I've been suffering from sporadic sense restarts for a couple of weeks now, usually after heavy app use and when using the 'back' key to get back to the main screen. I've tried uninstalling programs and removing widgets to try and isolate the problem with little success. However, I may have stumbled upon it's root cause...showing the weather on the lock screen.
Right before a sense restart one day I briefly saw the weather lock screen flash which I thought was peculiar, so I disabled it (set it to the basic wallpaper) and it has been running perfect ever since! Also the lag moving from screen to screen that was happening from time to time is totally gone now as well. It's like the turbo has been turned back on....
I'm not sure if this is a coincidence, or possibly gets sense below a memory threshold that's the underlining issue, but I thought I'd pass it along to see if it helps others that have been experiencing the soft restarts as well.
Yeah, I have been having the same reboot screen problems with Sense even without the Weather lock screen. It makes me like Sense more and more after I really liked it on the TP2, OG Evo, and Evo 3D.
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E This has been covered in a number of threads. Weather in and of itself is not the culprit, it's the resource use and how much of that sense and the Sense loader takes up. A search will show many discussions
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E This has been covered in a number of threads. Weather in and of itself is not the culprit, it's the resource use and how much of that sense and the Sense loader takes up. A search will show many discussions
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Exactly.
Plus I have been using just a normal wallpaper and I still get sense restarting.
DarkManX4lf said:
Exactly.
Plus I have been using just a normal wallpaper and I still get sense restarting.
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ALL of Sense's lock screens take up about 50MB of data. Productivity, Weather, nothing but the wallpaper.. they're all the same.
The best bet is if you're root to delete HTC's lockscreen, saving 50MB, and going with stock ICS. You have to unlock to answer phonecalls, but it's worth it.
Also, get a different launcher like nova or apex. Even if they have to restart they're MUCH quicker than Sense.
try my rom
ive never had sense reboot
From more experimenting it looks like it's not the weather lock per se, as soon as I added a battery widget I started getting restarts again. It's like Sense gets to a certain memory usage and the restarts ensue. The last thing I did before it stopped restarting was change from the weather lock, so it's quite possible it was on the edge and the weather graphics/etc. put it over the threshold.
Anyways, a custom ROM is definitely next on my list, would have already done if I could get into wallet to reset.....
Did you try changing the build prop? I did that to reset my wallet so I could Rom it.
You don't have "Don't keep activities" checked in developer options do you? I had that checked and it it caused sense to restart constantly... As it should, I wasn't thinking when I checked it.
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Saneless One said:
Did you try changing the build prop? I did that to reset my wallet so I could Rom it.
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what???
just install No Lock from the play store....problem solved!!
moses2303 said:
You don't have "Don't keep activities" checked in developer options do you? I had that checked and it it caused sense to restart constantly... As it should, I wasn't thinking when I checked it.
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No, not checked. Background process limit is set to 'standard' as well although I did try different settings under that with little success.
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what???
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Regarding resetting the wallet..
I edited my build.prop to have ro.device or something along that to say htc_jewel instead of just jewel. I was able to get into wallet, and I used that lucky break to clear out my wallet settings so I could wipe out the OS.
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Do anyone have a problem with lines going through widgets
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I had it too one time but reboot fixed everything, haven't had the lines since.
Ive had the lines, rebooted and everything was fine. They came back again 2 days later, rebooted again, havent seen em since.
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Once, rebooted, never since.
It will occasionally come back. Seems to be related to using 3d then switching.
i'd expect we'll see a fix from HTC soon enough.
Happened to me once, and rebooting did nothing. I had to remove every widget from my home screens and put them back on to fix it.
Had the same problem started last night with just one widget. By today it was two. I had tried rebooting, but didn't seem to fix the problem. Removed the two widgets and immediately put the back. 3+ hours and so far so good.
We'll see. Hopefully this isn't going to be an ongoing thing.
Out of curiosity, do you have widgets from the HTC hub installed? I noticed my "word of the day" widget isn't properly sized when I fling the carousel, but it resizes itself when I go to it. I'm thinking it might be a resolution glitch because they haven't optimized certain widgets for the 960x540 screen? Just a thought.
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Out of curiosity, do you have widgets from the HTC hub installed? I noticed my "word of the day" widget isn't properly sized when I fling the carousel, but it resizes itself when I go to it. I'm thinking it might be a resolution glitch because they haven't optimized certain widgets for the 960x540 screen? Just a thought.
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The two widgets I was seeing the problem on was the "Post" widget for TweekDeck and my Astrid Task widget. I've installed a couple of widgets from the HTC hub, playing around, but I don't have any of them active on the screen.
Let me tell you people...I had them bad, almost returned this thing because of it but in the back of my head I knew it was a software issue that would be fixed (either by HTC or an XDA developer.) I would get them, I would remove and replace the widget and they would eventually come back in a day or two.
Until, I temp rooted, hulu and overclocked, then I did a Zone skin, boom, problem solved! Don't ask me how, but ran for a week and no widget lines...actually lost ROOT today due to a dead battery, fired the phone up and there they were again!! ReRooted and they were gone, so my suspicions are that the HTC skins are the culprit because mine first started when I setup that blue-green HTC skin. Hope that helps.
Actually surprised this hasnt been discussed more, I noticed just a few people talked about it but no real solution.
I have the same problem on my widgets I made with desktop Visualizer. I usually just switch the theme and then switch it back. Always helps. Unfortunately I don't know how to prevent it from happening again.
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I get this problem every so often. I go into setting menu then go back home and it goes away, but it always comes back, very annoying.
Sometimes my touchscreen will be terrible, their will be no response at all.. and it will grab, but it will be in the wrong places, ive only found this problem whenever i rooted and reflashed with das bamf so far, and it blows because its literally the only problem i have now after being so happy with this root/rom deal so far.. i never flashed a kernal, so would that have something to do with it, or are kernals necessary to do? i have no idea what one even is to begin with so if that will improve the keyboard and or permit it from failing that would be worth looking into.. or is their a way to increase sensitivity on the phone somehow?
Thanks!
It's not going to be a kernel issue. Kernels do effect how some things work, but the Bamf team pair their roms with a kernel they find most suitable with their work. Kernels are mostly for setting CPU speed and Voltages.
I don't think your issue is a rom/kernel related issue. Does this problem persist when you turn off the screen and turn it back on? Sometimes if you get sweat or moisture on the screen, it tends to freak out. Another thing you can try doing is just reflashing your rom. I remember putting the leaked OTA Gingerbread on my ex's Droid X and after 2 weeks, the screen started selected itself dead center of the screen. Reflashed the rom, and it hasn't done it since.
If all of these things fail, than you have a hardware issue I presume. I wish you luck
Does your problem occur consistently all the time, or only in certain situations?
I.e: When the screen has been off? When exiting certain apps, etc?
If it only happens in certain situations, it may be a clocking issue that is causing the "lag" response.
The only way ive found to fix it so far has been to wipe the screen down every time before use, but i find that odd because with the factory rom back when i never had to.. so i guess its just more suspectable to elememts interfearing with the actual screen.. i havent changed screen protectors or anything.. The craziest thing to me so far..
Which version of DasBAMF are you running? I have a similar problem with their Sense 3.0 roms. The buttons on the MLB at bat widget and the refresh button for the Pulse news widget seem to work only intermittently.
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Which version of DasBAMF are you running? I have a similar problem with their Sense 3.0 roms. The buttons on the MLB at bat widget and the refresh button for the Pulse news widget seem to work only intermittently.
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2.01.605.0_Bamf_GingerREMIX_v2.1
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Which version of DasBAMF are you running? I have a similar problem with their Sense 3.0 roms. The buttons on the MLB at bat widget and the refresh button for the Pulse news widget seem to work only intermittently.
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The problems with your widgets may be related to the resizing issues with the 3.0 rom and where on the screen you have to tap for it to recognize the tap. I think many have been fixed, but there may be still some odd ones here and there.
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The problems with your widgets may be related to the resizing issues with the 3.0 rom and where on the screen you have to tap for it to recognize the tap. I think many have been fixed, but there may be still some odd ones here and there.
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The Widget? i dont understand how that can effect the touch screen.. i had the news one on my home screen.. or am i not reading this correctly?
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The Widget? i dont understand how that can effect the touch screen.. i had the news one on my home screen.. or am i not reading this correctly?
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I was pointing out an issue with widgets on Das BAMF 3.0 as a specific example of an issue you might have. This point is not relevant since you are running 2.1.
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The problems with your widgets may be related to the resizing issues with the 3.0 rom and where on the screen you have to tap for it to recognize the tap. I think many have been fixed, but there may be still some odd ones here and there.
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On RC5, the 2 widgets I mentioned are still wonky. I'm sticking with 2.1 remix for now.
Do you have any kind of screen protector? I get that from time to time when my screen is dirty and as you said wiping it down has always fixed it.
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Do you have any kind of screen protector? I get that from time to time when my screen is dirty and as you said wiping it down has always fixed it.
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Yeah, do screen protectors fade over time? as stupid as that sounds ive had this one on my phone for six months.. is it starting to break down or something?
also my next theory is temperature.. when my phone is exposed to hot areas it doesnt react.. i noticed that tonight
My app drawer button is non-functional ish. The app drawer button doesn't always select in the green tone to show it's been activated. I know the screen recognizes it's being pressed because the full-screen weather animations stop once I press the screen but the rosie button doesn't... go. I tried resetting HTC Sense, no go. I don't know what's wrong.
Anyone else got this issue?
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My app drawer button is non-functional ish. The app drawer button doesn't always select in the green tone to show it's been activated. I know the screen recognizes it's being pressed because the full-screen weather animations stop once I press the screen but the rosie button doesn't... go. I tried resetting HTC Sense, no go. I don't know what's wrong.
Anyone else got this issue?
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I've never had that happen. Are you using the stock HTC skin, or are you using one of the themed skins? Just curious on that. If you're not using the stock one, perhaps try switching back to the stock skin? A battery pull maybe? Sorry I don't have a better suggestion for you.
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I've never had that happen. Are you using the stock HTC skin, or are you using one of the themed skins? Just curious on that. If you're not using the stock one, perhaps try switching back to the stock skin? A battery pull maybe? Sorry I don't have a better suggestion for you.
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Stock skin, not temp rooted or overclocked or anything funky. It just started today too. I wish I didn't have such a unique problem! Grr. Thanks though man.
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Stock skin, not temp rooted or overclocked or anything funky. It just started today too. I wish I didn't have such a unique problem! Grr. Thanks though man.
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Well you can try rebooting the phone and removing the battery for a few seconds, but I'm going to assume you have done that already.
Second would probably be a hard reset, which I guarantee to fix your problem since it seems to be some sort of software hiccup.
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EDIT : Get a drawing app and see if you can draw in the bottom left corner. If you can't, then you have a problem with the digitizer not registering in that area.
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Well you can try rebooting the phone and removing the battery for a few seconds, but I'm going to assume you have done that already.
Second would probably be a hard reset, which I guarantee to fix your problem since it seems to be some sort of software hiccup.
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EDIT : Get a drawing app and see if you can draw in the bottom left corner. If you can't, then you have a problem with the digitizer not registering in that area.
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Okay I will try the drawing app, and yeah I've pulled the battery to no avail. I'll try the app, then just see if it works itself out.
EDIT: Drawing app worked fine, it's a Rosie issue. Hmm.
on that note
On the same note. Is there a way to change what is launched when you tap the button?
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On the same note. Is there a way to change what is launched when you tap the button?
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I don't believe that's possible without full root. It is definitely possible to remap the rosie buttons, but I don't think we can until we get S-off. (could be wrong, because there's a ton of talented devs here, but I dont think so)
Someone (literally just forgot who) is trying to repackage all of Rosie itself so it can be installed as an apk with a ton of mods, but again, I can't remember who.
Oh also, the button is now fully functional. Just kind of started working randomly, but oh well! That works for me.
My Thunderbolt is rooted, and I have tried several different ROMs (some AOSP even) and different kernels, and still I get this strange problem... I use WidgetLocker and fairly often when I go to unlock my phone, the touch screen doesn't work. I have to turn the screen on and off several times and sometimes that works, but it may take up to several minutes for it to finally register my touch. I even sometimes have to pull the battery because after ten minutes, nothing is responding. At first, I thought it the ROM/kernel - I used BAMF in the beginning and that is when I noticed it. Then I switched to ShiftSense, and I barely noticed the touch screen ever failing on me, but the lack of GPS locking and accuracy made me switch to NonSense, which I enjoy but again the touch screen not working at the WidgetLocker lock screen comes up again. My other theory was maybe the HTC Ring Lock Screen gets in the way, so I downloaded NoLock and disabled it, but that didn't work. Then I tried use the WL HomeHelper, but that didn't work... I tried different settings, but no avail. I really enjoy WidgetLocker and I want to try to keep it, but I am not sure what other things I should try to fix this problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!
widget locker did that to me several times so I gave up on it. Its definitely a problem with widget locker and not your phone or ROM. It freezes. I even set it to unlock with long press of back button and that would freeze as well.
my phone does the same thing, i think its a problem with our phone and gingerbread. it happens less with froyo. I believe its a radio issue.
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I have used widget locker on over 10 different android devices I've own. I've never had a freeze issue with it. Reason I've had freeze issue starting with low RAM device. Then voltage to low or cpu frequency to low.
Is there a good alternative with Widget Locker? I just love the use of my own custom slider/widgets/custom background... Does any other app do that? I sort of want to try another app and test to see if it is in fact my phone/RAM/ROM/whatever or Widget Locker.
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Is there a good alternative with Widget Locker? I just love the use of my own custom slider/widgets/custom background... Does any other app do that? I sort of want to try another app and test to see if it is in fact my phone/RAM/ROM/whatever or Widget Locker.
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take off or freeze widget locker for a few days and see how your phone does. If it doesn't freeze, then you know its the app.
As for the guy that has used widget locker on 10 devices without problems, I call BS, I tried it on stock, and several customs and always had problems.
I sort of like the features of WidgetLocker than my default lock screen doesn't have and the look of it, so if I turn it off, I sort of want to try to find a replacement app in the meantime.
I just wanted to chime in and say I have this issue with my Thunderbolt and Widgetlocker as well. I've found that it usually freezes if I let my screen turn off by timing out. I'll turn it back on and the screen doesn't respond at all. I've found that if I let my screen timeout again while on the Widgetlocker screen, my touch screen will be responsive the next time I turn it on again.
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Same problem here, I stopped using widget locker and just use the sense 3 lockscreen now.
I just wanted to put in my two cents - I was have the same problems with WidgetLocker on BAMF Forever (1.0.7 & 1.0.9). I found another thread on here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151269) that someone with a BAMF Sense 3 ROM and a custom kernel was having the same issue. Someone else suggested upping the voltage on the kernel to 368 or changing the kernel. It didn't work for him, but it did for me. I'm not using a custom kernel, but there is an option to change that in BAMF Settings. I've been running it at 368 for several days now and I only had one lockup (but that was shortly after bootup and the phone was probably busy doing other things in the background). HTH
EDIT: Problem was tied to a poker widget. Whatever page the widget was on was getting set as the first page you would see after you unlock from a restart.
The issue is minor, but still annoying. I am on the new OTA stock rooted LazyPanda S-OFF (previously on viperRom and it did it there too), and every time I restart the phone and go to unlock it the first time, it takes me to the screen just to the left of my home screen. If I hit the home button, it goes to the proper home page, so I have no idea what is going on. The only thing I can think that is causing it would be wiping cache and dalvik after I get a ROM up and running like I like it to do a minor update. When I was on viperRom and he put out a small update, I went and wiped those 2 and flashed the update and (I THINK) the problem started. Recently I flashed the new stock rooted ROM and got it all set up, then flashed wiped cache and dalvik to flash the wiper fix update and now I am going to the wrong home screen after restarts. Surely there is something I can modify to correct this. I just makes me worry that other things that I don't see might also be messed up.
I have searched everywhere for this, but seeing as how the keywords are all very common, I am not having any luck. I have posted this in various threads of the ROMs I have used, but nobody ever responds. Hoping more people will see this here and maybe I am not the only one.
Thanks!
Seriously, I am the only one? Does anybody at least know how to fix it or at least where to look?
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Seriously, I am the only one? Does anybody at least know how to fix it or at least where to look?
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I've had this happen before but that was just because when I turned the phone off I wasn't on the home page. I was a page to the left of the home page so when I turned the phone off and back on it took me back to the page I was on before I shut the phone off. That's all I could think of to cause that especially if you hit the Home button and it goes to the correct page. Try this. Leave it on the home page and turn the phone off. Turn it back on and see what page is displayed.
The other issue could be that the page you think is your home page really isn't and is actually a page to the left. That's why it reboots to that page and not the actual home page.Just a thought
Try rearranging your screens by pressing home twice then click and drag until the one you want us in the center.
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I've had this happen before but that was just because when I turned the phone off I wasn't on the home page. I was a page to the left of the home page so when I turned the phone off and back on it took me back to the page I was on before I shut the phone off. That's all I could think of to cause that especially if you hit the Home button and it goes to the correct page. Try this. Leave it on the home page and turn the phone off. Turn it back on and see what page is displayed.
The other issue could be that the page you think is your home page really isn't and is actually a page to the left. That's why it reboots to that page and not the actual home page.Just a thought
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I always power down from the Home Screen and my home screen is the middle screen. I never move the default clock widget. Thanks though!
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Seriously, I am the only one? Does anybody at least know how to fix it or at least where to look?
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I fixed it by switching to a different launcher
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Try rearranging your screens by pressing home twice then click and drag until the one you want us in the center.
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The one I want is in the center with the home icon in the corner. This is the screen that by default is the home screen (one with the clock widget) and I have not added or removed any screens since flashing or installed any mods or themes.
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I fixed it by switching to a different launcher
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So did you actually have this same problem? I have never tried a different launcher and this does seem to be a minor oddity.
Yeah I did have that...it would start up to a black screen the first time I unlocked at lockscreen. I also got rid of the HTC lockscreen apk so I'm using nova launcher and aosp lockscreen.
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The issue is minor, but still annoying. I am on the new OTA stock rooted LazyPanda S-OFF (previously on viperRom and it did it there too), and every time I restart the phone and go to unlock it the first time, it takes me to the screen just to the left of my home screen. If I hit the home button, it goes to the proper home page, so I have no idea what is going on. The only thing I can think that is causing it would be wiping cache and dalvik after I get a ROM up and running like I like it to do a minor update. When I was on viperRom and he put out a small update, I went and wiped those 2 and flashed the update and (I THINK) the problem started. Recently I flashed the new stock rooted ROM and got it all set up, then flashed wiped cache and dalvik to flash the wiper fix update and now I am going to the wrong home screen after restarts. Surely there is something I can modify to correct this. I just makes me worry that other things that I don't see might also be messed up.
I have searched everywhere for this, but seeing as how the keywords are all very common, I am not having any luck. I have posted this in various threads of the ROMs I have used, but nobody ever responds. Hoping more people will see this here and maybe I am not the only one.
Thanks!
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When you are on the home screen press home again. This will show all your screens. The one with the house icon in the lower right corner is your home screen. You can move them around to the order you want.
Yeah, and my home screen is set correct. It goes to it fine when I hit home, but is wrong after a restart the first time I unlock.
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I've had my phone unlock directly to my dialer after a reboot before but not a different homescreen.
Just try deleting all your homescreen and testing which one is your center one. Maybe it will reset whatever is messed up
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I've had my phone unlock directly to my dialer after a reboot before but not a different homescreen.
Just try deleting all your homescreen and testing which one is your center one. Maybe it will reset whatever is messed up
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Good idea, I will try this and post results.
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So after doing some removing of panels on my phone, I figured out the problem is tied to a widget that I have on that page for a Poker app that I play. Whatever page has this widget on it, gets set as the first page you see after you unlock from a restart (and only after a restart). Really weird and I guess that is why I am one of the only ones with this problem since I bet most people don't use the widget (I get extra chips for using it). Thanks everyone for your input in helping me solve this.