Hi all,
As there is specific thread for our Xperia Sola, I created my topic here. Sorry if I was wrong :/
I have a question about the management of the internal storage and the sd-card storage. Because it seems that my phone is considering my "sd card" as the internal storage.
When I connect my phone to my PC, I can see the internal storage and my sdcard content (as I choose MSC as connection type). But I can't see the content of my SD card directly from my phone. I tested with EStrong file explorer and the folder "/sdcard/" point to the internal storage. Same thing with Solid Explorer...
So I took Root explorer to sse behind the scene and I understand that my sdcard is mount in "/ext_card"..
So, this behaviour is really annoying: what's the meaning to have a sdcard input if I can only use the internal storage ? As I have a external storage, I would like to not use the internal storage. How can I do this ?
Thanks for your answer
I Also Have The Phone And the System Is Same For Me Better Get Use To It
Your external SDcard (/ext_card) is only for photos, music and videos.... No for aplication data. Yea that's really annoying. But i have read somewhere that you can (after root) edit the mounting points and mount your SDcard to sdcard. But there is no one who tried that.
YES ! I tried that ! You need root your phone and then do this . Don't forget to move apps from "sdcard" to phone ! Now i have 8 GB Internal storage and 4 GB external storage I love SOLA !
is this realy work on sola? im going to try this one later xD
khatglz said:
is this realy work on sola? im going to try this one later xD
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did you try it already? i did that to my sola and i cant do it. it seems like vold.fstab of the samsung phone isn't compatible with xperia sola.
Kevlud said:
YES ! I tried that ! You need root your phone and then do this . Don't forget to move apps from "sdcard" to phone ! Now i have 8 GB Internal storage and 4 GB external storage I love SOLA !
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Ok, so it worked for yr sola?? give us some feedback here mate..
Although I seriously doubt it..
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Ok, so I searched the forum a bit&found some interesting related posts, such as the below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670626
U will see that it mentions an app called data binding, which can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I'm abt to try it out on my Sola 2c if it saves the day, as I don't think we have a proper alternative..
u know, even if it is possible, if u run a Game located in a External SDcard, It would be laggy like hell, especially HD games. Because reading files from the external card is much SLOWER than the internal one. So...
Yep, but if it comes to that&u REALLY need extra storage, u must have an alternative. And it can't be that bad running apps from SD - i did it with my old ZTE out of pure necessity, as it has like zero internal storage available&it wasn't all that bad..
Plus, if u have the option, u can always leave the HD game for example on internal phone storage&move to the external SD other, not so "heavy duty" apps.
What I did was use Link2SD, as it looked more promising than the above.
I can't post the outside link as I'm a newbie just google Link2SD if interested, there is a very good guide of it at xperiablog.net, u can search it there too.
Let's see..
Testing Directory Bind ! It worked
Work on my SOLA using Directory Bind app ! :good:
Link2sd is also a good app - same philosophy (data binding is the concept behind both).
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Owner of Xperia Sola & ZTE Blade
Kevlud said:
Your external SDcard (/ext_card) is only for photos, music and videos.... No for aplication data. Yea that's really annoying. But i have read somewhere that you can (after root) edit the mounting points and mount your SDcard to sdcard. But there is no one who tried that.
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webflo said:
Hi all,
As there is specific thread for our Xperia Sola, I created my topic here. Sorry if I was wrong :/
I have a question about the management of the internal storage and the sd-card storage. Because it seems that my phone is considering my "sd card" as the internal storage.
When I connect my phone to my PC, I can see the internal storage and my sdcard content (as I choose MSC as connection type). But I can't see the content of my SD card directly from my phone. I tested with EStrong file explorer and the folder "/sdcard/" point to the internal storage. Same thing with Solid Explorer...
So I took Root explorer to sse behind the scene and I understand that my sdcard is mount in "/ext_card"..
So, this behaviour is really annoying: what's the meaning to have a sdcard input if I can only use the internal storage ? As I have a external storage, I would like to not use the internal storage. How can I do this ?
Thanks for your answer
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hey
first of al u mean that the "/ext_card" is the real SD card storage and not the "/sdcard"
and we are actually not allowed to put anything in it !!!
so what android use the SD card actually ?!!!
if its as Kevlud said so when i am sending an music or video file it will actually stored in the SD card and it will not get space in the internal storage ???
thanks 4ur replays u both
so can it be viewed by file managers in the phone?
so by doing this, file managers in sola can view external sd cards? and also when we connect the phone to computer, the computer can also view the external sd card? tq please reply asap..
Hi all
Do not bother
I have a Sony Sola., When the data on the memory card can not run the pump slipped. Should be on the internal memory. Whether a program that will fix the problem.
( Excuse my language is not good)
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Hello everyone,
I have a small problem, I bought a new Galaxy s2 and a samsung 32GB (class 10) micro sd. I was very happy installing some gameloft games and some apps WHEN the phone says it doesnt have space. I checked the Storage options and it seems that the phone created a new folder for my SD card and named it "external_sd".
I searched this on google, and some people say to install Astro others say app2sd etc etc BUT none of them solve the problem because the phone still thinks that the "SD" is the SD folder(actually haves that name) that is inside of the internal storage.
Does anyone know how to fix this? I even tryed to move the Gameloft folder to the "external_sd" one, and I had to DL everything again... Maybe there is a way but I .. I simply cant see how.
Thank you.
P.S. Not rooted. 2.3.5 Europe.
"external_sd" is the sd card you bought!
while "sdcard" is the internal storage!
Put all your games in the gameloft/games folder in the internal storage which is "sdcard.
frankimm said:
"external_sd" is the sd card you bought!
while "sdcard" is the internal storage!
Put all your games in the gameloft/games folder in the internal storage which is "sdcard.
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Hi, thanks for the quick reply.
I already knew that the folder "sdcard" is the inertal (like I sayed on my 1° post).
You sayed to put all the games on the gameloft folder and let it be on the internal side... but thats my problem. I cant. I dont have more space. I want to put all those files on the MicroSD that I bought. All (or allmost) all the others android phones are able to do that, so I assume there must be a trick for it.
P.S. I saw this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579546&highlight=storage
They talk about flashing the phone with the correct "pit file". But my phone is new and is not rooted. If i wait for the ICS will that fix the problem o.0?
My phone recognized only the internal memory as apps data storage not my Sd card, so after downloading several games, my internal memory is full and my 32 gb Sd still empty. Any help is appreciated. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
abakarxda said:
My phone recognized only the internal memory as apps data storage not my Sd card, so after downloading several games, my internal memory is full and my 32 gb Sd still empty. Any help is appreciated. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Usually I hook up my phone to my computer. Under "My computer" it should have your cdrive and your phone. mine shows up "SGH-i717" and under that is my "card" and "phone" you can just move over pictures and movies from the phone to card. that should make some room for your phone. if this helped hit that thanks button
i know what u saying but i dont have any movies on phone. i only have games
If I understand your question then go to system settings, manage apps then click on the app and select move to Sd card.
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you know that the phone recognize only the internal memory as Sd so even if i move it still moving to the phone memory not to my micro Sd card.
abakarxda said:
you know that the phone recognize only the internal memory as Sd so even if i move it still moving to the phone memory not to my micro Sd card.
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Same way with a few phones. The external SD is for media and such while internal is for apps and such. No real fix, but you can get titanium backup and backup all of them to your external, then uninstall the ones you're not using. Restore then when you want to use them. That's what I end up doing
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We would need something like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433436
Quote from the thread of what that does (I would actually like something like this for Note as my internal SD is practically full)
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You have misunderstood something . The situation is simple. Transformer has a 16gb internal sd (in my case, I have 16gb version) and so this internal sd card of 16gb is used to store all my data! For apps in /data, apps storage in /sdcard/android/data and so on.
So if I install for example games like front line commando, gta 3, or gameloft games, shadowgun or something which needs extra resources to download, these apps download what they need into internal sd. And so the space in internal sd (which is the internal memory of tablet) became full quickly!! Why? Because the internal sd is viewed as sdcard and mounted in /sdcard and /mnt/sdcard and so is used as normal sd by apps! So transformer has a sdcard which is used both for apps installation and data storage!!! No nand or real internal memory!
External sd is used for nothing!!!
So why my script? This script is essential to fix this stupid behaviour!!
Your internal sd card is mounted to store all apps you wants and apps install on it only their apk files and necessary data. On external they stored all extra data resources and all they need!!!! On external! And internal is untouched!
So android info see this new situation in inverted way since in our transformer (and i think this is a big issue of Asus) what is mounted in /sdcard is considered as INTERNAL MEMORY and what is mounted in /Removable/MicroSD is viewed as EXTERNAL MEMORY.
Since this mod inverts mount point... The information in memory tab is inverted!
Let's now with an example.
If you install shadowgun game without my mod, it installs in you internal both game package (in /data) and 250mb of resource in /sdcard/Android/data/gamefolder.
So you have 300mb less in your INTERNAL SD!!
With my mod simply the 250 of extra resources are downloaded in you external sd!!! So you have 250mb save on internal sd to install other apps!!!!
I hope is all more clear now and is better understood how this mod is important!
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Wait, to the OP:
Did you format the new SD card, then power the phone off, remove the card, pop it back in and then power up again?
If you don't format the card initially, the phone won't recognize it at all.
If that's not what you were getting at initially, then ignore this post.
-Ryan
Did we make any progress on this situation? Has anyone found a way to move apps to the external sd card. And let me point out to the few that have posted in this thread. When you move apps to the sd card through app manger or apps to sd they only move to the internal sd card.
I'd really like a fix for this as well. My 16GB MicroSD is going unused because of it. I don't store movies or music on my phone, I stream all that. But all the Internal SD memory is full because nothing recognizes that there's more than one "SD" storage space.
GET the free app called GLtoextSD or something like that name search on play store it i'll help you.(it requires root)
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Market Link : https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
Swap External w/ Internal. Success!!
abakarxda said:
My phone recognized only the internal memory as apps data storage not my Sd card, so after downloading several games, my internal memory is full and my 32 gb Sd still empty. Any help is appreciated. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Hi abakarxda,
I think I l already replied to your question in another thread, but just in case. I just tried this yesterday, and it worked for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45341162&postcount=2
I hope this helps.
Hello,
I did bought orginal Samsung mincro SD card 32gb class 10. I did put inside to the phone and first what i did after phone did show me space 29gb i did format it from phone options in settings of storage. After format i did reboot my phone just in case. Now i did plug in phone to my pc and all do work fine. My pc see Internal and external storage on my phone. After when i did copy files to my external memory of my phone and do unplug micro usb i cant see my external sd card on my phone. In apps like winamp/RockPlayer/BSPlayer/ES File Explorer...all what i can see is only sdcrad which is internal memory. I cant see external memory at all.
Best thing is when i do put movie anywhere on external sd card by usb/pc and run build in samsung app "Video Player" its see video form external sd! I dont know whats going on and i did have S2/Dell Streak/Note and never had problem like this before.
Any help would be nice.
Open your file explorer,go to mnt in root folder there is your SD card
zodiaxe66 said:
Open your file explorer,go to mnt in root folder there is your SD card
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Problem is they dont show "Root" or "mnt" folder.
wgizmo said:
Hello,
I did bought orginal Samsung mincro SD card 32gb class 10. I did put inside to the phone and first what i did after phone did show me space 29gb i did format it from phone options in settings of storage. After format i did reboot my phone just in case. Now i did plug in phone to my pc and all do work fine. My pc see Internal and external storage on my phone. After when i did copy files to my external memory of my phone and do unplug micro usb i cant see my external sd card on my phone. In apps like winamp/RockPlayer/BSPlayer/ES File Explorer...all what i can see is only sdcrad which is internal memory. I cant see external memory at all.
Best thing is when i do put movie anywhere on external sd card by usb/pc and run build in samsung app "Video Player" its see video form external sd! I dont know whats going on and i did have S2/Dell Streak/Note and never had problem like this before.
Any help would be nice.
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[TOOL] DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req. - xda-developers
wind0zer said:
[TOOL] DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req. - xda-developers
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Thank you for link but i dont need data transfer. My problem si why i cant see external sd card in any of apps. When i do swich on winamp there is music from external sd card, when i do swich on build in video player i do see videos form external sd card but there is no way i can explore external sd card using any of explore apps or any other app where you can search files by folders. There is no Root folder or mnt.
Oki small update. I just did give a go to one more app "Root browser lite" and i can see all folders and sys files. Looks like problem is with moust of apps which can't handle way of G3 works with external sd card. I'm right?
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wgizmo said:
Oki small update. I just did give a go to one more app "Root browser lite" and i can see all folders and sys files. Looks like problem is with moust of apps which can't handle way of G3 works with external sd card. I'm right?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
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Yes you're right. The s3 and other devices that have like 16/32 GB internal memory uses part of it for system and the rest is mounted as "sdcard"when infact it's internal memory. In addition to this sdcard there's the real sdcard which is mounted as external-sdcard. Many apps are programmed to look for only sdcard and not ext-sdcard. For such programs creating a symlink using the above tool that I posted will help it "see" contents/folders of the ext-sdcard.
As you mentioned some programs can and some can't browse/see ext-sdcard - if it's absolutely necessary, creating a symlink is the only option I can think of.
Hi,
It is my first Sony android phone (with a SD card slot). I was wondering if this oddity with internal storage and SD card relationship is across all Sony androids, or unique to ZU.
Basically, when I use Astro File manager, it looks like there are 2 SD cards mounted. I guess SDcard0 is the internal storage, and SDcard1 is the actual SD card.
Now, I also see an ''emulated'' SDcard, whatever that is.
MY MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ONLY DO I NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY IT IS LAID OUT, I ALSO CANNOT MOVE APPS (and more importantly, massive data that goes for these apps) TO SD CARD TO PRESERVE INTERNAL STORAGE.
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
Do I need to wait for ZU to be rootable so that these problems can be overcome?
Or is there a neat trick to get around this?
Thanks in advance
jewelkobayashi said:
Hi,
It is my first Sony android phone (with a SD card slot). I was wondering if this oddity with internal storage and SD card relationship is across all Sony androids, or unique to ZU.
Basically, when I use Astro File manager, it looks like there are 2 SD cards mounted. I guess SDcard0 is the internal storage, and SDcard1 is the actual SD card.
Now, I also see an ''emulated'' SDcard, whatever that is.
MY MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ONLY DO I NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY IT IS LAID OUT, I ALSO CANNOT MOVE APPS (and more importantly, massive data that goes for these apps) TO SD CARD TO PRESERVE INTERNAL STORAGE.
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
Do I need to wait for ZU to be rootable so that these problems can be overcome?
Or is there a neat trick to get around this?
Thanks in advance
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Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
baileyjr said:
Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
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Thanks! Please tell me that it is a matter of time before Z ultra is also rootable. If so, I can wait patiently:fingers-crossed:
Has there ever been an unrootable android thus far?
jewelkobayashi said:
Thanks! Please tell me that it is a matter of time before Z ultra is also rootable. If so, I can wait patiently:fingers-crossed:
Has there ever been an unrootable android thus far?
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There's only a matter of time until it gets rooted (Happy? ) And no, not that i know of.
jewelkobayashi said:
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
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Hi, still waiting for my XZU. BTW, what do you mean that your apps can't recognize the external storage? My experience with other phones with 'emulated' internal storage didn't prevent the apps from recognizing the 'real' external SD card.. There is usually also an option to choose which storage is used as default - at least on my previous huawei ascend P1. Can anyone confirm this on their XZU?
edit: as default here means as the main storage for apps data (picture for camera apps, downloads from browsers, downloadable content for some apps, etc), not the installed apps and system data
unk_damnation said:
Hi, still waiting for my XZU. BTW, what do you mean that your apps can't recognize the external storage? My experience with other phones with 'emulated' internal storage didn't prevent the apps from recognizing the 'real' external SD card.. There is usually also an option to choose which storage is used as default - at least on my previous huawei ascend P1. Can anyone confirm this on their XZU?
edit: as default here means as the main storage for apps data (picture for camera apps, downloads from browsers, downloadable content for some apps, etc), not the installed apps and system data
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What I meant by 'not recognising' (I could have phrased it better) is that yes, I can access it from any apps except that they are labelled as SDcard0 and SDcard1. What I tried to say was that for those not familiar, it seems confusing. If the internal memory is actually an SD card hidden away deep inside, I can kind of understand, but the way this phone is set up, it looks as if there are 2 external SD cards (which of course, there aren't) and no internal storage.
If there is a way to choose where certain apps can store their relevant data, I would like to know how for VIBER, Beyond Pod (podcast player) and Androrec (call recorder). I am assuming that there is no systematic way of selecting storage destination (via android or Xperia interface), and that these apps don't offer such features in their settings, and that we need to wait till the day some hard working genius figures out how to root the ZU.
Where?
baileyjr said:
Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
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When installing apps off playstore, where is it saved? sdcard0, sdcard1, extsd, emulated?
When using foldermount, what should be the destination folder (to mount it on my external sd card)?
I really want to know more about those storage locations because it confuses me all the time especially some of them contain the same files
Thank you
Jerika said:
When installing apps off playstore, where is it saved? sdcard0, sdcard1, extsd, emulated?
When using foldermount, what should be the destination folder (to mount it on my external sd card)?
I really want to know more about those storage locations because it confuses me all the time especially some of them contain the same files
Thank you
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Using solid explorer and things are far more clear on it (recognize directly which is what) but to make it simple:
-SDcard0 and emulated are the internal memory
-SDcard 1 and extra are your SDcard
So if you wish to move an app to your SDcard send it to SDcard 1.
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How to solve this problem in Xperia Z (C6602)... I cant move any apps to my ext SD card ????
I believe similar matters have been discussed but I could not find a concrete answer.
As you all know A116 has Phone Storage (0.98GB); Internal SD Card (1.76GB) and External SD Card (mine is 20GB).
I want to swap Phone Storage with Internal SD Card as I have massive issues downloading even small apps. Phone Storage is currently showing 60MB available.
I have unrooted the phone using farmaroot and I have tried to play around with vold.fstab using ES File Explorer. What that (swapping sdcard0 with sdcard1 in the script) does is swap Internal SD Card with External SD Card. The Phone Storage issue still persist.
Could anyone help, I believe the solution could be -
a) Swap Phone Storage with Internal SD Card
b) Re-partition Phone Storage and Internal SD Card, combine them and make just one partition.
Thank you
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Sana_Khan said:
I believe similar matters have been discussed but I could not find a concrete answer.
As you all know A116 has Phone Storage (0.98GB); Internal SD Card (1.76GB) and External SD Card (mine is 20GB).
I want to swap Phone Storage with Internal SD Card as I have massive issues downloading even small apps. Phone Storage is currently showing 60MB available.
I have unrooted the phone using farmaroot and I have tried to play around with vold.fstab using ES File Explorer. What that (swapping sdcard0 with sdcard1 in the script) does is swap Internal SD Card with External SD Card. The Phone Storage issue still persist.
Could anyone help, I believe the solution could be -
a) Swap Phone Storage with Internal SD Card
b) Re-partition Phone Storage and Internal SD Card, combine them and make just one partition.
Thank you
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I guess u meant "rooted my phone".
Also the method u mentioned swap internal memory with external memory(i.e memory card) but doesn't touch phone storage
but thanks to awesome kaydee we have a solution
here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296230
I have myself used this mod and my phone storage is now 2.5 gigs isn't that awesome
But make sure u follow each step and don't forget to do nandroid backup as u vl b losing all ur data :good:
All the best!!
@Sana_Khan,
If you need more /data space just repartition your device, there's a tutorial on how to do it in the apps section.
Also something is using your memory there in a weird way, there should be 600MB left, where are they? Check through /data with root explorer what's occupying all your space there...
GroovyG said:
@Sana_Khan,
If you need more /data space just repartition your device, there's a tutorial on how to do it in the apps section.
Also something is using your memory there in a weird way, there should be 600MB left, where are they? Check through /data with root explorer what's occupying all your space there...
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Hi GroovyG thanks for the response. It is indeed weird as by looking at the pic I attached I should have 600MB left. But I believe all the operating system files are stored on phone storage and that seems hidden. This sounds logical to me as well.
smartkode0 said:
I guess u meant "rooted my phone".
Also the method u mentioned swap internal memory with external memory(i.e memory card) but doesn't touch phone storage
but thanks to awesome kaydee we have a solution
here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296230
I have myself used this mod and my phone storage is now 2.5 gigs isn't that awesome
But make sure u follow each step and don't forget to do nandroid backup as u vl b losing all ur data :good:
All the best!!
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Thanks. Yes, I meant rooted my phone. I will give it a shot but it does seem very complicated process. I will need to arrange a windows machine as well as I have macbook. Is there a macbook based software solution you are aware of?
I am surprised there isn't an easier solution to this.
Sana_Khan said:
Thanks. Yes, I meant rooted my phone. I will give it a shot but it does seem very complicated process. I will need to arrange a windows machine as well as I have macbook. Is there a macbook based software solution you are aware of?
I am surprised there isn't an easier solution to this.
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As of now I don't know any mac-book based software but i would say u really give it go. U can run windows on a Virtual machine or could borrow ur frnd's laptop. Actually, only flashing tool available for CHD is spflash tool which is on windows but, if u know any mac based flash tool than u can do the same thing with that too.
Also the process is not at all difficult if u read through his post...don't forget the checkout the comments it might help u sometime