn much difference(i was so naive at that time). but its really really bad. HC makes it even worst. as the thread starter mention, its really a shame tab slower than phone.
look at the competition. i'm not apple fan, but i admit it, ipad2 is just soooo smooth and fast. (of cos it has its limitation and weakness), but over all user experience is smooth. the tab10.1 in the out of the box state is just.....sad.(dont want to elaborate).
i'm not a whiner. since i spend so much $$ for it.
i force myself to learn about rooting, and flashing rom. now on kang ICS, the performance is in the acceptable range.
tegra2, the first dual core, also the weakest and slowest.
tegra3, first quad core. but i'm not interested, will wait and see what TI and samsung offer.
take a look how tegra 3 get powned by TI's dual core.
being the first does not guarantee good performance.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/watch-a-pa...thrash-the-tegra-3-in-a-lenghty-browser-test/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Completely agree. Nvidia is the main problem with HC tablets. Remove tegra 2 and instantly awsome tablet
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 with MIUI.
I have a P7500 3G with CM9 KANG ICS.
I have used both for web browsing and I did see my phone as faster until I set my CPU of my tablet to 1.4ghz.
It really has made a difference and my tablet browsing is awesome and quick.
I would also try using the Google Chrome Beta Browser. It makes web browsing a dream
Is there any way of speeding up the scrolling between homescreens? I prefer not to root.
Also for me the speed is disappointing. Used to the Ipad and Galaxy S2.
Without widgets it is somewhat faster but widgets is the nr. 1 reason to go for Android.
Huib
Wow this thread is over a year old now lol. You can't do much without rooting I'm afraid..
Disable all system apps you don't use and see if that makes any difference. Otherwise, it's root and freeze more apps or flash custom roms.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Which would you buy and which do you think will offer more roms. I'm available for an upgrade now.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA
I had the same choice yesterday . I honestly picked the S3, HTC's UI gets boring and old after a while and i have an HTC phone right now. I wanna try something new and that 2gigs of ram is hard to pass on.
That's what I was thinking plus the larger screen is an added bonus on the s3.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA
I wouldn't want to miss my 64gb microsd and an exchangable/extendable battery. So I'd go for a SIII. What a shame that HTC removed both.
Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
~Freshly re-acquired evo rockin' NRGZ; from the mogul up ta present, but then AOKP happened. P.S. f**k the police....
Both phones are very good. If you are on sprint then its a given, just go with the evo. If your not then you have more room to play. However I would recommend the evo over the Samsung GS3. First Sprint gives true unlimited data and already has the evo, not the GS3. Giving props to the GS3 for the slightly bigger screen is a no-no. It is only a tenth of an inch bigger. Besides the bigger the screen, the more cpu/gpu power used. Speaking of that the evo has a snap dragon krait @ 1.5 GHZ dual core while the Exnos is @ 1.4 GHZ dual core. The Krait is a fairly popular CPU and is extreamly fast and responsive for its generation. It also in many other devices with have a large development behind them, therefore the CPU will be better tuned and potently have a higher overclock the the exnos. If you are concerned about ram, why should you be? The evo can easily run all applications that can be thrown at it including games. For the record virtual ram is available now.... (ya it wont be as fast enitialy, but what if they were to mount it to the rom instead of the standard class 5 micro sd card...) And if you enjoy gameing your in luck Htc's one line is the first 3rd party company to exclusively be accepted by Sony's playstation, allowing you to be able to play some exclusive playstaion games. The evo, in my personal opinion has a far superior build quality then Samsung's cheap plastic mat finish. When it comes to Customer care, support and updates, htc will surpass samsung. There are a lot of cool new software features such as S Voice on Samsung though, although a lot of people say they are lousy, and just another selling point to compete with Apple's precious Siri app. IF you are conserned about the batterlife, the evo has a larger battery then the GS3, and even though its non removable, it last a long time. I own it and im a power user. I cant stop using it. If you look at the popular devices section you will see mainly samsung devices, although the evo is on there and shurely will reach #1 as its original, the htc evo 4g did ,witch was the #1 device for well over a year. Development will pretty much be even though, maybe the evo a little beter, having a starting chance. There is so much more info that i could talk about but im starting to ramble on and on. When it comes to picking a device I look for the best device weather it is a brand name or not and the amount of potential development it will receive. That being said I pick the evo and would recommend it as the best Smarthphone on the market to anyone looking to buy a new phone! I know this may seem very one sided, but i did my research before choosing between the two (yes these are the exact to phones i was comparing before making a final decision). I own many samsung products and am not saying the GS3 is bad, just not the best choice. Give me a thanks if I have helped anyone with this matter, and if not, be mature and do not flame me or others providing information to help the general public!
---------- Post added at 05:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:11 PM ----------
MassStash said:
Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
~Freshly re-acquired evo rockin' NRGZ; from the mogul up ta present, but then AOKP happened. P.S. f**k the police....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does have a micros sd card holder under the plastic portion under the top back of the phone that covers the camera, NFC, and all other antennas. You don't have to be tethered to a charger all day like many other smart-phones because the batter life is fantastic. Have you ever heard of Sedio? They are making a battery case for the evo right now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667613 (all thanks go to the OP!) Sense is so well optimized that you forget its even there. All of the features you loved remain. It feels like AOKP/AOSP but with the option of adding sense widgets!
Hi5josh man you need to do some research. First off they will both share the krait s4 processor that you think so highly of. Second of all the S3 has a bigger battery than the Evo LTE. Hey listen if you like the Evo LTE thats cool but dont post information unless you get it correct (no offense). One more thing honestly the whole Sony thing is a gimmick they didnt announce or show any games yet. Dont expect any ps1, or 2 games to be played on your EVO that would just defeat the purpose of the Playstation Vita. HTC will probably get some Homebrew games from third party developers through Sony. Samsung has already had a game center so not missing much there at all.
Anyone else wonder why they released this as the LTE when there really isn't any LTE, and the majority of people won't get LTE for a long time? Just don't get why they didn't bang it out as the quad core version. Then two years from now when LTE actually becomes available to the masses, and they figure out how to make 4 cores and LTE work together....release the mack daddy?
Are you really asking why they didn't hold off on releasing a phone for 2 years? lol I'd never buy stock in your company.
And LTE is already becoming available in some areas.
With that said, people without LTE coverage can still enjoy a pretty badass phone even without LTE. Do you think they'd sell it for less if they removed the LTE antennas, or something?
If you don't like the phone because it has LTE technology that you can't use yet, don't buy it. I hear the iPhone is great for people who have no desire for advanced technology.
Sent from my EVO LTE using Tapatalk 2
Would have made more sense to release the dual core world wide but my guess is the tegra is significantly cheaper.
Also some people already have lte unofficially and millions will have it within a few months based on the roll out schedules.
Mathman85 said:
Are you really asking why they didn't hold off on releasing a phone for 2 years? lol I'd never buy stock in your company.
And LTE is already becoming available in some areas.
With that said, people without LTE coverage can still enjoy a pretty badass phone even without LTE. Do you think they'd sell it for less if they removed the LTE antennas, or something?
If you don't like the phone because it has LTE technology that you can't use yet, don't buy it. I hear the iPhone is great for people who have no desire for advanced technology.
Sent from my EVO LTE using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Settle down, take a breath. No need to get all butt hurt. Its definitely a great phone. But I won't see LTE for a long time. Like quite a lot of others. So a quad core would have been a way bigger hit. Then when LTE was out to MAJORITY of the market and they had time to figure out quad and LTE comparability....bang, they're all dead. Btw I had an iPhone...I know better.
You don't really need it quad core is not well develop yet just like duel core last year suck till ICS, just look at the pocket now review of the GS3, is exynos which is one of the best processor and it seems like Samsung rush it out, but to each their own, I'm happy with this duel core
Sent from my htc_jewel using Tapatalk 2
Good point.^
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/06/04/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-initial-benchmarks-and-hands-on-impressions/
And
EVO LTE test same thing I've out scored on quadrant highest was 5120 and test on smartbench there is slight difference I just ran it 4 times
Edit: trivial benches don't make or break anything so its just a thought the extra gig is nice though still have no major issues on my EVO LTE so I'm sticking with my UK s3 pre order as well ..
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Next year? Nah... Its been done already
AJilka89 said:
I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah the MSM8960 3D edition is a quadcore S4 processor with a 3D chip built in... It was announced in February
and thanks to the architecture it runs cool as ice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9hQD6ddhDw
gokart2 said:
Anyone else wonder why they released this as the LTE when there really isn't any LTE, and the majority of people won't get LTE for a long time? Just don't get why they didn't bang it out as the quad core version. Then two years from now when LTE actually becomes available to the masses, and they figure out how to make 4 cores and LTE work together....release the mack daddy?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll have LTE in the second half of the year, which is coming up soon. Just saying...
Why would they put a WiMax chip in the phone?
The device would have to be thicker to accommodate a radio that is not integrated into the chipset.
WiMax radios are worse on battery than LTE radios.
WiMAx isn't being expanded and will be unsupported by the EOL on the phone. Bringing in another WiMax device would mean they have to maintain the network longer - remember that its not only you that enters a contract, but Sprint as well - they have to maintain their network for use.
You could say QuadCore and 3G only - but really? Come on? A non 4g super phone? that would be insane.
I would also assume that our purchase of the device helps fund the roll out to an extent.
I think you will be surprised how fast you get 4G - if your like me, you probably won't get it while you are on this device because I change to often, but it will come and it will come quickly.
I know I'll have LTE before I'm done with this device, and if this thing is this nice now, when I upgrade again in June next year I'll be blown away!
AJilka89 said:
I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If that's the case my EVO LTE won't get too hot right wrong you push any phone it will get hot infact it gets as hot as the epic touch some points for no good reason as well but besides that point .
Both are good but it seems there's some sort of odd anger still brewing over who's is better faster etc who gives a crap u want a quad get it u want dual get it but these things u speak of are tested via Qualcomm if I remember correctly the e3d adreno 220 on paper beat the sgs2 when qualcomm did the testing we all know what happened after that ..
I'm not choosing quad or dual I may go phone crazy and get both idk but what I do know is they both beat the crap out everything else out there screw tech data I can spew that too real world they both ate great buys great phones
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
alchemist316 said:
If that's the case my EVO LTE won't get too hot right wrong you push any phone it will get hot infact it gets as hot as the epic touch some points for no good reason as well but besides that point .
Both are good but it seems there's some sort of odd anger still brewing over who's is better faster etc who gives a crap u want a quad get it u want dual get it but these things u speak of are tested via Qualcomm if I remember correctly the e3d adreno 220 on paper beat the sgs2 when qualcomm did the testing we all know what happened after that ..
I'm not choosing quad or dual I may go phone crazy and get both idk but what I do know is they both beat the crap out everything else out there screw tech data I can spew that too real world they both ate great buys great phones
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well of course anything you use that's electronic is bound to get hot over an extended time with use.
When I wrote this, I started remembering when the first round of Xbox 360s came around, and the processor was (correct me if I'm wrong) 40nm, and because it got so damn hot, and nothing to help cool it down, the failure rate on the first Xboxes was through the roof. When they later cut the chip down to the 32nm size, and installed some more ventilation, the chip never got nearly as hot, and the failure rate went down.
This isn't saying that are phones are Xbox 360s (give it a few more years, and I'm sure we may be able to play those types of games on here ), but going from a bigger to smaller processor, overall the chip shouldn't get nearly as hot as the quad core.
YMMV of course. This is probably aimed more at the person whose getting around 2 1/2+ days on their phone right now.
Edit: This was to roughly show the difference in the chip by size and design. I love that ours are smaller and more efficient, and I wouldn't care if they did have quad core on here instead. Cause....
This phone is the TRUE SUCCESSOR to our beloved OG and I'm glad we got it in our hands finally! Regardless of what processor we have inside
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
AJilka89 said:
Well of course anything you use that's electronic is bound to get hot over an extended time with use.
When I wrote this, I started remembering when the first round of Xbox 360s came around, and the processor was (correct me if I'm wrong) 40nm, and because it got so damn hot, and nothing to help cool it down, the failure rate on the first Xboxes was through the roof. When they later cut the chip down to the 32nm size, and installed some more ventilation, the chip never got nearly as hot, and the failure rate went down.
This isn't saying that are phones are Xbox 360s (give it a few more years, and I'm sure we may be able to play those types of games on here), but going from a bigger to smaller processor, overall the chip shouldn't get nearly as hot as the quad core.
YMMV of course. This is probably aimed more at the person whose getting around 2 1/2+ days on their phone right now.
Edit: This was to roughly show the difference in the chip by size and design. I love that ours are smaller and more efficient, and I wouldn't care if they did have quad core on here instead. Cause....
This phone is the TRUE SUCCESSOR to our beloved OG and I'm glad we got it in our hands finally! Regardless of what processor we have inside
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree I gotta not smoke when I get up anymore haha they are both great here's my issue .
I don't need a new phone I want one but not on contract I have several on contract now EVO.LTE being one sgs2 the other and my brother's two I pay all of them so I know my sister is getting the sgs3 us I'm leaning international just to give it a shot if I don't like it try to swap it for the us one while she's sleeping or something lol ..
But really I think they all are great none of you or myself are wrong going with any of these things I think as said in other threads android on android hate is hot right now thanks htc and Sammy lol ..
Xbox well I went through two first gen 360s before I gave up for a year and got a great gaming pc
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
alchemist316 said:
I agree I gotta not smoke when I get up anymore haha they are both great here's my issue .
I don't need a new phone I want one but not on contract I have several on contract now EVO.LTE being one sgs2 the other and my brother's two I pay all of them so I know my sister is getting the sgs3 us I'm leaning international just to give it a shot if I don't like it try to swap it for the us one while she's sleeping or something lol ..
But really I think they all are great none of you or myself are wrong going with any of these things I think as said in other threads android on android hate is hot right now thanks htc and Sammy lol ..
Xbox well I went through two first gen 360s before I gave up for a year and got a great gaming pc
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lmao.
Yea I understand. I wasn't picking favorites between the two, I'd be more than happy to have the quad, but then there would be no LTE once Sprint rolls it out. So with LTE in mind, thats why we received the dual core because it works with it. Plus its smaller and just as fast and as long as its a major upgrade from the OG, its money well spent.
I do agree that the Android on Android hate should calm down esp now that we (all of Android) are being shafted by Apple. Hopefully over the next couple of years, Android OEMs will sort of form an alliance to protect themselves from Apple, like the move Google did by giving HTC some patents to use. The more we attack each other, the more divided we will become, and the easier it will be for Apple to sue for stupid crap and ultimately win.
I wish I could get a gaming PC, but its just a lot of money for me, and the plus side of the 360, like most consoles, is that the games will be playable without any hardware upgrades for years. Yea it won't look nearly as good, or play faster, but it works and that's enough for me
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
IDK, maybe just skeptical because I never seen any wimax. Crap, my state barely seen it. We have a tiny little spec on the map.
Here is the correct answer to your question. If they had not made the phone LTE capable you would have had an outrage of people complaining that the phone isn't "future proof" and cant run on LTE when it come to their area. "how can it be a flagship phone if it even can't connect to the new networks?" That would have been all over the forums. Also, apps and the system alone doesn't utilize quad core processor efficiently if at all. Just like quad core computers have been around for a looong time, it took even longer for programs to utilize quad cores, and most of the programs you use every day on a pc aren't even touching the other two cores (assuming you have a quad core pc). This is why the benchmarks are equal (if not better) on the S4 vs Exynos quad because the apps/system isn't designed to take advantage.
Having the transformer prime with the Tegra3 I have to say I'm a tad disappointed.
It has been at least somewhat proven that the s4 is superior in many bench mark tests. And this chip is based off of a newer more efficient platform.
Really just do yourself a favor and imagine that the lte has 4 core.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
I don't know why people are so eager to get a quad-core processor in their phone. The software barely takes advantage of two cores so there would be very little gain to adding two more.
It is difficult for Me to believe that a phone is outranking my beautiful TF201, according to anatutu.
Im a tad disappointed.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
They are different devices doing different things. Phones typically have a lot more going on with their internal processes than tablets, so I don't think that the SIII is going to be significantly faster in real-world use.
With that said, the TP has been out for about seven months now, and the SIII has only been out for a couple of weeks. The logical progression of things like this is that new top-end devices will always be faster than old top-end devices. The TP hasn't stopped being an excellent device that shines in its own right, but it will be considered an antique in a couple of years.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA
Never followed up to say thanks for your opinion. I just wish Asus would put the effort into their hardware as apple does.
Anyway, I love my Prime but rarely use it anymore, now that I have my Galaxy s2, and an i3 Dell laptop to tether to my phone.
Besides my white s2 looks majestic compared to.....whatever they want to call that s3 design
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
cragains said:
It is difficult for Me to believe that a phone is outranking my beautiful TF201, according to anatutu.
Im a tad disappointed.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
New devices are faster than older devices. This is nothing new.
Also, practically no apps really take full advantage of all of the processing power that the Prime has to offer. It isn't as if app hardware requirements are about to jump up to the point where they won't run on your Prime any longer so specs aren't really all that important anyway.
IMO the spec-race with regards to Android devices really needs to slow down. I am all for more powerful devices but since the software isn't exactly racing to keep up increasing the specs past a certain point just make hardware more expensive.
Companies would be better off focusing that money on stuff like better cameras, better screens, improved battery life, better build materials & processes and improving software development in order to really iron out all of their new software features and ensure a better over-all user experience.
almightywhacko said:
New devices are faster than older devices. This is nothing new.
Also, practically no apps really take full advantage of all of the processing power that the Prime has to offer. It isn't as if app hardware requirements are about to jump up to the point where they won't run on your Prime any longer so specs aren't really all that important anyway.
IMO the spec-race with regards to Android devices really needs to slow down. I am all for more powerful devices but since the software isn't exactly racing to keep up increasing the specs past a certain point just make hardware more expensive.
Companies would be better off focusing that money on stuff like better cameras, better screens, improved battery life, better build materials & processes and improving software development in order to really iron out all of their new software features and ensure a better over-all user experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Word!
Also minor changes are made to the interface of Android. Companies should focus on making their devices more unique than powerful. I used to make fun of iphone owners by saying that the interface (which seems to be designed by a 5-year-old) has not changed since the first iphone. But now I guess the same can be said about android phones. If google is not willing to make bold changes, mobile makers should take the first steps and do it.
You are just bragging about "apps doesn't support quad core", "we cant see tegra power". Bull****. Tegra is full of crap. Android is full of crap really. U buy a 4 core tablet, no app supporting this amount of cores (and let's ****in face it - this tablet performs like **** with I/O problems). I mean wtf? Going with iPad next time!
martinesko36 said:
You are just bragging about "apps doesn't support quad core", "we cant see tegra power". Bull****. Tegra is full of crap. Android is full of crap really. U buy a 4 core tablet, no app supporting this amount of cores (and let's ****in face it - this tablet performs like **** with I/O problems). I mean wtf? Going with iPad next time!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So... can I say that iOS is crap too because of fake multitasking, lack of homescreen, ripping off the notification centre, lack of customisability and only dual-core CPU? Similarly, can I also say the iPad is crap because it's overpriced, evolutionary rather than revolutionary jump from iPad 2 to iPad 3, only a 5MP camera, heavier than the Prime, thicker than the Prime, no 600nit display, no official keyboard dock, no storage expansion options and overpriced accessories?
Really? We have to revert back to another ipad vs. Transfner Prime thread? I thought these silly arguments were over with.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA
I was going to write a long post about how the prime is over a doubling period old and its still one of the top contenders but i realized its useless.
Why complain that a device thats over 6 months old isnt the best on the market? Especially when it was overrated and still has lots of problems
Also consider samsung's reputation in making high end devices. Their quad core tablet will, i expect, out perform the prime or the 700 with ease, mind you without the fancy accessories.
Sometimes i wonder why i even bother...
Yeah, prime owners including myself have had some issues. Still I am, and always have been very satisfied with it. I sadly
fell on the "if I run 10 apps on my Prime it shuts down"-train and ran some tweaks. It's running "faster" now but I have no idea
why I did it as it was doing all I wanted in the first place!
Now to my point, norwegian site www.itavisen.no today released an article with pictures of a guys S3 actually "exploding"
shooting out white flames and melting. No kidding. The phone is on it's way to Samsung for testing. With a recall
possibility. As I said we've had our share, but this. And that's samsung, known for build quality. Lol
So no it's not only Asus.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
Ya as we constantly move towards faster, more powerfull, smaller, we are pushing limits and things will occasionally break down or not work as expected. Got a link to the S3 video?
The S3 in Canada is only dual core, kind of useless, why should i upgrade from my S2 which is clocked slightly slower and just has slightly less memory? Other than that my phone works awesome and after tweaking i dont have issues with anything.
pileot said:
Ya as we constantly move towards faster, more powerfull, smaller, we are pushing limits and things will occasionally break down or not work as expected. Got a link to the S3 video?
The S3 in Canada is only dual core, kind of useless, why should i upgrade from my S2 which is clocked slightly slower and just has slightly less memory? Other than that my phone works awesome and after tweaking i dont have issues with anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's a direct link to the forum with fotos http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056677034 . How they can claim it's a fault of the carmount and heater I don't know, must be very heat sensitive.
Looks like it fried near where the 3g/4g antennas are, perhaps a poor connection? Aparently samsung took the phone for testing, will be watching this topic closely since im interested in geting a SGS3 when the prices come down.
pileot said:
The S3 in Canada is only dual core, kind of useless, why should i upgrade from my S2 which is clocked slightly slower and just has slightly less memory? Other than that my phone works awesome and after tweaking i dont have issues with anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Snapdragon S2 and S3 use the Scorpion core, which takes some of the best features of both Cortex-A8 and Cortex-A9 ARM core designs and brings them into a single ARM core....
Snapdragon S4 uses the Krait core, which takes the best features of the Cortex-A9 and the Cortex-A15 ARM core designs with a much better manufacturing process to produce smaller chips that are far more power efficient and deliver amazing amounts of performance compared to its competitors (which are Cortex-A9 based). This is why dual-core Snapdragon S4 devices can go toe to toe with the quad-core Tegra 3 and Exynos 4 on the CPU front.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a quote from http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/editorial-why-a-snapdragon-s4-galaxy-s-iii-is-awesome/ . It kind of stings a little to see the dual core s4 beating my Prime in benchmarks with half the cores, but that is technology and I'm still happy with my prime.
As far as comparing the speed of the S2 to the S3, the S3 should be a very noticeable difference. A15 is much better than A9 AND Qualcomm has a license to develop their own ARM CPU cores. Also, the S2 will have half the RAM of the S3. I don't feel like that is "slightly less"
ZebTheCalvinist said:
They are different devices doing different things. Phones typically have a lot more going on with their internal processes than tablets, so I don't think that the SIII is going to be significantly faster in real-world use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? Tell me more about it, I'm using Transformer Prime and Galaxy S3 international version.
fordwolden said:
Yeah, prime owners including myself have had some issues. Still I am, and always have been very satisfied with it. I sadly
fell on the "if I run 10 apps on my Prime it shuts down"-train and ran some tweaks. It's running "faster" now but I have no idea
why I did it as it was doing all I wanted in the first place!
Now to my point, norwegian site www.itavisen.no today released an article with pictures of a guys S3 actually "exploding"
shooting out white flames and melting. No kidding. The phone is on it's way to Samsung for testing. With a recall
possibility. As I said we've had our share, but this. And that's samsung, known for build quality. Lol
So no it's not only Asus.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
9 million pre orders and only 1 case of malfunction? Pretty damn good build quality.
ASUS Transformer Prime, unsure amount of sales, redundant "note taking" screen digitizer, incompetent IO and a whole heap load of complaints regarding screen flicker and FC issue. Well, we have a winner here.
It doesn't matter what scores benchmarking apps like Antutu shows, my Prime scores a 13k while my S3 scores 11.9k. It's more to being able to do what it's suppose to do, not crashing and more Force Crashes or having Severe lag while transfering files within the system.
S3 didn't kill the TF201, ASUS just failed to deliver what TF201 is meant to be.
MXR2 said:
9 million pre orders and only 1 case of malfunction? Pretty damn good build quality.
ASUS Transformer Prime, unsure amount of sales, redundant "note taking" screen digitizer, incompetent IO and a whole heap load of complaints regarding screen flicker and FC issue. Well, we have a winner here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My point was I'd rather be one of the 2 million people with I/O problems (which it seems _motley are doing some great things with in his new 3.0.6 kernel) than to be the one in 9 million that gets the device that shoots out white flames when I'm walking around with it in my jeanspocket at a downward 45 degree angle. Just saying.
fordwolden said:
My point was I'd rather be one of the 2 million people with I/O problems (which it seems _motley are doing some great things with in his new 3.0.6 kernel) than to be the one in 9 million that gets the device that shoots out white flames when I'm walking around with it in my jeanspocket at a downward 45 degree angle. Just saying.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think I can really draw a comparison between these two at all. It's different then apples and oranges, it's like an avocado and a rump roast.
The exploding GS3 doesn't tell me much, it's an extreme case and I don't know what other variables are thrown in the mix. Regardless of benchmark scores, I'm very happy with my prime. Is the quality better than that of the ipad? No, not at all in my opinion. But I didn't buy it to compare to my ipad, I bought it to play with and I have A LOT of fun with it building and modding and tweaking.
Just a quick question:
T-Mobile has a pretty nice deal going on, where you can purchase a combination of two smartphones (LG Optimus L90 or Samsung Galaxy Light) for a total of $100 + tax!
After hearing this sweet deal, I had to go out and purchase one of those phones, and so I went with the Samsung Galaxy Light, as my brother who will be entering his senior year of high school never had a smartphone in his life. I have heard great things about the Samsung Galaxy Light, but never looked into the LG L90 until I got home, and it looks like it is a 4.7 inch phone vs. the Samsung Galaxy Light's 4 inch screen.
My question is, after looking at the details, which phone is superior then the other? One phone would serve for my brother (he is going to download games and what not, so I figured the 1.4GHz would be superior to LG's 1.2GHz?) and the other phone would serve as a backup (always good to have one laying around!)
Would love to hear your insight on which phone you would chose and why, my brother doesn't care about what phone he gets, just wants an Android that has something he can take pictures with and download tons of apps/games. At the moment, he really is happy with the Light, but I can always switch the other phone to the LG L90, if it is worth the trip to the T-Mobile trip, of course.
BTW: Before someone suggests another phone, I really am looking for something CHEAP, and having an external MicroSD card slot really is a big deal!
Thanks!
darkgiant said:
Just a quick question:
T-Mobile has a pretty nice deal going on, where you can purchase a combination of two smartphones (LG Optimus L90 or Samsung Galaxy Light) for a total of $100 + tax!
After hearing this sweet deal, I had to go out and purchase one of those phones, and so I went with the Samsung Galaxy Light, as my brother who will be entering his senior year of high school never had a smartphone in his life. I have heard great things about the Samsung Galaxy Light, but never looked into the LG L90 until I got home, and it looks like it is a 4.7 inch phone vs. the Samsung Galaxy Light's 4 inch screen.
My question is, after looking at the details, which phone is superior then the other? One phone would serve for my brother (he is going to download games and what not, so I figured the 1.4GHz would be superior to LG's 1.2GHz?) and the other phone would serve as a backup (always good to have one laying around!)
Would love to hear your insight on which phone you would chose and why, my brother doesn't care about what phone he gets, just wants an Android that has something he can take pictures with and download tons of apps/games. At the moment, he really is happy with the Light, but I can always switch the other phone to the LG L90, if it is worth the trip to the T-Mobile trip, of course.
BTW: Before someone suggests another phone, I really am looking for something CHEAP, and having an external MicroSD card slot really is a big deal!
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no issues with my L90. Quad core 1.2 ghz BTW , 4 GB internal storage ( user data ), 2 GB system storage. I think 1 GB RAM is advertised by in actuality it's a little over 800 MB. Device is pretty quick. There is a CM11 ( 4.4.4 ) ROM that's fairly stable and with most things working already available for the L90 as well. For most, myself included, the L90 is much much faster running CM11 than stock. Just my opinion tho I paid $150 for mine so if you can get one for $100 I'd climb all over it. LMAO...
Decisions decisions...
Thanks for your response!
I currently have the two Samsung Galaxy Lights... I was wondering if it is worth the extra trip to switch it for the L90's? Just curious since I didn't even look into the phone before buying it...
Sent from my SGH-T769 using XDA Free mobile app
Bump? Would love to get more insight on this!
darkgiant said:
My question is, after looking at the details, which phone is superior then the other? One phone would serve for my brother (he is going to download games and what not, so I figured the 1.4GHz would be superior to LG's 1.2GHz?) and the other phone would serve as a backup (always good to have one laying around!)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Between these 2 phones, the main choice is bigger screen vs faster data. The 4.0" screen on the Light is pretty small. The status bar is cramped, the notification menu takes up a ton of space, typing is a bit iffy, and it's obviously not the best choice for watching videos or playing games. But it has LTE data.
The bigger screen on the L90 is definitely better for easier use and viewing. Pixel density is practically identical to the Light, so text won't be any clearer, but there'll be more of it. However, the L90 doesn't have LTE. Heck, it doesn't even have 42.2Mb/s HSDPA+, only 21.1Mb/s. Thankfully T-Mobile has a very good 3G network wherever they have LTE, so speeds are still pretty decent (for example, in Tucson, T-Mo's 3G speeds are better than Sprint's LTE - although that's not saying much). You could see speeds as slow as 1/3 or 1/4 those of LTE.
If you use wi-fi at home and maybe even at work, I'd go with the L90. If you want to stream music or use it as a mp3 player, and don't care as much about games/video or browsing, go with the Galaxy Light since it's smaller and has LTE.
shinobisoft said:
I think 1 GB RAM is advertised by in actuality it's a little over 800 MB.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some RAM on every device is set aside for the GPU.
Planterz said:
Between these 2 phones, the main choice is bigger screen vs faster data. The 4.0" screen on the Light is pretty small. The status bar is cramped, the notification menu takes up a ton of space, typing is a bit iffy, and it's obviously not the best choice for watching videos or playing games. But it has LTE data.
The bigger screen on the L90 is definitely better for easier use and viewing. Pixel density is practically identical to the Light, so text won't be any clearer, but there'll be more of it. However, the L90 doesn't have LTE. Heck, it doesn't even have 42.2Mb/s HSDPA+, only 21.1Mb/s. Thankfully T-Mobile has a very good 3G network wherever they have LTE, so speeds are still pretty decent (for example, in Tucson, T-Mo's 3G speeds are better than Sprint's LTE - although that's not saying much). You could see speeds as slow as 1/3 or 1/4 those of LTE.
If you use wi-fi at home and maybe even at work, I'd go with the L90. If you want to stream music or use it as a mp3 player, and don't care as much about games/video or browsing, go with the Galaxy Light since it's smaller and has LTE.
Some RAM on every device is set aside for the GPU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your detailed response! Yes you are right, I am majority of the times on WiFi, and so would be my brother (whether at home, or at work). That being said, I goes the LTE doesn't make that much of a difference, or at least for me.
My brother essentially would just download multiple apps and just watch videos on YouTube and various other online sources. He also wants to game, a lot.
With all that being said, so you feel getting the L90 would be a better idea for the long run?
Thanks once again!
Sent from my SGH-T769 using XDA Free mobile app
darkgiant said:
Thanks for your detailed response! Yes you are right, I am majority of the times on WiFi, and so would be my brother (whether at home, or at work). That being said, I goes the LTE doesn't make that much of a difference, or at least for me.
My brother essentially would just download multiple apps and just watch videos on YouTube and various other online sources. He also wants to game, a lot.
With all that being said, so you feel getting the L90 would be a better idea for the long run?
Thanks once again!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, the L90 would probably be the better choice in this case. Bigger battery and better camera than the GL too. And the IPS-LCD screen on the L90, although not having higher pixel density, should be of better quality than the TFT screen of the GL.
A co-worker of mine was faced with the same dilemma, and is going with the L90 as well, since he'll use wi-fi at home, and the 3G speeds in Tucson are plenty for streaming music while he takes the bus across town.
Planterz said:
Yeah, the L90 would probably be the better choice in this case. Bigger battery and better camera than the GL too. And the IPS-LCD screen on the L90, although not having higher pixel density, should be of better quality than the TFT screen of the GL.
A co-worker of mine was faced with the same dilemma, and is going with the L90 as well, since he'll use wi-fi at home, and the 3G speeds in Tucson are plenty for streaming music while he takes the bus across town.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad to hear! My original assumption was the 1.4GHz was the way to go, as I assumed it would be faster performance wise (as I was just looking for the fastest phone), but I guess the fact that the processor is not that heard of in the community may be a bit of a risk (in terms of compatiablity) versus the L90 which seems to be popular within the Android community, especially with XDA.
Thanks for your insight! Going to swap both phones first thing tomorrow!
darkgiant said:
Glad to hear! My original assumption was the 1.4GHz was the way to go, as I assumed it would be faster performance wise (as I was just looking for the fastest phone), but I guess the fact that the processor is not that heard of in the community may be a bit of a risk (in terms of compatiablity) versus the L90 which seems to be popular within the Android community, especially with XDA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honestly, the extra 200MHz of the Galaxy Light's Exynos is wasted (and probably more) running the heavy TouchWiz interface. The L90 has a Snapdragon 400, which means an Adreno 305 GPU, which is superior to the Mali-400 the GL has.
I vote for L90, bigger screen, better battery and "self-healing" coating. You may choose samsung if you need performance but i think 1.2gz vs 1.4gz wont gain you any benefit except playing heavy 3d game
So it turns out that all the LG L90's are now backtracked, and there is some sort of "Restocking Fee" of $50 if I were to return both phones.
I told the sales representative that the the person never mentioned of the L90's, but she really kept on complaining that its not her fault (she was the manager). I personally have worked sales jobs as a teenager, but boy, the service at the store was complete crap.
She later goes on claiming the phones are pretty identical, with the screen size being bigger on the LG, but the processor is faster on the Samsung Galaxy Light, making it a far superior phone to the LG L90.
Apparently, if the phone is broken, unusable (OS is slow) then they can return the phone, but I dunno if using that excuse would get me any farther, to be honest.
Do you guys think its worth the hassle at this point?
Sorry but there are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!
Hi Mike!