Im converting some old video tapes to MP4. Does this tablet support 50fps playback? The same file plays back flawlessly on my S3 - but that is quad core.
Larger video sizes sees the tablet baulk and freeze.
Disappointed if it doesn't have the raw grunt to keep up.
sjdean said:
Im converting some old video tapes to MP4. Does this tablet support 50fps playback? The same file plays back flawlessly on my S3 - but that is quad core.
Larger video sizes sees the tablet baulk and freeze.
Disappointed if it doesn't have the raw grunt to keep up.
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Not sure, try it.
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I did try it, hence, the tablet freezes on larger file sizes.
Just wondered what the raw specs of the device were and whether the Tegra 2 fully support 50fps and at what res!
I've never had the need to encode something at that frame rate. What resolution and encoding settings are you using? Assume you are encoding to H.264.
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Try latest MX Player my friend, and OC your tabby to 1.2 or 1.4. I tried and 3.5GB mkv file played smoothly on my tab.
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Is the Flyer plagued with the movie playback woes of the Tegra2 chipset that all the current flock of Android tablets seem to have?
Anyone played a 720/1080p MKV video on this tablet?
MKV 1080p videos play like ****, Vplayer, jerky and artifacting. Samsung Galaxy S2 plays much much better, like, perfect.
True the SGS2 does, but so does my old Vibrant. I am more concerned about the tablets and if I should be waiting for the HTC 10" tablet or get one available now. The video playback capability will seal the deal for me.
caysman said:
MKV 1080p videos play like ****, Vplayer, jerky and artifacting. Samsung Galaxy S2 plays much much better, like, perfect.
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first of all they have to put the ntfs compatibility to let us upload files over 4gbyte.
I can't imagine that using a capable processor like this one I can't play at lease 720p movies !
So I picked up my tablet today and started fooling around with it installing apps etc. I read that this tablet has support for .mkv video files so I tried a couple of those but noticed that the playback was very choppy. I then tried converting a few into .mp4 which didn't seem to help much because those were also quite choppy.
Had anybody else experienced this? Are there any solutions for fixing this?
Thanks.
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I'm assuming you're using stock video player, right? Why don't you try e.g. MX Video Player and then experiment with software / hardware decoding options? Since I've been using it I've seen no more stutters in video. The app is free.
I've downloaded 720P film 4gb and it plays smooth on stock and Diceplayer. I think it's the way it's encoded. But your best choice is to buy Diceplayer that uses hardware acceleration its totally worth it and its constantly updated...
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I tried diceplayer but it didn't make a difference. How are you encoding the video?
I noticed that it's smooth when the video is 720p, but it lags when it's 1080p. I thought it could support 1080p video?
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Now why would you play 1080p on screen that does not support it? It is hd screen but not full hd.
720p will be easily playable up to 600Kbits.
I downloaded (from a dodgy source if you know what I mean) Indiana Jones and somehow i cannot play it its only 2GB, whereas 4gb pirates of the Caribbean runs smoothly even on stock player.
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Now why would you play 1080p on screen that does not support it? It is hd screen but not full hd.
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Because it rescales the video and depending on the codecs and bit rates it can run just fine. Same reason why I play 720p on my Captivate. Because I can and it looks great and fits the screen nice.
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Now why would you play 1080p on screen that does not support it? It is hd screen but not full hd.
720p will be easily playable up to 600Kbits.
I downloaded (from a dodgy source if you know what I mean) Indiana Jones and somehow i cannot play it its only 2GB, whereas 4gb pirates of the Caribbean runs smoothly even on stock player.
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Last i checked this tablet is supposed to playback 1080p videos no problem.
Another video thread and more confused people.
The Tegra 2 is NOT capable of playing most HD video. The video accelerator which decodes the stream (this is separate from the GPU) is too slow to decode most HD video.
People need to understand the encoding profiles to understand why. The Tegra 2 is only capable of decoding 1080p stream ONLY if the video was encoding using Baseline setting profile. The problem is NOBODY uses Baseline profile to encode h.264 video because its obsolete and offers poor compression.
So what do we have left? We have Main profile and High profile.
Tegra 2 can only decode 720p Main profile at LOW bitrate only. If the video is encoded with Main profile over 4mb/s bitrate you are out of luck as the Tegra 2 is simply too slow to decode it. You can forget High profile encoded video unless its encoded in super low bitrate.
So what the problem? The problem is NOBODY encodes in Baseline profile.
You have to understand Tegra 2 is a VERY old chip. Almost 2 years old now and the GPU and video accelerator is the same as the ANCIENT Tegra 1 from about 3 years ago.
The moral of the story is Tegra 2 is NOT fast enough to decode most of todays HD videos. The best you can do is re-encode the videos you want in Baseline profile. Ya, what a PITA....Thank Tegra 2 for that.
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Another video thread and more confused people.
The Tegra 2 is NOT capable of playing most HD video. The video accelerator which decodes the stream (this is separate from the GPU) is too slow to decode most HD video.
People need to understand the encoding profiles to understand why. The Tegra 2 is only capable of decoding 1080p stream ONLY if the video was encoding using Baseline setting profile. The problem is NOBODY uses Baseline profile to encode h.264 video because its obsolete and offers poor compression.
So what do we have left? We have Main profile and High profile.
Tegra 2 can only decode 720p Main profile at LOW bitrate only. If the video is encoded with Main profile over 4mb/s bitrate you are out of luck as the Tegra 2 is simply too slow to decode it. You can forget High profile encoded video unless its encoded in super low bitrate.
So what the problem? The problem is NOBODY encodes in Baseline profile.
You have to understand Tegra 2 is a VERY old chip. Almost 2 years old now and the GPU and video accelerator is the same as the ANCIENT Tegra 1 from about 3 years ago.
The moral of the story is Tegra 2 is NOT fast enough to decode most of todays HD videos. The best you can do is re-encode the videos you want in Baseline profile. Ya, what a PITA....Thank Tegra 2 for that.
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Every time I see something you posted makes me vomit.
You write such bs that im starting to believe that you don't own any android device at all.
Pirates.Of.The.Caribbean.On.Stranger.Tides.2011.720p.BRRip.x264.AAC-ViSiON
Limitless.2011.UNRATED.720p.BRRip.x264.AAC-ViSiON
Both of these play perfectly on stock player and Diceplayer
This is max what you can get out of 4gb file that will fit the honeycomb filesystem
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Oh god more troll nonsense, listen at the end of the day we have a fantastic tablet that plays back most everything ive thrown at it using the stock player and dice/mxplayer. Bottom line these devices are not designed to replace a media center, they are portable devices that are designed for convenience, and i think the Tegra2 is a fantastic chipset. The screen itself is 720p, there is no reason to be watching 1080p video on the device. It will give you a slightly sharper picture assuming the internal scaler is effective but nothing more. I dont know what this guy is talking about the tegra2 being an old chip, its probably the most advanced CPU/GPU combination on the market, considering we have 100's of people in the dev community continually finding ways to push every bit of power out of it beyond stock.
Stop trolling threads dude, people want answers not smart ass speculation.
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Every time I see something you posted makes me vomit.
You write such bs that im starting to believe that you don't own any android device at all.
Pirates.Of.The.Caribbean.On.Stranger.Tides.2011.720p.BRRip.x264.AAC-ViSiON
Limitless.2011.UNRATED.720p.BRRip.x264.AAC-ViSiON
Both of these play perfectly on stock player and Diceplayer
This is max what you can get out of 4gb file that will fit the honeycomb filesystem
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I am sorry but your post offer no useful information. I checked the Limitless movie and its only encoded at 1840 Kbps. Thats pretty low bitrate and as I stated the tegra 2 can play that back in Baseline or Main. If that movie was encoded at 5mbps Main profile it would choke the tegra 2.
If you transfer files from a MAC with kies for MacOS then it corrupts videos and photos (it is a known problem).
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I am sorry but your post offer no useful information. I checked the Limitless movie and its only encoded at 1840 Kbps. Thats pretty low bitrate and as I stated the tegra 2 can play that back in Baseline or Main. If that movie was encoded at 5mbps Main profile it would choke the tegra 2.
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5th Element is just a troll who wants attention. Take a look at some of his posts, especially dealing withe kal el and everyone will see.
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I've downloaded 720P film 4gb and it plays smooth on stock and Diceplayer. I think it's the way it's encoded. But your best choice is to buy Diceplayer that uses hardware acceleration its totally worth it and its constantly updated...
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Thanks for the post after having issues with my tab that I bought for my three year old, mainly for watching video on the go I was very unsatisfied with the choppy feedback on MX player.
I read your post and installed diceplayer and bang fixed.
My son can watch Peter Rabbit and leave me in peace now.:good::laugh:
Hi there,
Please some one can help me how i can Play 720p and 1080p .MKV movies smoothly with my Gtab 10.1???
Because with a simple samsung galaxy S 1GHZ CPU is possible to play a 720p MKV movies smoothly no problem, but the Galaxy Tab have Dual Core 1GHZ TEGRA 2 with 1GB ram, and not have to possibility to play it, i don't see this normal
Short:
- 720p: h.264 [email protected]
- 1080p: h.264 baseline
Best Player for 720p Video:
Dice Player
* Honeycomb tables(TF101,GT10.1,Iconia500,Xoom) : 720p [email protected] ( no weighted prediction )
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Ok thank you very much for your help, Dice Player Work great for the 720p
The tab chokes with 1080p smh.
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DoubleTwist works pretty decent with mkv's. 1080p though is a no go. Who needs it though on a ten inch screen?
Agree.. 1080p is overkill for 10" screen .. you wont notice any different compare to 720p .. plus its such a waste storage
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Agree.. 1080p is overkill for 10" screen .. you wont notice any different compare to 720p .. plus its such a waste storage
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Yep. I am all new to this but I noticed 1080p is overkill as well. I am running at 720p or BDrip x264 in 2gb to 4gb and detail is perfect. I converted most of my favorite movies to 720p and running with latest dice player. No issues whatsoever.
Cool,thank you.i will also try the dice Player when i am at home.
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To anyone saying 1080p is a waste... of course it is on this device.
But people store their videos generally with 1 copy in the best quality. So I need to be able to watch my 1080p videos, even though it's overkill, because I'm not going to re-encode another 720p copy and store that somewhere. I'm going to store one 1080p copy.
What puzzle me is that I can play 1080p mkv using the built-in player on my SGS II without any problem.
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gjoe77 said:
What puzzle me is that I can play 1080p mkv using the built-in player on my SGS II without any problem.
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in short, Tegra 2 is a disappointment.
Tegra2 does dissappoint . Im ready to upgrade to kal-el, like now.
Just curious, what programs are people using to convert/make/etc 720p movies?
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What puzzle me is that I can play 1080p mkv using the built-in player on my SGS II without any problem.
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MKV is container not codec. MKV can hold virtually anything...
Some 1080p can be played, some NOT, it depends what inside is.
Look at #2 post
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Just curious, what programs are people using to convert/make/etc 720p movies?
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I use handbrake. Depending on the source, but for the most part, I make sure the width is 1280px. I set the quality to 21, baseline profile, and then convert. My friends say the videos I've converted look great.
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I use handbrake. Depending on the source, but for the most part, I make sure the width is 1280px. I set the quality to 21, baseline profile, and then convert. My friends say the videos I've converted look great.
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Handbrake is the shizzle.
so, is video the only reason you bought a tablet? I don't watch movies on little screens when I have an HDTV at home. I typically have a drink in one hand so holding my tab in the other would get old. Tab runs great for everything except 720 and 1080 movies apparently. If you want to watch movies on the go, by a portable blu-ray player, not a tab. Tegra 2 runs great! Tab runs great on task's roms BTW!
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Handbrake is the shizzle.
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Yeah, handbreak is the best converter even if you use mac!
Been using MX Video Player with the codec pack for Tegra2. Switch it to the SW decoder, and it's not perfect but pretty good.
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so, is video the only reason you bought a tablet? I don't watch movies on little screens when I have an HDTV at home. I typically have a drink in one hand so holding my tab in the other would get old. Tab runs great for everything except 720 and 1080 movies apparently. If you want to watch movies on the go, by a portable blu-ray player, not a tab. Tegra 2 runs great! Tab runs great on task's roms BTW!
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Its not really fair to say "buy a portable blu ray player". Samsungs site says it can play 1080p, which in some cases it can and cant. Most of the time it cant.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/spec.html
I am trying to decide between the International Note or the Att note (both being equal in price). My biggest concern is the video playback in browser (HD 1080p flash video) and 720/1080p mkv videos (using stock or 3rd party players). I found that there are some reports of choppiness with the ATT note in the "Att note vs International Note review" thread. How true is this? And is it still true after overclocking?
LTE is not very impt, but definitely a plus since my area is LTE ready. Biggest thing is video playback and web browsing experience(especially in flash heavy websites). I actually find my Tegra 3 Asus Prime to be less smooth than my current galaxy s2 smartphone (can be a resolution thing..).
I had the HP Touchpad before with the same snapdragon processor as the att note and it was pretty terrible at playing the type of files I wanted smoothly (ESPECIALLY IN BROSWER). That was using Webos, so it can be a different story here.
720p mkv play perfectly - no re-encoding required - but you are apparently still constrained by the 4GB limit, so full length movies are not possible in many cases.
TV shows average about 1.2 gig so its most useful for those.
If we ever get ICS, I assume the 4gb limit will no longer apply, only you will have to transfer files via wifi or use a card reader and transfer directly to the SD card - the retarded samsung/MS USB file transfer protocols still fail at 4gb even if the device can store larger files.
I have this problem with my galaxy tab 10.1 I can play re-encoded mp4 much larger than 4gb but they have to be transferred by wifi. I assume the same problem will exist with the note under ICS.
Edit: Apparently NTFS formatting of the SD card has been attempted, don't know if it is an effective solution to 4gb limit, haven't tried it myself: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/galaxy-note-can-now-format-sd-card-to-ntfs-file-system/
Thanks, what about 1080p flash in browser? My Galaxy s2 can do this on youtube without a problem (and on engadget), but I'm wondering if it's possible with the galaxy note att. I am sure the international version will fair fine.
Yes, works with stock browser.
Tried Dark Knight 1080p trailer - plays fine.
NVIDA Pure Video 1080p test - plays fine.
Sharp Aquous Full HD 1080p test - plays fine.
1080p 30 fps 17Mbps HD Test Footage by DizzyDougTV - Plays fine
All were tested using LTE not wifi
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My biggest concern is the video playback in browser (HD 1080p flash video) and 720/1080p mkv videos (using stock or 3rd party players).
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Since the Note's screen is 800x1200, and one typically watches videos on the phone "sideways", there's no real benefit of watching video above 720p; the phone can only go up to 800p "sideways". Not only that, but because the screen is so small you likely won't be able to tell the difference in videos at resolutions higher than DVD-quality (i.e. 480p) anyway.
As for poor playback performance, I've watched a couple of YouTube videos in HQ and I find that there is the odd minor stutter here and there, but nothing to serious. I'm not sure how much of that is the result of network latency, though.
I've played DVD-quality videos (480p) -- copied onto the device memory; not streamed online -- with absolutely no issues whatsoever.
I've also played 720p and 1080p videos which were copied directly on to the device. There is occasionally a frame dropped here and there (most people wouldn't notice, but I'm pretty sensitive to that after years of messing around with video on computers) but I would say they play perfectly fine, also.
From my understanding, the newer I717 has more CPU horsepower and a GPU that is a little more than twice as fast. I would imagine this would make it better at playing videos than the older N7000 (i.e. international version).
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Since the Note's screen is 800x1200, and one typically watches videos on the phone "sideways", there's no real benefit of watching video above 720p; the phone can only go up to 800p "sideways". Not only that, but because the screen is so small you likely won't be able to tell the difference in videos at resolutions higher than DVD-quality (i.e. 480p) anyway.
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True, but he might want to output the video to a higher resolution display - I assume this thing has some sort of HDMI adapter.
Just my opinion, but 720p looks sharper than DVD quality to me even on a 5.3 inch display, though, granted, the difference is small.
Tried several MKV movies in 1080p (had to chop them up into smaller MKV size)..
Smooth as butter with Dice Player
I should also mention that you would want a player that will leverage Hardware Decoding..
Tried turning this feature off in Dice Player for 1080p playback, and sure enough, it was choppy.
Question for anyone who already has a XZU - are you able to test the playback of a file created by a GoPro Hero 3 for example at 1080p and 60fps?
My Nexus 10 struggles to play back this kind of video file when I am away on a snowboarding trip and I want to watch back footage. I use it to copy the video files off the SD cards onto a portable HDD just fine but it sucks having to wait until I get back home to my PC to watch these things properly.
I am hoping with the Snapdragon 800, I'll be able to watch back the videos without slow down or having to slow the frame rate down - thanks.
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Question for anyone who already has a XZU - are you able to test the playback of a file created by a GoPro Hero 3 for example at 1080p and 60fps?
My Nexus 10 struggles to play back this kind of video file when I am away on a snowboarding trip and I want to watch back footage. I use it to copy the video files off the SD cards onto a portable HDD just fine but it sucks having to wait until I get back home to my PC to watch these things properly.
I am hoping with the Snapdragon 800, I'll be able to watch back the videos without slow down or having to slow the frame rate down - thanks.
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The video file is in 8bits or 10bits? I suppose you're talking about 10bits since 1080p 8bit files runs fine with the Snapdragon 600.
I've tested myself, running a 1080p 10bit file on my phone, there's visible slow and frame skip at some heavy scenes. Just like how my Samsung S4 tries to handle a 720p 10bit file (Snapdragon 600).
Maybe when root is possible and custom kernel comes, maybe some performance tweaking, Snapdragon 800 can make it.
Thanks for the reply - I will check later if they are 10-bit, but right now I suspect they are.
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Thanks for the reply - I will check later if they are 10-bit, but right now I suspect they are.
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Hmm, not sure how to determine if they are 10 bit videos but I can see the data rate at 30013kbps and the total data rate at 30141kbps.
So I now have an XZU and tried some 1080p 60fps video recorded by my GoPro - plays beautifully. What a device.
Does it play 1080p 60fps protune movies?
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Does it play 1080p 60fps protune movies?
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I don't use protune, I'm sorry. If I get a file from someone to try out I will post back here.