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So I am loving my photon. Have had it since launch day, and the one thing I am less than happy with is the camera performance indoors. Both my epic and evo shift 4g took good pictures indoors, but it seems pretty hit and miss with me and the photon. I cant decide if I should return it and wait for the Galaxy S2 or if maybe they will improve the camera software in an update.
Example as to what I mean with the pictures.
I took a picture, with flash on and settings in auto on my friends atrix, and side by side with my photon. The picture looked more natural on his screen, but on mine, the colors were weird and it wasn't focused very well.
Thoughts?
Only giving my opinion because no one has answered this yet.
I have noticed that the camera is not great indoors. However, one must remember that indoor shots are difficult even with good cameras because of the low light.
But since you are comparing your shots to another phone, all I can say is that hardware is different. Hard to say what is causing it and whether or not the camera on the Atrix is really better.
What I would do if it was me as a first step is to call Motorola and ask them why the camera sucks compared to the Atrix and see what they say. Maybe someone can shed some light on things.
If not, might just have to bite the bullet and buy an app such as Vignette from the Market if you can't get the satisfactory settings on the stock camera app. It might have some set profiles you can use that would make the pictures come out much better. I did see that someone posted taking pictures on the Photon with Vignette produced really good pics but don't know where the shots were taken.
Again, I'm not that knowledgeable on this so these are just suggestions.
I think it's because the flash is less than white. I think it actually gives a more natural picture and looks less like a flash was used. You can edit the photo after you have taken it on the phone. Moto built in some decent editing software in the gallery view.
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So I am loving my photon. Have had it since launch day, and the one thing I am less than happy with is the camera performance indoors. Both my epic and evo shift 4g took good pictures indoors, but it seems pretty hit and miss with me and the photon. I cant decide if I should return it and wait for the Galaxy S2 or if maybe they will improve the camera software in an update.
Example as to what I mean with the pictures.
I took a picture, with flash on and settings in auto on my friends atrix, and side by side with my photon. The picture looked more natural on his screen, but on mine, the colors were weird and it wasn't focused very well.
Thoughts?
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The Photon actually takes the photo before it finishes focusing causing pics to look really bad. Having played with several Photons, I decided to just use Vignette (from the market) instead. Pics now look outstanding.
My comparisons were done between EVO 4G & MoPho. Hope that helps.
I would say that my HTC Heroc's camera is better then the MoPho which is a big disappointment. It's also worse the the Evo 3D's which I played with for a month. The crappy pictures aren't just indoor, they also aren't very good on clouldy days. Is there a better camera app out there that can take nicer pictures or any roms that have camera tweaks?
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I would say that my HTC Heroc's camera is better then the MoPho which is a big disappointment. It's also worse the the Evo 3D's which I played with for a month. The crappy pictures aren't just indoor, they also aren't very good on clouldy days. Is there a better camera app out there that can take nicer pictures or any roms that have camera tweaks?
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Try Vignette from the Market.
sorry bro.....photon....ergggg....all moto devices always have the wroste camera on phones soo :S....you have no lucky to that
I just downloaded the free version of vignette and the photos are much worse than the stock camera. I mean real bad. Is the free version not so good?
Photos colors are way off.
vignette free sucks because it only saves effects in .3mp, however the full version can take forever to process the effects. luckily you can just keep taking pictures and it processes in the background. btw vignette is better than stock.
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vignette free sucks because it only saves effects in .3mp, however the full version can take forever to process the effects. luckily you can just keep taking pictures and it processes in the background. btw vignette is better than stock.
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I downloaded the app after reading the numerous recommendations. Maybe I'm an idiot but I can't figure out how to zoom in and out...seems like every button takes a picture...help?
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Vignette only helps so far. What we need is an update from Motorola that addresses the camera issues. But Motorola is silent when it comes to the camera...
I have recently been looking at the photos out of the Nokia N8. If only my MoPho could take images like that!
romantivist said:
I downloaded the app after reading the numerous recommendations. Maybe I'm an idiot but I can't figure out how to zoom in and out...seems like every button takes a picture...help?
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Hold your finger on the screen and you'll see options
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Our photon comes with really great effects too just press menu then edit than advance
Its the screen resolution of the photon that makes it look different take download the pictures to a computer from both phones and sompare them side by side and you will see that the photon takes a way better pictures, the difference is in the screen,
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The problem I have with the default camera app is that on anything but the brightest of sunny days everything looks blurry. Vignette seems to be much better in that regard. At least inside pictures are fairly sharp.
I'm really feeling Camera ZOOM FX right now, pictures are really nice and sharp indoors. The steady shot give you a readout of the accelerometer and wont take the picture unless you've been stead for 0.5 , 1 or 2 seconds. It's $0.10 on the market today and I would strongly recommend it. The only problem is you don't seem to be able to change picture quality settings.
Camera ZOOM FX
+1 just got camera zoom..lovin it.
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I use camera zoom since i got my photon the default camera app is really ****ty i guess that the difference should be the way the picture is procesed
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I find the Photon camera pretty decent, actually is the best camera I ever had on a phone. For the low light issue thing I would just like to say that it does not take the greatest pic on low light conditions but what actually makes it worse is the Pentile display (and I'm not saying is not a good display like most people), because if you transfer your pictures to your computer you can actually see that the pictures aren't as bad as they seems when you view them in your Photon.
As for camera apps I use Camera360 Ultimate and HDR Camera+
I really don't like camera zoom because you can't save pictures in actual resolutions. (at least when I used I couldn't get them) Maybe they fixed that now.?
Just got the S3 today, and can't seem to figure out how to use HDR. On my HTC One X, when I use HDR, I just switch to HDR and take pictures, and the app will do it's thing and it's done.
With the S3, it takes a picture, and says "processing", but when I looked at the picture it just shoot 2 separate files, but they are not combined (HDR'd)...
I'm pretty sure I'm missing something here.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Just got the S3 today, and can't seem to figure out how to use HDR. On my HTC One X, when I use HDR, I just switch to HDR and take pictures, and the app will do it's thing and it's done.
With the S3, it takes a picture, and says "processing", but when I looked at the picture it just shoot 2 separate files, but they are not combined (HDR'd)...
I'm pretty sure I'm missing something here.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Well, as you probably know, HDR works by taking three (or more) quick pictures at different exposures -- underexposed, normal, and overexposed -- and then combines them so that you can get more dynamic range overall. i.e.: you get to see the detail in the shadows as well as the bright areas. Take some test pictures where there's very bright and very dark areas in the same scene for the best example.
The HDR version is the 1st picture, and you're right that samsung decided to leave the 2nd "leftover" normal image there, probably for before/after comparison. There's no setting to just nuke that 2nd pic though. (other hdr apps in the market btw).
Thanks for the explanation.
I guess, the result is not that great as I thought it was the unprocessed images. lol. I have to try again, but HTC One X takes great HDR without the extra "leftover" image.
Thank you again.
No setting to suppress saving of the non-HDR photo?
I came here to ask if there was a setting somewhere to tell it to NOT keep a "normal" photo with every HDR photo. (I remember the iPhone gave you this choice.)
Next question, has anyone ever figured out how many shots the SGS3 actually uses to make the HDR photo?
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Well, as you probably know, HDR works by taking three (or more) quick pictures at different exposures -- underexposed, normal, and overexposed -- and then combines them so that you can get more dynamic range overall. i.e.: you get to see the detail in the shadows as well as the bright areas. Take some test pictures where there's very bright and very dark areas in the same scene for the best example.
The HDR version is the 1st picture, and you're right that samsung decided to leave the 2nd "leftover" normal image there, probably for before/after comparison. There's no setting to just nuke that 2nd pic though. (other hdr apps in the market btw).
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Sorry...I'm not quite following. Are you saying "Just take 3 pictures of the same thing"...and that automatically makes an HDR picture (a 4th picture)?
ewingr said:
Sorry...I'm not quite following. Are you saying "Just take 3 pictures of the same thing"...and that automatically makes an HDR picture (a 4th picture)?
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He's saying that that's the way HDR works. It takes three different pictures at different settings and then combines them into one HDR picture.
That's the way it works with all digital cameras, not just the phone cameras. Software, such as The Gimp that have plugins for HDR do the same thing. Take one pic, create three duplicates, adjust the settings on the duplicates, then merge them back into one pic.
What is the best HDR app?
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He's saying that that's the way HDR works. It takes three different pictures at different settings and then combines them into one HDR picture.
That's the way it works with all digital cameras, not just the phone cameras. Software, such as The Gimp that have plugins for HDR do the same thing. Take one pic, create three duplicates, adjust the settings on the duplicates, then merge them back into one pic.
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Sure, I know how HDR works. I do a lot with my Canon and making HDR pics. What I don't know is this: Do I need to manually take 3 separate pictures, and if I do, it automatically makes a 4th picture that is HDR?
The post implied it made extra photos, if I take 3 pics I find no extra pictures; and all 3 look idential.
Now, of course doing it manual, you would need to take one; change exposure; take another; change exposure; and again. There's no way a person would get 3 exactly identically framed pictures having to do that. If that is the process, I can't imagine the picture is much good.
No you don't need to take 3 pics. One of the two you see is supposed to be the HDR image and the other is just a regular pic. The phone does it all for you.
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No you don't need to take 3 pics. One of the two you see is supposed to be the HDR image and the other is just a regular pic. The phone does it all for you.
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Hmmm....like I said, I am not seeing anything other than 1 picture when I take a picture...at least not in gallery.
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Hmmm....like I said, I am not seeing anything other than 1 picture when I take a picture...at least not in gallery.
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I always get two pictures when I use the hdr setting.
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I always get two pictures when I use the hdr setting.
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... Sorry...I re-read the thread more slowly. For some reason I thought the OP was wanting to know how to turn on HDR...and so I thought the reply was just saying to take pics, that maybe it was normal.
Boy, was I down the wrong path.
Sorry folks. I got it now. I just looked and do see the HDR setting.
Thanks...
Here are my thoughts on the galaxy S4 camera:
Pros
1. 13 megapixel camera
2. Front and Back camera at same time
3. Some great new shooting modes like sound and shot, animated photo, etc..
4. Gallery has air-view
5. Gallery is easy to use and share photos
Cons
1. No paper artist
2. No filters from S3 (fall colors, solarize, etc)
3. Gallery does not have awesome scrolling view features from Note 2 and spiral view. EDIT: this feature is there.
4. Drama shot never works like Samsung advertises it to.
5. No Macro shot from S3 for close up shots.
Please add both pros and cons that you are finding when using the S4 camera and gallery.
Also, what features would you like to have seen added into the S4 camera and gallery
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bajasur said:
Gallery does not have awesome scrolling view features from Note 2 and spiral view
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It has the spiral view.
mutelight said:
It has the spiral view.
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Really? I'll try and find it now. Thanks
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Glad you found it.
Regarding the macro shots, I have taken some very close up shots. Are you referring to a specific mode that you put the phone in via the software?
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Glad you found it.
Regarding the macro shots, I have taken some very close up shots. Are you referring to a specific mode that you put the phone in via the software?
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Ya.
There used to be a macro setting in the software where close up shots would look great. I have tried to take multiple close up shots of my S3 to try and sell it online and could not get an in focus shot of it.
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It doesn't need a macro mode, it adjusts automatically.
That's with a simple desk lamp for lighting, otherwise it would be even better.
berfles said:
It doesn't need a macro mode, it adjusts automatically.
That's with a simple desk lamp for lighting, otherwise it would be even better.
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I think I'm just going to have to mess with it some more.
I've been getting blurry shots
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loving the camera a lot better than iphone
bajasur said:
I think I'm just going to have to mess with it some more.
I've been getting blurry shots
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I'm getting a *lot* of blurry shots. Is there some way to turn on stabilization or something? Most of my shots come out blurry unless I hold the camera *very* still. Seems like it should do a better job of this sort of thing.
For reference, I was a technical photographer -- I aided photographers in taking better shots by using their hardware in a better way. I know a good amount about photography, but I never really cared much for smartphone photography. One thing I'll say is that I've used many smartphones before to take pictures and none really came out as naturally shaky/blurry as these. Coming from an iPhone 5 I could hold both up and take the same picture and the iPhone 5 is clear and the one from the GS4 is blurry.
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I'm getting a *lot* of blurry shots. Is there some way to turn on stabilization or something? Most of my shots come out blurry unless I hold the camera *very* still. Seems like it should do a better job of this sort of thing.
For reference, I was a technical photographer -- I aided photographers in taking better shots by using their hardware in a better way. I know a good amount about photography, but I never really cared much for smartphone photography. One thing I'll say is that I've used many smartphones before to take pictures and none really came out as naturally shaky/blurry as these. Coming from an iPhone 5 I could hold both up and take the same picture and the iPhone 5 is clear and the one from the GS4 is blurry.
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WELL I feel stupid. Didn't actually look through the options yet...found the stabilization options under photo and video. Works like a charm :laugh:
hotleadsingerguy said:
I'm getting a *lot* of blurry shots. Is there some way to turn on stabilization or something? Most of my shots come out blurry unless I hold the camera *very* still. Seems like it should do a better job of this sort of thing.
For reference, I was a technical photographer -- I aided photographers in taking better shots by using their hardware in a better way. I know a good amount about photography, but I never really cared much for smartphone photography. One thing I'll say is that I've used many smartphones before to take pictures and none really came out as naturally shaky/blurry as these. Coming from an iPhone 5 I could hold both up and take the same picture and the iPhone 5 is clear and the one from the GS4 is blurry.
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weird, i was the complete opposite... to me lighting was important. but my pictures arent as noisy. i guess i also make sure to let it focus a bit longer which the iphone didnt have to do
hotleadsingerguy said:
I'm getting a *lot* of blurry shots. Is there some way to turn on stabilization or something? Most of my shots come out blurry unless I hold the camera *very* still. Seems like it should do a better job of this sort of thing.
For reference, I was a technical photographer -- I aided photographers in taking better shots by using their hardware in a better way. I know a good amount about photography, but I never really cared much for smartphone photography. One thing I'll say is that I've used many smartphones before to take pictures and none really came out as naturally shaky/blurry as these. Coming from an iPhone 5 I could hold both up and take the same picture and the iPhone 5 is clear and the one from the GS4 is blurry.
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WELL I feel stupid. Didn't actually look through the options yet...found the stabilization options under photo and video. Works like a charm :laugh:
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Thanks! Me too
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I'm pretty happy with the close up shots. I can't get the camera to focus as close as I could on my rezound, it still did well. This little bastard wouldn't let me get any closer to him though lol. And of course this app degrades picture quality :banghead:
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I really like the camera. The shots are crips and clear when you have ample lighting. One gripe with this camera is the settings don't stick. I have set anti shake and auto night detection and they turn themselves off. I even had the camera change itself back to 9mp from 13mp. The gallery I just discovered that if you have pictures saved to the SD card and attempt to create some organization by moving them into albums the pictures get moved off of the SD card and back onto the phone internal storage. This creates a folder called "pictures" with all the albums inside as individual folders titled whatever you called the albums. You can't move this "picture" folder back to the SD card as it seems to be locked.
I'm at the beach today missing the beaches/snow filter from the S3.... another feature missing from the S4 camera
Also, does anyone know how you get the two picture at once thing from taking the picture automatically?
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How do you do the spiral gallery view?
EvoRocker said:
How do you do the spiral gallery view?
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Open your gallery, select albums (top left) and it's an option there.
Another con:
Timer is disabled on most shooting modes. Sometimes I feel creative and want to dry the drama shot, and doing it by yourself is impossible. Having 10 seconds to stage the shot would be awesome.
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lots of settings to work through on this camera. i don't think there can be many scenarios that the s4 camera cannot adjust for. was never much into changing the settings since a camera on a phone never had high expectation from me, but i might actually take more time to dig into and learn the options on the s4.
Has anyone figured out how to take legit drama shots?
I get a good one about every ten tries.
Thanks
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So for me, don't get me wrong, during daylight this camera is awesome, but at night time or during some lower light items, this camera doesn't look too hot. For example I went to a theater performance and took some pictures with my Note 3, my date took pictures with her iPhone 5 and her pictures of the stage and actors turned out real well whereas mine with the stock camera app and Camera Zoom FX just looked washed out and not that good. I can't say I had this issue with my S3 either because i was able to take pretty good pictures with that camera. Any ideas on how I can optimize my camera taking skills here? I'm not a noob with the cameras either, it's just frustrating being hit or miss on pictures you know? Help would be greatly appreciated!
I find that the stock camera app leaves a bit to be desired. Especially for low light , action, or macro shots. There are some very nice paid cameras like camera fv-5. I actually also like ucam for a free camera.
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Low light situations and no OIS requires a very steady hand..Not much else you can do man it kinda is what it is.
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I've been trying to take still pictures in my C5 ultra and they all turn out overtly grainy to the point that they look like they were taken on some other phone.
Sometimes I need to add flash even to well-lit rooms. I've lowered the ISO and I've tried changing manual settings. The pictures still come out blurry and grainy to some extent.
Is there something I'm doing wrong? This is kind of frustrating, I was expecting the cam to be decent.
Are taking pictures Indoor? Artificial light does that.
If you take pictures under bright sunlight, are the pictures still grainy?
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malih16 said:
Are taking pictures Indoor? Artificial light does that.
If you take pictures under bright sunlight, are the pictures still grainy?
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I've taken pictures with no artifical light and the pictures are still unfocused and don't look as good as you'd expect. The focus is also really strange and doesn't seem to be working properly.
Pekolachi said:
I've taken pictures with no artifical light and the pictures are still unfocused and don't look as good as you'd expect. The focus is also really strange and doesn't seem to be working properly.
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Can you upload a sample of those unfocused pictures?
There's always the possibility you have a bad hardware.
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malih16 said:
Can you upload a sample of those unfocused pictures?
There's always the possibility you have a bad hardware.
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Took pictures of a figure to illustrate what I meant. The first one was taken with the flashlight turned on. The second one was without flash.
ISO settings were turned down to 100. But I can't seem to get the focus right. I'm coming from an LG G3 and getting this phone to take pictures that look decent (note I'm not expecting perfect photography) has been a pain.
Could be the shutter speed, try Manual mode and select 'Sports' Scene for the fastest Shutter speed, usually works with Flash or Good amount of Sunlight
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