Hello again,
Having the phone with following specs:
Android Version: 4.0.4 (Stock)
Bootloader Status: Unlocked
Root Status: Rooted
Firmware: 4.1.B.431
Looking for:
1. The best Clock Work Mod
Same time have the fesibility to reset phone to factory mode
(Could it be done by flashing the generic firmware?)
2. RAM Availability
This has become a serious concern. I only have 70-80MB Ram available all time. When I hit the phone app, it takes 5 seconds to bring out the keypad....
Need advice on How to manage/install scripts.
Thanks again.
GxGaNi said:
1. The best Clock Work Mod
Same time have the fesibility to reset phone to factory mode
(Could it be done by flashing the generic firmware?)
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2 things.
1) ClockworkMod Recovery is mostly used to make full backups, format the system partitions and install custom ROMs.
2) Resetting phone to factory status can be done in Settings-Privacy or repair software via Update Service.
GxGaNi said:
2. RAM Availability
This has become a serious concern. I only have 70-80MB Ram available all time.
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Root your phone and remove unnecessary apps. Search on forum, there is a list about it. Also, search for V6 Supercharger.
And having 70-80 MB RAM isn't bad at all. It's quite enough for normal usage.
GxGaNi said:
When I hit the phone app, it takes 5 seconds to bring out the keypad....
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It is because of unoptimized app. Not related to RAM much.
Unused ram is wasted ram. U wont getting any problem like lags etc unless free ram is too low eg 10-20mb.
Again, unused ram is wasted ram
Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
an0nym0us_ said:
Unused ram is wasted ram. U wont getting any problem like lags etc unless free ram is too low eg 10-20mb.
Again, unused ram is wasted ram
Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
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what's the best i/o scheduler???
@GxGaNi
Here are some tweaks you might wanna try: http://goo.gl/1OuLC
but I would suggest you make a backup of all your stuff and make a clean new ROM flash with V6 installed....
and like someguyfromhell said, remove all bloatware.
Might try this program: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683399
sravan242 said:
what's the best i/o scheduler???
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Schedulers explained:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22134559&postcount=4
Someguyfromhell said:
2 things.
1) ClockworkMod Recovery is mostly used to make full backups, format the system partitions and install custom ROMs.
2) Resetting phone to factory status can be done in Settings-Privacy or repair software via Update Service.
Root your phone and remove unnecessary apps. Search on forum, there is a list about it. Also, search for V6 Supercharger.
And having 70-80 MB RAM isn't bad at all. It's quite enough for normal usage.
It is because of unoptimized app. Not related to RAM much.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Regarding some stuff.
CWM, which one do you suggest to install? Since I wanted to try out some roms and get to know Android well. And by meaning resetting to factory, I wanted to know, would it also remove CWM along with the reset?
I am a bit peculiar about the cwm, can you suggest me some?
Secondly, Optimizing App? It's the default Contact.apk, it literally gets my nerves. And the keys lag like about 10-50ms when I type. Any workaround?
PS: I removed lot of bloated apps already, so I wouldn't blame them.
an0nym0us_ said:
Unused ram is wasted ram. U wont getting any problem like lags etc unless free ram is too low eg 10-20mb.
Again, unused ram is wasted ram
Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
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Understood. But isn't this a logic? If we initially had a lesser ram and start an app, wouldn't it lag? And, tbh, 80MB is now low, since some games like Temple Run hog the ram up.
android had its own way of managing apps/ram.
newly closed app were cached in ram to make it faster for relaunch, and sometime it launch automatically on event without we even notice it. thats why we got app like autostart to manage that behaviour.
and when ram goes low, android will clean those cached app from ram using minfree value as threshold, thus we got app like auto memory manager to adjust those minfree value.
either way u shoudn't be worry much about ram, and dont use taskiller to kill app/process.
an0nym0us_ said:
Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
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I disagree about that.
The real difference with different I/O schedulers is quite small.
Thanks for the quick reply. Regarding some stuff.
CWM, which one do you suggest to install? Since I wanted to try out some roms and get to know Android well. And by meaning resetting to factory, I wanted to know, would it also remove CWM along with the reset?
I am a bit peculiar about the cwm, can you suggest me some?
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All Recovery's are the same, doesn't matter which one you install. Functionality is the same.
Secondly, Optimizing App? It's the default Contact.apk, it literally gets my nerves. And the keys lag like about 10-50ms when I type. Any workaround?
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If I am not mistaken, it is a bug with ICS. Someone correct me if I am wrong, I do not have my phone to test it.
Yep, key lag is an ICS thing. Even on some custom ROMs you still get keypress lag.
If you're going custom all the way (unlocked bootloader, custom kernel & ROM etc), for ICS you can check out expeacer's ExtendedStockKernel V2. It's got CWM 5.5 so there's no more of the 8 empty lines before option shmuck. Makes it a lot easier to use. Mesa kernel is also a good option and according to most, extends battery life by quite a bit..
Hope that helps
an0nym0us_ said:
android had its own way of managing apps/ram.
newly closed app were cached in ram to make it faster for relaunch, and sometime it launch automatically on event without we even notice it. thats why we got app like autostart to manage that behaviour.
and when ram goes low, android will clean those cached app from ram using minfree value as threshold, thus we got app like auto memory manager to adjust those minfree value.
either way u shoudn't be worry much about ram, and dont use taskiller to kill app/process.
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App for Auto Start, app for managing apps from self-kicking. And these apps pile up if you keep looking.
And by cache, I guess you're talking about Dalvik-Cache? I saw an option in "Developer Options", Don't keep activities. I wish it had "White-List" and black list, you seriously wouldn't need those countless apps.
btw, I do not any task killer, since most of them have the same algorithm and do the same ****(no offense), but I use SwitchPro Widget, since sony doesn't come up with default switches like Samsung does. It's native app killing switch is pretty flawless.
Does anyone also notice the slow loading widgets (Widget cannot load error) at the startup. I Use go launcher native theme.
@Someguy
Thanks again.
Someguyfromhell said:
I disagree about that.
The real difference with different I/O schedulers is quite small.
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Its noticeable on stock kernel. Noop gave faster picture loading in gallery, music loading in music app and media scanning upon unplugging usb and after reboot than default deadline.
But on custom kernel those added io scheduler probably patched already to suites flash memory better, thus faster on readahead, well atleast on my kernel i've patched them.
neocyke said:
Yep, key lag is an ICS thing. Even on some custom ROMs you still get keypress lag.
If you're going custom all the way (unlocked bootloader, custom kernel & ROM etc), for ICS you can check out expeacer's ExtendedStockKernel V2. It's got CWM 5.5 so there's no more of the 8 empty lines before option shmuck. Makes it a lot easier to use. Mesa kernel is also a good option and according to most, extends battery life by quite a bit..
Hope that helps
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I'll keep this in my mind.
Related
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111145&highlight=tablet
did it on my tablet and it "seems" faster someone tell me if its not just my imagination
you just used CMW zip? on what ROM?
worked for me. stock tab with pershoot kernel apps load faster. its like a dream come true
I flashed it via cwm on bonsai Rom. Can't say I really notice a difference. Couldn't have hurt though.
pretty sure that script does nothing more than what autokiller has been doing for years (with more options + gui + market app)... http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller
If you read the whole thing,
SellswordShev said:
pretty sure that script does nothing more than what autokiller has been doing for years (with more options + gui + market app)... http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller
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If you read the whole thing, you would know that it also changes the virtual memory for each app. This helps with multitasking, exiting and closing apps, etc.
So, it does more than Autokiller does. For me its faster and it doesn't crash my phone or tablet so, I like it.
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If you read the whole thing, you would know that it also changes the virtual memory for each app.
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No idea what that means. Apart from the lowmemorykiller tweaks all I see it changing are some swap / cache write parameters (this are properties of the system vm space not each apps'), most of which is handled in the advanced tweaks section in autokiller. Not to mention the autokiller advanced tweaks also deal with polling parameters of services other than just memory management. It's the more complete, tried and tested solution.
did it on bonsai with CWM yea i dont notice it but doesnt hurt...
Just flashed ona stock, and rooted tab. Ui transitions are improved, but have yet to test serious multitasking.
Guys this will probably not offer any performance improvements considering the highest page size limit set is at 72MB. The GT10.1 has 1GB of RAM, I doubt the tiny low memory page limits set by this script will have any effect.
I would suggest more appropriate page numbers, but it would be better if you just used autokiller over modifying a script like this, it does the same thing but with a GUI like I have already mentioned in the thread. The only advantage this script may have is that settings apply on boot so it could potentially improve boot speed (which is insignificant to me atleast)
Hmm, and I immediately noticed a difference with more free ram. Before, and it would tank, and and slow everything up. I but maybe with that app or some tweaks it could be even better for us!
Anyone got it working with TW?
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Anyone got it working with TW?
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Just flashed it on bonsai with touchwiz and using it for past 24 hrs. Runs beautifully whether its a placebo or not i notice it and I love it.
Well I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S II and did my first step into flashing ROMs... really fast I got addicted to it.. so I decided to root/flash my old HTC Desire (which is known to me as a battery killer).
I've installed CyanogenMod7 w/ a2sd... I want it to be perfect so I come a few questions...
How much does RAM matter to gingerbread performance / battery drain?
I see many ppl using task killers... are those apps recommended? I think I read about that killing tasks won't boost anything on linux.
Which apps would you recommend to increase performance / battery duration?
i.e. taskkiller, sdmaid(i know it wont boost the system but i think its still useful )...
Are there any more tweaks that could be done?
I believe that a dark background would save the drain from the display, correct me if I'm wrong
share your expirience/tips/tweaks/apps!
I can help you with your first question: if you use gingerbread you don't have to use any task killer, it's memory management is good enough to use it without it.
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I can help you with your first question: if you use gingerbread you don't have to use any task killer, it's memory management is good enough to use it without it.
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Not necessarily. It depends on the device and rom it's using. Many gingerbread roms still leaving running tasks and apps in the background (even when you exit the apps properly).
hiaws said:
[*]Which apps would you recommend to increase performance / battery duration?
i.e. taskkiller, sdmaid(i know it wont boost the system but i think its still useful )...
[*]Are there any more tweaks that could be done?
I believe that a dark background would save the drain from the display, correct me if I'm wrong [/LIST]
share your expirience/tips/tweaks/apps!
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Recommended apps - Android Booster, app2sd, 1Tap Cleaner
There are tweaks (some dangerous if not done correctly) like scripts which can help ram optimization, speed, etc. You'll just have to choose the one's you prefer or trust to use. You could try this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245310 .
for tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
i recommend render ui with gpu
Hi,
I have an Xperia Mini Pro running stock 4.1.B.0.587 with MESA kernel 3.5. I have frozen/uninstalled quite a few of the bundled applications and I have replaced the default launcher with Nova Launcher Prime. After a reboot, the phone is quite snappy and fast, no lag when redrawing and everything is working very nicely together. However, after a few hours to a day of use, it gets quite sluggish: slow redraws, animations stutter, apps block/hang for a few seconds etc.
I would like to investigate this further, but I'm not quite sure of how to proceed. One thing that I have seen is that if I go Settings->Apps->Running, after a few hours to a a day of use, there are a few applications or services which say "restarting".
Do you guys have any ideas on what's going on?
Thank you!
One think I would suggest you is to debloat your phone as much as possible and then search for more ways!
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Best Regards,
AJ
Hello,
Thank you for replying. I have already done that, there are few applications which I kept from the stock ROM. What else can I do?
Cheers,
R.
inkanyamba said:
Hello,
Thank you for replying. I have already done that, there are few applications which I kept from the stock ROM. What else can I do?
Cheers,
R.
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Are you using any task killer app?
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Best Regards,
AJ
alokbina said:
Are you using any task killer app?
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No, I'm not using any task killer or other system tuning apps, just the stock ROM without the bloatware. Otherwise, I use "normal", day-to-day apps.
inkanyamba said:
No, I'm not using any task killer or other system tuning apps, just the stock ROM without the bloatware. Otherwise, I use "normal", day-to-day apps.
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Go flash stock GB if you want no lag:silly:
piousheart said:
Go flash stock GB if you want no lag:silly:
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This is not a solution, thank you.
You can try pimp my rom alpha from play store to add some tweaks and scripts to make your phone faster
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Yep pimp my Rom is good....also try some awesome tweaks of project fluid by mv_style and also the v6 supercharger, etc...that will make ur Rom faster but you can't anyhow expect very much from the stock Rom but u can always depend on custom roms based on stock if you want...
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AJ
Thank you for the suggestion, I'll try it one of these days. Any other ideas, guys?
Use Android Assistant (18 features) and clean the cache. Do it often, ICS really generates a lot of cache compared to GB.
Though the best thing to do would be to flash a GB rom if you want your phone to be really smooth :good:
Simply restarting the phone will do the job!
Restart it once every (two) day(s).
or
Change the minfree and ADJ settings.
EDiT: check your vfs_cache_pressure value
If it's low, set a higher setting. MESA kernel sets it to 30, which is quite low and causes lags at the end of the day.
You can try to raise it to default stock 100 and see if that helps
Code:
echo "200" > /proc/sys/vm/vfs_cache_pressure;
Flash a custom ROM. Usually they last longer without lag then stock ROM.
Also another solution is, you can try my X-PLODE tweaks. I think it should really boost your phone since it's on stock ROM.
Based on my experience after flashing almost EVERY available ROM and kernel on my st15i, I can suggest:
1. Use a memory manager like Smart RAM, Autokiller Memory Optimizer etc.
2. Use a cache cleaner app and set it to clear cache once or twice a day.
3. Use an app like SystemCleanup (free) and delete any system app you don't use or like.
4. You can send apps like your custom browser (I strongly suggest Nova) or GPS app to /system/app/ via SystemCleanup.
5. Flash custom kernel (I strongly suggest LuPuS or MESA Hybrid).
6. Find a light and fast custom ROM that suits your needs and flash it.
7. Enjoy. The power of Android is in your hands !
Thank you, everyone, for taking the time and answering me.
Just wondering what apps I can use to improve the performance of my YPG1 US version without installing a ROM. I have installed a couple roms before but was a bit frustrated by losing certain functions and one of them actually made it slower.
Device is rooted atm but only rooted apps I think are SetCPU, AdFree, and Superuser.
I use it mainly for video and reading so I would love to be able to change the brightness from the dropdown menu. I also have a problem with XBMC crashing when I use the Navi-X program most of the time or going very very slowly when running Navi-X so would love to be able to use that, I think it has to do with ram usage even though I don't have that many background apps running.
Sportfreunde said:
Just wondering what apps I can use to improve the performance of my YPG1 US version without installing a ROM. I have installed a couple roms before but was a bit frustrated by losing certain functions and one of them actually made it slower.
Device is rooted atm but only rooted apps I think are SetCPU, AdFree, and Superuser.
I use it mainly for video and reading so I would love to be able to change the brightness from the dropdown menu. I also have a problem with XBMC crashing when I use the Navi-X program most of the time or going very very slowly when running Navi-X so would love to be able to use that, I think it has to do with ram usage even though I don't have that many background apps running.
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Just a heads up, but have you tried REDD? It is literally a modified version of our stock rom, and you don't lose any functions.
Firstly, you can install a custom kernel if you want. It does help with performance (you get a boost in available ram), and will give you more options with setCPU. Now if you don't want to install anything then you can still setup your min frequency to at least 400 mhz, and keep max at 1000mhz on setCPU. This should keep things zippy.
Another thing you can do is change out the launcher. Many people don't realize this, but using a different launcher can vastly increase the performance of pretty much any android device. I recommend using Holo Launcher, since it is light on ram, and gives a pretty decent performance boost. However, many people love ADW Launcher https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adw.launcher&hl=en, or Launcher Pro https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fede.launcher&hl=en so if you haven't changed out your launcher then try that as well.
Our players have a knack for using too much ram. For some reason, it may say you don't have that many background apps running but you actually do (you just can't see them in the task manager). For me, I found an app called auto memory manager https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&hl=en. This app is really simple to use. Basically you set a threshold for each category of apps, and once the available ram goes under that threshold it automatically frees up ram. When I was running it on REDD I almost always had 100mb-150mb free. It kept my device very smooth. I still use it on the JB roms. I had mine set like this 40, 70, 100, 120, 140, 160.
Along with auto memory manager, you can also install clean master https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard&hl=en, it's pretty much the ccleaner of android. It cleans up junk files that clutter up your device, and you can also set it to free up ram along with auto memory manager. It works awesome.
You say you want to still be able to hange the brightness from the dropdown? There's an app for that lol. Notification Toggle https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en, is pretty much like power toggles on other roms. I have to say it doesn't look exactly like that on GB (that's what it looks like on ics+ roms). It looks like this; You can set this up almost anyway you like and add almost any toggles you want
Hope this helps.
I think you should try an app called Greenify that is available on the Play Store. It "hibernates" apps that are not running so those apps won't run in the background and take up valuable ram or drain your precious battery. (You can pick what apps you want to hibernate)
You should try it out
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Think I'm gonna install that notification toggle along with a kernel. Can anyone recommend which kernel would improve performance the most (ignore battery life).
Sportfreunde said:
Think I'm gonna install that notification toggle along with a kernel. Can anyone recommend which kernel would improve performance the most (ignore battery life).
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To be honest they are all about the same performance wise. I went with Klin's R3 kernel, because for me Terrasilent was giving me an issue where it would boot into recovery, and wipe all my data.
You do not need to install anything in order to be able to adjust the brightness from the dropdown menu. I only know for sure that this works on the yp-g1( stock rom), and that it does not work on yp-g70. Other models I do not know about.
All you have to do is when you put your finger on the top of the screen as if pulling down the menu, just press and hold until the shade that pops up dissapears, at wich point you can slide your finger left or right to decrease or increase the brightness. Hope this helps.
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You do not need to install anything in order to be able to adjust the brightness from the dropdown menu. I only know for sure that this works on the yp-g1( stock rom), and that it does not work on yp-g70. Other models I do not know about.
All you have to do is when you put your finger on the top of the screen as if pulling down the menu, just press and hold until the shade that pops up dissapears, at wich point you can slide your finger left or right to decrease or increase the brightness. Hope this helps.
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Wow thanks that worked. It doesn't adjust it through the full range I think but that's nice and easy, I couldn't get the toggle thing working.
Think I am gonna put a kernel in though to try and avoid Dolphin or XBMC from crashing so often.
Awesome post
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Trying to get my S3 to be as responsive as possible (when I click on something, I want it to launch as fast as possible).
What would be the most responsive approach if battery life is not important?
Thanks!
Probably AD 3.1 with performance governor.
Thanks! I'll certainly try!
I'm currently on cm 5.1 + boeffla zzmove insane. Wonder if there is going to be a noticeable difference.
Been trying to pinpoint some tweaks and/or kernel settings that would prioritize app launch speed at all costs, but haven't been able to so far.
Will try AD/perf and report back
Gabeloooooo said:
Thanks! I'll certainly try!
I'm currently on cm 5.1 + boeffla zzmove insane. Wonder if there is going to be a noticeable difference.
Been trying to pinpoint some tweaks and/or kernel settings that would prioritize app launch speed at all costs, but haven't been able to so far.
Will try AD/perf and report back
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AD with ArchiKernel is the must, only in my kernel performance turns on all cores and set them to max frequency.
None of the roms will do as you ask after a week or two of installing and uninstalling apps.
The lack of responsiveness is caused by hardware limitations, mainly the 1GB of ram.
Changing your launcher can help slightly as touchwiz caches everything before displaying which causes latency.
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shivadow said:
None of the roms will do as you ask after a week or two of installing and uninstalling apps.
The lack of responsiveness is caused by hardware limitations, mainly the 1GB of ram.
Changing your launcher can help slightly as touchwiz caches everything before displaying which causes latency.
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That was my understanding, but I was wondering if there was a way to force a behavior that would speed up things. Say I only use 4 apps (phone, mail, calendar, and the game threes). Say I never need to run 2 of these apps at once. I was wondering if there was a way to set an aggressive behavior to make sure that when I launch any of these apps, everything else 'dies' to free up ressources for these.
I found that indeed switching to a non-google now launcher makes a HUGE difference when coming back from apps. Been trying to find the lightest launcher that exists.
Activate developers options and set lmk to aggressive (do not keep apps).
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shivadow said:
Activate developers options and set lmk to aggressive (do not keep apps).
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Thanks! Will try and report back!
JustArchi said:
Probably AD 3.1 with performance governor.
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Combination of AD3.1 + dev options to no keep apps + nova launcher + disabling all animations has made a world of difference
But I played around with the GPU values in synapse without writing them down. Is there a list of the default values for the GPU speeds? (the voltages and % all have the default values in the app, but not the GPU speeds)
Thanks!!
Gabeloooooo said:
Combination of AD3.1 + dev options to no keep apps + nova launcher + disabling all animations has made a world of difference
But I played around with the GPU values in synapse without writing them down. Is there a list of the default values for the GPU speeds? (the voltages and % all have the default values in the app, but not the GPU speeds)
Thanks!!
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Synapse has an option to restore default settings.
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Synapse has an option to restore default settings.
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That's the thing, I'm probably super stupid, but I can't for the life of me find the reset defaults option in synapse
Gabeloooooo said:
That's the thing, I'm probably super stupid, but I can't for the life of me find the reset defaults option in synapse
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You see a box right on the right upper corner(the multi select icon). Tap it and then select the settings you want to revert to default. Then tap at the arrow on the top right
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You see a box right on the right upper corner(the multi select icon). Tap it and then select the settings you want to revert to default. Then tap at the arrow on the top right
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A million thanks (and apologies for my being stupid)!!